Just ordered my tracer 7, lowered for my short legs, looking forward to many years riding on this... Sunny side up everyone 🙌
@ChrisWeaving2 жыл бұрын
I purchased my 2022 tracer based on this review, first bike in 20 years and I'm absolutely loving it. Even got the same colour.. Thanks NothingToProve 👍
@martinrea85482 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear. How is she on secondary roads, cornering on the country lanes etc?
@thearcheryapprentice85112 жыл бұрын
Great and honest review again. I'm looking forward to the new Triumph Tiger Sport 660 and how it will stand up and compare in this class of middle weight sport touring bikes!
@stahlbergpatreon6062Ай бұрын
Good review. About the windscreen, I think the buffeting is mostly wind coming up from lower down, about knee-high. Due to the lack of faring there. About the jerky throttle, could be a loose chain or an ECU issue.
@michaelironrider94432 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this (as always) honest review, Scott 👍. As I miss my old CBF600 in a modern version (currently riding a 650R), there's no middle class Sports Tourer in the market that really convinces me (all lack some features, and/or make a cheap impression to me). Looking forward to see the Tiger 660 in 2022!
@OperationFoxley19441 Жыл бұрын
Me too I loved my Honda CBF 600
@aher89able11 ай бұрын
Miss mine old 06-CBF600s to.
@renes9966 Жыл бұрын
Love your 'excel spreadsheets' - they are so helpful!
@mindspinn3112 жыл бұрын
This is the one Yamaha still not sold in the US market and I’ve been asking Yamaha North America for years to bring it here, especially after the update. It may have no true competitor, but it’s following the trend began by the Versys 650 over a decade ago. The NC750X is the probably the closest competitor for now, but the upcoming Tiger Sport 660 will be a direct competitor.
@zsoltkovacs1492 Жыл бұрын
Tiger is rather between tracer 7 and 9 because the Tiger has a 3 cylinder engine.
@conguero72645 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s because the tracer7 is made in France by Yamaha /MBK France and not in Japan.
@thunderbear02 жыл бұрын
I don't know but yamaha makes the best design for their bikes Tenere or tracer they are breath taking and both are my dream bikes
@poknikkama22252 жыл бұрын
always a pleasure to watch your video scott
@enriquecolin282 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual, Scott! Excellent comparison chart. Regarding the bike, interesting option, Yamaha achieved a well proportioned machine at least aestethicaly. Sadly not many sport tourings available here in Mexico (inlcuding this one of course), that´s a shame.
@delwilliams90422 жыл бұрын
I think the Tiger 660 due next year will boss this sector. Great review 👏
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I think so too 👍
@aressimbamt09592 жыл бұрын
yamaha is proven reability and name..
@HonzaKuranda Жыл бұрын
Have it from 2020, did over 15K km and this is day to day machine, does its job perfectly, I love playing with it, almost like on bicycle as it goes to maneuvring. Perfect for city riding. Fuel consumption - 3.8 l per 100km, absolutely no complaints, ride smooth, not idela for longer trips on highways and definitely, you will change the windscreen, it SUCKS. Also seat can be more comfy, thinking about changing it. And as you get better driver, you start to think about more powerful engine, meaning you would want to upgrade the bike :) But at the same time you dont want because its lovely thing. BTW - Michelin tires - wow, after 15K I think it s still like new, they last and last.
@SchroederUSMC2 жыл бұрын
I love this guys reviews. Nice, but honest in the important areas. I picked up an older Monster 1100 Evo, where his review put it over the edge vs another 821/1200.
