Great content 👏🏻

This propably was the best review I 've seen. Thanks alot for your honesty John. I really appreciate the scoring system. Gread Job!

As a young person who needs a reliable, quality built, good looking short commuter this review was the confirmation I needed. Absolutely in love with the tiger sport 660

You can adjust the dash brightness. You press and hold the dash function button before turning the ignition on. One way switches the odometer from mph to kmph and the other way changes the brightness

Again.... excellent review John! Hugely informative... Keep it up!

great videos, just what i was looking for.

Awesome content John, thanks for sharing your thoughts on these two bikes! One quick question, any particular reason you're keeping reliability out of your comparison? It's something I'm sure most of us consider, especially as you seem to be interested in putting a lot of KM on the next bike as opposed to just picking it up to "drive around town" or to go to the pub with your mates. Looking forward to your next video!

Amazing review and it made me decide between these 2 which one was the right one for me. Thank you for this.

Didnt know your channel, congratulations. Very good review. Just subscribed.

Excellent, detailed review.

First time watching this creators content. Well done Sir. New sub here.

i have a tracer 700 which it has by far the best engine but not a very good protection. i had many motorcycles and i can say one of the best overall was my suzuki vstrom 650 2013. but the truth is that the best vallue for money motorcycle and the one that i would buy if i had the money is the tracer 900. fantastic engine with 3 cylindres and no problems. regards from greece

Fantastic test, good job, Greetings from Poland🙃

Hi John, great content! A question for you. I also hate the turbulence and buffeting. Now I just sold my Yamaha fazer from 2010 and looking for a new bike which will not have that turbulence and buffeting. With a height of 1,85m which bikes would you think of could be good options? Considering most part of driving will be highway?

Excellent review

Very nice comparison, thanks. Are you or your wife considering new v strom 1000 or 650?

Awesome and informative review! Is the CFMOTO 800MT available in your country? It's a Chinese brand but I've been hearing good things about it. I'd love to see it compared in this category.

Verry informative series. Thx

Hi João. New here...didn't have the opportunity to watch full video but I will 😉 Recently had my tracer 900 for 86k and try the trident 660 as a possible replacement and it is not so far away as I was thinking. For me is a no brainer comparing to the tracer 7, for a little more you get a better bike in every way and is not so far away as tracer 9 (Standart)...in fact I think the trident is more close to the tracer 9 as the tracer 7. Of course, last decision is yours but my 2 cents on vote for trident 660 all the way ✌️

I had the Tracer 700 (2021) and I´m traveling a lot before I bought the MV Agusta Turismo Veloce. I can underline your result - the Tracer 7 is a very good multi tool with which you can do everything what has to be done on a motorbike. I also had the Tiger 600 on my list. But without a center stand touring and maintenance can be pain in the ass. Thanks for this detailed video with so many aspects. Helps people a lot to make their decision. Keep up the good work and stay healthy...

Excellent content, thank you!

As much as I love my Tracer 700 (2020 model), I absolutely had to get bar risers. With the stock setup, my back always started to protest after a little while. Also, I did not find the comfort seat (got the touring packet) that comfortable and went with the basic stock seat for a while. After a bit of fiddling, I put the heated seat cover from an older model onto the comfort seat base. Works great, never had that before. Also replaced the fancy touring hardcases against my boxy, 20 year old Givi hardcases, each 45 litres. Now it has really turned into a mile-munching machine.

Excelente review! Gostei bastante! Estou a ponderar voltar ao mundo das motas após 10 anos de paragem. Tenho na lista V strom 650, Tracer 7, versys 650, e talvez a Tiger. Com esta partilha fiquei mais esclarecido e talvez a Tracer seja uma boa opção para viajar tranquilamente e fiável. Muito obrigado. Fiz a subscrição do canal. Parabéns

Amigos de língua portuguesa, as legendas saem para a semana. fiquem atentos 💪👍 EDIT: Já temos legendas 😀

Olá João! Muito obrigado pela partilha. Eu estou a pensar em adquirir uma mota e as hipóteses que pensei desde o inicio foram a Tracer 7 e a Tiger 660, pelo que estes vídeos têm sido extremamente úteis, até porque aqui assisto a uma análise isenta às motas ao contrário do que se vê em muitos vídeos do KZfaq. Nas últimas semanas comecei a ler mais e a ver reviews da nova Kawasaki Versys 650. Podes partilhar a tua opinião sobre a mesma? Estás a pensar em testá-la também? Ou é uma mota que descartas logo à partida? Obrigado. Abraço!

