you don't have to wait a decade, the ps6 and next xbox, which will be released in 5 to 7 years will have similar or even better performance than the rtx 4090
@HShango Жыл бұрын
🤣 I'm with you
@dkerr200 Жыл бұрын
I just got a used 3090. This is basically an announcement for what you will be able to buy in 2 years for a high price and 4 years for a reasonable price.
@blackstar-genX Жыл бұрын
@@MGTOW89 ya right
@pabloescoe Жыл бұрын
And that’s about when you’ll need one to actually play a game.
@Jactional8 ай бұрын
Just built my first pc. I913900k and 4090 founders edition. This pc is unbelievable
@ReKonstructor3 ай бұрын
The 50 series specs was just leaked, and the 5070 is 15%ish percent better than your 4090 lol
@Stardomplay2 ай бұрын
@@ReKonstructor No it wasn't. Why did you just lie so comfortably like that? You are ridiculous.
@shakyawijemunilolАй бұрын
@@ReKonstructor They won't even release the 5070 til Q2 2025💀 "5070 gOt LeAkEd". Bro fell for a yt clickbait vid
@SpontaneousWeasel Жыл бұрын
It's fascinating to see this level of graphical grunt, but I must say my 3070ti is doing more than I need right now and the fact that 4090 costs the same as my entire pc build is just nuts.
@ShahZahid Жыл бұрын
well it is way more powerful, also im pretty happy with my 3070 as well its sucks that they hard lock newer software features, dlss 3 would have increased the life of 3000 series cards by a huge margin
@jcaashby3 Жыл бұрын
I just got a 3080 .. upgraded from a 1080ti. I just don't ever set a time that I need anything this beastly!!!
@mikem2253 Жыл бұрын
@@jcaashby3 here I am hoping this causes a massive drop in 3080 and 3090 pricing
@Olibelus Жыл бұрын
My ass still running a 1050Ti 😢
@TUTruth Жыл бұрын
Rich people exist and here we are.
@___Robin___ Жыл бұрын
Digital foundry always has this very calm vibe when talking about technology and I love how their charts set them apart from the rest. Their analysis always offers a unique perspective often comparing frame by frame gameplay to learn about new technologies and get a better understanding of new architectures.
@jamesmuking Жыл бұрын
they are the best analysis channel, hands down
@ChristianHedman Жыл бұрын
The atmosphere is why I always start with DF. Next up: GN
@ShadowMKII Жыл бұрын
I agree. The same goes for channels like Hardware Unboxed, which have really amazing charts, and set themselves apart from places like Gamer's Nexus and Digital Foundry. Their unique perspectives and insight into average performance for games is very calming for how objectively they tend to look at things. It's really chill. (...Heh.)
@Saif0412 Жыл бұрын
Not a Gigabyte per second bandwidth, the Bandwidth is approx 1 Terabyte per second. Which is insane.
@itsd0nk Жыл бұрын
?!
@al3rgen Жыл бұрын
@@itsd0nk memory
@goshtic9565 Жыл бұрын
@@itsd0nk Yeah, he misspoken at 3:08 reading the script. Should've been "almost a terabyte" of bandwidth. Instead, he read the script as "a gigabyte of bandwidth" which there is 1018 of them. I am surprised he didn't caught that as being off when reading the script.
@adi6293 Жыл бұрын
Radeon VII had that years ago :P:P
@esaedvik Жыл бұрын
@@adi6293 Which was tbh a test batch of a GPU. AMD is in a bit of trouble with this kind of bumps in performance...
@nigel-uno Жыл бұрын
Great that you mentioned the issue with G-Sync not working with DLSS 3.0. That's something that would annoy the hell out of me after dropping 1.5K on a GPU.
@simracingchannel7691 Жыл бұрын
1.5k is cheap, in EU the FE costs €2K and the aftermarket starts from €2.4k
@EndoV2 Жыл бұрын
So if you have a native g-sync processor/monitor, the DLSS 3.0 would cause issues? I ask cause I have the Alienware aw2521H 360hz monitor that has the g-sync module, and I play fps/competitive games so the decrease in latency is worrisome. I wonder, is there a way to run DLSS 2.0 on the new cards? Sounds like the last gen cards are better for my scenario…
@Sebbz Жыл бұрын
@@EndoV2 DLSS 2.0 is also possible to use on the 4000 series
@nicholkid Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not the target demo for this card but it's cool to see the crazy performance of it. I'd like to see it run marbles.
