I'm a believer now. I watched this video the other day and numbered all of my arrows. As you said, out of a dozen, there were 3 or 4 that flew differently than the others. I turned the nocks and all of them came into the center. I used a marker and marked the arrow for the arrow for up just as you did. Heading to Africa in 9 days and I'm feeling much more confident in ALL of my arrows and how they fly. Much appreciate Sir.
@douglash.88623 ай бұрын
THIS was the BEST "Tip" in Archery, "Arrow accuracy" that, I've EVER seen ! After Tuning my Rest with, a Bare Shaft,.. I just Fletch all Arrows with, NO "Cock Vane" then shoot, all my Arrows thru Paper at, 15 yards,.. "indexing Nocks to, Vanes" and then, I Mark the cock vane with, a Sharpie, a couple of ^^ up, vane ,.. DONE ! Remarkable Accuracy ! THANKS,.. R-F !!
@robertmayo58303 жыл бұрын
I have been knock tuning for 11 years, and its absolutely the best way to Find your FAVORITE arrows
@douglash.88624 ай бұрын
Yup,.. IT just,.."Works" !
@draven38383 жыл бұрын
Truth in this wisdom ,I've been doing this for the last 2 years and it works
@jamiesonburkett64433 жыл бұрын
Hey Troy just wanted to say thank you for all the information you are helping provide the archery community. You have helped me considerably. My local shop couldn't help me with anything as far as getting fixed blades to shoot properly with my xbow. I bought my own fletching jig. Went through bare shaft nock tuning which the shop said was unnecessary. Put on bohning x vanes 1 degree offset with a right helical lastnight. I shot it this morning and wow it works 1 inch groups at 40 with field points and broad heads.
@RanchFairy3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@maynardmariano23433 жыл бұрын
Great video, you are definitely my favorite archery instructor now sir. Watching your videos greatly improved my knowledge and helping me build my skills. Thank you. And keep those practical advice coming.
@dougsliker12244 жыл бұрын
I used to shoot recurves and longbows. Set them up the way you are setting up your compounds now. It absolutely works Great. Everything you say is true. I couldn't believe the difference high FOC, heavy arrows, nock tuning, etc. Improves Everything. Evan the bow felt better. Good to see you preaching to the compound users. Love your vidios. Your a hoot man. Bet your wife was nervous the first time she showed you off to her parents. Stumbled into you through The Hunting Public. I couldn't stand hunting vidios until I saw theirs, seem like a very good cast of characters. Problem is they remind me of how much I have slowed down at 68 compared to 25. Love the one where the kid try's to leap over the fence and crashes. No problem he gets right up and try again and makes it. I would still be laying their trying to get up. Keep up the good work
@ericwiitala54074 жыл бұрын
This has been happening to me for years. I get a dozen arrows... There's always a couple that just don't want to fly right. You bet I'm going to remember this and do just that.
@johnhire17745 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I had a broadhead tipped arrow behaving badly. I tried your nock tuning trick yesterday and after two adjustments it was hitting with the fieldpoint tipped arrow. Thanks and keep posting all the goodness you post.
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
John Hire That’s awesome! Here to help. When you whack something send the info to me on email. Troy@ranchfairy.com. I have an arrow performance study with over 80 kills - all bows, setups, broadhead types, etc
@markhumphrey8552 жыл бұрын
I am late to the party but , you are 100% correct. A little nock tuning does wonders . Got 6 arrows out of 9 to fly true with broad heads. Thanks for info bud!!!
@thegreatbaertino4 жыл бұрын
My God, this works so well. Its ridiculous. I had broadheads fly ----> straight into a tree. Turn the nock and no shit, it brought that sucker a whole foot over to my point of aim. Even with arrows and broadheads that dont spin true! It's crazy how well this can work.
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
thegreatbaertino It’s a little secret that is a big DEAL! Glad it helped
@richarddavis90886 жыл бұрын
Place an insert and field tip in each end of an arrow shaft (no fletchings). Use something to compress or flex the arrow (we used a bow press). The arrow will flex only one way. Mark the top of arched arrow, set the up fletching to this mark. Then line nock to the mark and shoot to fine tune.
