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Viswanathan Anand vs John Nunn
Hoogovens (1990), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-13
Spanish Game: Marshall Attack. Re3 variation (C89)
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 9. ed5 Nd5 10. Ne5 Ne5 11. Re5 c6 12. Bd5 cd5 13. d4 Bd6 14. Re3 Qh4 15. h3 g5 16. b3 f5 17. Qf3 Bb7 18. Re6 Rae8 19. Re8 Re8 20. Kf1 g4 21. Qf5 gh3 22. Qh3 Qh3 23. gh3 Bc8 24. Be3 Bh3 25. Ke2 Bg4 26. Kd3 Bf5 27. Ke2 Bg4 28. Kd3 Bf5 29. Ke2 Rc8 30. f3 Kf7 31. Bd2 h5 32. c4 Re8 33. Kf2 Bd3 34. Be3 h4 35. f4 dc4 36. bc4 bc4 37. Nd2 Rb8 38. Kf3 c3 39. Ne4 Bb4 40. Rd1 Be4 41. Ke4 c2
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@leonardharris9930
@leonardharris9930 Жыл бұрын
Back in late 1967 as a 21 year old I played in a match for the Wimbledon Chess Club in the Thames Valley League. We played away against the Kingston Chess Club. Much to my initial chagrin I found that my opponent was a 12 year old. I soon discovered that he was an exceptionally strong 12 year old as he completely outplayed me and won the game quite easily. His name was John Nunn so I was not at all surprised by his later hugely successful chess career.
@lawdogwales5921
@lawdogwales5921 Жыл бұрын
Ouch! Playing a legend before anyone knew he was a legend. Great story though.
@leonardharris9930
@leonardharris9930 Жыл бұрын
@@lawdogwales5921 Ouch! describes exactly how I felt during and immediately after the game. Sadly, I do not think that I have the score of the game. But I do remember that I played the Scilian against his opening e4 and that he played an early c4, and that I was quite unable to stop him quickly seizing control of the centre and of the game. I was rated around 1600 at the time and achieved my peak rating of 2120 in 1973 when I stopped playing competative chess.
@leonardharris9930
@leonardharris9930 Жыл бұрын
@@lawdogwales5921 Two years after my game with John Nunn whilst I was an undergraduate at the London School of Economics I played in a match in the London League for the LSE Chess Team ( Economicals ) and found myself playing a teenager called Michael Steyn who later became a Grandmaster. At the time I had already heard of him and knew him to be a strong player so was not at all confident of a good result. Once again I had the Black pieces and the game progressed rapidly through a well known opening where I took every opportunity to exchange pieces whilst keeping a balanced position, This continued until we reached a rook and pawn ending which whilst equal in material was not ( in my view ) positionally good for me. I was not looking forward at all to having to defend a difficult R & P endgame when he surprised me by offering a draw which I immediately and gratefully accepted!
@lawdogwales5921
@lawdogwales5921 Жыл бұрын
@@leonardharris9930 You can't hope for more than a draw against a much stronger player.
@davidcopson5800
@davidcopson5800 Жыл бұрын
Great story.
@jorymil
@jorymil Жыл бұрын
A quick note: Hoogovens is the Dutch steel company sponsoring the tournament. The tournament itself was held in Wijk aan Zee.
@Zahrul3
@Zahrul3 Жыл бұрын
Also quick note: Tata Steel bought the company that owned Hoogevens, so now the event is called Tata Steel Chess
@Senshidayo
@Senshidayo Жыл бұрын
I knew it was weird Tata Steel ran such an old, prestigious tournament that dates to British India. It makes sense they bought out the actual original sponsor.
@intercalz
@intercalz Жыл бұрын
Tata Steel was founded in 1907. Hoogovens Tournament was started in 1938. So, it is not that weird if purely talking in terms of time.