@DubElementMusic Жыл бұрын
yea, i dont see any reason to buy one now, specially not for this price, but maybe in 2-3 years for 300 or whatever will be out there..... it`s not worth is at all. there is no game i want to play that needs more power than my 3080 can deliver, and i dont think this changes in the next few years, i dont need to play on ultra, for this money i almost can buy a noe motocycle that lasts longer than 2 years :D
@MavihsLH Жыл бұрын
@@DubElementMusic I mean aren't the 90 series beyond gaming? The productivity on this card is absolutely phenomenal according to the Linus video. Buying it to only play games is not worth imo.
@DBTHEPLUG Жыл бұрын
@@DubElementMusic 300? LOL.
@braxalt2228 Жыл бұрын
@@MavihsLH none of the cards with their pricing right now is for consumers
@LetrixAR Жыл бұрын
@@braxalt2228 the reason this exists is probably because people were using productivity focused cards for gaming and NVIDIA just took advantage of that.
@criminal238 Жыл бұрын
It always great to see what I will be having in 6 to 8 years.
@user-fg2hh5zl5z Жыл бұрын
me as egyptian watching this while still using gtx 1060 for gamng and using half broken rift cv1 to play vr games
@JFinns Жыл бұрын
Yep, hopefully the RTX 6060 can pull this off in late 2026 at a reasonable price. Just in time for the PS6 announcement =/
@adzamree6870 Жыл бұрын
@yello regardless of that, the pro version will still come out in 2024(equivalent close to 3090 perhaps) for 3 years run before ps6 (2027) imo they need to catch up on games requirement too especially this incoming UE5
@johannessguten2527 Жыл бұрын
@@adzamree6870 im expecting the pro to be closer to the 4080 especially if they price it at 600$
@adzamree6870 Жыл бұрын
@@johannessguten2527 thats going to be overpowered lol considering its optimized
@jacklawsen6390 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love Richard's casual use of the phrase "streets ahead".
@taureanwilliams2900 Жыл бұрын
In the here and now
@JourneymanJohn Жыл бұрын
Sounds like these will pair really well with the Ryzen 7000 3D cache variants when they get released. Can't wait to see those results!
@4gbmeans4gb61 Жыл бұрын
A lot of reviewers who used new ryzen and old 5800 3d seen massive cpu bottlenecks, even at 4K in some game. I’m waiting to see how new 13900k 24 core handles the 4090 before I buy a cpu.
@mitlanderson Жыл бұрын
@@4gbmeans4gb61 lol, Intel's own first party benchmarks show the 5800X3D beating the 13900K in *_multiple_* titles.
@johannessguten2527 Жыл бұрын
@@mitlanderson will there be a 7950x 3D? I’m looking to build my first pc?
@mitlanderson Жыл бұрын
@@johannessguten2527 yes, q1 2023
@johannessguten2527 Жыл бұрын
@@mitlanderson that great to hear I guess I’ll wait then maybe these gpus will also have minor price drops by then as well
@gblessbacon Жыл бұрын
I REALLY wish they provided DP2.0 with the 4090.
@aaz1992 Жыл бұрын
honestly a surprising disappointment for me
@b-rant Жыл бұрын
@@aaz1992 Im curious as to how this is disappointing to you? Lower msrp than the 3090 was and much faster? what more could you want?
@N0N0111 Жыл бұрын
Another SHOCKER, officially the $1600 Geforce GPU is not supporting PCIe Gen 5.
@Satarras90 Жыл бұрын
@@randomguydoes2901 easily do 144fps/hz on alot of games and capped at DP 1.4 120hz LEL
@Satarras90 Жыл бұрын
@Alarge Corgi2 from 2 outlets already I've seen complain about it I believe you have to reduce quality in some way in the form of sub sampling to get 144, I'll have to go to their videos and see if they made corrections or not or if its true.
@willberry6434 Жыл бұрын
Glad this exists to push graphics forward, hopefully we can get something with this performance in the mainstream in around 5 years
@ross-carlson Жыл бұрын
Yeah, in 5 years these things used will likely be in the $500 range, certainly under $700 which will be amazing - it's fantastic to see such a huge leap in performance for basically no increase in cost - that said the cost of the 3090 was pretty insane already but at least we didn't get a huge jump there (and when you factor in inflation it's actually a bit _cheaper_ than 3090 was). Either way it's an incredible bit of kit - and we haven't even seen the 3rd party cards which will be even faster.
@raikozy35 Жыл бұрын
In 5 years you will be begging Nvidia to get their xx60 for 1600usd.
@wiLdchiLd2k Жыл бұрын
Fake „generated“ FPS with scaling is no „Performance“. Lets hope AMD will bring a card that will get 120FPS in real native 4K.