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
The 2011 Monster 1100 evo is still today my favorite Ducati to ride. Air cooled (the last big Monster before they went liquid cooled and got heavier, so very light for the engine size) and all the electronics that we have today, albeit the first gen, still advanced electronics for the time. This was when Ducati's were still simple and we normal humans could work on them and not have to pay an expensive mechanic to do the maintenance. It is a "riders" bike, period. Not many Ducatis are made to be ridden, this one IS! Enjoy it, take care of it and it will give you miles and miles of smiles 😁👌👍 take care, Scott
@marksimpson52182 жыл бұрын
You were spot on about the screen, I prefer the naked Mt07
@BlazinBlades2 жыл бұрын
I bought the exact same bike A2 license is plenty strong 175 km/h indicated top speed and most of the torque accelerates the bike beautifully! They cut off fueling at around 7,500 rpm which is plenty for all road applications in my book 😎
@stiliyanivanov30762 жыл бұрын
Italy's most sold - TRK 502, can be in the list. Triumph & Aprilia will joint the party soon. Good reviews there!
@TorsteinTheFallen2 жыл бұрын
Benelli is 2nd league manufacturer...
@luckylarrikin14392 жыл бұрын
Another great show (somehow I had become unsubscribed . . . . fixed that now). The graph showing the other bikes is always KILLER!
@kevinchan16632 жыл бұрын
The nearest rival is versys 650
@KrazyKanucker2 жыл бұрын
Strange this bike isn't available in Canada. Everyone loves the CP2 motor and sounds amazing with an exhaust. I talked to a guy that has a tenere 700 today also with a CP2 and exhaust, sounds great.
@capt.nelsonsilva6352 жыл бұрын
I liked the video! Thinking of buying a tracer 7, but as I'm 1.92m tall..... I haven't decided yet. congrats from the island of Madeira.
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Greetings from Germany! See if you can go and sit on one cause I'm a bit shorter than you and it was kind of cramped for me. The Tracer9 fit me better. Ride safe, Scott
@saphinq99897 ай бұрын
I got Tracer 700, im 2.03m tall😂
@keithd872 жыл бұрын
As always, pure joy to hear you explain and guide us riders through your reviews. My heart is saying Tracer 7, my mind is saying NC750x just because it has a bit more features (Traction control and ride by wire - 4 riding modes mainly), and it's a tad bit cheaper. Being 163cm (without riding boots) I also prefer the 800mm seat of the Honda, but jeez that Tracer gets my heart racing! What do you think?
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Yea, the T7 will give you more excitement but the Honda is the bike you will want to take home to mama 👍😁
@pballerss2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the same page as you... Still struggling between the tracer 7 and the nc750x 🤔
@autodidact5372 жыл бұрын
@@NothingToProve The question I want answered is: why won't Yamaha sell the Tracer 7 in North America?
@keithd872 жыл бұрын
@@pballerss have you chosen yet?
@pballerss2 жыл бұрын
@@keithd87 yep. Got me a nice nc750x 2021. It is not as powerful as the tracer 7 and definitely has less biting power on the front breaks BUT got it almost 2k cheaper than the tracer, the average gas consumption is a bit lower. Using it as a daily driver and touring bike, it is spot on for me. Right I am on the 5000km mark (and counting since I'm on a gas break 🤣) BTW, the riding modes on the 2021 version, really change the bike! Sport is awesome to have some weekend fun, rain makes it stupid safe, standard for daily drives 👌
@gazzertrn2 жыл бұрын
Don't know where this is filmed , but some really lovely countryside to be seen .
@problemslayer35384 ай бұрын
Yep you definitely did, now you've got everything to prove
@jamiedyer77822 жыл бұрын
I love it wish they would make an 850 twin version with the electronics package the tracer 9 gt has. That would be a great stepping stone between the two. I love the tracer 9 gt but it is seriously fast, I might get a new one next year but not getting rid of the 7 lol
@xargayo2 жыл бұрын
I see many people saying the new Tiger 660 Sport will be a competitor to the Tracer 7. I think it is a given that it will be miles better. For me the question is how it compares to the BMW 900XR. Hope you can test one soon!
@shreksexy68792 жыл бұрын
NTP, Great review as always. Any idea on when the Tracer 7 GT will be sold in the states? If the GT offers cruise control it will out sell it's competition easily. Germany looks beautiful, enjoy it & ride safe.
