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The Great Debate

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NonStampCollector

NonStampCollector

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@jongall3136
@jongall3136 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that there are multiple religions at all says enough really.
@majmage
@majmage 5 жыл бұрын
It depends on the god. Certainly we can imagine a universe forming due to Bob from Accounting playing Universe Simulator 5000 on his home PC, and Bob might just not care what the sentient inhabitants of his universe believe because they're meaningless to him. Alternatively maybe Bob _does_ care, but because the game is so big he never finds the corner of the universe with life and those various religions. But certainly reality is inconsistent when it comes to a god who's omniscient, omnipresent, and cares about our belief/worship. Such a god could and would provide evidence they exist.
@norbertfleck812
@norbertfleck812 4 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia -> Cargo cults 😁
@abdulrahmann.9024
@abdulrahmann.9024 4 жыл бұрын
@@majmage you know here in the arab world, people like you are very few and not completely come out as non believers / infidels in terms of belief
@majmage
@majmage 4 жыл бұрын
​@@abdulrahmann.9024 I've heard that. That seems to be a strategy some religions use to avoid criticism. Yet if a religion was truth, why would it need to avoid reasonable skepticism? It wouldn't. A true religion would simply lay down the evidence, and let it speak for itself. Skeptics' questions could be answered honestly.
@subscribetopizzatheonlyrea7322
@subscribetopizzatheonlyrea7322 4 жыл бұрын
Not really if one was real that doesn't mean that there are not gonna be fake ones
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
Dotoree, you wrote "I think that Christianity is far more rational than atheism since ~99% of the atheists I've met in ~20 years don't even attempt to provide evidence for their faith." I won't block you. I"m more than happy for you to make such terrible arguments on my videos. It serves my purpose. Yeah, atheism is a faith. Just like "off" is a tv channel.
@badgerbush3556
@badgerbush3556 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel 😀
@alikhosravi496
@alikhosravi496 4 жыл бұрын
Off is a TV channel !!!! I love you . You are the best .
@averageskeletonremover2415
@averageskeletonremover2415 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously, atheism is wrong The Norse Titan Ymir created the universe
@jakethewolfie119
@jakethewolfie119 4 жыл бұрын
And Not Stamp Collecting is a hobby!
@Beelzybud
@Beelzybud 4 жыл бұрын
Baldness is a hair style.
@justintree3
@justintree3 8 жыл бұрын
I keep looking at the guy at the podium, and all I can see is a bell curve.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 8 жыл бұрын
+Justin Porteus Dr. Stamp is very well distributed.
@TavishMcEwen
@TavishMcEwen 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Porteus didnt even know what it was called but same
@Obama_OReilly
@Obama_OReilly 6 жыл бұрын
And the theists are to the left of it There's plenty of smart theists out there, I'm well aware
@abramthiessen8749
@abramthiessen8749 6 жыл бұрын
It's a normal thing to see. Sorry, I gauss I will be going.
@vvalph9483
@vvalph9483 6 жыл бұрын
Lol it also disturbs me XD
@concept5631
@concept5631 3 жыл бұрын
Atheist: *"If I stay still for long enough they'll start killing each other."*
@nathanmckenzie904
@nathanmckenzie904 3 жыл бұрын
And he wouldn't be wrong
@concept5631
@concept5631 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmckenzie904 Nope.
3 жыл бұрын
@@concept5631 History shows they would.
@concept5631
@concept5631 3 жыл бұрын
@ Yep.
@Polksalad615
@Polksalad615 5 ай бұрын
😂
@AsDeadAsDillinger
@AsDeadAsDillinger 9 жыл бұрын
I remember being asked (by one particularly vacant, nauseatingly smiley and unreasonably overly-certain born-again Christian woman) their favorite 'old chestnut' of a question : *_"But what if you're wrong ?"_* I stopped walking past her and acted overly-serious for a few seconds, as if I had never heard of, or thought about the question before and I could already sense the first hints of a different kind of smile start to play about the corners of her mouth, she was apparently thinking that I was about to concede her point or admit that _'I'd secretly always believed in God after all, deep down.'_ or something as equally crazy as that. So, still acting with gravitas, I looked deep into her eyes with unusual earnest (and saw worrying little behind that pair of blank, glassy orbs, no unique spark of character or individual personality.) : *_'Well, in that case..'_* I said, whilst nodding at her in a slow, slightly melancholy and resigned way *_'I suppose that we'd both better hope that Zeus was in a really good mood.'_*
@Sapphirecrystalpearl
@Sapphirecrystalpearl 9 жыл бұрын
AsDeadAsDillinger i love you
@davidmanhart1
@davidmanhart1 8 жыл бұрын
+Jaroslav At Amsterdam The difference being we believe in one less god than Christians do.
@sagerider2
@sagerider2 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer Thor. He goes around helping people in his chariot pulled by goats. can their god top that? Nah, all he does is kill people for fun.
@rectaalborween8471
@rectaalborween8471 7 жыл бұрын
Well i mean,yeahweh promised to kill all wicked people or some shit with a flood.But i still see wicked people in this world. But Zeus won a war againts the titans...And we don't see any titans now do we? ZEUS IS REAL MOTHEFUCKERS THERES THE EVIDENCE!
@terryfuldsgaming7995
@terryfuldsgaming7995 7 жыл бұрын
AsDeadAsDillinger my answer is, if I'm wrong all I have to do is repent on my deathbed. not visit the church every week, not be a good person, not live a fruitful life, not make anything of myself... if you are wrong, you just wasted your one and only life kissing the ass of your imaginary friend tho. that's a much bigger waste because either way I live forever. the only difference is heaven or hell. it's tantamount to losing a few cents from your bank account. but if you are wrong, you just threw away your entire life savings on snake oil.
@daemonCaptrix
@daemonCaptrix 7 жыл бұрын
They don't know it but they're all atheists for each other's gods.
@JudgeDeadMJ
@JudgeDeadMJ 5 жыл бұрын
SGerard you look like a great guy ! (=
@endloesung_der_braunen_frage
@endloesung_der_braunen_frage 5 жыл бұрын
@@steveonrock if you think about he is kinda right, even if I know the Definition of atheism. The Athiest just rejects one God more than any religious Person
@carealoo744
@carealoo744 5 жыл бұрын
@@steveonrock Athesit is when you don't believe in a god. Anyone who only believes in 1 God, is there by an atheist by default, as they are then rejecting a whole bunch of God's. Of course, I know that's not really what the definition means, but you get my point, Right?
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true. Being polytheist means I don’t have to hold to that kind of inconsistency.
@soleo2783
@soleo2783 4 жыл бұрын
@@the_polish_prince8966 Do you believe in ALL gods? Cuz if you don't you aren't your point is null.
@lookupthereupinthetrees9860
@lookupthereupinthetrees9860 5 жыл бұрын
"But our book is so full of truth only some parts of it contradict each other" 7:48 Absolute gold.
@ton1
@ton1 8 жыл бұрын
Imagine this as theatre act!
@userjoao
@userjoao 8 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@WiisonicHedgehogGamer
@WiisonicHedgehogGamer 6 жыл бұрын
I'll pay for it.
@ln6182
@ln6182 4 жыл бұрын
Dito I’ll do it in school if you want.
@yasyasmarangoz3577
@yasyasmarangoz3577 3 жыл бұрын
@@WiisonicHedgehogGamer And I'd pray for it.
@lordinfernape4753
@lordinfernape4753 2 жыл бұрын
Id pay for my first and only theatre act in my entire life lmaoo
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 11 жыл бұрын
Lennox has to prove that even if mathematical intelligibility indicates an intelligence responsible for it, that THAT intelligence is one that delights in the smell of burning animal carcasses, has an aversion to its creatures keeping the foreskins it bestowed upon them, can willingly stand by and watch its creation ruined by allowing its arch enemy to fuck with the FIRST people it creates, and is satiated by sacrificing itself unto itself. Good luck, Lennox.