@GameslordXY Жыл бұрын
@@wiLdchiLd2k No? You are just hater. The numbers are clear,what more do you need? Especialy if it looks better than Native 4K.
@SpiralSkylines Жыл бұрын
@@wiLdchiLd2k They won’t. Can crush those hopes right now.
@BAYDROID Жыл бұрын
For one of this graphics card only, you can buy all 3 major gaming consoles
@chalpua8802 Жыл бұрын
You can build a PC and a PS5 for the cost of this GPU lol.
@MadX8 Жыл бұрын
As always with PC, it's up to you and your wallet. I have a modest PC (GTX 1070ti and Ryzen 2700X) but i just can't keep up with the evolution and the price of the new technology. I've bought a Series X and a Switch instead so i have everything i need to enjoy games in descent condition, and my PC is still around if i need to play something that isn't on Consoles. It's a very efficient way to enjoy everything without having to sell a kidney.
@chalpua8802 Жыл бұрын
@@MadX8 It not just about price also. Sure I think a good majority of people can afford these cards. They just make no sense value wise. I have a demanding job and family. I have a good PC, 2080 Ti and Ryzen 3600. I haven't gamed in it in 2 weeks because I've just had no time. When I am relaxing, Im just on my steam deck. A $1600 GPU makes no sense for people who have any sort of life outside of video gaming. For productivity and gaming, I could see someone making a case for it.
@theoldpcgamer77 Жыл бұрын
And I'd take a 4k 240hz capable gpu with DLSS 3 over some console with reduced graphics, meh 1 effect RT and low fps and poor joypad control schemes.
@reviewforthetube6485 Жыл бұрын
This is massive in 4k dude anywhere from 40 to 2x the performance even natively sometimes most of the time sitting around 70 to 80%gains natively that's freaking massive and massive in ray tracing. I'm truely shocked because we are only used to seeing 30-40% gains to generations. Also the cpu limits it even further can't imagine how good it is with even more powerful cpu's in the future! I truely didn't expect anything like this massive lol. I'm truely shocked at the raster gains!
@fugitive6549 Жыл бұрын
@@KoeiNL No, it doesn't. It's almost 3x as efficient as 3090ti.
@reviewforthetube6485 Жыл бұрын
@@KoeiNL are you high? It used less power then the 3090ti lol
@Macho_Fantastico Жыл бұрын
Despite it's price, you have to admit the 4K performance is stunning. Almost seems to good for most current games.
@romankozlovskiy789910 ай бұрын
This aged well
@capablanc4 ай бұрын
@romankozlovskiy7899 it did? 4090 is a 4k monster still
@TheUballe Жыл бұрын
The last rig I built was back in 2016, using a GTX 1080 FE. At that time, the gains over previous generations were significant and allowed me to really enjoy then-current gen games in a way that my Xbox One and PS4 could never approach (21:9 aspect ratio, FOV sliders, nearly 60 FPS at ultrawide-HD, and so on). It was pricey at the time, costing about $500, if I remember correctly. Today, with so few games taking advantage of the Series X I own, at $500, I cannot rationalize why I would spend nearly $2,000 for a 4090, much less $1000 for a 3090ti, to play the same damn games, at similar fidelity. It's not a question as to whether I can afford the card, but rather a question of whether it makes any real sense to do so, given the current state of gaming and the fact that I'm content with my Series X at the moment. Buying one of these just feels... irresponsible. I don't want to encourage this kind of pricing for a consumer-grade PC component dedicated to playing games.
@SkillipEvolver Жыл бұрын
Great comment. It definitely creates a tough decision, it’s just so costly. I currently looking at videos detailing this card in terms of production.
@Schizm1 Жыл бұрын
It's power is super impressive but not as impressive as price + bills you'll have to pay for this amount of power consumption oO Holy cow!
@najeebshah. Жыл бұрын
Then you cant afford the gpu if you csnt pay a minimal bill increase
@jeveritt8398 Жыл бұрын
@@najeebshah.a price increase on top of already ballooning prices
@Schizm1 Жыл бұрын
@@najeebshah. okay Bezos. Oh, fyi there is this little thing called "war" right now in Europe... so you know... slight, tiny increase of prices. It's not like you'd care being rich and all.
@timrattray Жыл бұрын
@@najeebshah. I don’t think any of us can afford the impact on the environment
@ThatGuyWhoComments1 Жыл бұрын
It's a premium card for the higher income individuals after all.