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
I have no clue as to why the Japanese OEMs do things like this to the North American market. But one guess is that they think it won't sell in the American market, well at least well enough to make money. 😒 "small" or "smaller" usually does not do well in the U.S., especially with touring bikes 😒 I think Yamaha is missing out on bringing in younger potential customers to the brand by not bring this to the American market. They've been selling this in Europe since 2016. So I don't think it'll get to the U.S. any time soon 😥 take care, Scott
@johnmackay34582 жыл бұрын
good review as usual .have thought about Maxi scooter such as the Honda Forza 750 which uses the NC750 motor.
@markb31802 жыл бұрын
Good honest review thank you
@IanTed2 жыл бұрын
Looks better than the 900🤨, dash is far better but why can’t manufacturers supply a decent screen?
@TheHedzerG2 жыл бұрын
you can get the GT version of it and that got a bigger touring screen, and you can also order the touring screen as a option aswell
@jonathanwardle20522 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Tracer 9gt and would agree on the looks. The screens must be designed for little Japanese test riders . Both excellent bikes tho' .
@The3332 жыл бұрын
I was not aware of this model Tracer - as a Tenere owner, it feels like Yamaha took a Tenere, stripped off the ADV accessories, and replaced them with Street accessories and voila - the Tracer 7. The frame geometry, stance and performance numbers all seem identical to the Tenere. Exactly the same engine.
@The3332 жыл бұрын
@@RRRRefuelRideRace I disagree completely - although I will concede I have that I may have it reversed with the Tenere emerging from the Tracer 7's DNA - I would almost guarantee they are built on the same manufacturing lines. Have you ridden the Tenere? Pretty much exact in many regards with the exception of the street accessories and front fairings.
@The3332 жыл бұрын
@@RRRRefuelRideRace No, I get that - it's a sports tourer - yes totally different in that regard. But as the owner of a T7, I am just remarking at the striking similarities from this review and getting a close up view of the current Tracer 700. It really is quite close to my T7 in many regards. Much more so than I expected to see. Go check out a T7 close up and I think you will agree. The performance numbers are almost exactly the same (obviously, same engine and probably similar gearing).
@The3332 жыл бұрын
@@RRRRefuelRideRace I think we are saying the same stuff! lol. I am not sure if the Tenere is a better bike (I have not ridden a Tracer), I do love my T7, but from this review the Tracer looks like a really great bike too. I guess my reaction was just a bit of surprise at how much like my T7 it seems to be. When he is on the Tracer, the view of the cockpit feels just like my T7. All good - both great bikes designed for different types of riding.
@mickleblade2 жыл бұрын
€116 for a Puig screen, but we shouldn't have to buy one. Steel braided lines? Depends on your riding. All the bike comparisons depend upon what you think is most important. Would you buy one? No. Would I? Yes, maybe, the price is right, the spec is right and I'm not impressed with the alternatives.
@lukaszjaskulski58182 жыл бұрын
It’s a budget bike for smaller sized riders.You get what you pay for.I would go for a V Strom 650
@martinwilkinson2344 Жыл бұрын
Great review and comparison chart is very useful. Looking at 2022 GT model which fixes the windscreen issue. Also I don't push it so the brakes will be fine for me I'm sure. Worth noting that for 2022, brakes are Yamaha branded so maybe they tweaked them as you suggested!
@cybilisation2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Let me ask what do you think about the dynamics compering with the NC 750 x (2021) which you tested a few weeks ago? I shortly tested both, and did not feel a huge difference until 100km/h. Yamaha seems a bit more agile. Both has the same price (Honda with dct). But Honda gives you more for your money. Which do you pick?
2 жыл бұрын
I am 180cm and found the Tracer 7 more comfy also. NC felt cramped. But NC was all the power I'd need.