@wrathofainz
@wrathofainz Жыл бұрын
Damn bro that's still thousands of Christians you're talking to xD
@haydenwalton2766
@haydenwalton2766 9 ай бұрын
lennox is an idiot. he's one of the best teachers that - deism is pointless and theism is ridiculous
@CrusteeBaguette
@CrusteeBaguette 9 ай бұрын
Well I figure it can be argued that the mathematical improbability is irrelevant, infinite monkeys eventually write Shakespeare. We have no idea how many failed big bangs there might have been the fact of the matter is that the only way we could ever end up perceiving things the way they are is if everything happened the way it did. Mathematical probability is meaningless in a space where time isnt a factor, how many universes formed that didn't have the necessary foundations to create life? How many died off before we came along? Whos to say ours is even as good as it could have turned out? We may never know. Theism and worship is nice in the vaccum assuming that we were special or different in some way but the instant you think you might not be all that unique in the grand infiniteness of it all, the concept kinda falls apart. So what if there is a god? Who gives a shit? Is a being that has immense power somehow worth more than your average rock or tree? Jeffery Bezos has immense power over my life and existence, does that deem him worthy of my worship? Does the scale of the power even matter in the end? Weather I get shot by a hitman or "divinely" smitten im dead either way so whats the difference? But nihilism is just toxic atheist propaganda so i guess thats a moot point. P.s. "it exists so it must have been created by god" is such a silly argument. god can always have been without a need for a creator but the universe cant have just been without the help of God, hypocrisy at its finest.
@carultch
@carultch 8 жыл бұрын
Why not just solve it with a prayer test, like the disciples of Baal?
@Omega0850
@Omega0850 6 жыл бұрын
Because 99% of all theists know deep down that their gods are fictional, and would therefore fail such a test. If they would really believe it, they would happily agree to such a test.
@christopherparks4342
@christopherparks4342 6 жыл бұрын
Omega0850 not likely. I cant speak for other religions but Christians teach that it is a sin to tempt/test the lord. So they dont test him because they believe thats a sin. Its not because they know they're wrong, not by a long shot.
@Lord_Skeptic
@Lord_Skeptic 6 жыл бұрын
carultch dark matter 2525 did a video on that
@MasterSpade
@MasterSpade 6 жыл бұрын
Because Con Artists cover their tracks. On one hand a Con Artist will Promise you ANYTHING you ask for in prayer, and he will do that many times to sell his Con. But then what? How does he cover his tracks after having made such Huge claims? Easy. After you make those claims, you make it Clear that "Thou shall not put your lord your god to the Test". That way, no matter how many times your prayers do not come true, the Con can say it was because you TESTED him. .......................Truly Pathetic that here we are only 3 months away from 2019 in the U.S. and the vast majority still believe in those Fairy Tales............. “The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits.” - Albert Einstein
@aurorafrost288
@aurorafrost288 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lord_Skeptic I was just thinking about that one earlier today myself; because for some reason, the quote, "Come on Baal. Light my fire." was stuck in my head.
@Schneeregen_
@Schneeregen_ 4 жыл бұрын
"What caused the Big Bang, see it had to be our God(/s)" - Thiests "Where did your God(/s) come from" - Athiests "You can't apply human logic" - Thiests
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you apply human logic some questions are still unanswerable. God is such a being that God is being comprehension and human imagination. We can't even answer questions about all that exists in the universe, how can we then answer questions about the one who created it. You can actually use human logic to prove God's existence I pray Allah guide us
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
*monotheists. Your point is moot when it comes to theists who don’t hold a position like that.
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
@@the_polish_prince8966 Yes it is but its is more logical for there to be a God and believe in a God than not. Atheist view is always subjective. Peace ✌
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
Syed Hussain Uh, I’m a theist...
@Schneeregen_
@Schneeregen_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@the_polish_prince8966 Fixed it. Even in polytheism, it's still special pleading.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 8 жыл бұрын
Does a forest fire need someone to start it? Sure a person CAN start a forest fire, but a forest fire can start any time the conditions are right.
@seanmathias232
@seanmathias232 5 жыл бұрын
Preach!!
@ernesik4636
@ernesik4636 5 жыл бұрын
It's just wonderful how this comment can be applied to both the origins of life *and* the -dumpster fire of an- argument of the theists
@nootdreamnoot1684
@nootdreamnoot1684 5 жыл бұрын
@@ernesik4636 how could a theist use this as an argument?
@ernesik4636
@ernesik4636 5 жыл бұрын
No, I meant that it's what the theists were saying, meaning: nobody primed their "forest fire" (infighting), it happened by itself.
@cloroxbleach5687
@cloroxbleach5687 5 жыл бұрын
It happens so nature can fix itself
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
I assume that you believe that fairies don't exist. Provide evidence for your faith that fairies do not exist. Can't provide evidence for your faith? THen your faith is irrational. How do you like arguing against garbage like that? Well stop arguing that way. It's garbage. It does not deserve to be dignified with a response. Fuck knows why I'm bothering. Why are atheists always schooling theists about general, basic rules of coherent argument? You should be embarrassed.
@abdulrahmann.9024
@abdulrahmann.9024 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Stop humping the keyboard you dumbass, words not clear.
@marianmeletlidiscrap
@marianmeletlidiscrap 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Why do you believe that Jesus really got resurrected? It's because it's "written in the bible"? You probably know that the bible is a really old book, which means that in order for it to be preserved, it had to be copied many times by multiple people. You probably also know that humans are flawed, so mistakes can happen and information can be written down incorrectly. Therefore, it's not farfetched to assume that the bible, due to it's age and the fact that it was preserved by humans, not by a powerful and perfect being, has mistakes in it.
@mobilegamesonly3170
@mobilegamesonly3170 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe dude have you not heard of a resuscitation, or it could be faked, or a million other things, this does not get you past deism, A million other people claim to have been resurrected /healed etc. I’m not even an atheist and I know this. (I’m Sikh for those wondering)
@alexangell903
@alexangell903 4 жыл бұрын
Hehe Hehe I thought you were seriously joking. “You just don’t want to believe” what does that even mean? And no claiming something is not proof that something exist you’re just saying it does and take it as fact.How can one choose to believe Anyways? If I choose to believe I am immortal and not die or that I can start flying or my car won’t run out of gas will it still happen? Yes it will because the truth doesn’t care about what you believe in, I don’t think you even choose to believe in anything you don’t have much control over it, if you have a basic knowledge of how something works you can’t choose to believe against it.Kind’ve like knowledge you wish you could unknow. I bet you wish you could unknow things like this because you know these arguments are silly and flawed.
@eragon78
@eragon78 2 жыл бұрын
Because if Theist actually understood general basic rules of coherent arguments, they likely wouldnt be Theist anymore.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
What the hell is THIS?! "Do we see life coming from non-life as atheism MUST claim since it says Gods don't exist. NO. We NEVER see this. We ALWAYS see life coming from more intelligent life as the Bible claimed LONG before spontaneous generation was in vogue." The Hindu texts claimed that too! As did Egyptian ones, Taoist ones and Shinto ones. I guess that proves that they're all true? Polytheism is therefore PROVEN? Such UNBELIEVABLY weak arguments. Just TERRIBLE. Just SO BAD.
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
True, for a monotheist.
@FireFoxGaming_
@FireFoxGaming_ 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who is an Omnist (me) I can definitely agree. Why should one religion be more correct then the other. It’s clear that not all religions are perfect and that’s okay. Sometimes I just beleive that religions themselves are puzzle pieces into not only god but also to ourselves. (Sorry for the religious talk I’m just saying that I agree.)
@aboudawik7973
@aboudawik7973 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, your argument is the weak one atheist. All these proofs support the one and only truth : The Almighty Great Flying Spaghetti Monster created life with Holy Noodly Appendages. 🙏🙏🙏
@aboudawik7973
@aboudawik7973 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully The Running Ramen Beast and The Swimming Pasta Ghost aren't angry at me. I'm so sorry Sprinting Potato Zombie. 🙏🙏
@aboudawik7973
@aboudawik7973 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Beerus (from DBS) stand more chance than Yahweh and Allah? I mean, he has at least a 21 century show depicting him. Not some 2000 years old books.
@PilotsCorner
@PilotsCorner 10 жыл бұрын
HAHA The atheist doesnt even have to say a word!
@Celatra
@Celatra 7 жыл бұрын
Virginia Davis XDDD
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
In all this no one actually bothered to search for truth. I pray Allah guide us
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
I think that’s because this animation was made by an atheist as propaganda for his position, and only portrays an extreme and not universal form of theism.
