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All Offerings Explained & Tierlisted | Dead by Daylight

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not Otzdarva

not Otzdarva

Күн бұрын

This video breaks down all of the current offerings in Dead by Daylight and provides a brief analysis of their strengths for both sides. Keep in mind that Moris are going to be reworked sometime in the near future.
0:00:00 Intro
0:01:31 BP Offerings, Black & White Wards
0:02:09 Map Offerings
0:03:21 Sacrificial Ward
0:04:26 Hatch Spawn
0:05:40 Luck Offerings
0:07:53 Oaks (Hook Spawns)
0:10:58 Mist Offerings
0:13:41 Basement Spawn
0:16:02 Memento Moris
0:18:43 Coins (Chest Spawns)
0:21:09 Shrouds (Survivor Spawns)
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@notOtzdarva
@notOtzdarva 7 ай бұрын
*SLIGHTLY UPDATED VERSION* : i.imgur.com/yZimdhM.jpg
@KiliGraphics
@KiliGraphics 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@medicgaming1200
@medicgaming1200 6 ай бұрын
Thank you papa Otz
@RaspberryTurtle
@RaspberryTurtle 2 ай бұрын
I would like it to be known that cyprus has helped me 4k instead of three k, i got a good end game on rpd and the last survivor had flipflop boil over power struggle unbreakable build. And i had no hooks nearby, but the mori let me kill her before she crawled out.
@khamuratal1173
@khamuratal1173 Жыл бұрын
I once realized that I had 50 RPD and the Game offerings on my Dredge, and decided to consume them all in one session of build testing. By the tenth West Wing RPD I felt like I was ritualistically flaying myself alive, really got me into the character of playing a formless mass of darkness, pain, and suffering.
@roasty-
@roasty- Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you sharing your self destructive escapades with us. I hear you, and I recognize the suffering you went through You'd be a great method actor for psychological affliction, but I would advise you to not try your luck with method acting Dredge's physical characteristics.
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 Жыл бұрын
I love to put all indoor map offerings when playing as killer, especially midwich
@mitchsz
@mitchsz Жыл бұрын
That's how I felt trying to do the new RPD achievement of opening the gate 20 times and escaping lmao
@firstpersonsnooter2519
@firstpersonsnooter2519 Жыл бұрын
This is the funniest thing I’ve read all day 😂😂😂
@XXXmarquise
@XXXmarquise Жыл бұрын
@@roasty- And I appreciate you for wearing socks today and tomorrow. Good burger
@jacobokay4132
@jacobokay4132 Жыл бұрын
I remember the old lighting offerings that could make the Trial darker or brighter. Man, they were cursed. 😂
@Davakl
@Davakl Жыл бұрын
Still have one for my Meg haha Mac Millan new moon was a nightmare
@lower47
@lower47 Жыл бұрын
what are those bot replies💀
@virusgnom3251
@virusgnom3251 Жыл бұрын
ahhh 2016 dbd with double shack window...those were dark times haha
@Rac00n
@Rac00n Жыл бұрын
I still have a lot of them on my trapper. I don't play much dbd nowadays though, I liked the old versions of the game more, most people didn't know what they were doing and that was part of the fun. (bring back window grab animations)
@Theragtagna
@Theragtagna Жыл бұрын
@@Rac00n window grab animations are still in the game.
@SkinnyNiceGuy
@SkinnyNiceGuy Жыл бұрын
Otz sounded shocked when he realized he was done explaining and it took less than 6 hours
@notOtzdarva
@notOtzdarva Жыл бұрын
I WAS lmfao
@kimberlyterasaki4843
@kimberlyterasaki4843 Жыл бұрын
Note about the BP offerings: the 25% bonus to every category is actually the next best offering after the bloody party streamers and escape cakes and other 100%+ offerings. That’s because they cost the same as the other yellow / green offerings but can give you as many as 10k additional BP if you max out (which is not very easy given the new BP cap but still). Also for killers, the only way to get max BP thanks to the higher cap is to hook them in the endgame to get the late hook bonus or to mori people on death hook (which I think gives you 300 more points than hooking them).
@MythicTF2
@MythicTF2 Жыл бұрын
I think the math works out and it's right but, in practice you'll always get about the same from either on average. I personally think +100% are better on survivor and +25% are better on killer. For example: I'm on survivor, I get 5k points in each category. With the +100% category, I get an additional 5k. With the +25% to all categories, I also get an additional 5k. Example 2: I get 2k in Altruism, 4k in objectives, 6k in survival, 8k in boldness. +100% to one: Anywhere from additional 2k to additional 8k (Average being 5k) +25% in all: Additional 5k (the average of all the categories) So, with that being said, I think the category +100% bonuses are SLIGHTLY better since they have a higher chance of getting more despite it still generally being average. But, if you know you're good at looping, you can specifically bring in boldness and gain probably more than you would on average with that +25%, especially if you end up spending most of the game in chase. The math works out the exact same for killer but killer can generally fill multiple categories at the same time so the +25% becomes slightly better for killer since you're more likely to gain a high average among categories rather than 1 much higher category.
@Krycko
@Krycko Жыл бұрын
the 25% extra en evry category was 15% in evry category back in the days i beleave, fun fact
@rileysullivan4123
@rileysullivan4123 Жыл бұрын
Anniversary Cakes > Party Streamers > Escape Cake/Survivor Pudding > Bound Envelope > 100% BP Per Category > Hollow Shell/Sealed Envelope > 75% BP Per Category > 50% BP Per Category
@kimberlyterasaki4843
@kimberlyterasaki4843 Жыл бұрын
@@rileysullivan4123 Personally, I think the Sealed Envelope/Hollow Shell is better than the 100% BP per category because it costs less but that's a personal preference. You get about the same benefit either way.