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Richard Davis Gonna try that!! Just like a custom fishing rod build
@1Reddogroad6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oq5jdseC2c-npmQ.html
@1Reddogroad6 жыл бұрын
the above link shows easy way to find arrow spine ... your welcome :-)
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
1Reddogroad RHS ks
@1Reddogroad6 жыл бұрын
??? ?? ->>>-----------------> not sure what that means
@SCHunter19643 жыл бұрын
I tuned 10 arrows yesterday. It is amazing what a 1/4 turn can do. Had 3 arrows go from 3 to 4 inches out to 3 inch group in the 3 inch center of my target just turning the nock less than a 1/4.
@RanchFairy3 жыл бұрын
Tinker tine
@keladventures50696 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of your studys. I recently stumbled across this the otherday when shooting my recurve in the back yard. I had 3 arrows out of my 6 consistantly hitting high right. Switch my nock to different cockfeather and they are hitting with the rest. Awesome research my friend. Keep up the good work.
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
TC's Outdoors Thanks - there’s always more onion to peel! Shot the Big Part!! RF OUT
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I was completely surprised how well this works....simple too!!
@mikeewing60355 жыл бұрын
Always identify and mark the weak spine plane or the strong spine plane on each new shaft. It doesn't matter which plane you use as a reference. Then measure the spine on every arrow with your spine mark always oriented the same. Keep a notebook so you can compare various batches of arrows against each other. it doesn't matter whether you have the mark up, down, right or left. Just be consistent. Also, it is quite common to find one or two shafts out of a dozen that are significantly different from the others. Set the maverick arrows aside to use for stump shooting.
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Mike Ewing Correct!! I just figure coaching people how to shoot them and identify the odd ducks will help folks. Very few people know about bending them and rolling them to find the spine like a fishing rod. Thanks!!
@dannyingram61824 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense thank you for the info
@richardkight44829 ай бұрын
I love your sign in the background, mommy has a head ache. You kids go play in traffic😂
@aaronharvey69914 жыл бұрын
I just did this with 5 of my arrows. Went from 1"/1.5" down to 4 bullets and 1 at approx 1/4". Can't wait to test them on the range.
@DustinApple6 жыл бұрын
Depending on arrow manufacturer, a lot of arrows have a seam. That seam will be the strongest side of the shaft. That should always be indexed up when fletched
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Dustin Apple I will try that, my indexing strategy is to just get them all the same, by shooting them. Assumably, when they group better, they are close! Im kind of a Neanderthal. Ha.
@DustinApple6 жыл бұрын
Ranch Fairy take nock out and look at end of arrow. You can see seam
@chuckdean2603 жыл бұрын
You are changing the game!
@pickin4you8 ай бұрын
If you just find the spine of your arrows before tuning, you will be way better off. You have locate the exact spine. If jock tuning after already fetched, you can only get close. Maybe the true spine is between two of the vanes. If that’s the case, you’re screwed. So do your api e testing before you do anything else. Trim the shafts first, then find the spine, then fletch.
@donovanstockton446 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Really enjoyed how practical this video is. Really like how you describe some arrows as misbehaving. Archery is a lot about tuning and tuning and more tuning.
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Donovan Stockton Thanks! If you have any friends who need some practical!! Forward to them! It’s so very easy and makes a difference
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
You bet. Thanks and stay tuned.
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
You bet. Thanks for watching
@TineyGrouse2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to understand this arrow tuning thing a little more.
@phried_squirrel2 жыл бұрын
22 people invested in Rage Broadheads and Full Metal Jacket shafts disliked this video. Ranch Fairy rocks!!!
@RanchFairy2 жыл бұрын
Hhah
@blackheartsmarine03514 жыл бұрын
You should make arrow packages and sell them. I’d totally buy a bunch!! You know your shit. Another awesome video
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
World’s Okayest Marine Grunt Sirius archery.com - ranch fairy test kit and they do custom builds once you handload
@blackheartsmarine03514 жыл бұрын
Ranch Fairy thanks for the info! I’ll check it out
@jeremyfriebel25624 жыл бұрын
Love your info. Victory arrows are spine aligned so it really cuts down on nock tuning.
@allywilkeforsenate3 жыл бұрын
They still are not marked perfectly.They need a little nock tune.
@Marcus_from_OZ5 жыл бұрын
The same thing works with the broadhead if it won't behave, rotate the insert or shim the broadhead. A leather punch and paper or plastic makes pretty good shims for testing if you only want to move the insert once, brass shim is better if you don't want to move the insert at all.
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Me NPC Here Howdy, I have an insert tuning video as well. But I think that differs. With Nock tuning we are trying to find the most consistent part of the shaft so it flies consistently, since it is being pushed. The broadhead end is about the head and shaft being in alignment so you’re not shooting a very long projectile with a bent “nose” creating aerodynamic issues. Is that how you see it?