@CH-bn7qb Жыл бұрын
Clearly very powerful in say 5 - 6 years I would like to see this kind of performance with say 150W TGP that’s the real future
@infasis Жыл бұрын
It's kind of weird seeing mainstream game bloggers and influencers trashing things like the Steam Deck and other handhelds for their battery life, that they should be smaller, more powerful, (and make waffle fries too) while there seems to be no end in sight to how large and power hungry things will be on this other side of the market. I mainly find it nonsensical that they don't use even options given to them and don't consider the balance act manufacturers go though providing these devices at reasonable costs, but it's also like they don't pay any attention to just how crazy power consumption, size, etc has become or how impressive it is to be running the latest games on complete systems that max out at like 40 watts.
@JimBob1937 Жыл бұрын
"performance with say 150W TGP" Unlikely to happen. Rate of transistor shrinking is slowing down. Will need advancements in material science to boost clocks with same current draw, or massive die sizes.
@CH-bn7qb Жыл бұрын
@@JimBob1937 I wouldn’t say it’s unlikely it’s just a matter of time
@JimBob1937 Жыл бұрын
@@CH-bn7qb , we're hitting physical limitations of silicon. Intel's latest 1.8nm announcement has transistor feature size at 9 silicon atoms.
@CH-bn7qb Жыл бұрын
@@JimBob1937 technology will always move forward wether it be Intel or a third party having extreme high efficiency chips is just a matter of time physical limitations are only that until a new tech comes forward and breaks that limit.
@ICharlyl Жыл бұрын
Do we really need that amount of horse power? I feel like games are getting really grand in scale but also in detail, which makes most games nowdays a visual spectacle but also an empty shell, all this while also ramping up development time, crunch culture, costs and because of that, releasing incomplete games with predatory practices like loot boxes or season passes to make up for everything i said before. I appreciate advancements in technology, 4K 120fps with ray tracing is amazing, but i don't this necessary at the moment for the games right now (maybe it's great for other applications outside gaming realm) Such a high celling and the race for the highest fidelity has shadowed the game design and artistry behind games. I really wish more devs would use easier and less demanding engines so they could focus on delivering finished, inventing and passionate products instead of trying to impress with state of the art tools.
@vv3117 Жыл бұрын
100% Exactly what I was thinking.
@WickedRibbon Жыл бұрын
Well said 👏
@liamness Жыл бұрын
In a way, raytracing does lessen the load on devs though. Less requirement for carefully placing probes and baking lighting information into a scene. Then going through the process again if there is any change in the scene, or if there are other dynamic elements like time of day / weather.
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
Could not disagree more. So many of the problems in gaming tech have to do with devs using paradigms that are OUT OF DATE. Many highend technologies actually REDUCE the burden on devs in the long run despite an initial investment (like PBR or ray tracing)!
@Cptraktorn Жыл бұрын
absolutely brutal, hope the next generation of CPU's will be able to carry this beast.
@mirroredvoid8394 Жыл бұрын
10 percent jump in CPU performance these days would be revolutionary
@ross-carlson Жыл бұрын
@@mirroredvoid8394 Uh, well given 12900k was a roughly a 12% uplift over 11900k, and 7950x was a 15% uplift over 5950x 10% would be disappointing actually. Rumors are that 13900k will be a larger jump over 12900k that that over 11900k so maybe check those numbers and educate yourself there chief.
@tamish3551 Жыл бұрын
@@ross-carlson butt man
@crylune Жыл бұрын
Are you joking? Current CPUs can carry it just fine, hell, old gen CPUs can. Next gen will be a walk in the park. CPUs have gotten insanely strong, don't underestimate them lmao
@eslamarida Жыл бұрын
@@crylune no way i have r9 5900x and i barely get 60fps on spiderman with rt and eith only 70%gpu usage
@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 Жыл бұрын
The technology in this thing is actually insane
@snowpuddle9622 Жыл бұрын
there'sno technology, they just slapped more wattage to it
@tardwrangler1019 Жыл бұрын
@@snowpuddle9622 ok
@Valkyrutn Жыл бұрын
@@snowpuddle9622 They indeed added new dedicated hardware to enable DLSS3 reconstruction, that's way input lag was increased as rendering pipeline has now more steps.
@lyserberg Жыл бұрын
@@snowpuddle9622 it has better perf/watt so even if you capped the 4090 at a lower TDP, it'll still shit on equivalent AMD or NVIDIA GPUs.
@fineartpottamus9020 Жыл бұрын
@@lyserberg keep being delusional
@Bestwick1983 Жыл бұрын
It took 3 generations, but now I have a worthy upgrade for my 1080ti
@CaptainMarder Жыл бұрын
Good you had the patience, I didn't and went for the 30 series. Kinda wish I waited.