@rileysullivan4123
@rileysullivan4123 Жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyterasaki4843 it also depends on the category. Because some categories are really easy to max out or get high value in, while the Survival category is virtually impossible. You make a valid point as well. The Sealed Envelope/Hollow Shell are definitely easier to do well with, but I think if you actively pay attention to which category you got extra 100% in, then the value will usually be better.
@Kirblazethefirst
@Kirblazethefirst Жыл бұрын
Hey not otz, we have discovered a lack of 10 hours videos, like, come on, surely you can sit, analyse and talk for hours upon hours with no problems, yes?
@marcellofp7465
@marcellofp7465 Жыл бұрын
He can’t tho If he was the famous youtuber Otzdarva then I think he could
@voidlessend3427
@voidlessend3427 Жыл бұрын
@@marcellofp7465 Umm, he’s being sarcastic, obviously 🤓
@vozhdenko932
@vozhdenko932 Жыл бұрын
@@marcellofp7465 yeah, shame that this guy is not Otzdarva...
@Sorex_Tkt
@Sorex_Tkt Жыл бұрын
@@voidlessend3427 Haha sARcAsM
@v1p3r62
@v1p3r62 Жыл бұрын
@@voidlessend3427 so is Marcello lol
@kapkant6197
@kapkant6197 Жыл бұрын
Otz didn't address the fact that the Bloody Party Streamers up the chances of the Killer tunneling you all out in 2 mins or the Sacrificial Ward guaranteeing that none of the Survivors brought a map offering
@inmate92
@inmate92 Жыл бұрын
Yeah true actually, most BPS killers I have had in the past few weeks always did that. I always thought they act like it's a "compensation".
@NeptuniumNecromancy
@NeptuniumNecromancy Жыл бұрын
Man, personally I always use the streamers whenever I wanna be nice to the survivors and give everybody some more BP. I hope I’m not the only one so I don’t give any bad impressions.
@Archimedes.5000
@Archimedes.5000 Жыл бұрын
@@NeptuniumNecromancy I'm pretty sure he means surviviors bringing BPS, not killer
@zandromex8985
@zandromex8985 Жыл бұрын
People actually go out of their way to kill survivors early so they don't get blood points with bps? I never would've thought that happened, what a scummy think to do honestly, why would someone care so much? When I bring bps I bring them to get bonus blood points and I like that I'm helping the survivors as well. Other than that, I just play the match normally.
@neil2451
@neil2451 11 ай бұрын
@@inmate92 damn that's some incredible mental gymnastics
@HeisenbergTheFirst
@HeisenbergTheFirst Жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting mist offerings are a thing until not Otz reminds me and then I eventually forget again.
@wbnbn9670
@wbnbn9670 Жыл бұрын
@Thank me later 🅥 Link to the full vid that explains everything kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrenZ9pqvM28k4U.html
@oranbluethorn3956
@oranbluethorn3956 Жыл бұрын
Ya know, with the mist offerings, i always thought it was the other way around for Stealth Killers. Characters like Michael, Ghostface, Pig, Wraith. Being able to put a nice, large chunk of doubt into a survivors mind as to if they saw you or not because of the mist across the map, leading to great sneak attacks for killers...but damn, watching that side by side comparison you put up of killer sight vs survivor sight...yea that is just horrible for the killer. Thank you for alerting people like me to how detrimental even to said stealth killers this can be
@smallkidneyjoe4046
@smallkidneyjoe4046 Жыл бұрын
once i played against a pig on eyrie with a purple reagent and it was very very hard to see her sneaking up on us
@Draco-9158
@Draco-9158 Жыл бұрын
It's not a common occurrence, but sometimes the fog will hide traps as Trapper/Hag. I've had it happen a few times both playing as and against them. Overall though they do very little for killer
@suspecm6316
@suspecm6316 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when the fog is closer to the floor, survivors' vision being higher up than the tallest killer is a deal breaker.
@itzastro_0352
@itzastro_0352 Жыл бұрын
Another thing with the green and ebony moris, if you have a team that bodyblocks hooks and such, killing the survivor on the ground can be nice and can get rid of the risk of them wiggling out due to bodyblocks!
@Cusastacks
@Cusastacks Жыл бұрын
The majority of these offerings are a product of their time. It would be really interesting if they were changed to have more of an impact in the modern game.
@ebinmenes1698
@ebinmenes1698 Жыл бұрын
there is a bug in the game that lets you fast vault windows and pallets without making noise even without quicknquiet. they should make this a feature that is bound to luck like %4 chance of not making noise
@ShaadeGaming
@ShaadeGaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The offerings are fine its just alot of them seem to be so bad. Like 1% luck i rather just use BP offering. It would be nice with a rework that strategically make them worth playing. maybe add synergy to other offerings somehow. Ik its kinda like that today but even more. Not stronger cuz would be strong to have offering competing with a perk, but something that makes me wanna bring a cool offering thats not a map.
@dodang_9147
@dodang_9147 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaadeGaming Salty lips with 2 up the ante+Slippery meat on 4 players is most powerful offering In the entire game. with just two luck offering, its 100% chance to escape the hook. With coldwind farming offering and 2 of these luck offerings with dedicate build, you can almost play the game on ultra-easy mode for survivor with swf. the offering system is designed for swf to abuse it and its pretty useless for soloq. for soloq, white ward and bloodpoint farming are S-tier because you can save powerful purple med-kits with infinity healing and bloodpoints allow you to spam instant heal med-kits. Its same for killer. black wards allow you to spam game-changing add-on's like double recharge nurse or mother daughter ring spirit while bp offering also allow you to get more bp for each killers best respective add-on's. so I would say all BP offerings, black/white ward and luck offering/map offering are S-tier while the rest offering are worthless fillers.