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
@@the_polish_prince8966 not only that this person thinks religions fight with each other, that's not what Islam teaches. Islam says to come in common terms as one another. Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 64: قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ تَعَالَوْا إِلَىٰ كَلِمَةٍ سَوَاءٍ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمْ أَلَّا نَعْبُدَ إِلَّا اللَّهَ وَلَا نُشْرِكَ بِهِ شَيْئًا وَلَا يَتَّخِذَ بَعْضُنَا بَعْضًا أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَقُولُوا اشْهَدُوا بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." (English - Mohsin Khan) via iQuran The verse ends with that "you go your way and I will go mine" Like following verse mentions. Surah Al-Kafiroon, Verse 6: لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)." (English - Mohsin Khan) via iQuran
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
Syed Hussain Cool, but you’re forgetting the part where Islam says you have to kill me. Or are you simply forgetting the fifth verse of the ninth Surah? I’m polytheist, by the way.
@bennyboyblack689
@bennyboyblack689 4 жыл бұрын
Never understood why people felt as though the unlikelyhood of our existence points to a god. We're dealing with an infinite time scale. It doesn't matter how unlikely our specific big bang rules were, cause there could've been quadrillions of big bangs before it that were duds until we eventually got ours.
@sameman6884
@sameman6884 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. We only know of this one because it happened and caused us to exist. If this one didn't work, we wouldn't know about it as we wouldn't exist
@weskal5490
@weskal5490 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@solentbum
@solentbum 3 жыл бұрын
The British army had a great marching song that proved this, sung to the same tune as 'Auld Lang Syne', the words are' We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here...... and so on' ad nauseum.
@DuckInGameStop
@DuckInGameStop 2 жыл бұрын
@@solentbum LOL that's a great example, my family always says that when we arrive somewhere but I never knew it came from a song!
@sankalp2520
@sankalp2520 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. The universe could have collapsed and expanded multiple times with slightly different universal constants every time, until the constants were just right enough for the universe to not collapse again. That way the universal constants could have reached optimal values that balance the universe. In the end, it's just one of the infinite possible reasons for our universe's existence. To find out what really happened, we will have to keep aside all supernatural, illogical possibilities and think with reasoning and logic. That's how we discovered so much about our universe and will continue to do so.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
No, I can't. But what is it called when we express doubts that gods such as Molech, Ranganui, Osiris, Chak, Minerva or Chemosh exist, in the face of opposition to those who claim to have scientific knowledge that they DO exist? What is it called to simply reject the idea that a lightning-throwing deity called Zeus exists? Do I need to provide proof? Is "Zeus" a scientific theory? Is Horus? Is Yahweh? Atheism is to disbelieve in them all, the same way YOU disbelieve in all but one of them.
@erikkartman1213
@erikkartman1213 9 жыл бұрын
Lol I laughed my ass watching this. It's funny as hell when the moderator points at the atheist with an angry face lol. Great video!
@gendoruwo6322
@gendoruwo6322 7 жыл бұрын
god i'll be laughing the entire day now.
@ashesashes8968
@ashesashes8968 6 жыл бұрын
That's not the moderator, that's a member of the theistic team
@lockiem1489
@lockiem1489 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Eric Kartman, very cool!
@freddycuevas5743
@freddycuevas5743 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone is an Atheist until there are talking their particular religion belief. -Richard Dawkins
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is born a Muslim: Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: The mother of every person gives him birth according to his true nature. It is subsequently his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Magian. Had his parents been Muslim he would have also remained a Muslim. Every person to whom his mother gives birth (has two aspects of his life) ; when his mother gives birth Satan strikes him but it was not the case with Mary and her son (Jesus Christ). حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، - يَعْنِي الدَّرَاوَرْدِيَّ - عَنِ الْعَلاَءِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ كُلُّ إِنْسَانٍ تَلِدُهُ أُمُّهُ عَلَى الْفِطْرَةِ وَأَبَوَاهُ بَعْدُ يُهَوِّدَانِهِ وَيُنَصِّرَانِهِ وَيُمَجِّسَانِهِ فَإِنْ كَانَا مُسْلِمَيْنِ فَمُسْلِمٌ كُلُّ إِنْسَانٍ تَلِدُهُ أُمُّهُ يَلْكُزُهُ الشَّيْطَانُ فِي حِضْنَيْهِ إِلاَّ مَرْيَمَ وَابْنَهَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏ Reference : Sahih Muslim 2659 aIn-book reference : Book 46, Hadith 40USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 33, Hadith 6429
@freddycuevas5743
@freddycuevas5743 4 жыл бұрын
@@Soyodi why? Because the islamic Holy book say so? Under that logic any other religion book should apply the same logic...
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
@@freddycuevas5743 no but how do we know what our fitra (natural disposition) at birth was. No one can know this but the one who created us. And other religions Don't teach this. You will only find this in Islam. So the same thing can't be said about them also. Peace brother
@freddycuevas5743
@freddycuevas5743 4 жыл бұрын
@@Soyodi lol you are working from the assumption of a creator, thing that you need to prove first in order to even make it relevant in the conversation. by your own standards any so-called good could fill that gap. If you were born in Italy you should be a Catholic since birth mate. that is how absurd your position is.
@Soyodi
@Soyodi 4 жыл бұрын
@@freddycuevas5743 Yes I agree with you if I was born in to a Catholic family I mostly would have grown up to be a Catherine Christian. The hadith I provided shows this. But the Prophet ﷺ also said that fitra of a child born is a Muslim. As the child grows up it gets influenced by it's parents and follows them. What Islam teaches is that we shouldn't follow our forefathers and to seek knowledge and truth for ourselves.
@aetbhieiils
@aetbhieiils 10 жыл бұрын
Great facepalm moments when theists start talking about science
@Wilsontripplets
@Wilsontripplets 6 жыл бұрын
Platymus and no when their are no atheists region will always argue amongst themselves
@lastfirst2021
@lastfirst2021 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing is more ridiculous than a religious person trying to use science for proving his/her believe.
@Shaymin0
@Shaymin0 5 жыл бұрын
@@lastfirst2021 The flaw in the idea of religion is that it can only function with an absent of facts. Hence faith. Science functions entirely with factual evidence so it is capable of error. Religion cannot be wrong or else all evidence written in the book becomes uncreditable as the writer is imperfect and does not know all...
@JpegDog
@JpegDog 5 жыл бұрын
Aquila Athena Doesn't mean they weren't wrong
@danielbaig
@danielbaig 5 жыл бұрын
@@averroes6279 Einstein was not a theist. He explicitly stated that he was an agnostic. Darwin was only a theist for the first part of his life. He, too, explicitly described himself as an agnostic. There are similar issues with others on your list as well. People who argue using falsehoods deservingly invite scorn.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
You also say :"the point of your fictional debate is wether God exists. And all of those arguments prove a god exist. " No, they don't. Perhaps the answer is polytheism. Perhaps the answer is mass consciousness. Perhaps it's something to do with alien life forms from another dimension, who created a 3-D universe because they could. Perhaps it's the matrix. We have NO IDEA what it is. Why do you think it's A god? A (singular)? There is NO particular reason to believe that. None at all.
@whydoiexist8143
@whydoiexist8143 6 жыл бұрын
Ha they are all wrong they don't know of our true creator Lord Cthulhu
@somethingsomewhat8860
@somethingsomewhat8860 5 жыл бұрын
Cthulhu is a weird way to say Yog-Sogoth.
@chaos_incarnate5131
@chaos_incarnate5131 5 жыл бұрын
@@somethingsomewhat8860 Yog-Sogoth is a weird way to say Azathoth.
@vasilisioannou5794
@vasilisioannou5794 5 жыл бұрын
Guys chill out we found who the true god is. Based on the bing bang theory and that the earth is round we can be sure that ancoent greece was correct all this time since it had a creator and the greeks said the earth was round first(pls ignore that the earth being round had nothing to do with the religon)
@bernardpolicarpio651
@bernardpolicarpio651 5 жыл бұрын
Back off everyone. THE REAL GOD IS KUKULKAN now lemme say a prayer Rogjrokfhekfiowrjifhonfoeirotbjtojeofnwoitgnekotjdbrofbworitpfnosnfkdjfjdjowtkjdkegodnriginjrofnejrfjjdwifjjdiwfnjfkwirjfh
@bobjoe109
@bobjoe109 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse you my Helix fossil begs to differ
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 6 жыл бұрын
Even after all these years, your videos are still on point and hilarious as the first time I watched them.
