"Wha-what is gone?"

​your healthbar. It is all gone

Yeah I remember when the first game came out and everyone was up in arms over the devs pandering to the undead, orc, and mutant demographics. I guess they are really just SJWs.

@@madlarkin8 Definitely culturally marxist, fantasy-commulist kislev-bolsheviks

Lol, that's an underrated comment.

VC doesn't work here, You must specify: ''Vampire COAST'', not the ''Vampire COUNTS''. 'VC' abbreviation is done for

Hold my rum

Would love to see Grail Knights running away in horror from that bloated corpse ;)

I like to think it's because the necrofex is literally standing over the battlefield, giving it a very good line of fire. It's like being on a permanent hill.

Necrofex is giving Ancient Tree Man general a run for his money

Honestly, if the Queen Bess hits its shots, it can take out elite infantry in a hit or two. Hell, often times, you won't need a second because they'll be mangled, crippled, and nearly out of leadership.

to be fair if a suicide unit did any less than that it would literally never be worth bringing. if you have to basically give up a unit slot for it, it better damn well remove at least one enemy unit entirely.

big boi looks fast as fuck too with that charge speed

Well it is a campaign unit . It cannot be used in multiplayer Bec. It has really low health so any range or spells or even bats will cause it to blow up early maybe even damaging your own army . So it is just fun unit not useful one

amr kotb Unless you're facing a faction with crap ranged power like Vampire Counts or Beastmen.

@@amrkotb8464 that's where you cast stalk on him, nothin better than a suicide bomber with a ghellie suit!

You should call the build the jenkins

you will lose ever battle vs ranged units, unless you have a decent lord to clean up and deal with cav

Record it lol

​@@kodaxmax Time to go to the Empire to fight your ranged unit-less cousins in Sylvania.

@@narxes Then i have to cross there gross green grassy fields and luscious forests, i might as well go stand in the sun

Seems fun, make it cost a fuck ton in MP but I want it as is in Campaign

I guarantee you the moment that spell gets nerfed, there will be people that says 'that spell was already fair and now it sucks!'. I'm however in the overpowered category.

@Magni56 I don't see it actually being that good when it comes to experienced players, other than forcing someone to fall back a little while taking missile fire. Now with less experienced players distracted by a cav battle on the side, that spell is going to shred armies.

YOHOHO AND A BOTTLE OF RUM

Just watching the vid i would say the dwarfs are still supreme in ranged, but its mostly because they lack the leadership issues on the front line so they can keep in the fight, help the ranged keep shooting, coupled with the stupid power of their short range artillery and arch fire quarrelers....but thats rather questionable till we get our hands on them since range can be a big factor.

To get back to you after some 1v1 unit testing and watching some others. The dawi still reign supreme in a straight shoot out. The quarrelers alone can out shoot pretty much any ranged non artillery unit the vampire coast has as can the thunderers, the shields and armour once again proves excellent. In the artillery area cannons are still very good, im going purely from what i can extrapolate here because the ai is a numpty and kept trying to charge me with the caronnades but when shooting i found them inaccurate so they are likely a danger to the closing infantry but they shouldn't be pulling a good counter battery on the dwarf cannons any time soon. Only real issue is queen bess but the cannons still do a number and if you back them up with another cannon or the engineer they should win. Thats a real point in dawi favor as well, the engineer can still buff your ranged quite well and is only a hero so you still have selection of your lord of choice.

@@00yiggdrasill00 Another consideration is that the V.coast has inferior infantry to the Dawi, so they need to devote more slots toward infantry to hold the line. Speaking of witch, would you have any suggestions for V.C players going up against the Dwarfs? I've had two such matchups since posting and have been utterly pasted both times.

@@Antidragon-nl7by im not much of a pvp player so i cant guarantee anything...but speaking as a dwarf player, do keep in mind that while the coast front line will fail to kill much they take an age to be killed so use that time to kill them in other ways. Remember that the dwarfs are over all very slow while the coast has several quick flying units to use as well as monsters. Slayers are pretty much the best anti large i can think of but get ripped apart by missile attacks. Using speed to get in places they dont want you is vital against such high leadership and armour. I saw a unit testing where the mourngul haunter did very nasty things to most dwarf lords and units. The deep guard should beat anything outside hammerers.the caronnades have high damage and against slow moving blocks of infantry the inaccurate fire doesn't hurt so much.

@@00yiggdrasill00 I've playtested your suggestions and it looks like you were spot on the money. Thank you for the advice.

VC still looks like it has a better frontline (because it only has a frontline) and airforce

it would seem but the new bloodline lords are really really good, especially the von carstein

They are meant to play differently. Which one is better or worse is pretty much depends on what kind of play style do you like the most.

If you're worried about the range of the Vampire Coast then you need to close the distance faster or disrupt their range. Good thing the Vampire Counts can do both.