@Marcus_from_OZ5 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy Absolutely, you referred to the one arrow that was OK for field points but not broadheads, I'm an old fart and I hate to waste good arrows, they don't grow on trees (any more). 300gr heads are going to make the spine alignment even more important leaving the bow, that's mostly what you're doing with the nock tuning as far as I can figure out, along with slight inconsistencies in the fletchings. With the broadhead that initial flex in the shaft will induce the "steering" issues even with a perfectly straight shaft, insert and broadhead, I think it's why so many people use the mechanicals instead of fixed blades. I still use 2 blades, which I guess are the most likely to suffer from this if they're slightly misaligned with the spine but still "straight", it would still effect 3 or 4 blades to a smaller degree.
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Me NPC Here I shoot every blade profile and mostly 2 blades. There is “relief” when the heads are short - one of the reasons Montecs were so popular. BUT / if you get your broadheads / inserts straight and nock tune - I can shoot anything - out to 100 plus. See my most recent video on bare shaft nock tuning. It’s the next level for those who fletch their own.
@Marcus_from_OZ5 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy Watched the bare shaft tuning video and a few others including the one on bow noise and dancing pigs, you're absolutely bang on with that, I also agree about arrow weight and FOC, I've used nothing less than 700gr arrows since I bought my first compound bow. We fooled about with an endless tape of bow noise next to a dam we used to chase goats at, it was a bit over the top but it did desensitize them a bit to the sound.
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Me NPC You and I are kindred spirits. The animals just know. Or as Dr Grant Woods told me. “Troy, the animals LEFT to hunt have survived predators, bad years, other people, etc. they are the BEST ones we are hunting. The smartest and fastest.”
@nathansmith5331 Жыл бұрын
Also remember to spin test each carbon arrow, they do sometimes have flaws and they don’t spin right.
@johnjenkins94483 жыл бұрын
Learn something new everyday...Thanks for the videos man.Wish you was in missouri I cant get my V3 to bare shaft tune for nothing.It groups with my other shafts its just way tear left
@RanchFairy3 жыл бұрын
Tophats need adjustment
@johnjenkins94483 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy ok so stupid question...If I paper tuned and then want to change my arrow weight and say I wanna make arrow heavier,will I need to retune?
@RanchFairy3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjenkins9448 120% YEP - Any change is a full change
@johnjenkins94483 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy ok thank you...sorry to keep asking its just the tech here local is a joke and lazy dont want to do anything.Flat refused to take any part on bareshaft tuning...Thanks for advice
@RanchFairy3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjenkins9448 Of course - that’s why I exist
@eddiealvarez54935 жыл бұрын
Gre8 stuff, RF. Keep those arrows flyin!
@HVACRat6 жыл бұрын
Good process RF. I used to spine index, but I found that it never mattered anyway; it's just a starting point. I nock tune with bareshafts through paper; every single arrow. Then fletch (so my cock vane is oriented correctly :)) and shoot broadheads; it's pretty rare to get a different reaction when I do it this way. Both methods end with a well tuned arrow. Keep spreading the news, people are getting it!
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
HVACRat Spot on man! It takes time and it’s time well spent.
@everythingoutdoors34865 жыл бұрын
Honestly I've been been dealing with a bunch of inconveniences with my broadheads and field points! I'm shooting slicktrick standards 100gr which is a very small diameter broadhead. Definitely going to give this a try!
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
KC Sportsman If I can help - let me know. Might be arrow spine or something else. Easier on email Troy@ranchfairy.com
@SwampNStomp4 жыл бұрын
How would you go about doing your arrow tuning method with crossbow bolts? Obviously there’s a lot less adjustment in a crossbow. Would you suggest nok tuning without vanes on a crossbow (just so you can rotate the bolt to find the sweet spot and then reflects it when you find it?
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
Swamp N Stomp I have no idea. Never shot an X bow. I don’t know if they will bare shaft so I’d at least piddle with the fletched - 3 positions available
@pokerchannel69915 жыл бұрын
u sir, are doing a great service to the deer; However, I would implore you to go back to Recurve for another decade . . . this is because recurve has an aesthetic appeal well above and beyond bows with wheels, cables, axles, pins, mechanic release. it is like WUT??? are we shooting a bow or are we operating heavy machinery?