@autumnmycat123
@autumnmycat123 5 жыл бұрын
"our book is so full of truth that only SOME parts of it contradict each other-er, no they don't" I actually screamed
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
"Science is almost 100% on the theist side with hardly a single testable case on the atheist-evolution side. " Face-palm. How can anyone have a pulse and say things like this? Continue posting, but I just cannot bring myself to read any more of your comments, and I won't. They're just so bad. "hardly a single testable case" I just cannot believe that such ignorance exists inside someone capable of typing. I'm stunned. "hardly a single testable case". Gob-smacked. Beyond comprehension.
@frostfire4513
@frostfire4513 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe did you just reply to a 10 year old comment bruh
@lycaonpictus4433
@lycaonpictus4433 4 жыл бұрын
@@frostfire4513 he is also rejecting evolution in other comments 😂😂
@NegativeAccelerate
@NegativeAccelerate 4 жыл бұрын
I am also getting fed up of stupid people. Today someone told me that joe Biden was Satans pet and that leftists want to rule the world and fulfill the prophecy of the bible by having it under one leader. I was on a right wing site and felt frustrated that no one was agreeing with me and I should have ignored him but it was so outrageously stupid.
@proloycodes
@proloycodes 3 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe he is just fed up with these that's why he is not providing any proofs
@MrQwefty
@MrQwefty 11 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a funny cartoon dialogue between two characters. It goes something like this: "Look at our universe. Do you really think this whole magnifiscent work, just "poofed" into existence? NO! It must've had a creator! It couldn't have been due to just random chance, and it's not possible that the universe just 'was'!" "Then who created God?" "No-one. He just was there, since forever."
@d4-v1d22
@d4-v1d22 Жыл бұрын
Someone has actually said this to me when I asked where their god came from
@oberonpanopticon
@oberonpanopticon 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like futurama. At least, it has the same vibe.
@Malt454
@Malt454 5 жыл бұрын
It's the same problem as with Pascal's Wager: even if all the "logic" leads you to believe in God, which God do you then believe in?
@majmage
@majmage 5 жыл бұрын
Certainly good point, though to me the bigger problem with Pascal's Wager is the implication that there's no cost to a belief. (There's always an _opportunity cost_ to whatever we choose to do/believe.)
@Malt454
@Malt454 5 жыл бұрын
@@majmage - That's a very good point as well, although I wonder what, to Pascal, constituted "belief" in terms of how much it could/should affect his behavior or inconvenience him on a day-by-day basis. Even today, many believe that a death-bed confession and absolution is enough to put you in heaven. Another problem with the wager is that it seems to be the same as essentially taking out "heaven insurance" ("can't hurt, right?... just in case") with no real belief or faith behind it; it's a calculation, not a revelation.
@majmage
@majmage 5 жыл бұрын
@@Malt454 Well in Pascal's defense the foundation of Pascal's Wager was published in 1670, well before the concept of opportunity costs was formalized in 1894. So I'm not sure if we can fault him _too_ much for being a product of his times. (It's just now we know better, so we can certainly fault theists who rely on the argument. ;) ) And yeah, I agree with the other problems you've mentioned.
@Malt454
@Malt454 5 жыл бұрын
@@majmage - Yes, and, as a product of his times, Pascal's problem was greatly simplified by society itself; his question was simply whether to believe, not one of who/which/what to believe in. Indra, Thor and Zeus weren't on the table.
@eragon78
@eragon78 2 жыл бұрын
@@majmage Even worse, there is also another counter argument. Since pascels wager is a thought experiment assuming there is absolutely 0 evidence for god, then we can "make up" any hypothetical god we want because there is just as much evidence for that god as there is any other. So assume >for every god that exists that says if you dont do what they say and believe in them and worship them yada yada, you go to hell and if you do you go to heven >that you have an ANTI-God that does the exact opposite. If you DO believe in the other god and worship them you go to hell and if you dont you go to heaven. Then you run the cost/benefit analysis again, and there you go. Even assuming that beliefs have no cost, the balance is perfectly equal. There is no reason to believe in any specific god over another or even in any god in general. And then when you do factor in a cost to believe, no matter how small, it always becomes the logical choice then to never believe in a god(s) without evidence.
@ThatAnArchyDude
@ThatAnArchyDude 9 ай бұрын
One thing I don't hear people ever mention about the big bang being perfectly fine tuned for all of existence to happen the way it has is..... Just the notion our universe worked out perfectly does not mean it was the only time that a big bang ever happened. It just means that it happened eventually, and that's why we're all here. For all we know, there were millions of big bangs before, and the factors just did not work out in our favour until now. Fairly similar to why we've only found life on Earth...so far: Because there's bound to be life on some planet at some time given the sheer size & diversity of the universe would yield nearly infinite possibilities. So, for all we know, we might just be here as an inevitably; Not as a result of some intelligent designer. All we know about the big bang doesn't actually prove ANYONE'S points in this video. 🤣
@chrisphinney8475
@chrisphinney8475 7 ай бұрын
I believe it was Hawking who said that if our universe was fine tuned for anything, it would be for black holes
@ThatAnArchyDude
@ThatAnArchyDude 7 ай бұрын
@@chrisphinney8475 🤣
@TheHeavyshadow
@TheHeavyshadow Ай бұрын
Yeah, arguments like that always feel like: *tips over crate full of dice* "Woah, I rolled exactly a 13,127. Do you have any idea how rare and unlikely that is? That crate surely was fine-tuned to roll this exact number!"
@ThatAnArchyDude
@ThatAnArchyDude Ай бұрын
@@TheHeavyshadow 🤣 That's hilariously accurate.
@CuthbertNibbles
@CuthbertNibbles 9 жыл бұрын
7/10, Too much truth. -IGN
@gottesdominion4018
@gottesdominion4018 6 жыл бұрын
Cuthbert Nibbles 1/10 to much stupidity-IGN
@devilmonkey427
@devilmonkey427 6 жыл бұрын
ya the BuyBull is filled with too much stupidity.... The talking snake was just too much.
@irobot9250
@irobot9250 6 жыл бұрын
10/10. Whoops, forgot the negative sign
@ShutterGuts
@ShutterGuts 9 жыл бұрын
This should be shown in classrooms!
@norbertfleck812
@norbertfleck812 4 жыл бұрын
Try this: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult. 😁
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
That would be taking a stance on religion in a school setting, no better than teaching a particular faith in class.
@game-enjoyer13
@game-enjoyer13 3 жыл бұрын
hate to say it. but no. That’s just as bad as teachers teaching religion in a direct way, instead of a historical way. Teaching them atheism and teaching them theism will hold the same problem
@Cole444Train
@Cole444Train Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not
@ineedpineapples
@ineedpineapples 7 жыл бұрын
The Atheist through all this. A:.....................
@selfcompassionate
@selfcompassionate 5 жыл бұрын
well, you just wait for the circular reasoning to tire them out, and then you go in for the kill.
@Cnut_the_grape
@Cnut_the_grape 5 жыл бұрын
Yet he won
@thedestroyerofchairs9156
@thedestroyerofchairs9156 4 жыл бұрын
I am a christian and i think this video is dumb
@TheGamer14300
@TheGamer14300 4 жыл бұрын
the fallen emperor why explain
@thedestroyerofchairs9156
@thedestroyerofchairs9156 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGamer14300 i have no idea why, i don't even remember commenting that
@marcusfarr3433
@marcusfarr3433 3 жыл бұрын
This was my exact line of thinking when I started questioning. In World Religions class in high school, I realized that basically all the religions are the same so why is christianity the correct one?
@robertomondello2447
@robertomondello2447 2 жыл бұрын
Because christianity claim to be the true religion only because of competition, not because it is the only one.
@FruityHachi
@FruityHachi Жыл бұрын
I don't remember where I've heard it that "Christians won because we count years based on Christianity"
@piedpiper1172
@piedpiper1172 8 ай бұрын
Supposing there is some supernatural entity, and further suppose that at least one human group has actually, genuinely described the nature of that entity correctly. On odds, it’s just as likely to be some golden buffalo in a cave painting as any religion we’ve heard of today. No supernatural being seems much more probable.