@undertaker2766
@undertaker2766 Жыл бұрын
And it would force not otz to do a new video haha
@Samookely
@Samookely Жыл бұрын
it’d also be interesting to see brand new offerings that arent just map offerings
@gmbp193
@gmbp193 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean the White Ward has no effect on the match? It's known to greatly increase the chances that the killer is running Franklin's Demise
@nickpolatas8433
@nickpolatas8433 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of map offerings working in reverse instead, so instead of greatly increasing the chance to go to a map, you greatly decrease the chance to go to these maps? I feel like it would decrease the annoyance of being sent to specific maps from either side that are stronger
@NovaNova11.
@NovaNova11. Жыл бұрын
basically sacrificial ward
@jackmatutum7747
@jackmatutum7747 Жыл бұрын
@@NovaNova11. read the comment lol
@Alex-qr8nw
@Alex-qr8nw Жыл бұрын
I think that'd be a lot more fun
@NovaNova11.
@NovaNova11. Жыл бұрын
@@jackmatutum7747 read my comment lol
@jackmatutum7747
@jackmatutum7747 Жыл бұрын
@@NovaNova11. if the changes to map offerings he mentioned were to be implemented, sacrificial wards would only make it so that all maps have the default equal chances
@a.pigeon
@a.pigeon Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing DBD like 4 months ago but I still watch Otz because he's so enjoyable and amazing at explaining things
@pat1275
@pat1275 Жыл бұрын
Otz really should be paid for this by Behaviour. I stopped playing for years but I stayed up to date with Otz, so I just hopped back in as if I never left
@jinsoulfish9105
@jinsoulfish9105 Жыл бұрын
bro you should just move on to a different game altogether
@subjectdelta7210
@subjectdelta7210 Жыл бұрын
i disagree about the party streamers having no impact. bringing one or two with a friend might increase the odds of someone who would normally dc to stay if they also have a bp offering
@christiano10ronaldo
@christiano10ronaldo Жыл бұрын
If they dont forget about the offering as soon as they load in, like I do most of time.
@CGTuTsol
@CGTuTsol Жыл бұрын
I know they have draw backs, but I'll never understand how the hatch offerings have (atleast for the 4.5-5 years I've played) remained common. In the modern game, depending on the gate split, they can heavily decide whether the last survivor lives or dies. And then back before the hatch/key rework they where almost guaranteed to allow multiple escapes. It's just weird that that amount of sway is considered to be on the same tier as the lower end fog offerings.
@ebinmenes1698
@ebinmenes1698 Жыл бұрын
last survivor is irrelevant though
@chanceplace6057
@chanceplace6057 Жыл бұрын
The hatch offering have not even existed for that long lol, I belive they were introduced 2-3 years ago
@CGTuTsol
@CGTuTsol Жыл бұрын
@@chanceplace6057 You're right. The covid year kind of throws off my sense of time. But it's more so the idea that they are common and can dictate the flow of the ge that you tend to get on every bloodweb.
@CGTuTsol
@CGTuTsol Жыл бұрын
@@ebinmenes1698 I do agree with that, but when I was writing that I had an epiphany and don't think I got it across clearly. It does not matter when you're getting the 1k or 4k, but it appears for the last survivor which can keep you from getting the 2k or 3k. So in those cases (mainly preventing the 3k) I think it is relevant to the atleast MRM side. But yeah, on the grand scale it is irrelevant. I'm just lost at how aren't at uncommon rarity and you can get them on pretty much every bloodweb level.
@christiano10ronaldo
@christiano10ronaldo Жыл бұрын
Yes they should increase the rarity of many offerings now that everything is so much cheaper. Hatch offering before the hatch rework was just ridiculous, one key and you have a 3 man out at 1 gen left guaranteed. Don't know what they were thinking back then. Now it's not that much of an issue since hatch escape doesn't count towards the mmr and spawns only with 1 survivor left.
@vrmn8tr
@vrmn8tr Жыл бұрын
I disagree completely with the "No Impact" on the "save add-ons" and "save item" offerings. their uses cause psychological warfare. When you see the "save add-ons" as survivor you know it's some infinite myers, some busted nurse/blight or some iri-huntress or iri-doctor. When you see the "save item" as killer you know it's some busted tool-box / medkit
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 Жыл бұрын
The problem is "psychological warfare" isn't very concrete. I go into every match already fearing every Medkit and Toolbox. And if that Myers took longer to T3 as usual? My friends and I are already taking locker grabs over being Tombstoned. Ironically I never see White Wards used for anything genuinely scary. I only see them used on Purple Beamers cause Flashie users play half expecting to get tunneled out for their acts against the Killer lmao.
@vrmn8tr
@vrmn8tr Жыл бұрын
@@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 The only use i've given to white wards tbh is to do some challenge like with Alex's Toolbox + addons sabo 12 hooks or bring an iri map with range to locate totems more quickly.
@chanceplace6057
@chanceplace6057 Жыл бұрын
@@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 Us in the beamer gang use white wards to maximize our purple flashlights and ad-ons so we can reliably use them every single match. Atleast for me I have my fun by going around and flashlight saving so I want to use them as much as possible. We also are aware that we're not playing efficiently doing this and as you said are likely to die for our sins.
@greggparrott256
@greggparrott256 Жыл бұрын
Black ward myers, hits tier 2 so its not scratched mirror - all the survivors will dive into lockers to avoid a tombstone that you dont need to actually bring.
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 Жыл бұрын
@@greggparrott256 That does not make much sense. If it's a Tier 2 Myers why would we jump into a locker? We only do so upon a Tier 3 Proc and we all know when that happens if it happens.