@@spudastic How does it? they have better zombies and the depth guard

too bad globardiers are shit

IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou? I feel the same with ogre kingdoms!

Looking forward to Chaos Dwarves

IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou? Is WH3 actually confirmed for 2019?

@@kapitanbeuteltier5889 Nope, source: I'm from the future.

Would be so tough, especially versus Thorgrim. Mofos never waver

Mournghuls, Stalk+ anti infantry, their ranged wont see them coming until it's too late

or vlad von carstein

@@cenkcamkiran with an ass amount of wolves, bats,vargheist and some skelebois to fight them

"oh cool, a wind spell, they can do a litle bit damage.... fuck"

Yes

I play these guys often and I never even use them unless they're given. The damage is quite large but not worth a whole unit slot replaced every time.

aren't cygor boulders still considered OP?

its powercreep for selling DLC

@@SlaaneshChampionMako oh that is an interesting thought never considered that.

@@harvsterg5939 theyll be nerfed once sales die down, like always

Beastmen and Lizardmen need some help

As a big Bretonnia fan, Bloated Corpses scare the shit out of me. Just having the threat of them nearby, makes charging in with Calvary seem like a bad plan, and obviously trying to hope that my ranged peasants can survive long enough to kill them so my Calvary can charge in seems perilous. I think Empire, Elves (all kinds) and Dwarfs have the best rosters for fighting these dudes. Maybe Greenskins too since they don't really care about taking big chunks into their army, and if the frontline infantry are really that bad, the Boyz should carve em up nice once they get there.

they're not supposed to, they're just meatshields

Thats not how CA works, they probably wont get a nerf until the next content pack. I think they are afraid of doing updates in between content releases after the Norsca fuck up.

@@pyranna2003 Well that and I think they just want people to buy them because they are OP, then they will hit them with a nerf after the launch hype. I buy the DLCs regardless, but there is definitely some balancing issues going on here. No one spell should delete 3 full health regiments with little to no warning.

Das a lotta damage lol

spam necrofex and summons

@@dudex233 Thanks. What you mean with summons?

@@321AlterSchwede lords and heroes and spells which can summon units. they are useful for bogging the enemies down.

Undead dwarfes with no armor

Damages all units map-wide, activates on spells being cast. Think of it like any of the other lore's passive "regen when casting" but damaging instead, so it ain't great

SSD.

VC still Vampire Counts, you can't replace it. Vampire Coast is VP (Vampirates). Von Carstein you just have to write out; you can't nickname them VC, it's not dignified.

unit size in the advanced graphics options. he has his on ultra and you have yours on small

@@howdareyouexistthank you comrade for answering

Nick Buchowisch lesser vampires

Hmm just like the feral vampires ? Or they used to be human at some point?

Nick Buchowisch every vampire used to be human at some point... These vampires are just not as powerful as the main vampires like the von carsteins

Yep. ...well, with raise dead you can probably have some fun if you have a spare slot. ...And I suppose if you have a support army with you, you can throw a few in that aswell. But they seem a bit useless, too bad 'cause the model is cool.

I'd say otherwise honestly It's pretty much a free instant vortex for a pretty low price, but I wouldn't bring more than one obviously As you saw, any unit that it gets its hands on... they die and or instantly rout. Pretty sure there's a lore of deep spell that allows you to cast Stalk onto the selected unit, so that'll be fun aswell

They will have some strategic use. Early own especially. And raise the dead will make it worth your time I would say.

I would highly recommend bringing at least 1 bloated corpse for the following combo. Vampire Captain (deeps) cast a Kraken's Pull spell on enemy frontline Bloated corpse gets thrown into the clump killing 200+

Was said with Beastmen, then Wlves, Bretonnia, Norsca, TKs ... most of them returned to be rather obscure and depending too much on micro and gimmicks for wide appeal ... expect the same with Vampirates ..

They're far from op, go watch the recent everchosen invitational. They're very strong in their ranged but they have plenty of counter play.

@@Chidy398 If you play without any dlc you are at a serious disadvantage against those who have some, since they enable access to new units which have are more cost effective, especially regiments of renown

Not even their ranged play is that op, they are outgunned by quite a few factions, you can compare individual units 1 by 1 and see that the similar missile factions do more dmg with their similar units

* only regiments of renown, also they cost as much as they worth

Some content creators get early access. The official release date for the DLC is November 8th.

Bird Up I know this is late lol but it would have been soooo cool if they had done that and one of the lords was a spell caster that had a similar design to Ursula

Awww is the poor person jealous?

The eternal question of to weak or to powerful. I find it always quite funny how there are threads dedicated to both extremes. Yes it is a decent idea to pretend that CA promotes their content by making them "overpowered" in the only goal lure more people to buy the dlc. Though I have never seen that business model in TW Warhammer. Tweaking will be on its way anyways over the months.

@@Bigbossbalrog Nah I think the 3-4 units that got 1 shotted by a single spell are sad.