@montetanktankkiller700
@montetanktankkiller700 Жыл бұрын
I met Nunn at the Hamburg Wichern Open in 19970r 1998. He stayed with me. That was the norm back then - the foreign grandmasters found accommodation with the family of a member of a Hamburg chess club. To save hotel costs. At that time I had an ELO of only 1980 and 5 points from 7 games (an amazing amount). With 6 points I could have snagged a prize for the best non-titled out of the 9 rounds. He just advised me not to play for a draw - but to play "all or nothing". I did it. Lost in Round 8 but won in Round 9 against Häikonnen-a GM. I didn't care about the prize money I won. I had a tournament rating of 2290 and had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Nunn. A very imaginative GM - who could have gone much further - had he only been focused on chess. BTW-His result was 6,5 of 9-but is wasn`t enough for a price.
@ElBa55man
@ElBa55man Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday John, such a classy player, and thanks Antonio for the fine explanation and tribute. Also good to know John is very active and still bossing it in the senior league
@howardcarter3362
@howardcarter3362 Жыл бұрын
I love your historically interesting accurate annecodotes & current news of players. Nunn is a genuinely nice guy too. He gave Murray Chandler & I a lift back to London from a tournament he probably won. It was an incredible time for English chess with Grandmasters popping up like roses from the the baron land of no GMs just a decade previously.
@davidcopson5800
@davidcopson5800 Жыл бұрын
He may have been a grandmaster of chess, but you discovered the tomb of Tutankhamun!
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Mr Nunn, wonderful player.
@xethnyrrow
@xethnyrrow Жыл бұрын
8:53 Now that is a fully operational bishop pair.
@ali_n
@ali_n Жыл бұрын
IMO a thing that needs to be incorporated into engines is taking into account how many lines there are that lead to 0.0. There's a difference between when only one move keeps you in the game and when there are 10 moves that you can make and still not lose.
@arunavamaulik19
@arunavamaulik19 Жыл бұрын
What a great idea!
@ilijavxx
@ilijavxx Жыл бұрын
This already exist. Stockfish can show 5 different lines for each position with the respective evaluation.
@monstermagnet3150
@monstermagnet3150 Жыл бұрын
@@ilijavxx Not the same
@jg-reis
@jg-reis Жыл бұрын
This game will be shown as long as there are libraries and bars. ^___^ Thank you for bringing us this masterpiece!
@unstableatbest
@unstableatbest Жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary of the final conclusion, sir. "Every move white makes ends up in some sort of brutal checkmate. Now on to my next point."
@gerard4169
@gerard4169 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Agadmator for showing this wonderful game, and a very happy birthday to Mr John Dennis Martin Nun 🍾♟️
@DiCelloPiano
@DiCelloPiano Жыл бұрын
"Does not have a move for the last 15 moves" - I totally know the feeling :)
@brianjanson3498
@brianjanson3498 Жыл бұрын
I've never forgotten this game since I first saw it in Informant. Nunn went on to author at least one book on the King's Indian Defense that was very popular.
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx 3 ай бұрын
A brilliant display of how to exploit a slight tactical weakness. Very instructive
@nuformzdesign
@nuformzdesign Жыл бұрын
"... You're still going to get checkmated, and it's not like your life, your quality of life, has improved in any way." 😂 Savage.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc Жыл бұрын
Alexander: What were my odds of surviving this attack? John: Nunn!
@EsDlite
@EsDlite Жыл бұрын
Love this
@istvanhorvat5124
@istvanhorvat5124 Жыл бұрын
Few days ago I wanted to ask for more Nunn’s games. Perfect. Happy Birthday to John. :)
@twentyrothmans7308
@twentyrothmans7308 Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday, Dr Nunn! Talk about playing with one's food.
@MrHakeboy
@MrHakeboy Жыл бұрын
Lovely chill video on the rest day in WCC, thanks agad :)
@bendriver3242
@bendriver3242 Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Doctor! From one of your Oxford Maths pupils :)
@ronjohnson9690
@ronjohnson9690 Жыл бұрын
That was like watching John Nunn drive a silver spike through the heart of Dracula!