@chrisw42152 жыл бұрын
I would take Yamaha over Honda in terms of the look, but choosing Honda, we have dct with traction control and storage under the tank for the same price. NO for Yamaha for me. NO traction control for that price is not acceptable
@kevinchan16632 жыл бұрын
Not a words compare to versys 650. Like the other videos u make. Thumb up. Any way
@Yamalover782 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 Nice one. I like Honda NC 750X better than the Yamaha Tracer 7
@HardcoreWeeaboo2 жыл бұрын
Why you like it more?
@cybilisation2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreWeeaboo i also prefer NC750x(2021) because they have the same price (with dct) and Honda gives more for your money (slippery clutch, driving modes, dct, lower fuel consumption, luggage comportament etc.) I found the same agility until 100-110 if you accelerate 0 to 100 km/h. I think the max.speed is higher for Yamaha.
@stephenprizeman66692 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review
@binleyhouse2 жыл бұрын
I wish manufactures made more sub 200kg bikes and a seat height of 30 inch, so weekend riders like me feel more confident
@Dave-sw2dm2 жыл бұрын
Wish we could get a tracer 7 gt in the states. Electronic cruise control would be nice as well. The tracer 9 is on my short list but I hate buying more bike than I need.
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I always wondered that too, why the Japanese OEMs don't offer the smaller bikes in the States. I think it's cause they don't think they'll sell in the quantities needed to make a profit. 🙄
@thurney43432 жыл бұрын
All that money spent and the windscreen is just for show? It's not even good looking, let alone functional. What gives? I'll say it again, for the money you shouldn't have to complain about these two things-brakes and windscreen. I guess they are using old versions of "mini-me" to test ride these bikes in the wind tunnel? Overall, it looks and sounds like a good ride! I took your advice on the MRA vario windscreen for my BMW F900...what a difference it makes going down the road! Nice upgrade and well worth the money! I just wish BMW could have found a way to put adjustable front forks on this baby, it has just about everything else! Cheers Scott!
@khalidibnwalidk35442 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, i am looking for a motorcycle that is not to heavy and with decent handling. 2 up most of the time. Doesn’t need lots of power. I was looking for a tracer 7 gt or v strom 650. Maybe the new tiger 660 sport or the nc750x. Which one would you recommend. I am coming from a super sport 1000cc. Learned the hard way that I don’t need that much power on the road. Especially for 2 up and the speed limits in the Netherlands looking for a good motorcycle.. budget would be around 10k. thanks
@ioandragulescu60632 жыл бұрын
pls review the v strom 650 pls pls pls :) It's the only one in that chart of yours that you didn't review.
@rogierw95392 жыл бұрын
It's a Nice looking bike with good specs and price. 😄 Only spec I do not like is the maximum added weight for passengers an luggage. Which is the lowest of all middle class allroads. Thats a problem for long rides(multiple days) with 2 Persons and luggage. 😶
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
The Tracer 9 has the same problem too. Seems that Yamaha does not understand that people are a little bigger in the West. 😁🤣
@TheVigilantStewards2 жыл бұрын
i wonder why bmws cut the f800st and gt
@paulwalker40912 жыл бұрын
How would you compare it to the Versys 650? The Yamaha seems more road/sport focused. We don’t get the tracer 7 in Canada yet so I can’t check it out in person. Seems like the screen is better on the Versys & maybe it is a little less cramped? How would you compare the suspension, brakes and fit & finish between the 2? Thanks! I expect the new Tiger 660 to trump them all.
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
The Versys 650! It's very hard to beat for value, durability, reliability, maintenance...etc. AND the Versys has a lot more leg room. Suspension and brakes are about the same. 👍
@paulwalker40912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply and keep the great reviews coming!
@Otterplus2 жыл бұрын
I had to scope out the thumbnail for a few seconds. I thought you had a BMW 900XR instead of the Yamaha
@Nordkapp652 жыл бұрын
Am in Spain with the ER6F and am feeling the finger pain of vibes, would dearly like to know what generation parallel twin to replace it with
@hfr_ford7552 жыл бұрын
If you can send some of these to the States, that would be great...