@this_world.s_test
@this_world.s_test 2 күн бұрын
religions aren’t the same their concept and teachings are different. most of the religions were corrupted and followers just blindly believe it to be true. christian preachers start with good points, yet, after giving you some doubts they start forcing paganic beliefs on you(man god, sacrifice, etc)
@Boozer13
@Boozer13 8 жыл бұрын
It's meant to be subtle, but your William Lane Craig impression is fuckin spot on! Haha
@averageskeletonremover2415
@averageskeletonremover2415 4 жыл бұрын
Nonsense, the universe was created, as we all know, by the great Norse Titan Ymir.
@the_polish_prince8966
@the_polish_prince8966 4 жыл бұрын
I’m tempted to correct your wrong statement, but not for the reason you think. I’m a Heathen, I worship the gods described in that story. Ymir was Jotun, Titans are Greek. Ymir was killed and the universe made from his corpse, he wasn’t the creator.
@sophienugre4161
@sophienugre4161 4 жыл бұрын
You heathen! The flying spaghetti monster is the only god with the precision to create a universe like this!
@kurackurackurac
@kurackurackurac 7 жыл бұрын
Nice one. The ending is also very positive. The troubles sort themselves out by themselves, humanity is saved.
@NJ-wb1cz
@NJ-wb1cz 5 жыл бұрын
Totally unrealistic though. In reality each of them force others to kill each other on their behalf.
@antiHUMANDesigns
@antiHUMANDesigns 9 жыл бұрын
The human DNA is long, but it could fit on *one* CD. We have 3.235 billion base pairs in our DNA. Each base pair can be saved in 2 bits of information (00, 01, 10, 11 = A, G, T, C), which means we can fit 4 base pairs in one byte. That totals to slightly less than 810MB data, which just barely fits on one CD-R, which can hold 800-815MB, if I remember correctly. Just for perspective. It's long, but it's not insanely long. You can fit an entire family's DNA on a DVD, and 10 families' DNA on a BluRay disc. I could fit the DNA of almost *3000* people in the harddrive space on my computer. (2.4TB)
@daca8395
@daca8395 8 жыл бұрын
well since pares are only a-t g-c, you just need to code one side of double helix.
@antiHUMANDesigns
@antiHUMANDesigns 8 жыл бұрын
Danilo Popović Does it make no difference which side the A or T is on?
@daca8395
@daca8395 8 жыл бұрын
+antiHUMANDesigns well it does. you must know the position of each primary element of helix. but knowing one side also means you know the other. so if the word is ACCTAG, you already know the other side is TGGATC. This makes coding faster, becaouse you only need to encode one side of healix.
@antiHUMANDesigns
@antiHUMANDesigns 8 жыл бұрын
Danilo Popović You'd still need one bit of information to store which side the they are on, which meanas it's the same. I didn't propose to encode both sides, but our DNA is still 2bit/base4.
@daca8395
@daca8395 8 жыл бұрын
antiHUMANDesigns​ but why? You can just zse MSB to say what side you are coding and then just make a line of 2-bits characters. If you need other side, you would use program thet calculates what is on the oposit side. So its 1 one bit for side (0-left, 1-right) and array of n 2-bits characters. If you are encoding just a part of genom, you need tqo more memory informations, for start and end. So, you need two lets sya 16-bite for location, one 1-bite tipe for side and n 2-bite characters for genom.
@Rudxain
@Rudxain Жыл бұрын
3:05 that's what I call the "Generic Deity Fallacy" which is a special case of the Strawperson Fallacy. They try to defend their specific god by defending a more realistic and generic version of it, because they know that their specific version is easily debunkable, while the generic version is unfalsifiable
@shatterhacked
@shatterhacked 5 ай бұрын
Did you just rename the strawman fallacy to try to be politically correct?
@Rudxain
@Rudxain 5 ай бұрын
​@@shatterhacked on second thought, I should rename it to Straw-Human or Straw-{They/Them} to be more politically correct. Ok, jokes aside, it wasn't necessarily because of that. I just found it weird that it was called "straw-man". In my main language, it would be called "dummy" or "straw doll", which is inherently genderless and non-human
@shatterhacked
@shatterhacked 5 ай бұрын
@@Rudxain I was just saying… it has a name. The name is the strawman fallacy. That’s like referring to a person with a nickname that no one knew about. Idk, it just makes me feel weird when you rename things that have official names. Especially when you write it like this is how it’s always been.
@Rudxain
@Rudxain 4 ай бұрын
@@shatterhackedI kinda agree 👍
@radicalbimbo1069
@radicalbimbo1069 6 жыл бұрын
When the guy in middle had a realization... I felt that
@mercury7d
@mercury7d 8 жыл бұрын
It's actually a fair enough argument to be a deist. I mean, I'm atheistic, but I'd accept this explanation over the bible, Torah, Quran, Hindu scriptures, etc.
@GReid-ol5gk
@GReid-ol5gk 8 жыл бұрын
fair? I don't know about that. The most rational position to take into account anything metaphysical - absolutely.
@GReid-ol5gk
@GReid-ol5gk 8 жыл бұрын
***** That our universe's inception was purely natural?
@GReid-ol5gk
@GReid-ol5gk 8 жыл бұрын
+B0badenvero8 Well first, that's contingent on your definition of "nothing", and second, just because we don't have examples of other universe's being created - using these examples for documentation and study - doesn't mean that we can automatically assign our inception to something supernatural or beyond our recognized dimensions. That's an argument from ignorance, and it's similar to the facile watchmaker analogy. We merely haven't reached the scientific point where we can definitively assert that we know the answers to these questions, but an equally valid question would be: what examples of other supernatural deities do we have to compare to the one that supposedly made us and our universe? All I'm doing is siding with the null hypothesis until evidence, not speculation, is presented in a scientific manner.
@GReid-ol5gk
@GReid-ol5gk 8 жыл бұрын
***** What logical explanation? One that consists of an unfounded and unsubstantiated belief in a deity that hasn't been seen nor detected whatsoever by anyone, ever? All you're doing is appealing to complexity and ignorance. Just because you don't understand something or something is complex doesn't mean that a deity is responsible for it. That's absurd to assume that without evidence, hard evidence. That's the personification of irrational.
@GReid-ol5gk
@GReid-ol5gk 8 жыл бұрын
+B0badenvero8 Again, if you're going to insist on appealing to complexity or ignorance, then we have nothing to debate. I'm not going to keep reiterating that neither complexity nor being unaware of all the complexities this universe has to offer = deity. Without even knowing it, you made my point. Before we knew and understood electricity, it was thought that supernatural forces made lighting appear and disappear. Your stance is basically insinuating that they were justified in asserting that a deity caused said lightning. Reality and science shows otherwise, even if it took us longer to understand exactly what electricity was. That's why your argument is facile. No, we don't know EXACTLY how the universe formed, but we can make some damn good extrapolations based on evidence and mathematical calculations. Inserting a deity into the equation is superfluous.
@Gargoyle_Guy
@Gargoyle_Guy 9 жыл бұрын
Sort of reminds me of how the Ken Ham / Bill Nye debate went. Ken's answer to all Bill's scientific evidence was "magic".
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
"So far ALL testable evidence of life forms evolving falls within creation science limits. " OK, so for a fair minded person like me, who has just read the evidence outlined in Dawkins' new book, taken from the more than 2,000,000 peer reviewed publications that deal with evolution - where are the published papers that support what you've said here? What scientific papers, for example, refute the accepted decay rates of the radioactive isotopes that allow us to date rocks so accurately?
@phillipmoore9012
@phillipmoore9012 8 жыл бұрын
I would like to see an Apologist Christian and Fundamentalist Christian debate. I'm not quite sure how that would go though. I guess it would be rather one-sided. The Fundamentalist would just keep saying, "I have a book...".
@phillipmoore9012
@phillipmoore9012 8 жыл бұрын
+Phillip Moore Or maybe repeat, "How do you know that?" ad nauseam.
@MichaelJohnson-composer
@MichaelJohnson-composer 3 жыл бұрын
You should write for an comedy show. Your work is brilliant.