@lookb4Uleep
@lookb4Uleep Жыл бұрын
I once accidentally countered a four stack by using the shroud of separation on a whim playing as doctor because they were planning on playing a wacky sort of meme build to run circles around me and then because they didn't know where they were on the map because they've never been there before, two of the survivors were wandering around aimlessly trying to find a single generator. I completely cleaned their clocks, ended that level with a short cat and mouse game with the last survivor who was jumping from locker to locker. Trying to stay out of sight so they could finish the last generator. I don't know the name of the map but it was built like a maze with a lot of narrow corridors and weird rooms with lots of staircases and cat walks and drops. And I didn't really know where I was going but I followed the crows and used my power to kind of track people down as much as I could with my equally memey and stupid impossible skill check build. They were very nice after the round was over. They gave me some kudos for managing to win even though none of us had any idea what we were doing on that map and for playing a dumb kind of goofy character like the doctor. The only fun, decent game of dead by daylight I think I've ever played my life.
@13Kaderade
@13Kaderade Жыл бұрын
@not Otzdarva I had one game where a random bringing a white ward killed my friend. Let me explain: We were vs a freddy, and this was before any hatch changes. I got tunnelled out pretty early (not complianing, valid tactic and all) and I was in chat with my 1 SWF. Looking around between them and the 2 randoms, i noticed one had a key, so I called it out to my swf that, hey, that nea has a key. After a little while, the nea gets hooked on the corner hook of shack, and dies because my friend couldn't get to them, but by this point hatch had spawned since there were 2 gens left and 2 survivors. I noticed it through nea's POV on hook, so i told her "Hey, use nea's key on the hatch right behind her death hook" My friend runs to the hook while being chased, and loops around the shack like 3 times hoping to walk across the key and pick it up, but it never shows, she's like "YOU LIED THERE'S NO KEY" and we're both just complete confusion. My friend gets caught, hooked, and dies. In the endgame i show her that yes, Nea did have a key, and we notice the white ward. SHE TOOK THE KEY WITH HER WHEN SHE DIED SO MY FRIEND WAS UNABLE TO PICK IT UP AND USE IT. And that's the story of how a white ward objectively, directly caused the death of my swf, so it DOES have at least ONE in game effect.
@notOtzdarva
@notOtzdarva Жыл бұрын
Hahah that is true, good point. 😅
@origin1026
@origin1026 Жыл бұрын
otz, your commitment to this game and its community to make it more digestible is formidable to say the least. i can say you really got me past that initial dbd learning curve a few years ago and its become my favorite game since :) thanks again otzy
@YoungKrenko
@YoungKrenko Жыл бұрын
Otz! One very minor thing you left out of this video that I haven't seen in the comments: Pinhead loves Shroud of Separation! Combined with Lethal Pursuer, you can use it to find your box quickly!
@christiano10ronaldo
@christiano10ronaldo Жыл бұрын
Quickly? Then everybody is all over the place, how will you know where it is faster?
@YoungKrenko
@YoungKrenko Жыл бұрын
@@christiano10ronaldo Based on where they spawn you can calculate where the box is. The box will not spawn near any of them, so if they're spread out it reduces the area where the box can appear.
@natehertel9612
@natehertel9612 Жыл бұрын
The brown remove mist offering is useful for console players who are tired of lagging. Mist offerings can single handedly be the difference between your game freezing for half a second in chase and having stable gameplay.
@WhiteBorderMTG
@WhiteBorderMTG Жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is if I see a group of survivors with the icon that means they're not on steam I should bring +75% mist?
@nottherealshault5899
@nottherealshault5899 Жыл бұрын
Best intro yet, Otz truly is an inter-generational man of the people.
@galactichasyoutube775
@galactichasyoutube775 Жыл бұрын
Fr fr on god no cap
@altaccount9101
@altaccount9101 Жыл бұрын
5:25 I also think the shack one is stronger because there's no variable. The hatch always spawns outside, on the side with a boarded up window. There's some main building tiles with weird hatch spawns where the hatch can spawn outside or in a similarly weird place.
@pissman82
@pissman82 Жыл бұрын
The hatch on eyrie of crows spawns inside shack.
@altaccount9101
@altaccount9101 Жыл бұрын
@@pissman82 here I thought I had a fully comprehensive "Why eyrie sucks" list. I guess there's always more with that map.
@DustTheOtter
@DustTheOtter Жыл бұрын
Hatch can spawn inside on Eyrie of Crows and Garden of Joy.
@Cabbage1337
@Cabbage1337 Жыл бұрын
One thing of note about Main Building offerings; some of them actually have set spawn locations for the Hatch around said Main Building. I haven’t tested all maps but for Haddonfield it will always spawn somewhere in the back yard type area of the Myers’ house, and for Sanctum of Wrath it will spawn just slightly off from the small staircase, usually at the edge of the statue perimeter
@PhilipMcCrotch
@PhilipMcCrotch Жыл бұрын
I challenge Otz to complete the All Killer’s Adept Challenge. Getting a merciless with every killer using their own perks in a row without losing seems like something only he could do
@dwcyrusm.4127
@dwcyrusm.4127 Жыл бұрын
Ooo that would be cool to see! Maybe one day if he has time. Seems like a fun idea. He could be nice and allow himself addons this time as well
@razorthewolf18
@razorthewolf18 Жыл бұрын
Whenever we get a new friend trying out killer in KYFs, I’ll bring the shroud of binding and a firecracker. When we load in I instantly toss the firecracker and cause mayhem
@dovasvariakojis6934
@dovasvariakojis6934 Жыл бұрын
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
@janinecat1865
@janinecat1865 Жыл бұрын
Not a secret, but the mist makes cloaked wraith harder to spot on open maps.
@UltimatumDemon
@UltimatumDemon Жыл бұрын
The Black Ward & White Ward tells you that the killer or survivor is bringing the big guns. So I wouldn't say they belong in No Impact.