@LightVelox Жыл бұрын
sadly for 3x the price
@isaiasanchez1987 Жыл бұрын
Im upgrading my 980ti lol
@steveleadbeater8662 Жыл бұрын
1080 here. New Year build once all the hardware is in the wild
@SobotRex Жыл бұрын
My GTX 1080 has served me very well for last the 6 years, but it's finally time to upgrade my whole build!
@anonony9081 Жыл бұрын
I want this for VR so bad... Makes me think I'll build a new system over the next year and wait for prices to be a bit more reasonable before biting the bullet on the video card
@thechurchofsupersampling Жыл бұрын
Dripping with supersampling
@liamness Жыл бұрын
Maybe wait for VR headsets with eye tracking (and therefore supporting foveated rendering) to come out so you don't need to spend a month's rent on a GPU.
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
If you wait like a year you might even get that same performance for maybe half the price and maybe power draw. Maybe the RTX 5070/5080... Or an equivalent AMD card, if you prefer to have efficiency and still want to have a smaller looking card.
@ericd.9038 Жыл бұрын
@@liamness Hoping the PSVR2 releases at an affordable price, sees wide adoption, and begins to make foveated rendering standard in high-end VR titles. Really a lot is banking on Sony's success in that area in my opinion.
@liamness Жыл бұрын
@@ericd.9038 Quest Pro just announced and has eye tracking too, definitely not affordable though!
@TheDeconstructivist Жыл бұрын
I'm 40 years old and have never once gotten a truly bleeding edge computer, but I've finally taken the plunge (maybe this is a gamer's mid-life crysis?). I'm picking up this paired with a i9-13900KF and pretty much anything else money can buy. I might be much poorer afterwards, but I haven't upgraded my computer in 6 years and (as a life-long gamer) it is time! I actually will be running this rig with Corsair's 1440 OLED. I'd rather push my frames and max out RT than run 4k. My computer will be here in a week. It will be a long week.
@Natureboy8383 Жыл бұрын
We’re in the same boat, I’m also in my early 40’s and been a console gamer most of life. I recently built my first computer using the 5800x3d and a 7900xtx, 64 gb ram, and a total of 8 tb of ssd/nvme storage. Just returned the xtx and 5800x3d to Amazon and my 4090/7950x3d will be here today. I have a triple monitor setup (two 4K 28inch Samsung monitors vertically stacked and a 34 inch Samsung ultrawide 100hz). I’m so excited to get my 4090 today and max out raytracing on cyberpunk. You only live once.
@Natureboy8383 Жыл бұрын
Btw, how do you like your new computer?
@TheDeconstructivist Жыл бұрын
@@Natureboy8383 Be sure to hop back on and let me know how you're liking your new rig once it's set up! :D
@Natureboy8383 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDeconstructivist it’s now being delivered tomorrow by 9pm. Damn you UPS!lol
@TheDeconstructivist Жыл бұрын
@@Natureboy8383 Oh, how I know that pain. lol.
@jonnysac77 Жыл бұрын
if I don't pay rent or buy food for 3 months, I could afford this
@jamescameron1861 Жыл бұрын
I still follow high-end PC, but I stopped keeping up years ago. If I were to budget correctly, I could afford this kind of technology. Only just though... I'd rather not
@megaprimegamer1184 Жыл бұрын
Idk bro. I save like 5k after expenses but I cant even stomach this cost.
@1KayBilly Жыл бұрын
I wonder if DLSS 3 can evolve to predict frames at arbitrary spacing between frames, similar to Topaz algorithms. That would allow it to nullify visual frame stutter.
@beckergrey Жыл бұрын
Whoa! That's a good point.
@etienne1062 Жыл бұрын
Stutter is definitely the plague of PC gaming. It would be great if dlss was able to mitigate the issue.
@xproflipscarab Жыл бұрын
Nvidia Engineers screaming at their interns to write that shit down as we speak
@myztik5716 Жыл бұрын
It looks like it does if we go by the frametime graphs of the benchmarks. DLSS 3 is almost butter smooth
@SalveMonesvol Жыл бұрын
7:25 am interesting use for DLSS 3.0 would be to allow frame doubling above the engine limit. It would be a life saver for 30fps console ports, and also pretty cool to reach 500fps on other titles.