Very good comparisons. I am literally waiting with my breath held for your next videos because in this moment i am searching exactly what are you searching. 😁 and till now i agree with the tracer. 1 more thing wich one do you think it s better inside big city trafic?? Waiting for your next vids

Enjoyed your content. I'm looking at the tiger sport 660 cause here in the US we dont get the tracer 7. 😥

i will follow this series as i am about to buy my first real bike above 125

Adoro os videos, estão a saudar-me na escolha de mota. E também gostei muito das botas, pode partilhar a marca e modelo? 🙏

Nice review. Try to put om your list Moto Guzzi V85TT.A great option in my opinion considering price/quality/confortable/autonomy. Good luck.

Everyone can give their opinion based on their criteria and needs which of the two is better, but for me the GP2 engine that the Yamaha Tracer has has no comparison. It is also a very logical, reliable and excellent quality motorcycle.

One of the best Tracer test, and l love my Tracer7

Each time I get on my 07' V-Strom dl650 I loose the idea of buying a new bike, thing just gives and gives with no end in sight, but I love the 700 Tracer, simply looks gorgeous

Super nice video and good comparison. Good explenation that made me buy the tracer 7 2 months ago. In the video you said the buffeting on the tracer came from wind over ypur knees. However, I bought the Puig touring screen and that completely solved the buffeting problem. I also bought the Shad 58x that made it possible to store two big helmets while parked, and reducing the topcase in size while riding. A supergood alternative to the standard sidecases who are too small. My fjr1300 cases have a bigger lid and then two helmets fit perfectly, but Yamaha only grants these sidecases to buy extra, not instead of the small ones. 😢 Heated grips from daytona, cheap and very good, and without a big button. Only a small integrated one in the rubber! Super.😊

The tracer has just received an update for this year. Have you seen it? The one you’re reviewing is already the previous year model and the new one has a bigger wind shield

a small extra screen on the Tracer 7 worked wonders for me, but it did need some adjustments.

Muito obrigado João pelo excelente conteúdo partilhado neste vídeo. Na sua opinião e para alguém para o lado do “pesadito” quais as configurações ideais da suspensão frontal ?

The reliability and the look of tracer is enough for me to choose

Gostei do seu conteúdo João. Ganhou mais um subscrito!

Belo review. A respeito da trepidação do capacete, foi o que senti quando experiênciei quando coloquei uma viseira na minha bandit. Cheguei à conclusão que é mais confortável sem a dita. Nunca pensei foi no ar que sobe pela zona das pernas... Boa dica 👍

The brakes are Sumitomo calipers, the same ones they fitted to the R6 back in the day. For some reason the discs are slightly smaller than the mt07. Another UK youtuber thought the pillion position of the tracer 7 was better than both the tiger 660 and tracer 9. I've done my research 'cos I'm booking a test ride on a Tracer 7 soon too!

Parabéns pelo comparativo, muito bom.Aqui no Brasil já temos a Tiger 660, mas até hoje a Yamaha não nos brindou com a Tracer 700. Uma pena, para os fans da marca.

hi there!this was the gt version?with the comfortable seat?

It's amazing, it's like many things, you can spend a small fortune but not necessarily be as good and sometimes worse.

Brightness on the screen can be adjusted. And the screen isn't TFT but LCD

Stumble upon to your channel when searching any Tracer 7 reference for my research of future R25 mod into sport touring one, good comparation too with the latest Tracer 9 comparison. But I found the regularity of publishing the video on this channel are lacking, so reserved for subscribe button for now.