@admitlosing3926
@admitlosing3926 Жыл бұрын
Ghost face does well w mist offering especially on open maps like Ormond or foresakenoneyard where you can't really creep in too many instances, can also conceal traps from hag and trapper
@Mohamedalielmomo
@Mohamedalielmomo Жыл бұрын
"If they have Flip-flop, or there is no hook available... errr... or your back hurts..." Ok that one got me really good 😄
@teddybear1211
@teddybear1211 Жыл бұрын
I find that if I use vigos shroud then I actually get found faster, since you get spawned directly across the map from the killer (about majority of the time.. or at least for me) they usually head straight towards me unless they’re interrupted by another survivor. Meaning, I usually bring it if I want to get chased (since 90% of the time I am anyways) and I can waste the killers time as much as possible :D
@mudstick
@mudstick Жыл бұрын
id complain about otz encouraging the use of map offerings by listing them as the best if i didnt already get sent to ormond or eyrie every other match
@notOtzdarva
@notOtzdarva Жыл бұрын
Welp.
@cmdrlawliet3552
@cmdrlawliet3552 Жыл бұрын
On GOD, this is one of the things I feel the need to complain about the most nowadays, because for some reason, every other game I'm being sent to some stupid survivor-sided map. "Oh, just use the sacrificial ward." BRO I DON'T HAVE ANY LEFT! I USED THEM ALL! "Oh, just bring your own offering." Yeah, and stoop to their level of exploiting this game's awful map balance while only having a 50/50 of it going my way? Why not just bring a map offering for the strongest killer maps every game then? It goes back to the same argument Otz made recently about perks and items on Survivors and what Killers have to do to keep up, it's insanity. Every map since Dead Dawg has just gotten worse and worse and worse and worse. RPD is *better* after the rework, but it's still one of the least-fun maps in the game in my opinion.
@jackmatutum7747
@jackmatutum7747 Жыл бұрын
Me when I play Trapper
@christiano10ronaldo
@christiano10ronaldo Жыл бұрын
What we need now is Otz showing us a match against his friends who bring eyrie map, 75% mist, biggest hook separation offering and basement in shack offerings and play as Trapper without corrupt. Will be a fun match.
@quelquunparla824
@quelquunparla824 Жыл бұрын
Warning: the information contained this tier list may vary slightly depending on your skill level. For me, +75% mist in eyrie of crows turns every killer into a stealth killer :D
@christiano10ronaldo
@christiano10ronaldo Жыл бұрын
Unless you're playing Nemesis, that guy is higher than the Main Building, you can't not see that bald head from 10 kilometers away
@uwuhealingyou
@uwuhealingyou Жыл бұрын
Just got covid and otz comes through as usual
@notOtzdarva
@notOtzdarva Жыл бұрын
Get well my friend!
@mmfreshmeat2860
@mmfreshmeat2860 Жыл бұрын
I like when my eyelids feel heavy when im ill, but thats because it helps me sleep. Thats where the eye pain comes in and ruins it, which is exactly what symptom i had when i had Covid.
@cplpuddingpop
@cplpuddingpop Жыл бұрын
A fairly small thing: if I remember correctly, the killer map offering is weighted double that of a survivor's. So if both a killer and survivor bring an offering, it's 2/3 to the killer, 1/3 to the survivor. If 2 survivors bring one, 1/4 to the first, 1/4 to the second, and 2/4 to the killer, and so on.
@adwenda
@adwenda Жыл бұрын
Otz: says that the luck offering giving you a higher chance of getting a second addon upon finding an item with ace in the hole wouldn't be something anyone really cares about Me, a professional Plunderers Instinct + Ace in the Hole + Appraisal build user who didn't know this: I beg your pardon?
@poissonsumac7922
@poissonsumac7922 Жыл бұрын
Wait, does it really synergize with that!? :0
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 Жыл бұрын
Same, I'm gonna start using up the ante with it now
@adwenda
@adwenda Жыл бұрын
@@poissonsumac7922 I am as surprised as you. At least he said it would do that 5:50
@poissonsumac7922
@poissonsumac7922 Жыл бұрын
@@adwenda The wiki says it doesn't affect the rarity of items in chests, but it's silent about whether it synergizes with Ace in the Hole
@adwenda
@adwenda Жыл бұрын
@@poissonsumac7922 Hmm so the only way to find out for oneselve if it works is to play a few games with and without luck offerings, but I think it's true cuz otherwise otz probably wouldnt have brought it up
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography Жыл бұрын
They removed luck having any benefit to drops, it's only hook escapes chance and it works out to around 52% chance per attempt if you stack all 4 offerings and 4 ace perks.
@Hydrodictyon
@Hydrodictyon Жыл бұрын
One thing that made me go nuts is where you have placed Swamp and Crotus Prenn offerings. Because BOTH offerings send you to either a survivor-sided or heavily survivor-sided maps. Swamp especially hurts certain killers (Plague, Artist as most infamous examples) as well as almost any build that includes hexes. And don’t forget that swamp on any map has a strong main + pier, which is more than any other map could have dreamt of. Crotus, on the other hand, features two of the largest maps in the game as well as two of the most busted main buildings you could ever find, especially Disturbed Ward, and is a nightmare offering to see as almost any killer.
@bobthebox2993
@bobthebox2993 Жыл бұрын
The Cypress Mori is my favorite offering to bring, because it feels like a little reward for playing a good match, when you get to use it.
@supertacoelite5062
@supertacoelite5062 Жыл бұрын
Hatch offering on survivors doing adept is by far the best way to get survivor adepts solo que. If you find your team is losing in your adept game, you can just camp it out, hide in lockers and go to the hatch immediately and get your adept achievement since survivor adepts don't require you to escape through the exit gates (which they should imo)
@Hayonhead
@Hayonhead Жыл бұрын
I loved the spite in the chat whenever every survivor brought Cakes for 105%+ BP and the killer casually took Mori. During the event itself.