@ziokalco Жыл бұрын
It probably worsens the experience as it increases latency. It would look way smoother, but IMO the latency is by far the main problem when playing at low framerates. Though, it may turn out to be a valuable feature specially for lower tier future RX 40##
@ziokalco Жыл бұрын
If it can do that*
@SalveMonesvol Жыл бұрын
@@ziokalco It would certainly be bad for games like Dark Souls 1, but for slow games it should be just fine of it can be forced from the drivers. When latency is important, the best case scenario would be to turn 120fps into 240fps to take advantage of your Shiny new monitor.
@ShahZahid Жыл бұрын
for 30fps locked games there are generally mods and methods to bypass those, either a mod or a launch parameter
@adrianpoltorzycki1211 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the games also need to internally support DLSS3? I think older console ports that run 30fps are highly unlikely to get DLSS3
@singularonaut Жыл бұрын
Waiting for November to see the new rival from AMD 😎
@mikeoes1 Жыл бұрын
4090 is a beast, biggest gen on gen Rasterization increases I've ever seen. Price certainly reflects this. Thanks for all your hard work DF on this launch video. Would love to see DLSS Quality mode compared to Native (Both DLSS 2 and 3) as that's what I play with since DLSS Perf has some loss in quality vs Native but Quality mode does not for the most part. Seems like 4090 is a 120-144 Hz 4k Max settings beast. Can't wait to see Unreal 5 games played on it!
@raypol1 Жыл бұрын
I love how cyberpunk glitches during a benchmark at 12:58 :D
@DPedroBoh Жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive performance jump, but of course it's too expensive. But in the least it shows that tech didn't stagnate at all. Excited to see how amd responds.
@Totenglocke42 Жыл бұрын
It's the absolute top of the line GPU, of course it's not priced for average people. That's like complaining that a Bugatti isn't priced for the average driver.
@ShafHussain Жыл бұрын
‘Too expensive’. Seriously what else did people expect at this level of performance??
@avatarxs9377 Жыл бұрын
@@Totenglocke42 yeah, but games shouldn't be targeted just for richest people. and people wont buy game that needs high end hardware to run. It would be financial suicide for devs.
@gblessbacon Жыл бұрын
@@avatarxs9377 State of the art will always price out normal people. You can run games perfectly fine on lower end cards but if you want the best of the best you gotta pay for it. It will always be this way.
@you2be839 Жыл бұрын
It didn't quite stagnate yet, but for me, it still looks like a game of being between a rock and a hard place: -they'll run out of die shrinks eventually, and in fact, effective die size for lower end GPUs has been increasing even taking into account node shrinks: GTX 1060 (200mm^2, TSMC 16nm); RTX 2060 (445mm^2, TSMC 14nm); RTX 3060 (276mm^2, Samsung 8nm, which is a die size reduction compared to the RTX 2060, but still an increase compared to the 1060 despite going from TSMC's 16nm to Samsung's 8nm); RTX 4060... -Bigger dies mean more power hungry chips, and Nvidia have been able to stick with 250w max for top GPUs pretty much until the RTX 2000 series, but that was no longer the case with the RTX 3000 series and onwards, with all the implications associated (ATX3.0 and PCIe 5.0 connectors to handle the power increase) -Silicon wafer sizes and dies sizes have physical limits from a production pov (silicon wafers are currently 300mm in diameter, and reticle limit allows for die sizes of ~800mm^2 max), as well as economical limits from a production pov (how much will a RTX 6060 with a +500mm^2 die size cost?) -There's only so much performance gains a new GPU architecture can do at any given node shrink The good news is that what's already out there should be enough for quite a few years, but something will have to radically change eventually...
@xShikari Жыл бұрын
I'd love a 4090, but I built up my first PC in 10+ years with an EVGA 3080ti not too long ago, so I'll wait for the 5000 series and the competition. Hopefully we get the same 4K RT power with much less energy consumption.
@Radgerayden-ist Жыл бұрын
And a more compact form factor
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
Energy consumption is not that bad here, its unlikely to get much better in the future. Physics.
@ShafHussain Жыл бұрын
I also invested in a EVGA 3080Ti equipped machine..it’s a beast!
@Batman-bh6vw Жыл бұрын
The leaks suggest slightly better raster and slightly worse RT performance with lower TDP from RDNA 3.
@darkfire3691 Жыл бұрын
@@Batman-bh6vw slightly worse RT performance? Top RDNA 3 sku targeting 4080 12gb - 4018 16gb RT performance, and 4018 16gb at best case scenario.