Parabéns pelo vídeo, e pela fluência do teu inglês. Sempre fui um motociclista de viagens curtas, após 12 anos de interregno de motas, assente no pressuposto das viagens curtas, optei por uma MT 07, que adoro... Só que 12 anos depois estou diferente, agora apetece-me agarrar na mota e ir até ao fim do mundo, pelo que este mercado das Sport Adventure interessa-me. Aguardo com imensa expectativa uma review da Tracer 9, com algumas comparações com a Tracer 7.

Gostei do conteudo.. tambem estou na mesma situação. Os euros nao abundam para comprar a mota errada e este video esta muito bom. Esse inglês causa inveja a qualquer um!

Would the optional factory lower fairing on the tiger 660 help with the buffeting?

Hi John. I understand these videos are a bit old. I wonder if you continued the quest in finding the best touring moto for your needs. Also, haven’t you considered the Tiger 900s? In your plan you’ll be testing out more expensive and heavy bikes like the explorer, africa twin, multistrada, and even the bulky BMW GS12. Why not the Tiger 900 instead?

Gostava de perceber melhor como achas a suspensão da tracer 07 experimentei e odiei, sempre pensei que a tiger fosse melhor, que tens a dizer sobre isso

That Murphy's Law reference was so funny lol

When are you posting about tracer 9? I can t decide what to buy tracer 7 or tracer 9 and i am waiting for your post😁😁 it s a hard choice and i am looking for almost the same things like you do.. 😔😔 i am waiting for 1 month

I don't have any problems with turbulences with GT windshield on the Tracer. I'm 1.76, and perhaps the only annoyance is the side to side sway during windy weather, but that's inevitable. I think there is no point in scoring stand position, since you won't stand almost any time. A much more interesting score would be companion comfort.

Awesome video meu amigo. You’ve got a new subscriber. Hey I saw that someone suggested you to try the NC750X in the comments. Even if you are not interested I would love to see how you would rate it against all the other bikes you have chosen. Again great video, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

The Tiger 900 has one of the best screens that I've tried. But the Tracer 7 is a dynamically better bike than the rally pro. The main issue with the Tiger 900 is the T crank engine. I personally didn't find the vibes that bad but its a bit like a Harley where you can rev it out past peak torque but it's not pleasant. Which for me makes it a practical bike rather than a fun bike.

the 660 has more power and handling for hills, twisties. tracer hp, size is difficult ?

És bastante fluente em Inglês mas desapontou-me o facto de confundires "Breaks" com "Brakes". Anyway, boas reviews e espero que continues o bom trabalho.

Good video 👏👏👏👌

Great video. Obrigada

I'd love the Tracer 7. Unfortunately it's not available in the US.

Just went from a Tracer 900 to the 700, it never grew on me(loved the triple cylinder engine though). Never have "buffering" as with all bikes, I get rid of the screen... want a screen, buy a car(i sit behind a truck one all day). I had a metal replacement on the 900, still awaiting my 700 conversion. About to start filming a Tracer7 ADV build, but as no one want the brand new wheels and tyres, I'm just about to start using it(motorcyclists are weird people, unused wheels and Michelin Pilots, they'd rather punch out/renew the bearings,shot blast and paint then fit new tyres than bolt on brand news wheels to their old bike at more cost, than buy new)! Fitted 900GT electrics with C/C to my 900, going to miss that, but it is available,aftermarket, all the emissions stuff has bee junked already, Arrow downpipes, no cat and an open can will get the motor running the way it was designed(K+N filter etc). Biggest change coming is the XSR700 swingarm, by fitting the 55mm longer one, it just looks stupid, drag bike-esque. As it's for pottering around the Highlands of Scotland, and up cattle/sheep trails the short rear will be better for turning, etc

Boas se o capacete abana é porque está largo, estiveste a tomar medidas por uma má escolha de capacete

What bout fuel consumption? Im not sure that I've seen this information in the video. Thnk you

boa tarde sr João neves, seus video está excelente muito bem produzido, por favor coloque legenda em português, no por que nem toda gente saber inglês...

Make sure you test the Moto Guzzi V85TT. A really enjoyable travel bike.