@nalgene247
@nalgene247 Жыл бұрын
Man, what an incredible bishop pair! I dream of making my bishops fully operational like that.
@sagesanmartin1896
@sagesanmartin1896 Жыл бұрын
"pretty much every line ends in some sort of a brutal checkmate" That's the good stuff.
@awriter1214
@awriter1214 Жыл бұрын
I'd have been happier if this video came out an year later
@amoldivo
@amoldivo Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this match when you posted John Nunn vs Vishy Anand game! And went to check this player and found he had played a game where he won against Beliavsky in 1985 and people have considered the game as his immortal game!! I also noticed that April 25th (which is today) is his birthday, he turns 68 this year! 🙂
@b.j.a.m.peters
@b.j.a.m.peters Жыл бұрын
John Nunn was the second of Nigel Short (his good friend) in the 1993 world championship PCA match against Gary Kasparov. An incredible chess duo.
@jasmint6703
@jasmint6703 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for hipping us to Nunn!
@manuelrodrigues5996
@manuelrodrigues5996 Жыл бұрын
Only agadmator coukd get me to know Joh n Nunn, thats why you re the best, you go the extra length to increase our vast knowledge, sharing with friends at the bar and the library, hope to see you at the bar so i can pay you a Karlovačko’s!!!!
@dhfmarcus9103
@dhfmarcus9103 Жыл бұрын
Nice, elaborate analysis! 👍
@sami6911
@sami6911 Жыл бұрын
Nice to know I share my birthday with such a great guy
@HeWishesForTheClothesOfHeaven
@HeWishesForTheClothesOfHeaven Жыл бұрын
I have a recommendation for a series: Best games of the Kasparov-Karpov rivalry. That is the greatest rivalry in chess history, and an examination of their brilliant games and contrasting styles is certainly worthy of such attention. Thanks for the continued great work!
@davidcopson5800
@davidcopson5800 Жыл бұрын
Very good idea.
@drzlecuti
@drzlecuti Жыл бұрын
I have one of Nunn's books and I agree that he is a very good chess writer and instructor.
@Trip_Fontaine
@Trip_Fontaine Жыл бұрын
I've noticed the phenomenon described at the end in multiple games. The best move for an intermediate player is different than the best move for an expert player, because the intermediate player will not be able to figure out all the follow-up moves that makes the expert's best move great. Essentially grandmasters are intermediate players and the engines are expert players now.
@michaelpeters3933
@michaelpeters3933 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite games, and in Seirawan's "Winning Chess Brilliancies" Awesome! 😎
@5kunk157h35h17
@5kunk157h35h17 Жыл бұрын
#suggestion Would be great with more bot games. Not way too many but it would be fun to see a few again.
@wixom01
@wixom01 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes chess can be like boxing. But at least in boxing the ref would step in to stop the fight after several unanswered blows, but not so in chess. You have to take blow after blow as did the hapless Mr. Beliavsky, and in the end you finish punch drunk. We've all been there.
@joeldick6871
@joeldick6871 Жыл бұрын
Agadmator makes it sound like the opening moves up to about move 14 are all very standard, but I looked up this game in Nunn's book Secrets of Grandmaster Play and he explains at great length the novel thinking that went into the plan of ...Nd7 and ...c5.
@vrishankpandey8537
@vrishankpandey8537 11 ай бұрын
A wholesome, yet interesting (almost miniature) immortal by the British grandmaster Nunn!
@Juiced10111
@Juiced10111 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful game! Thanks!
@lucasdeoliveira5316
@lucasdeoliveira5316 Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday, John Nunn!