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Poker Channel but alas!!!! 70” 21st century hybrid longbow is the gem!! - 54# @28” Runs Beman ICS 400 - 28.25” carbon to carbon - 100 insert / 290 broadhead. 670 grains. Killed my biggest hog with it amongst other stuff
@TheDeadeye834 жыл бұрын
This why victory arrows are spin aligned. ITS IMPORTANT PEOPLE. STOP FOLLOWING EVERYONE ELSE. DO THIS OR SHOOT VICTORY.
@Nerdsfever3 жыл бұрын
It really does work!
@kurtficocelli37217 ай бұрын
So after running through the test kit and finding which spine arrow and weight of broadhead works am I supposed to nock tune with field points then fletch then check with the broadheads and make the final nock tune adjustments.
@jakelee43724 жыл бұрын
Anybody else find it ironic how he always says “stay tuned” at the beginning of his videos. All he talks about is how to “stay tuned”
@urbanarcher35354 жыл бұрын
If you move the nock after nock tuning bare shaft won’t that jack stuff up? BTW I love this stuff, going from a 435g finish wt arrow to a 670g and nock tuning bare shaft has blown my mind wow! How many people I know that shoot on arrow bare get a tail R kick and go straight to moving cams and twisting strings. Twist the Nock dudes thanks RF
@FullDrawOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
those arrows that just don't behave, have you every put them on a straightness roller? I watched a episode on Bowmar channel where he would show that these company's just cut the point end of the arrow and call it good, but when he put the arrow on the roller, there would be a slight wobble on the knock end, problem cutting knock end is your "graphics on the arrow" dont look the same in the quiver lol. Kinda like how you showed the cocked feather isn't always gonna be up. Maybe those bad arrows needed to be cut form the back to get better/straighter arrow launch?
@cowboylandscapellc2893 Жыл бұрын
I did a bareshaft tune, but with that, my fletching hit the strings of the bow when leaving, apparently not even a 2.75 tac vanes help with the problem. Whisker Biscuit V Plus installed. My bow is a Bear Legit 25" DL @ 56#
@RanchFairy Жыл бұрын
rotate the nock and it will change position to not hit cables.
@ScottWConvid192 жыл бұрын
Was this before you discovered nock tuning bare shafts or should there be nock tuning both before and after fletching
@RanchFairy2 жыл бұрын
You can do both Some people don’t bare shaft and fletch their own
@jodyfrasnelli8928 Жыл бұрын
How do I move my arrows that must have been glued in. They are bloodsport 350 spines with 100 grain field points and 15 grain insert.will a heat gun be the way to go
@RanchFairy Жыл бұрын
I have an insert removal video.
@HTH214 жыл бұрын
Question...why nock tune while bare shaft tuning if I have to nock tune when fletched and shooting broadheads ? Once I find my arrow setup that works for my bow and is just off a bit bare shaft, can I just micro tune by tuning my rest and then nock tune once fletched and shooting borashead? Thank you for all this knowledge and enlightenment! Lol
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
H T H If you’re bareshafting - the best is nock tuning bare shaft to insure the best flight - then fletch If you’re running fletched only - this. Not all people bare shaft -
@paulparetta47936 жыл бұрын
Ranch Slaya, hey I’m getting my bolts ready. I put a one fifty on my diablo it hit high. I switched to Easton power bolts with brass inserts, 150’s. Now they hit exact. 432gr total. I’m getting six inches through a block. Am I still too light? Are there bolt spine issues as well. Do I need to align three blade bolt cutters inline with vanes?
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Paul Paretta You’re gonna be great. Do not need to align. Send me pictures of critters. Troy@ranchfairy. Com
@fredbrown80224 жыл бұрын
Common knowlege Thanks
@shelbysavoie2404 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Beman vs Gold Tip for durability? Shaft as well as vanes for factory fletched arrows
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
Shelby savoie I’ve shot both on 2 different continents. The animals didn’t care!!! Get what is easiest in your local shop
@marfro1014 жыл бұрын
Is there any sort of device for “puring” (identifying the spine) of arrow shafts like golf shafts?
@BB-xq6rj3 жыл бұрын
Victory arrows label their spine not sure what other manufacturers do
@chadkish5318 Жыл бұрын
Curious at what yardage is best to nock tune ?
@williambroadway56886 жыл бұрын
I know this really doesn’t pertain to the video. But I see you have a Sniper Hog sight. I’m torn between the 50 and the 66. In your opinion, what is the sight like and which one would you recommended? Thanks.