Looks like John kept he`s VStrom 1000 coz we havent see any video since a while :P

At last. A real world non bs review. Friends tiger 9 was hot also, but the tracer 9 wasn’t, both triples so not sure how the Triumphs hotter ? . Looking at going down from the Tracer 9 to a 7, more relaxing for touring, 9 is like a caffeine shot. Shield on 9. Tried so many, no screen (summer) or a huge Puig touring for distance or cooler weather. Nothing in between worked, so guess it’s the same for the 7 and most adv styles ?

Is it a concern that the Tracer does not have a slipper clutch

Yamaha né pai e outro nível,trecer 700 😍😍🚀👏

Great comparison video, Waiting for the next one as I’m looking for either tracer 7 or 9 as my next purchase… 👍

how does it handle? Too wet for me to find out!!! Nice screwdriver though! REALLY?1

This is my dream bike. I'm hoping this will reach the shores of America. Unfortunately, I am 5'6'' in height, do you think I can get on with this bike?

Hello why dont you considerAprilia tuareg 660

You forgot build quality, my wife had an out of the showroom zero miles on the clock MT07 and we found the first rust on it after 3 weeks as the paint was as thin as a politicians promise. Triumph have far better build quality and much thicker paint which allows for those inevitable flying small stones.

I’m sorry but l could not find the Tracer9vs… video that you mention here 😊

Noticed you listed a GS in your list. If you can afford one then it will absolutely spoil you. Best bike I have ever ridden for long distance and still an absolute hoot to ride when you get to the twisty roads. I did have a tenere 700 until recently too and although I havent ridden the tracer 7 it has the same engine and it's an absolute peach! The point you made about buffeting gets my goat too... Sometimes the screens just make it so much worse. On my tenere I replaced the screen all together and it totally solved it. On my GS the stock screen was almost fine but I added a spoiler to it and now I sit in a bubble of total calm. I consider it one of those items that you are pretty much guaranteed to have to fix on most bikes and is something that would be so easy to fix from the factory.

I am 178cm, but have shorter legs and i manouvre with big bikes no problem. Never flipped ot and i ride or rode GSA, Africa Twin, Tracer 9, EXC, SXF..etc. It’s all about tehnique and knowledge, not about the strenght and leg size

I like the 3 cylinder Triumph

Very good review; great editing. But for my size, needs and likes, I bought the tiger 660. Congratulations on your beautiful wife.

I wish there was a sub-700cc sport tourer with shaft drive.

Riding a rebel500, buffeting could ruin my ride. Especially when at high speeds, windy, or in highway

1.Triumph Tiger 660 2.Kawasaki versys 650 3.Suzuki vstrom 650 4.Honda nc750x 5.Yamaha Tracer 700

What about the Kawasaki Versys 650

Tracer 7 gt is a perfect machine.

Breaks?

Good to hear from you, John. I agree with you about braided lines. The Triumph looks better out of these two. How about a Honda NC 750X DCT? Sounds unlikely but more low-down urgency than a Tracer 900GT, according to an English journalist whose video I watched this week. A bit heavier than these two, but it's all carried low down. Then there's the storage compartment in the dummy tank. Plus, it's easily the most economical. I like Jack's helmet.

You're missing the MotoGuzzi V85TT

I like it

Love the look of the Yamaha. But for 2k less you can get the Honda CB500X/NX500

For me, as a beginner, the complete lack of any sort of traction control is a big malus for the yamaha.

Hahah I test rode the Tracer 700 last week and had exactly the same when (trying to) activate the blinkers hahah, of course when I was just leaving the dealer 😂

we didn't get the tracer 7 in the states. Kind of a shame.

Better or not, i go for Triumph..

Haw much price

So, it has great suspension and is more comfortable than the Tiger...and for me a more characterful engine. I would go with Tracer 7.

Owned a tracer 7 for 6 months,biggest disappointment of all the bikes I owned... If you really want a Yamaha you have to go with the "bigger" models.I've owned 2 of the CP2 platform and it feels like a mass-produced piece of appliance... Triumphs are much more composed,a little bit more expensive but well worth the extra money!

love how you said in the intro 'this is my biker wife' as if you have different wives for different activities? :D

I'd pick the tracer 7.... if it was sold here in japan😢

Completely subjective, rode both bikes hated the tracer loved the triumph a much smoother ride. Two friends owned tracers, both had horrible engine problems almost from new.