@CaptToilet Жыл бұрын
That Portal clip is just further proof that DLSS will always be a necessity if you want 4k quality visuals with RT. Thankfully a lot of games aren't path traced yet otherwise we would be in some biggie trouble
@kickassguy211 Жыл бұрын
No we won't just turn that shit off problem solved
@metacube9913 Жыл бұрын
@@kickassguy211 no
@EarthIsFlat456 Жыл бұрын
"Thankfully a lot of games aren't path traced yet" Do you really think they are gonna start making a lot of games even the most powerful hardware can't handle?
@ilusiil Жыл бұрын
Not true, as Portal doesn't use ray tracing, it uses path tracing which is many times more intensive on performance than RT.
@Quast Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if NVidia at some point uses the DLSS3 software feature to cut down on chip size so the real performance gains only go to the bigger chips for raw performance, which NVidia then most likely, only will use on enterprise level cards... and then the biggest chips you will get in Nvidia consumer graphics cards will be max. 300-350mm²
@Kain3984 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, as always. Kudos to Digital Foundry. The information at 13:32 was especially 'eye-opening' too 🤣
@seydaneen8970 Жыл бұрын
these prices are especially rough in today's economy, I think definitely so for the 4080 and fake 4080. but one thing i do appreciate about nvidia is they continue to push for big gains of GPU power even though they're already best in class performance. I'll almost certainly be picking up another Nvidia card next but I still want to see how RDNA 3 comes out
@DC3Refom Жыл бұрын
I would say they are absolutley diabolicle and ludicrous .
@NoahThomas29 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like CPU’s are gonna need to get a whole heck of a lot faster, This is insane, i love competition!
@zacthegamer6145 Жыл бұрын
Even displays. This can be a 8k card!
@esaedvik Жыл бұрын
@@zacthegamer6145 ...and there's no point in playing anything in 8k.
@mirukuteea Жыл бұрын
@@esaedvik except vr games
@esaedvik Жыл бұрын
@@mirukuteea Probably not, but that remains to be seen. Haven't really seen many AAA VR games yet.
@sapphyrus Жыл бұрын
People just need to hop on to 4K 240Hz displays which already cost less than this card. CPU bottleneck auto-resolved.
@JohnKobylarz Жыл бұрын
I love every time Richard sneaks "streets ahead" into his reviews or analyses, as if it was a common phrase. I appreciate this. I just wanted to acknowledge it.
@gravyboot1830 Жыл бұрын
I was just looking to see if someone else acknowledged it!
@Gamer-q7v10 ай бұрын
The 4090 is a phenomenal GPU. Literally doubles the performance of the 3090 in most ray traced games, and that's referring to raw performance. No upscaling or frame gen.
@kellymoses8566 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if joules per frame will become α common benchmark for video cards in the future.
@kellymoses8566 Жыл бұрын
@@rockapartie i have never seen it before
@meisterwu8922 Жыл бұрын
i love how the "developer test tool" for Cyberpunk could still be mistaken for standard gameplay. especially that hiccup at 12:58
@pudgydaddy Жыл бұрын
The result at 24:43 is HUGE! I can't wait to see what games can do moving forward. Just wow.
@friedpuddycatgamer4682 Жыл бұрын
They won't look much different. While crossgen is still going on. They are not pushing consoles, let alone pc.
@pudgydaddy Жыл бұрын
@@friedpuddycatgamer4682 Patience. The tech needs to be there before it happens. Again, as I said... moving forward...
@IIOctaneII Жыл бұрын
nothings gonna happen as long as cross gen is still going on
@elsienova4269 Жыл бұрын
Tbh this Portal test is the reason why the 4000 series is a complete joke. The video card itself cannot push a 1080p image with RT at more than 20 FPS. The thing that gets it to that 120 Nvidia wants to advertise is just software techniques in DLSS 3, fucking frame generation. A graphics card that is more expensive by itself than a decent PC, that cannot run fucking Portal 2 with some shitty ray tracing at more than 20 fps. What a joke.
@loki76 Жыл бұрын
@@elsienova4269 Wow your ignorance is showing yet you still make a comment. It's NOT RAY tracing. It's PATH tracing. The difference is INSANELY complex and demanding. Might want to educate yourself before spewing BS you have no clue about. The whole game is literally generated by light bounces. Ray tracing as you know it is nothing but Raster + few light bounces to present a Hybrid ray tracing output.
@MewmiNya Жыл бұрын
i want one of these but i feel like finding one would be as hard as trying to find an actual living unicorn in real life
@rowanunderwood Жыл бұрын
Guys, VR has been a thing since March 29, 2013 . . . it's time to start adding a few VR games into the benchies :D
@Myosos Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting if you'd test these massive high end GPUs in VR applications, things like Flight Simulator or Assetto Corsa Competizione, on which the 3000 gen struggles massively compared to pancake games
@TheScyy Жыл бұрын
Hello fellow VR sim master race. vr in racing games is an absolute game changer.