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
William Broadway Bowhunting get the 38 LRX. You can get the gun rail and still have a 150 yard gun light. If gun night only 66. I have both and the 38 is the one I use most because I am bowhunting. The sniper team was nice enough to give me a second 38 and I’ve run it on a rifle. Totally adequate
@williambroadway56886 жыл бұрын
Thanks !!
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
William Broadway Tell Robert RF10 - it’s a discount code
@sarafayelawton6524 жыл бұрын
RF have you seen the new Zinger fletching? Would love to see a review of them from you.
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
Sara Faye Lawton We’ll see - lots on the table right now!!
@ericflax9484 жыл бұрын
If you switch out a nock, do you retune the arrow with the new nock?
@huntoutwest60914 жыл бұрын
What vanes are you shooting? They didn’t look like feathers.
@RanchFairy4 жыл бұрын
Hunt Out West Q2i fusion X 2
@sarafayelawton6525 ай бұрын
Does this apply to arrows for trad bows as well?
@RanchFairy5 ай бұрын
No. See my traditional tuning video.
@ryanwest73046 жыл бұрын
Is there any need to nock tune if your arrows are spine indexed?
@HVACRat6 жыл бұрын
Yes, spine indexing is a good first step in nock tuning, but every arrow is different; shoot them all.
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
This is accurate.
@jhuntley5755 жыл бұрын
You ever try floating the shafts in soapy water to find stiff side of arrow? Was wondering if it actually works
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Jason Huntley I have not. Shooting them works pretty good and reflects reality to me shooting the bow. My logic - I am part of the arrow flight process.
@jhuntley5755 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy that makes sense, I'm go in to give white feathers a try on my next arrow build. Thinking about 29 1/4in 340 gold tip velocity xt 100 gr brass insert 125gr black hornet Ser razor or 150 gr buzz cuts. Trying to get around 500 grains total arrow weight with 16%foc for deer. 60lb draw. Do you sell wraps or are they just for You? Good luck with the test lab, results are much appreciated
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Jason Huntley You’ll like the ball of white flying to the target. If you already have 340’s - give them a rip. But consider 300’s if you’re doing a new build. They tend to behave a little more consistently with the extra FOC and a broadhead. “Field points are liars” is what I’ve observed. Like hitting golf balls with a tail wind. Youre awesome!!!
@jhuntley5755 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy 300's check, will give them a go thanks man
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Jason Huntley Gold tip velocity.
@davidgaston68595 жыл бұрын
Do you ever shoot 4 2" fletch or stay with 3 2" fletching?
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
David Gaston I haven’t played with 4 fletch. It’s all the rage. Perfectly fine either way. I always kind of think it’s funny with all the speed focus. More fletch = more drag. I figure!
@davidgaston68595 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy I know right? I have a buddy of mine that shot a deer this year at 30 yards and it ducked probably 8 or 9 inches and went through no mans land. He's wanting to drop his arrow weight 30 grains to try and make up for speed lose 🤔 🤦♂️
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
You can't beat them. Check this out. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pJN_YLJjqL2dpWg.html
@nathanhouse20715 жыл бұрын
Change the nock on the number 5 see if there is a different
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Nathan House It never behaved.
@issacthomas63465 жыл бұрын
Do you square the ends of your arrows?
@RanchFairy5 жыл бұрын
Issac Thomas Yes - see high FOC arrow built insert tuning video.
@issacthomas63465 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy Good stuff, its amazing the things that get overlooked when building arrows. I have run into factory cut arrows that were not square, gets frustrating when you cant count on the mfg. to get the job done right. But then again thats why we tinker with this stiff, because we like it.
@ryanstrand49906 жыл бұрын
Did you switch from feathers
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Strand I had one of my subs send me some q2ii fusions, the small ones. So I gave them a rip. For this particular video - you can write on them,
@ryanstrand49906 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy I'm trying to decide on an arrow. Leaning towards the RIP TKO with 60 grain outserts with a 100 grain Magnus was also thinking of goldtips any input appreciated
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Strand Draw weight / Draw length? What spine are you considering and 125 broadheads! Let’s do this man
@ryanstrand49906 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy 28½ draw 70# was going to shoot a 300 spine 29 inch arrow
@RanchFairy6 жыл бұрын
300 spine will be fine up to 300 grains in the front. Come on man, jump over to the heavy side.