@dylanrambow2704
@dylanrambow2704 Жыл бұрын
One interesting idea for how to make engine evaluations more useful and more human is to maybe attach a percentage to each move, a likelihood that a human will find that particular winning tactic.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 Жыл бұрын
A current engine could give this sort of evaluation with an analysis of imperfect moves and the depth at which they become imperfect. This can give a 'tree tightness' for both players, telling you how many moves from the ones selected by the neural network (so discarding the really stupid moves) are okay for each side. When one side has three valid options and the other side has only one response for each one, this should be given as a +3x advantage. This can be done with modern engines because they prune by neural network, so they discard the ridiculous moves at an early stage, before doing the depth-search.
@d4slaimless
@d4slaimless Жыл бұрын
9:15 Honestly, my first thought was to try Nef4 making more space for the king. P.S. Somehow there's Viswanathan Anand vs John Nunn in the description instead of Beliavsky vs Nunn
@johnsaunders5631
@johnsaunders5631 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrSmhsmm0qmyqKM.html [Event "02, Wijk aan Zee"] [Site "02, Wijk aan Zee"] [Date "1985.??.??"] [EventDate "?"] [Round "?"] [Result "0-1"] [White "Alexander Beliavsky"] [Black "John Nunn"] [ECO "E81"] [WhiteElo "?"] [BlackElo "?"] [PlyCount "54"] 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 O-O 6.Be3 Nbd7 7.Qd2 c5 8.d5 Ne5 9.h3 Nh5 10.Bf2 f5 11.exf5 Rxf5 12.g4 Rxf3 13.gxh5 Qf8 14.Ne4 Bh6 15.Qc2 Qf4 16.Ne2 Rxf2 17.Nxf2 Nf3+ 18.Kd1 Qh4 19.Nd3 Bf5 20.Nec1 Nd2 21.hxg6 hxg6 22.Bg2 Nxc4 23.Qf2 Ne3+ 24.Ke2 Qc4 25.Bf3 Rf8 26.Rg1 Nc2 27.Kd1 Bxd3 0-1
@viccietudaye370
@viccietudaye370 Жыл бұрын
beautiful and brutal (paradox of chess)
@danielhallback
@danielhallback Жыл бұрын
Thanks from the ABC’s of Chess For Kids team!
@cboii2861
@cboii2861 Жыл бұрын
Anand in the description? Amazing game tho
@ihcfn
@ihcfn Жыл бұрын
Great point from Anish.
@jeffjones6951
@jeffjones6951 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating observation! starting at 12:44
@jonathancauley5345
@jonathancauley5345 Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Immortal! :)
@finsfinst4274
@finsfinst4274 Жыл бұрын
0:15: "... the tournament was won by I Dont Wanna Trick You Guys So Let Me Just Check Real Quickly". I keep hearing about this "I Dont Wanna Trick You Guys" fella - who is he? Sounds like he won helluva lot tournaments. Must be a very strong player! :)
@Brusselpicker
@Brusselpicker Жыл бұрын
Dr John Nunn was and is one of the most important figures in English chess. Just to add Magnus Carlsen said about Dr Nunn "I am convinced the reason the Englishman John Nunn never became world champion is that he is too clever for that. ..He has so incredibly much in his head. Simply too much. His enormous powers of understanding and his constant thirst for knowledge distracted him from chess." In later years he has developed an interest in astronomy.
@dodekaedius
@dodekaedius Жыл бұрын
Oh shit. I think I went a similar path, but my distraction starts earlier, so I achieve less. Besides that, I'm also not on Nunns level, even as a Mensa member (one of the more stupid individuals there).
@SuperAidan2000
@SuperAidan2000 Жыл бұрын
I would’ve waited one more year for the video for his special bday
@jalureswara2719
@jalureswara2719 Жыл бұрын
John was having Nunn of that attack by Beliavsky.
@lol101lol101lol10199
@lol101lol101lol10199 Жыл бұрын
Great game! Although some consider the opening to be boring as it leads to same-ish positions every time.
@sreevalsanmenon2730
@sreevalsanmenon2730 Жыл бұрын
Really immortal ❤
@lagaleriaco3294
@lagaleriaco3294 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps some of Bent Larsen´s best games against the Soviets.