@catherine_404
@catherine_404 7 жыл бұрын
This feels like KZfaq archeology ) And finding nuggets of pure wit!
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 7 жыл бұрын
I, myself, am a KZfaq fossil.
@thefishgolder
@thefishgolder 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine my surprise when this gem of a channel was recommended 10 years late. Atleast I can enjoy it now
@jaymistry1169
@jaymistry1169 4 жыл бұрын
@@NonStampCollector You are best fossil we got
@thecommiesalami9217
@thecommiesalami9217 4 жыл бұрын
"But our book is so full of truth that only some parts of it contradict eachother" I fucking died and went no where when i heard this
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
Did you not just type: "Atheists are some of the most dogmatic people blind to evidence on the entire planet, equal in nearly every respect to the most extreme Christian right fundamentalists" No, that's not stereotying now, is it.
@Juanp76
@Juanp76 4 жыл бұрын
Best channel ever, I wish I'd discovered it a long time ago. I've been showing these videos to my young kids and they love them as well. They can enjoy the sarcasm and the humour, and at 8 and 10 years old they can recognise religion for the nonsense that it is; why some adults can't seem to outgrow these silly superstitions? It baffles the mind...
@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820
@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 Жыл бұрын
To be a theist, you have to make several assumptions without evidence. To be an atheist, all you have to do is not make m those assumptions and accept reality as it is. If kids were not indoctrinated into it, I dare say most of them would skip the assumptions altogether. Kids are a lot smarter than we give them credit for. I was raised in a religious home, and you could probably say I believed in god as a kid, just as much as I believed in Santa and the Easter Bunny. My family eventually told me the latter two were fake, but the first, totally real. Well, it doesn’t really take a genius to connect the dots. I didn’t have a massive de-conversion moment. Over time I just dropped the assumption of god’s existence because without evidence, there was no reason to hold on to it. As one might say of Santa or the Bunny, I just outgrew God. I didn’t need to lean on an imaginary being to explain anything. If not forced into their parents beliefs, but instead taught critical thinking and allowed to make up their own minds, I honestly think most kids would reject religion.
@Plantrum
@Plantrum 3 жыл бұрын
Here is another thing on the whole "the odds" argument. The big bang could have tried to start many times before. If you told me to bet 500 dollars that two dice will make a snake eyes on my first try, I laugh in your face. But if you said I could keep rolling until I got it, then I would take it without missing a heart beat. Any odds are possible given enough time.
@swiftmk5480
@swiftmk5480 3 жыл бұрын
great point! especially given the immense age of the universe already, it is certainly plausible
@Plantrum
@Plantrum 3 жыл бұрын
@@swiftmk5480 Thank you!
@MadNotAngry
@MadNotAngry 8 жыл бұрын
The way I look at it, the entire universe just kept crunching and banging, crunching and banging, forever, with slight alterations, till it finally exploded into the universe we enjoy today. It's really that simple.
@gibbethoskins8621
@gibbethoskins8621 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not enjoying it, actually i'm finding it pretty fucked. I agree with you're theory though, it's probably what happened/is happening and will happen continue to happen forever. We won't even be a memory. I can see why religious nuts have trouble processing that and choose fairy tales to comfort themselves to the fact. Fuck.
@maxwellsimon4538
@maxwellsimon4538 7 жыл бұрын
MadNotAngry another way to think about it is that we wouldn't be existing in a universe where it would be impossible to exist, so by the nature of existence, we had to be, by definition, within a universe that could support us
@NuclearLama
@NuclearLama 5 жыл бұрын
I logged in to comment the same thing poorly worded
@NuclearLama
@NuclearLama 5 жыл бұрын
@Alex Gowers but as long as gravity still affect on some level wouldn't it eventually consume the momentum of the big bang and start to pull everything back toward each other? even if it is an infinitesimal amount of pull if it just doesn't stop wont it eventually win?
@vesas5214
@vesas5214 4 жыл бұрын
@@NuclearLama No. Imagine this super simplified example: at time t1 something is moving away at speed 2 and gravity is slowing it down by rate 1. Now at time t2 the speed of 'something' is 1, but gravity is only slowing it down at rate 0.5 (because of increased distance). At time t3 it's moving at speed 0.5 but the slowing is 0.25 etc. time speed slowing (rate) t1 2 1 t2 1 0.5 t3 0.5 0.25 So in this example the speed is always double the slowing rate and it will never catch up. Gravitational pull will never stop but the speed is always ahead of it. (I realize that after all this might not be 'super simplified example' but I hope you get the point)
@gatopapao4336
@gatopapao4336 10 ай бұрын
The Fine Adjustment argument is like looking at a chair that is so fragile that all it takes is for a slightly heavy person to sit on it and it falls over, and then you say "See? The chair is so precise and perfect that all it takes is a little weight is placed on it and it already falls, this can only be the work of an intelligent carpenter".
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 10 ай бұрын
That's a good way to explain it.
@gatopapao4336
@gatopapao4336 10 ай бұрын
@@NonStampCollector OH NO-GOD, AN ATHEIST CHANNEL ANSWERED ME. I am now a realized atheist.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 10 ай бұрын
Do you feel seen?
@gatopapao4336
@gatopapao4336 10 ай бұрын
@@NonStampCollector Yeah
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 10 ай бұрын
Still?
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 7 ай бұрын
"I don't know" seems to be the hardest thing to swallow.
@MochiFam
@MochiFam 9 ай бұрын
With every new video I watch from you I call it my favorite. 😂 it’s great work really
@starsavers
@starsavers 8 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh nonstampcollector is still around?
@arytecht
@arytecht 4 ай бұрын
​@@starsaversyes, he just doesn't upload that much. but he still actively reads and replies to comments
@starsavers
@starsavers 4 ай бұрын
@@arytecht haha you're only 3 months late to this party
@arytecht
@arytecht 4 ай бұрын
@@starsavers lmao
@kevintisano2750
@kevintisano2750 9 жыл бұрын
right before he left, the atheist should have said "my work here is done"
@elephystry
@elephystry 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Tisano Personally, I reckon he should have sat there until the video ended, or go up to the podium and say "I win."
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that the atheist should stand up, walk toward the center of the stage, and take a bow.
@firstnamelastname7244
@firstnamelastname7244 5 жыл бұрын
I think he should've just turned to the audiance and said, "I rest my case."
@eisleyrd
@eisleyrd 4 жыл бұрын
"Well, I guess we could start a war...", priceless!
@XavierAtriedes
@XavierAtriedes 10 жыл бұрын
come on you infidels out in the car park now
@cbbuntz
@cbbuntz 10 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. William Lane Craig can do well in a debate when he approaches things from a vague philosophical standpoint. Once he starts talkin' Jebus, it falls apart. I was horrified by some of the stuff he wrote in reasonable faith. It's disgusting.
@sammypuro9392
@sammypuro9392 10 жыл бұрын
Lol, btw, I just wanted to ask why you and others say jebus? (I'm an atheist btw!:)
@cbbuntz
@cbbuntz 10 жыл бұрын
Sammy Puro Simpsons.
@sammypuro9392
@sammypuro9392 10 жыл бұрын
I still don't get it? :(
@abeed87
@abeed87 10 жыл бұрын
Sammy Puro youtube search Jebus
@cupass6179
@cupass6179 7 жыл бұрын
cbbuntz exactly. even Thomas Aquinas conceded that no logical man could get from deism to theism.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
So, what "claim" do you think that atheism is making? Do you actually think that atheism is making a claim any more solid than your "belief" that Zeus doesn't exist? Or Thor? Do you think that we are obliged to provide evidence that a deity such as, say, Yahweh, doesn't exist because we doubt its existence in exactly the same was as you doubt that of Ra? What is the "alternative" that you think atheism is failing to provide evidence for?
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
My video is making the claim that the ontological and teleological arguments do not assist any one religion over any other. Therefore, it is NOT a non-sequitor. The non-sequitor is being made whenever a believer in a particular branch of theism uses those arguments to "prove" their god's existence. If you're against non-sequitors, as I guess you are, you have a whole lot of religions out there to take issue with over this matter. Tell THEM to stop using deistic arguments to promote theism.
@Dokattak
@Dokattak 9 ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered what would happen if I asked, “If everything has a creator, then what created God?”