@WIGEEMAN99
@WIGEEMAN99 Жыл бұрын
You could argue that in the isolated instance of a single game, the white/black ward offerings are bad. This is because they tell the opposing side that you have something powerful, that is worth saving. This could make them more wary of strong items/addons you could have and behave differently as a result. E.g. survivors see a black ward and it's a clown, so they do everything in their power to not be hit directly with a bottle, even before the addon is revealed.
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 Жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying. But ideally you should always play expecting the worse. Like if I play Killer and see a toolbox, I'm not gonna assume it's just a boring brown toolbox with no add-ons that they brought for a Toolbox Archive. My friends and I assume the worst as Survivor too. If that Myers took longer than usual to hit Tier 3? We're already playing out of fear of Tombstone. Basically always go into games expecting the worst sweat. You'll either be right to do so or pleasently surprised.
@WIGEEMAN99
@WIGEEMAN99 Жыл бұрын
@@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 Keyword - ideally. Most people don't play this way. The offering essentially confirms it as a necessity and can thus work against you.
@thedoomslayer5863
@thedoomslayer5863 Жыл бұрын
Not really no. If I bring mother daughter ring spirit, compound 31 alch ring blight, I don't care if you know or not I'm probably still going to 4k you and there's little you can do besides pray you get a heavily survivor sided map Some addons are so powerful they don't give a single shit if you know or not Or even tombstone Myers. Sure fo waste time hiding in a locker I'll just wait till I catch you no where near one and pop it then and play normally until then. If u always hang by a locker that's a free hook and I can threaten the rescuer with tombstone On a killer with good addons then bringing their absolute best is not something the survivors control it's the killer. He doesn't care whether you know or not even if it caused you to play sweatier so is killer that's why he brought it.
@WIGEEMAN99
@WIGEEMAN99 Жыл бұрын
@@haiz768 Of course. But the "so" is "so the offering should be ranked in the bad tier, not the useless one".
@mohamedattia5857
@mohamedattia5857 Жыл бұрын
Great upload
@Bodyknock
@Bodyknock Жыл бұрын
Quick note that the Yellow Mori is becoming part of the base kit later this year according to the dev roadmap. So eventually that offering will be obsolete.
@Nate_Doggin
@Nate_Doggin Жыл бұрын
The intro was a master peice “Hey it’s otz On god” lol
@TheJacyn313
@TheJacyn313 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact; moris also enable the shroud offerings by default. If the killer brings any mori all 4 survivors will spawn in close proximity to one another. Typically in teams of two but with the e-bone mori all 5 can spawn together.
@niecomartinez2148
@niecomartinez2148 Жыл бұрын
Last night on one of the corn maps I kept seeing big clouds or mist in the corn and thought it was crouching survivors.
@dreggan
@dreggan Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the content Otz - but I have to say this looks very different if you are a beginner in solo que vs a SWF that has being playing for a while. I would always reccomend add ons that increase your bloodpoints over anything else, you really need them when your starting out. Also add ons that benefit others like streamers are great, but remember that they may incentivise sweating from the other players, including the Killer. When your playing solo, the luck ones are next to useless and the dark mist ones are easily mitigated by killer perks. Everytime I have seen a survivor bring one its backfired.
@dardade3277
@dardade3277 Жыл бұрын
I have noticed some matches when the Killer brought a green hook offering (-2.5m apart) and a survivor brought one purple hook offering (+1m apart) and the hooks seemed to spawn VERY far apart as seen by Saboteur with significant hook dead zones after a survivor got sacrificed. HOWEVER this was on Midwich, so while this could have very easily been Just Midwich Things, it might be something worth investigating (might be something along the lines of the survivor's offering has a hidden "-1 hooks total in the match" while killer offering guarantees nothing, so all the hooks just got clustered on one side of the map and created a hook deadzone elsewhere. hard to tell, and it isn't really likely to happen routinely in matches since it depends on the killer and survivors both bringing specific addons).
@fortherng3847
@fortherng3847 Жыл бұрын
Midwich has this thing where hooks on different floors have the same distance between them as hooks on the same floor (it's probably computed as a position difference between the hook bases or some shit instead of the shortest path between hooks). This means that if one side of the bottom floor has hooks fairly close by, the top floor is practically a deadzone and vice versa. So the hook offerings probably worked as intended; it's literally Just Midwich Things like you said.
@nicky7458
@nicky7458 Жыл бұрын
The best part of this video is Sheva in the background. She's such an underrated character I love her 😭
@F3rdek
@F3rdek Жыл бұрын
White wards impact the trial ! If a survivor brings it I can't steal their item when they die :( wait what who said that?
@prizonier2
@prizonier2 Жыл бұрын
I like using coins with plunderer and streetwise. I usually bring a toolbox in the game when I play like this, so after i deplete the toolbox first, I search for a chest and get another item, if it's another toolbox, I use it and repeat, if it's a medkit I keep it in case I need it and if it's a key or map I'll either just do gens or go for another chest if I have one close.
@ltcolrayquaza
@ltcolrayquaza Жыл бұрын
Shroud of Binding is stuff i use on my "kill my teammates build" bond to find teammates, pebble to lure the killer to teammates, red herring to lure killer to teammate's gens, left behind to find the hatch after the team has died.
@FeelinLikeIt
@FeelinLikeIt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another well informed tierlist, Otz. Hope you have had a nice day.