@FloydMaxwell
@FloydMaxwell Жыл бұрын
#Suggestion -- anything from Wolfgang Unzicker -- the "world champion of amateurs". His peak rating of 2545 would have been in the Top 20 or 25 in 1985. Pretty impressive considering that ratings rise over the years.
@LordFred69
@LordFred69 Жыл бұрын
John really liked the bishop pair
@michaelmassaro4375
@michaelmassaro4375 Жыл бұрын
Nothing more to be done I would’ve resigned many moves ago no way was White getting out from the crunch Black had him in Great Game Much Thanks
@awriter1214
@awriter1214 Жыл бұрын
Technically, an engine like that is not difficult to create. Just a lengthy data analysis using Baye's Theorem
@lukecash3500
@lukecash3500 11 ай бұрын
"No he will obliterate you." When presented with GM competition, I exercise the most efficient move in chess. I resign.
@danielhill3665
@danielhill3665 Жыл бұрын
Did you say he could be cheeky about it.🤣🤣 👌 cheeky
@impressi5697
@impressi5697 Жыл бұрын
😂😂"It's notlike your quality of life has improved"
@crazytomato4845
@crazytomato4845 Жыл бұрын
Great game
@alexandrenr
@alexandrenr Жыл бұрын
Thanks agad!! Alex roozmon
@gingerfish90
@gingerfish90 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: John Nunn was circumcised in his 20's due to his foreskin being infected by a gerbil. Whilst qualifying for the Gibraltar Open.
@kinnoinen
@kinnoinen Жыл бұрын
68 years old, nice-ish
@DakotaTipton
@DakotaTipton 11 ай бұрын
If anything This game has shown me the importance of castling your king. Whites king stood no chance when the knights started causing trouble
@VibhasPatil
@VibhasPatil Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't what Antonio talked about at the end about engines already available on Lichess? Whenever I've gone into the 'Analysis' section, I've seen the percentage breakup of white wins, draws, and black wins. Isn't that what Giri was talking about?
@fourtime7
@fourtime7 Жыл бұрын
Squeezed him like a boa constrictor.
@markhughes2556
@markhughes2556 10 күн бұрын
"It's not as if your quality of life has improved or anything" :¬D
@stewste4316
@stewste4316 Жыл бұрын
crazy game
@joelevans3860
@joelevans3860 Жыл бұрын
If recapturing a pawn is a beautiful move, I am an artist😂
@saurabhadas
@saurabhadas Жыл бұрын
When are you going to do Anand's run for the world championship?
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa Жыл бұрын
The English masters have a lot of goofy, fun ganes
@harshalbhanarkar
@harshalbhanarkar Жыл бұрын
Agad ur discription About this game is Wrong it's discription of Previous video in discription box
@dodekaedius
@dodekaedius Жыл бұрын
Game starts at 3:17 For the story: check 0:00
@davidantonsavage6207
@davidantonsavage6207 Жыл бұрын
Yes there are checkmates and then there are brutal checkmates.
@ayubkhanjr3521
@ayubkhanjr3521 Жыл бұрын
Make a playlist of immortal games...
@dicksonmvula4583
@dicksonmvula4583 Жыл бұрын
Hey Agadmator when are you adding to what sorcery is this?
@Trip_Fontaine
@Trip_Fontaine Жыл бұрын
hxg6 was pure sadism, lol.
@usushio9196
@usushio9196 Жыл бұрын
The game record written in the summary section is different from the video
@LUCA-vr9es
@LUCA-vr9es Жыл бұрын
#suggestion Satty Zhuldyz Blitz, Erigaisi vs Yifan
@michaelmassaro4375
@michaelmassaro4375 Жыл бұрын
Does seem to be the crucial mistake not taking the Black Rook with the Knight as he went after the Queen with knight instead the beginning of the end
@SamuelPearlman
@SamuelPearlman Жыл бұрын
2nd to Nunn! :p
@darksoul6482
@darksoul6482 Жыл бұрын
Game starts at 3:14
@renehenriksen1735
@renehenriksen1735 Жыл бұрын
What actor is it that John Nunn is reminding me of?