@RainAngel111
@RainAngel111 9 ай бұрын
I put 3 pots outside with seeds in them. One i put under the deck with no light or water. The second one i put under my patio so it got light but no water. The last one I put in a spot with adequate sunlight and rain. 2/3 pots didn't grow anything, therefore there's no creator. This logic is just as true as "there was a beginning so there must have been a beginner.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
Science must prove how life can originate without WHICH god? And why aren't you saying any of these: Science must prove how life can originate without gods / aliens from a seven-dimensional universe / magic life-giving unicorns / the ether / Zeus / the New Zealand deities Ranganui and Papatuanuku. ?
@chunchunmaru3644
@chunchunmaru3644 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Someone's intellect doesn't surpass the room's temperature, because in the comment he actually stated that you should prove Zeus didn't create the world in the same way you claim that god created everything. Which doesn't make sense, claims become reality once they're proven, the same applies for everything, but since all deities lack evidence, how would you claim that your god is the only true god ?
@chunchunmaru3644
@chunchunmaru3644 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Oh and why isn't Yahweh too just mythology? Just like zeus What makes your god more credible ?
@chunchunmaru3644
@chunchunmaru3644 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Before one billion people believed that the solar system is geocentric, does that make this claim any more credible? Not in the slightest, only solid evidence has proven that the solar system is heliocentric. So the number of believers doesn't define a claim's truthness, only solid evidence does, the same can be applied to your god, give me one solid evidence and I'll convert to whichever cult you belong to.
@chunchunmaru3644
@chunchunmaru3644 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Well on the second one you completely missed the point, there is no mount Olympus with gods on top, I second that, but is there a magical creator hiding in the skies and clouds for 2 millennia, no, at least not until solid evidence is presented, and that is my point.
@chunchunmaru3644
@chunchunmaru3644 4 жыл бұрын
@Hehe Hehe Someone's got a very peculiar brain, because I never ever mentioned the big bang but whatever, let's see, so my unicorn has no proof, and your god too, therefore my unicorn is real, see ? You used the same reasoning to "respond" which does not make any sense, one entity not having evidence doesn't make your beliefs true in the sligtest. Second of all, you can't compare a simple, inconsistent, incoherent, unprovable belief to a theory that has loads and loads of evidence, supported by the whole world's scientific communities, and as a quick example, gravity is just a theory too.
@doozy5184
@doozy5184 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how the atheist didn't even speak and the theists started tripping all over themselves. Says a lot about religion.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 12 жыл бұрын
OK, sorry to be the person that gets this one wrong. I should have consulted more Christians, and simply asked them "The god that you worship is Allah, right? You guys and the muslims believe pretty much the same things, right?" to which you're telling me they would all agree. OK.
@TabbyVee
@TabbyVee 3 жыл бұрын
remember back when a video with a "10 years ago" meant that it was some of the first videos on youtube, feels so weird seeing that and for it to seem more inline with modern youtube
@TheLobsterCopter5000
@TheLobsterCopter5000 2 жыл бұрын
"COME ON, YOU INFIDELS! OUT IN THE CAR PARK, NOW!"
@xJohnnyBloodx
@xJohnnyBloodx 9 ай бұрын
they all have the exact same argument, but it's all for a different god. What a twist.
@socialshipwreck8744
@socialshipwreck8744 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never really liked the idea of Christianity. If I live a good life and I’m sent to hell because I didn’t worship god i wouldn’t want to worship him anyways
@porchhonky6844
@porchhonky6844 3 жыл бұрын
It seems that God is more of an evil hateful tyrant than a good loving creator.
@sarker306
@sarker306 2 ай бұрын
"Our book is so full of truth that only some parts of it contradict each other."
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
Just checking something - people who block users do so because they don't want a free discussion of ideas (similar to Soviet Russia, China, North Korea).... does this apply to christian channels who block and edit comments? Are they also like totalitarian regimes? Just checking to see if consistency is important to you...
@DeHeld8
@DeHeld8 10 жыл бұрын
Please, come on people. "Allah" is not the name of the islamic god, it's just the Arabic word for "God". And I don't see why it's kept being sayed that the islamic god is different from the christian god or jewish god. It's the same mythological caracter!
@sclair2854
@sclair2854 10 жыл бұрын
In a way. But since Judaism and Christianity essentially believe it's fanfiction he may as well be treated as a different character.
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 10 жыл бұрын
What's that got to do with the price of rice in china?
@GoodOne4All
@GoodOne4All 10 жыл бұрын
Yes and no.. Yes the word allah is word used for God. It is basically two words combinded. Al means "The" and Lah means "God". Are they essential the same for all religion yes and no. For judaism God is for a certain groups of people who are bound by commandments and instructions (torah etc..) ; For christians God is for those who believe in a Triune figure/s as the ultimate divine being.. And in the triune, one of them took earthly form..? Lived and died..? And resurrected.. They threw out the old laws and follow new belief but hold to the old laws as a reminder and a connection to show the continuity of religion ; For muslims, it is very simple just like what the bible says in the early books God is the Only, Unique noting like him. Nothing earthly of him. Not a Male or a Female. Not for one group or nation but for all. Does not share, no intermediaries. And that's about it..
@breadeater1194
@breadeater1194 10 жыл бұрын
S Clair But Judaism says that Jesus and the Father are fanfiction.
@deathbysvent
@deathbysvent 9 жыл бұрын
Bread Hime But they both use the old testament. Islam doesn't use it. They rewrote it.
@williamongjiajiang1734
@williamongjiajiang1734 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't this about The Puddle Fallacy, Basically, the universe is 'fine-tuned' (it necessarily isn't ) to support human life (as we know it), and if the events or constants that help form our universe any different there would be nothing. (would it really?) It presents a false dichotomy (this happens a lot) that 'if so and so were different, there won't be a universe' How would theists know that? It'll be different sure, but won't there still be a universe? Who's to say that life won't form? The only certainty that there won't be a universe if everything that was is and will be discovered . No constants of any sort, no form of energy or matter. Just complete and utter nothingness from which no patterns can emerge because there is nothing form those patterns
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I tweeted it. It's a nice succinct version of what I usually say (which isn't my original anyway), namely that God sacrificed itself unto itself to convince itself to allow itself to forgive its own creations and save them from its own punishment in the eternal torture chamber that it had created.
@truthtrumpsdumbness638
@truthtrumpsdumbness638 10 жыл бұрын
I had to come back and watch this sublime reflection of humanity and its idiotic superstition, irrationality and prejudice, once more - bravo 10/10
@Ichabodcrane21
@Ichabodcrane21 10 жыл бұрын
I claim their arguments in the name of MANA-YOOD-SHUSHAI Before there stood gods on olympus, before allah was allah before Jesus and his trinity existed There he flew in the infinite darkness and cold that he created "In the mists before the Beginning, Fate and Chance cast lots to decide whose the Game should be; and he that won strode through the mists to MĀNA-YOOD-SUSHĀĪ and said: "Now make gods for Me, for I have won the cast and the Game is to be Mine." "
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 10 жыл бұрын
The silliness of "knowledge" by faith exposed so easily...
@shatterhacked
@shatterhacked 5 ай бұрын
I love that the atheist didn’t have to say a single word and still sort of won the debate.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
Hold on, which one advocates the virtues of faith in things unseen?
@epsteinisms1483
@epsteinisms1483 8 жыл бұрын
Ever hear the one about the two atheists who decided to get married? It didn't last - they couldn't agree on which religion NOT to bring up the children in.....
@cameoshadowness7757
@cameoshadowness7757 6 жыл бұрын
That doesn't work. Athiest don't believe in ANY so they'll reject it ALL.
@nbeshark2584
@nbeshark2584 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameoshadowness7757 r/woooosh
@elephystry
@elephystry 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that was horrible
@simsi1616
@simsi1616 14 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of your videos NSC!
@pipsch12
@pipsch12 8 жыл бұрын
Why are you so good? I think you're really awesome, NonStampCollector. I love you. :D
@theseventhgear4475
@theseventhgear4475 6 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic that the best arguments I’ve ever heard for theism was from an athiest.
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 7 жыл бұрын
I worship Zeus...