@brucekendall522 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@WiscTJK2 жыл бұрын
Another good review. Thanks. Wish this bike was available in USA.
@problemslayer35382 күн бұрын
This or the NC750x for touring
@MrWibbleman2 жыл бұрын
Got one of these as my first bike. Really like it but at 1.86cm tall the screen noisy when in up position. Not a surprise I guess. Will do for now.. otherwise really like the bike.
@thomasr.79752 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm thinking about buying one of these but the tight leg room might be a problem for long trips. For someone of your height isn't it uncomfortable to travel with this one ? thanks
@MrWibbleman2 жыл бұрын
It’s part of why I bought a tracer 9 after my first tracer 7. My knees were fine on the 7 but the 9 especially with the cruise control etc is a better touring bike for me. But the 7 was great and I did 7000km on it in less than a year and passed my test on it. Nice and light, plenty fast enough and with a top box very practical.
@realYoup11 күн бұрын
How does this compare to the ktm 790?
@raymorris9522 жыл бұрын
Needs some colour, to many bikes are all black and grey plastic!
@nickstevens31392 жыл бұрын
Matt grey, what are they thinking?
@mickleblade2 жыл бұрын
Scott, you breifly mentioned seat height, did you mean its too high for you? Or too low
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
It is a little cramped for me and I needed more leg room, so I'd need a higher seat if I were to buy it. 8:22
@mickleblade2 жыл бұрын
@@NothingToProve interesting, 'cos it has a 35mm higher seat than the Nc750x you tried recently
@chrishart85482 жыл бұрын
@@mickleblade I would imagine the nc750x has lower footpegs giving more room. It's not as simple as seat height.,
@beverleynorth4914 Жыл бұрын
Is it a concern that the Tracer does not have a slipper clutch
@NothingToProve Жыл бұрын
Considering that the MT07 got a slipper and this didn't and this is more expensive than the MT07. So, more money for less stuff. And this did not get the engine updates that the 2021 got either and yes, I noticed it. But when compared to the competition, this is doing very well, except the Triumph Tiger Sport 660 beats this for value...imho. ride safe, Scott
@henrikforsberg6832 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why they keep changing the model names, and why they have different names for the same bike in the us.. 🤪
@johnvaleriewelbers29952 жыл бұрын
🤓👍🏻😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 good stuff as always
@sinishasekulich19792 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott can you tell me what brand of bike pants you have ??
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Sure, those are Trilobite Parado jeans :)
@davidmallia628 Жыл бұрын
Good engineering, but on the cheap, uninspiring on looks. That tail does not look in place. No upside down forks. The kawa 650 looks amazingly more bike, in looks, paint, and components, in comparison.
@suchithkeats262 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a ninja 1000sx review
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Yea, so am I. Been trying to ride it for the last two summers! Something always happens to prevent me from getting my hands on the bike. The bike is "crashed" or sold or never comes in, logistics, sigh, oh well. 😢
@suchithkeats262 жыл бұрын
@@NothingToProve Will wait for your review anyway.
@suchithkeats262 жыл бұрын
@@NothingToProve looks like we have a new contender. Suzuki gsx s1000gt against the Ninja 1000sx
@dennisrkb Жыл бұрын
Tracer 7 or Tracer 9?
@NothingToProve Жыл бұрын
Depends on the person, new or experienced, looking for more power or happy with less.
@BlazinBlades2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the Tracer 7 has a Slipper clutch?
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Nope. :(
@BlazinBlades2 жыл бұрын
@@NothingToProve disapointing 🙁
@Theoriginalbubbafett9 ай бұрын
And still not in the US, 😢
@conguero72645 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s because the tracer 7 is made in France by Yamaha/MBK France and not in Japan.