@jacobtelford3484
@jacobtelford3484 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I have a rebuttal, and I think it's quite solid with my own testing of Dredge - whom I love to play as. 11:40 I happen to love the 75% extra fog on Dredge, who is made of fog and blends in - then also has survivors highlighted in bright white during nightfall - then I bring my trusty nightfall add ons Fallen Shingle + 15% always added on - Malthinker's Skull + 66% if a survivor is injured and have my nightfall activate in 16 seconds immediately after it has ended (Just a small break in a locker to recharge your G-fuel gaming chair) - It's just brutal on most maps regardless of their resources. Dredge is 100% an exception to this circumstance. 1 injured survivor (181%) 23.677979 seconds of Locker time if no hit = Y Current seconds hit value = 1.5769534 x 1 = 1.5769534 22.101025 seconds of Locker time if you got the hit(s) 4 injured survivors (181%) 16.574585 seconds of Locker time if no hits = Y Current seconds hit value = 1.10386736 x 4 = 4.41546944 12.159116 seconds of Locker time if you got the hit(s)
@Chrys0lis
@Chrys0lis Жыл бұрын
You forgot to bring up the fact that basement offerings can heavily manipulate rng since hooks spawn further from basements which messes with what fillers spawn. This is very noticeable on maps like suffocation pit where you will notice that the top side of the map will seem "dead" with a higher chance of hill hooks etc.
@spencervoth5057
@spencervoth5057 Жыл бұрын
Although the black ward and white ward technically have no impact, I will say that whenever a killer or survivor plays one I usually assume they're bringing strong addons and/or items. For example, if I see a Myers bringing a black ward I immediately suspect infinite tier 3, tombstone, or even both. This is a bit more difficult to do against survivors who play a white ward since you don't necessarily know who played it, but you can at the very least assume that at least one of them are bringing something super strong. So while they don't do anything in the game itself they can often be an indicator of strong items and thus could give the other team an advantage in figuring out exactly what the person who played the ward might have. They still belong in the "no impact" tier imo, but I just thought this was worth mentioning.
@blackyoda2278
@blackyoda2278 Жыл бұрын
Im queuing as ghost face watching this and I see the Eyrie of Crows mist section, look up, and I’m in the map, and survivors brought an offering and yellow mist. Thanks Otz
@magismith9215
@magismith9215 Жыл бұрын
The mist has actually cause me issues as a survivor before. I was playing a game with my buddy on Eyrie and a purple mist was sent. We went up against a ghostface and found it incredibly hard to break his stealth. Even when healing in the exit gate, he just sat in the doorway and we could not reveal him. That game was the thickest mist ive ever seen
@cherryplumpearlYT
@cherryplumpearlYT Жыл бұрын
Ive heard an argument that some people may bring the -2 chest offering to counteract the extra chests of Hoarder, so that they can focus on Hoarder notifications just being the box, vaccines etc.
@shiftyvee
@shiftyvee Жыл бұрын
A part of me died with that intro
@nevadajuice836
@nevadajuice836 Жыл бұрын
same fr ong
@kazquala
@kazquala Жыл бұрын
??
@Davakl
@Davakl Жыл бұрын
I liked the time where map offerings only gave you a 25/50/75 chance. I was very confused when I realised that you can only get 100% ones now
@ghastman7818
@ghastman7818 Жыл бұрын
Considering the Coin Offering: You forgot the psychological advantage you get as a killer when you deny the survivors the chests for their archives. Other then that great video as always otz
@archmagemc3561
@archmagemc3561 Жыл бұрын
Old RCPD had a use for 3-4 purple +1m branches, as its hallways that separated hooks by quite a bit separated the hooks even more, making it so that there were complete deadzones even with no hooks missing unless the killer had agitation and this was quite common. It actually made No Mither fairly good with unbreakable for the recovery speed since you could run into that corner, and either get dropped by the killer and run back there, or the killer ignores you and you just keep picking yourself up over and over and every survivor could do this.
@onyxthesnowy
@onyxthesnowy Жыл бұрын
Blood point offering especially ones that give points to survives can encourage them to help each other more often and can make everyone more chill sometimes? everyone knows they’re going to get bonus BP so they could maybe not be so try hard? or they could try to grind as many BPs as possible depends on the person
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647
@nat-uraldisasterpieces8647 Жыл бұрын
That just depends on the person so it can't really be judged for that I've seen plenty of Survivors DC on first down despite having a full BP lobby and I've seen plenty of Killers tunnel everyone out at 4/5 Gens in the same circumstance.
@jrich436
@jrich436 Жыл бұрын
Countless times I’ve waited at the exit gate with a hatch offering and got out because the killer went to whatever building and closed it Have to grab the tape if there’s an Onryo with a tv by gate. I’ve had a Spirit get to me on time across map once with speed add ons, but for the most part I’ve opened the gate baiting them with hatch
@lumineonlover7780
@lumineonlover7780 Жыл бұрын
I think Map-Offerings should remove items and addons when using them, it means you have a choice of a great medkit/toolbox or a great map which makes them less brainless. Maybe a less punishment for killer, maybe only having the choice of 1 add-on with a map offering
@megashock1319
@megashock1319 Жыл бұрын
No
@boardglass6050
@boardglass6050 Жыл бұрын
how about we give survivors another gen to complete huh?
@garabaldygarminigavitch583
@garabaldygarminigavitch583 Жыл бұрын
Otz claims at 1:55 that bringing BP offerings doesn't affect gameplay at all but every time I pop a Bloody Party Streamers it turns the killer into either a wallhack or a tombstone Myers with a pink mori.
@obiwankenobi8494
@obiwankenobi8494 Жыл бұрын
After that intro that rope is lookin mighty fine
@AshenSnow
@AshenSnow Жыл бұрын
So either this is Otz or there is no God. Well played.