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 7 жыл бұрын
Hail Thor
@Shino2213
@Shino2213 7 жыл бұрын
praise Odin
@axolord1455
@axolord1455 7 жыл бұрын
Wildman Samurai the true god, the flying spaghetti monster
@TW-um5hs
@TW-um5hs 7 жыл бұрын
We all have Thursday!!! Thor's day!!!!
@aurorafrost288
@aurorafrost288 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Pesci. Because he comes across as the type of guy who can get things done.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 12 жыл бұрын
Man, "your" tweet got 130+retweets and was seen by 60,000 people.
@kevinbacon5492
@kevinbacon5492 6 жыл бұрын
Foolish mortals. The true God is the great spaghetti monster.
@madeyeloony2047
@madeyeloony2047 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bacon yes it is ! Ramen
@mabros26
@mabros26 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Spaghetti lord Cheesus! Ramen!
@carerforever2118
@carerforever2118 4 жыл бұрын
No, God is a sun according to the Bible lol 🤣Psalm 84 :11 For the Lord God is a sun 🌞 John 8 :12 I am the Light of the world🌞 Malachi 4:2 Sun of righteousness 🌞 That's why they put a picture of the Sun on some the Bibles instead of a drawing of Jesus. The Old Testmement was written in Hebrew, Hebrew word for Sun is Shemash, Shemash was the Sun-God of the Sumerians and the Babylonians in 2,100 BC. That's why Christians worship on a SUNday🌞, they worship a ancient Sun-God and don't even know it🤣
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 15 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting that Pasteur figured out bacteriology BEFORE he ever became sceptical about SG? Do you not think that perhaps the doubts began to creep in first, which led him to then carry out some experiments? And remind me again why I have to have experiments carried out and theories proved and published before I publicly express doubts about the "A mono-theistic deity must of dunnit" theory.
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 12 жыл бұрын
Man, can you tweet that so I can retweet it?!
@joshuavd5194
@joshuavd5194 3 жыл бұрын
30 seconds in, already thumbs up the video! "you are going to regret trying to take us on, on your own" - moderator.
@francisluglio6611
@francisluglio6611 5 жыл бұрын
A theist, an agnostic and an atheist all see that something is rattling in the thrash. The theist says that it can't be nothing, so it must be a dragon. The agnostic says that it might be a dragon, it might not be. The atheist says, "I don't know but it's not a dragon". The agnostic and the theist both think that the atheist is crazy.
@kurthuffman8116
@kurthuffman8116 4 жыл бұрын
That's not what an atheist would say
@francisluglio6611
@francisluglio6611 4 жыл бұрын
Kurt Huffman weird. For some reason, you didnt convince my atheist mind of that
@kurthuffman8116
@kurthuffman8116 4 жыл бұрын
@@francisluglio6611 well an atheist is someone who lacks belief in any gods. In this situation lacking belief in any dragon. Saying that it isn't a dragon is a positive statement that has nothing to do with atheism and requires evidence. If you claim it's not a dragon then you have to support it. In your scenario the only person who doesn't have faith is the agnostic which by the way is not a stance. Agnosticism is an extension of atheism or theism that describes the knowledge of the atheist or theist. An agnostic atheist for example is somebody who doesn't know if there is a God or not but, lives as rejects the notion until it is proven. And agnostic theist is someone who doesn't know if there is a God but, chooses to accept the notion.
@francisluglio6611
@francisluglio6611 4 жыл бұрын
Kurt Huffman you're saying that an atheist is someone who has faith in not having faith. That's pointless. I know that there's always a chance that I'll be hit by a car when I cross the street but I have faith that if I'm responsible then I wont get into an accident. Why? Because I need to live my life. Not because I'm dedicated to reminding myself that there's more than a 0% chance of getting hit every time I need to cross the street. An atheist is someone who made a decision. An atheist is not someone who turns that decision into their whole life
@kurthuffman8116
@kurthuffman8116 4 жыл бұрын
@@francisluglio6611 The only decision that marks an atheist is the decision to not believe in any dieties. In your original you had the atheist saying there were no dragons which is assertive a negative claim that is unprovable which would mean that the atheist had faith that there was no dragon. You are the one saying atheists have faith. That is not at all what an atheist is. Also that car analogy doesn't even make sense in a religious debate. The debate is about knowledge not responsibility. If you are responsible there is a zero percent chance because you could just not cross the street if there's a car. Stop misrepresenting the atheist viewpoint it makes us all look bad.
@synchronicity23218
@synchronicity23218 9 ай бұрын
I imagine if there is a god, they're laughing at us because of all these labels we created for our own self satisfaction, and that those labels doesn't match their descriptions at all
@klarens000
@klarens000 10 жыл бұрын
truth is that atheists did not torture, killed, burned, raped etc ppl who disagree with them about god's existence. religious ppl have done all this things to ppl who didn't believed in their version(atheists, ppl from other religions, sometime ppl who said something or asked something "wrong"). very good video with very good point...
@conscienceaginBlackadder
@conscienceaginBlackadder 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Communist regimes. Mao and Pol Pot.
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 5 жыл бұрын
conscience aginBlackadder yeah i was gonna say that. And what about Nazis?
@comicyoshidude3181
@comicyoshidude3181 5 жыл бұрын
Guys let's be real everyone fights to different extremes to get their way for it's human nature. Does not matter what religion, race, or place that these fights occur since it happens in all three. Let's just be glad that social conditions are favorable for fighting strategically with verbal words so that we can discover for ourselves what truths are out there in the real world.
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 5 жыл бұрын
@vvenomm 492 one principle tenet of Marxism is atheism, because religion is a means for people to gain power over others
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 5 жыл бұрын
@Buddy3439 everybody serves something.
@demosthenes995
@demosthenes995 5 жыл бұрын
Why I'm agnostic. I believe this world was created but it doesn't neccesarily mean that this is a man made God
@safir2241
@safir2241 5 жыл бұрын
I think it wasn’t a man made god but rather a man god. We probably simulated a world
@alvinkihika7263
@alvinkihika7263 3 жыл бұрын
These guys should come back...We need the content
@labyrinthdweller6707
@labyrinthdweller6707 3 жыл бұрын
But my religion! But my religion! Buuut my religion! But my religion! And on and on and on and on....
@SuperSiege
@SuperSiege 9 ай бұрын
So, their argument is, "The probability of the universe and life forming the way it did is so low that a god had to have caused and directed it."? But the probability of the universe being the way it is now is 100%.... There is only one universe, after all. To act like alternative universes were possible at all is kind of begging the question. And as for life, well, organisms becoming more complex due to evolution is more of an inevitability than a near impossibility. So, yeah, I don't really buy this.
@bedro_0
@bedro_0 5 ай бұрын
That's kinda untrue lol. Imagine flipping a coin and getting tails and saying that the probability that you would get tails on that exact flip is 100% because it already happened...
@shatterhacked
@shatterhacked 5 ай бұрын
@@bedro_0 well the probability was 100% according to classical physics. But that’s a good point, this argument doesn’t make sense. A better one is, no one ever once demonstrated that it is unlikely that the universe turned out this way. Because we have never been able to experimentally test the formation of universes.
@Ed-Osande
@Ed-Osande 2 жыл бұрын
The reasoning of the atheist was par to none. That guy knows exactly when to speak…
@zahawolfe
@zahawolfe 3 жыл бұрын
This is f***ing brilliantly well done
@aussiebaka4588
@aussiebaka4588 10 жыл бұрын
It's like this is a spoof of so many debates that I've watched lately ... except that this was made first. It's almost like prominent Christians literally wrote their debate scripts from this video. :P
@maxdoubt5219
@maxdoubt5219 7 жыл бұрын
A great answer to a perennial problem. First the theists present arguments for theism over atheism, then they take a huge unjustified leap to _their_ god.
@ReverendLondo
@ReverendLondo 14 жыл бұрын
"But our book is so full of truth that only SOME parts of it contradict eachother." Amazing.
@alanroberts7916
@alanroberts7916 3 жыл бұрын
11 years and you finally got a like !!!
@NonStampCollector
@NonStampCollector 13 жыл бұрын
@Drgamedood You're partially correct. Checking which god they're talking about would certainly ascertain whether they really WERE a deist, though, wouldn't it? If their answer was really "I don't know", then I would have no dispute with them. By the way: are you an idiot? You used the wrong "they're/their/there". You fail.
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