@Lasselucidora
@Lasselucidora Жыл бұрын
When will we see Agadmators book: "10.000 Immortal games" ?
@user-eu6uz7jx5z
@user-eu6uz7jx5z Жыл бұрын
মাং গে গে মাং
@daniellord-doyle5273
@daniellord-doyle5273 Жыл бұрын
You should write a book!!
@felipeamaral8061
@felipeamaral8061 3 ай бұрын
6:13 you say he has a knight and a rook for the queen but wouldn’t it be two knights and a rook for the queen since Nunn had already sacrificed a knight for the attack ?
@ricky2319
@ricky2319 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, wrong game in the description
@MrK623
@MrK623 Жыл бұрын
At 9:39 if QxN, BxQ, KxB white has R and 2N's for Blacks Q and 2 pawns. I feel that white is losing anyway, this equalizes the material, creates an unbalanced position, and takes some of the immediate attacking pieces away from black.
@quinto1833
@quinto1833 Жыл бұрын
I think even if I played it against an International Master, he or she would obliterate me.
@fetentone8936
@fetentone8936 Жыл бұрын
He was having nunn of it
@lwalker8785
@lwalker8785 Жыл бұрын
The King's Indian used to be one of the main defences against 1. d4. But computers don't like it so you hardly see it now at the top level. More boring lines like the Queen's Gambit Declined are in ascendancy now, which in a way is rather sad.
@danielwilkowski5899
@danielwilkowski5899 7 ай бұрын
5:55, why not king to d1?
@dash_r_media
@dash_r_media 5 ай бұрын
1. Kd1 Nxf2+ 2. Ke1 Nd3+ 3. Kd1 Rxf1+ 4. Kc2 Nb4+ 5 Kb3 Rxa1 There are a couple of notes: 1) If white tries 2 Nxf2, 2...Rxf2 recaptures with tempo and 3...Rxf1+ is next unless 2 Qxf2 Qxf2, which is obviously insufficient; 2) Similarly, an alternative to 4 Kc2 in the main line is 4 Qxf1, which is again insufficient after 4...Qxf1+ and 5...Qxa1; 3) the toughest challenge to the main line appears to be 3 Qxd3 Rxd3 4 Bxd3. Black has a two-pawn advantage here and white cannot castle, but there's no forced loss in this position that I can see.
@elpollolocoman119
@elpollolocoman119 Жыл бұрын
Ehh, I like the honest evaluations of the engines that are indiscriminative. However, I do disagree with the engines being under the impression that the pieces should be given points. That was the upper hand Alphazero had over Stockfish 8, look up the reason why they gave that name to Alphazero. Alphazero's goal was to just win. Maybe too ambitious, if the game is either a draw or loss. However, its goal was to win. A very important concept it was given. Thus positioning was how it evaluated every game. With stockfish, it would give black the upper hand simply out of "material advantage", for just trading a bishop for a rook, with no immediate compensation for white. But as we remember how Tal to this day out calculated Stockfish 15, and found a forced mate, for white, when black had pass pawns, and up many points in material. The way Stockfish was built was a mistake. However convincing it may be, there is so much more to chess that we have to learn in every game. The new engine should be given a better philosophy so to speak. Anyways with these new quantum computers they are coming out with, who knows how strong the new engines will become. It's not only exciting that we will have "better" engines, but it's exciting that they could easily enlighten even the odd players or even congratulate them for the "strange" moves. At the end of the day, I still believe we humans are better and are more intelligent than the engines, but we burden ourselves with silly emotions, from bad experiences and we lead ourselves into a hole of dogmatic theory "inspired" by naïve ambitions and demoralizations.
@daviddickey8100
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