@Ravalock2692 жыл бұрын
Will this be released in the U.S.?
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Well, this is the second gen and still nothing in the States...so probably not. Yamaha does not think that they can sell and make a profit in North America, which is probably true, the T9 does well, so they figure that the T7 will take sales away from the T9 and they don't want to compete against them selves 🙁
@problemslayer35384 ай бұрын
Scott did you fart at 11:05 ?
@veljkovic922 ай бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha. I think I hear it, too. 😃 Made me laugh so much. Thanks to both of you. 😃
@kevinchan16632 жыл бұрын
Buyer should go for versys or tracer 7 ?
@alexadrossotoglou14132 жыл бұрын
V strom 650
@kevinchan16632 жыл бұрын
@@alexadrossotoglou1413 vstorm front tire 19 ince. Hard to choose tire for on and off road. For road version should give 17 in
@kevinchan16632 жыл бұрын
@@alexadrossotoglou1413 vstorm should refresh the look
@timallison85602 жыл бұрын
why can't we have tracer 7 in the states. makes me so angry.
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Well, when I lived in the States for the first 40 years of my life I didn't know why OEMs did this either but now after living in Europe for the last 10 years, I've learned that smaller bikes or anything "smaller" does not sell well in the States. Americans have a reputation or attitude for "go big or go home" mentality and small capacity bikes and cars just don't sell well in the States. But I still do have this mentality too, BUT my last bike I bought (2 yrs ago) the BMW 900 XR, going from a KTM1290 Super Duke R, so I'm starting to change too or it could be that I'm over 50 now and power is no longer #1 on my list. take care, Scott
@korazon3spinado2 жыл бұрын
Is this bike available in the US?
@NothingToProve2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Blame Yamaha.
@korazon3spinado8 ай бұрын
Bummer
@razorsharp98502 жыл бұрын
You could place it in the F750GS range of BMW, both being a twin engine in the mid range of their sports tourer bikes. But the BMW would win in all segments. I wonder how you see that “competition”.
@ernieschatz37832 жыл бұрын
Except a big one. Reliabilty. You'd have to have somebody with a Yamaha tow you to the closest BMW dealer.
@razorsharp98502 жыл бұрын
@@ernieschatz3783 if that would happen, the service is actually a pick up😉
@stevecoaster23602 жыл бұрын
F750 - 30kg heavier & 2,400 euro more for top spec model. It doesn't win there
@razorsharp98502 жыл бұрын
@@stevecoaster2360 some brands are more expensive. But also get more, features that are real desirable when touring. Ok, the weight I agree, it’s much less on the Tracer7, but it’s also a small bike with the cons of less space, less suited for 2up, short wheelbase. In my opinion the Tracer 7 is the perfect starter on a budget commuter 1up bike that needs to carry some stuff in the panniers. But in case of a more experienced, more budget and longer distance touring and upgrade it really falls short.
@chrishart85482 жыл бұрын
@@stevecoaster2360 it's £8200 tracer vs £8600 f750gs in the UK and the 750 is 850cc and has rider modes and traction control. It is 224kg though that's not great.
@vageliskoios10622 жыл бұрын
Versys 650,vstrom 650,tiger 800 ,nc750x are rivals and in my opinion better all around bikes..
@tonnynijholt7090 Жыл бұрын
Euuh you don’t sound German at all 😮
@PNH6311 ай бұрын
Do you not realise the triumph tiger 660 exists. This is no comparison the tiger is far superior.
@NothingToProve11 ай бұрын
Umm...do you not realize the year that this video was made? LOL! It's ok, easy mistake to make. When I did this video, that bike did not exist as of yet. take care, Scott
@PNH6311 ай бұрын
@@NothingToProve my apologies 😋
@robshef71811 ай бұрын
@@PNH63 Not really dude...But now he did not tell you that he did a vid on the Tiger! So he has to apologize cuz He did a video on the Tiger. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNWCfN1ekr_TXX0.html