@astarondenoirmonde4939
@astarondenoirmonde4939 Жыл бұрын
I believe that the offerings to put the cave in main building is better than in the shack in a lot of situation. By not getting the cave at the shack survivors are free to loop at one of the best spot of the map without being scared of going to be punish by going to cave if they mess up. Plus, even if, like you say in the video, cave at main building is stronger for killer, in solo queue i see the most killers simply miss that the cave is in main and use a normal hook. It can also be more difficult to reach than in shack as a killer. As a killer i'm often scared of not getting the time to hook on cave in main, sometimes by not knowing the exact location of the beginning of the stairs, or by not knowing the shorter way to go in. This can seem pointless for matchs with very good killers, but for thoses who don't have a MMR of pro players i think this is consistent. Medium or even good killer can have theses problems with cave at main
@avatar5058
@avatar5058 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Otz intro 😭
@cobalt2672
@cobalt2672 Жыл бұрын
So the meanest offering combo is Eyrie map, shack basement, increased hook distance and increased mist...that's got to be nasty to go against as killer
@notOtzdarva
@notOtzdarva Жыл бұрын
Yeah that has to be awful 😅
@FANETO2688
@FANETO2688 Жыл бұрын
As a killer i run the plus25%, 50% or 75% mist only if im playing as a trapper. & run the add ons that make the traps harder to see. It works wonders tbh
@JmanIQ
@JmanIQ Жыл бұрын
3:35 wow otz it seems like this may have happened to you, you expalined it so well!
@crusadernikolai1996
@crusadernikolai1996 Жыл бұрын
Map offerings are the bane of my existence I hate how common they are compared to the counter, the one that blocks maps
@whydamage2074
@whydamage2074 Жыл бұрын
Hey Otz, I would love to see another "all perks explained and tierlisted" kinda like video. lot of things had changed since the last video and I would rlly love that. Thanks for all the info videos lately !
@samdicecco5749
@samdicecco5749 Жыл бұрын
I agree that the placement of the black and white wards makes sense, as they don’t actually change anything about the trial itself. BUT while not changing the trial, they’re pretty useful for determining if your opponent is bringing a particularly strong item or set of add ons. So if I see one as a killer I can expect at least one really strong med kit usually or as survivor probably a blight with alchemist ring or spirit with mother daughter ring or something. It doesn’t actually change the trial but it can be helpful to try and have an idea what you’re up against.
@JACK-kp8tb
@JACK-kp8tb Жыл бұрын
Purple Shroud is strong. I use it with Hyperfocus, BNP, and Prove Thyself. We all spawn on 1 generator and finish it in like 30 seconds lol.
@alexjarzebowsky3483
@alexjarzebowsky3483 Жыл бұрын
Yay! Great video, thanks. I suggested it on one of your recent streams, maybe I gave you an inspiration. Anyway, good to have it all nicely explained in one place
@likelyLuna
@likelyLuna Жыл бұрын
Otz always gives us high effort videos we didn't know we needed! 🥰
@xxxphxxx
@xxxphxxx Жыл бұрын
I sometimes like to add Mist while im playing Trapper to hide the traps, alongside that addon to make them darker
@christophermino7101
@christophermino7101 Жыл бұрын
Played against 3 Petrified Oaks on Garden of Joy the other day. I got one hook at the shack. The next closest hook from shack that was still kinda safe to reach was at the corner of the close to the greenhouse/picket fence. And there was none at the parking lot. The rest of the map had them spawn rather normally, but damn. (Of course there is a very good chance I missed seeing a hook in the heat of the moment, but that also helps the survivors)
@katastrophecy
@katastrophecy Жыл бұрын
i don't know if you'll see this, otz, but if the shroud of binding and separation switched sides, how do you think you would rate them, roughly?
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd let us know which ones were the secret ones. Is it just Mori's that are secret?
@whatdoiposthere
@whatdoiposthere Жыл бұрын
I never noticed purple hand icons looked different until now!
@ultr0shot440
@ultr0shot440 10 ай бұрын
Aaannnddd now with xeno we discovered that the cut coin add-ons could actually be great on some killers.
@JuanSebas28
@JuanSebas28 Жыл бұрын
The only times the shroud of binding is good is if you're on a swf and brought prove with 4 brand new parts and streetwise and hyper focus on a green toolbox, just to have that first gen go right away, and even then, the one to spawn in pairs could be better to have two gens go right away instead of one
@mudstick
@mudstick Жыл бұрын
another downside to bp offerings is a hidden stat that increases your odds of facing a basement bubba
@NotSimo
@NotSimo Жыл бұрын
This is Otz? Deadass???
@irritatingperson7882
@irritatingperson7882 Жыл бұрын
sacrificial ward is also great because of the joy you feel when you deny a broken map offering
@Kaitri
@Kaitri Жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY you forgot one thing, the 2 offerings say "spawn hatch IN shack IN main building" but the shack literally always spawns outside to the side of the shack/building.
@ryandick8066
@ryandick8066 Жыл бұрын
I think more offerings need to be secret offerings and not just the shrouds (and Moris) . It would shake up the game a little trying to guess what the other survivors or killer brings.
@briancanales3753
@briancanales3753 Жыл бұрын
I personally like using mist add ons on sadako (with the intermittent add on) to sneak up in the open .
@yaboiskittlez7943
@yaboiskittlez7943 Жыл бұрын
Hello Otz, this is friends, at least according to my subscription. It seems you missed in your map offering description to say that usually if the survivor who brought the map offering goes down first, they DC from the game, which makes them very strong for killer even if the survivors bring the offering. It's a 1 in 4 guess, but you can usually tell if there's a Nea or Feng with a flashlight and bright cosmetics that it was them.
@michaelshed7172
@michaelshed7172 Жыл бұрын
Might be copium, but I think bringing a BP cake makes the killer want to play longer games, therefore improving your chances to survive/gain more bp/gain more pips. Whenever I play a snowball heavy killer and see the survivors bring a lot of BP offerings, I often stall with my snowball even if I get the chance, just because I don't wanna waste those offerings.
@RN_LR
@RN_LR Жыл бұрын
3:32 Someone: Otz, how do you know that? Otz: It would be better if you just didn't ask
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