www.davidbarronfurniture.co.uk A look at different styles of Norris smoothers.
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@davidbarronwoodwork11 жыл бұрын
Hi, Spiers planes are just as good as Norris, particularly the older ones. All the best, David.
@philaandrew1002 жыл бұрын
My go to plane for that final finish.
@slomkaadas9603 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for upload. Now I know what I have in my hands. Cheers 🍻
@GrahamOrm11 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, enlightening and interesting.
@jonny67h2 жыл бұрын
I think I got one other the Matheson planes, I thought it was a norris but it didn't have the stamp on the brass. The person who sold it to me had no idea what she was selling and neither did I till I got home...not bad for £15
@deezynar11 жыл бұрын
thanks, mr. barron. that's probably the closest i'll ever get to one of those. they don't show up where i live.
@davidbarronwoodwork11 жыл бұрын
Hi, I share your sentiment, I'm not sure about the comfort though! All the best, David.
@smfield11 жыл бұрын
What do you think about spiers?
@adamlynch46079 жыл бұрын
Can you please find me one for £200? I've been looking for many years. I have one identical to your non adjustable that was £60 because the guy listed it as a ward as it has a ward iron it's a stunning plane. I also have a spiers that has been seriously messed with over the years but works well.
@hardflip2lateflip11 жыл бұрын
make a big cabinet to display all your awesome planes. if I had a norris or even a lie nielsen I'd probably take it to bed and put it under my pillow :)
@icespeckledhens9 жыл бұрын
What grinding angle do Norris use, is it the same as Bailey 25 degrees
@davidbarron83878 жыл бұрын
+icespeckledhens Yes I think they used a lower angle than 30 but I've never actually seen a Norris blade that has not been reground. All the best, David.
@TerryPullen9 жыл бұрын
David, as an amateur woodworker do I need an infill plane or can I successfully work with any wood using Baily pattern planes? Or for that matter wood planes?
@JoeMalovich9 жыл бұрын
You should never need an infill plane, pattern or wood, even made by yourself can perform the same with enough tuning skill.
@arnoldemch91819 жыл бұрын
The Spiers planes are very similar in structure to the norris plane but mainly lacked the micro adjuster. The Baily plane is a carpenter's plane. These planes work great with lower tolerance requirements and softer woods like your coniferous species. The Baily patent actually had two forms... the std Baily and the Bed Rock. Lie Nielsens are based on the Bed Rock. But I have found the Baily micro adjuster to get sluggish at higher pitches. The Baily has a wide mouth and a 45 degree (common) pitch. The norris was often a york pitch or better and had a much smaller mouth. Not all norris adjusters are the same. Some had right hand and left hand threads leading to lash in the system. I like a dual thread, solid spindle. The use of a "hammer" to precisely adjust your plane projection is better than most think. I use a small brass hammer to softly adjust machinist's buttons to within ONE HALF of ONE thousandths of an inch when making plane parts in my tool room shop. Spiers was a son of a cabinet maker who began making planes and was one of the first to use dovetailed plane construction methods to make bench planes. How "smooth" a plane cuts is often dependent on how the plane glides and how it absorbs the higher frequency shrill of the cut process. An infill plane is acoustically dead and more so than a cast iron plane. After time, you will be able to both feel the difference and hear the difference with your eyes closed. The bed rock design was an attempt to improve on the Baily short comings in this regard without going to the complexity and expense of building an infill style plane. The infill planes are best suited for final, hyper precise work and not really the initial shaping work. IF (*a big if in the day of electric jointers and planers) your going to flatten a piece of do for a project, you should be able to use a "scrub" plane or badger to hawg down to the basic dimensions as soon as possible and then use the bailey to zero in. Lastly, you use the infill plane for that final Gossamer Shaving leaving you with a surface unlike any other surface prep method. NOTHING BEATS AN INFILL PLANE FOR FINAL SURFACE! The infill plane is truly a super precise, yet hand operated, tool. Wooden planes need lots of work and need to be cared for. But they have a different feel, sound and cut than a metal plane or a cast iron plane. In the right hands, they perform very well.
@Tome4kkkk7 жыл бұрын
Well said. Also The English Woodworker has several videos on the subject. Strictly *amateur beginner oriented*.
@daw1627 жыл бұрын
A bailey plane will do final surface work at least as well as a norris, but it does take a user with enough skill to set the cap iron properly (which isn't that much skill - there just aren't enough competent instructors willing to teach a beginner to do it). On top of that, the adjuster mechanism is superior in a bailey, especially for fine work. Norris adjusters are pleasing to look at, but as a matter of practicality, way too coarse. For what it's worth, the norris planes work fine on thin shavings without a cap iron set, but they are a far more capable plane with the cap iron set properly, too. That includes the old ones.
@453421abcdefg123456 жыл бұрын
David W: I am not sure just what type of Norris plane you have, but to say the adjustment in "course" is the exact opposite to the facts, the two thread adjuster was designed for the specific purpose of giving a fine and precise adjustment, one turn being divided between two threads.
@453421abcdefg123456 жыл бұрын
I have never understood why the Stanley/Bailey type of plane became so popular, purely on price I suspect, these planes, with their excellent thick irons and fine adjustment are worlds ahead, you only have to pick one up and try it on a whirly grain piece of wood to see the difference, they are not difficult to make (I have made 5 of them), so I cannot understand why a company has not made them in china, even a Chinese copy of one of these would be an improvement on the thin iron on the "modern" Stanley type plane.
@iotaje16 жыл бұрын
The concern of price is a good bet. Most tradesmen did their job to feed their family, and did what was efficient to put food on the table and keep the client satisfied. There really is no point to pay three times as much on a handplane when you'll end up sanding everything anyway and apply thick sloppy coats of varnish.
@tylersmith98682 жыл бұрын
@@iotaje1 sanding everything away? Lol what. Finish right off the hand plane dude
@iotaje12 жыл бұрын
@@tylersmith9868 Historically once sandpaper became affordable, what was used the most for finishing?
@alphaomega73254 жыл бұрын
"The blade is cast steel." - Just wondering.
@Kikilang606 жыл бұрын
At this time the Germans where making Crystal meth, while the British made Norris plans. Think about it.