@Myosos Жыл бұрын
@@TheScyy thank you man, what title did you test it with?
@kaybecker Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very good review guys. I actually enjoyed this one more than any other reviews. You did go talk about things you didn’t before and I respect that to the fullest. There was a key moment now for the 4090 that is convincing me that this time around, as expensive as this card is, it makes the games work better across the board without DLSS - that is a HUGE seller for me. Now to wait for the RDNA3 stuff because you never know but if I am to upgrade with NVIDIA this generation, I guess so far it will be this one or when they have the Ti version of it even for extra kicks. THANK YOU for going the extra mile on this review Rich and team. Much respect.
@prav3304 Жыл бұрын
I think it should be noted that DLSS3 isn't quite just adding a "few ms" of input lag and massively improving performance. It's adding that extra few ms vs the base framerate but vs the framerate it's targeting, it's significantly laggier. So for instance a 30FPS game frame generated to 60 will still feel like a bit worse than the same game at 30FPS input latency wise, and while it'd look like 60FPS it won't play like 60FPS. Ofcourse the higher the framerate the lower the impact of it as the differential narrows down.
@DevNug Жыл бұрын
Unless I’m misremembering, it’s adding a few ms to the input lag you’d get from DLSS 2.0, not from the base frame rate. This ends up still being more responsive than native resolution, but slightly less responsive than DLSS 2.0.
@prav3304 Жыл бұрын
@@DevNug But it's significantly less responsive than the framerate it's targeting if it were to run at that framerate natively. If a game has 80ms of lag at 30 FPS and 50ms lag at 60fps. Then using DLSS3 will make it "run" at 60FPS but the input lag will not be anywhere near 50ms, instead it'll be closer to 80ms.
@EDcaseNO Жыл бұрын
yes and yes, as DF said, good framerate health before the DLSS 3 effect is crucial.
@lordspalse0062 Жыл бұрын
Why anyone would even think of dlss 3.0 with a 4090 is beyond me. Just select a native resolution and you can still hit as much as 360fps conveniently with zero drops.
@arsenkay Жыл бұрын
Richard: "In the here and now, there is a new GPU king".
@intetx Жыл бұрын
4K, RTX or VR! Why is everyone forgetting how demanding VR is?!
@Taijifufu Жыл бұрын
Detailed rundown as always. I wonder if in those times when even at 4k it's running in excess of the refresh rate if it's time to use DLDSR with DLSS3.
@SolidBoss7 Жыл бұрын
good question. I'm sure Alex will get to the bottom of that
@user-fg2hh5zl5z Жыл бұрын
me as egyptian watching this while still using gtx 1060 for gamng and using half broken rift cv1 to play vr games
@ArthurM1863 Жыл бұрын
Now we need next gen games. Good ones.
@theoldpcgamer77 Жыл бұрын
Rtx 5000 will be out by then 🤷🏼.
@MrCg006 Жыл бұрын
"Make gaming great again."
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly we have yet to see any Unreal Engine 5 games to release and they alreadly planning on an UE 5.1 soon. While we have some games that were announced to be made using it, including Hellblade 2, we haven't seen any release date to any of them yet. Guess development still take a long time even with all these conveniences to reduce said time.
@vinsta76 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see DLSS 3.0 working with Microsoft Flight sim in VR seeing as it's mostly bottlenecked by the cpu. Those artificial frames could really help smooth things out. Currently I get around 45fps with a fairly even mix of medium, high, and a couple of ultra settings on my Reverb G2 with RTX 3080ti. 4090 is too pricey though. I wont be upgrading until at least next summer when I get my bonus and maybe by then 30 series stock will have depleted leading to a price drop on 40 series?
@madpistol Жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised. The 4090 is a certified beast compared to the 3090. We haven't seen this sort of jump in GPU power from generation to generation in a really long time.
@raresmacovei8382 Жыл бұрын
Since 980 Ti to 1080 Ti basically. Or if you're AMD, from Radeon 7 / 5700 XT to 6900 XT / 6950 XT.
@v0ldy54 Жыл бұрын
that power consumption tho...
@youtubeaccount7544 Жыл бұрын
AMD will beat it with less power and I don’t need fake frames.
@darkfire3691 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeaccount7544 Keep dreaming lmao
@PCGGC Жыл бұрын
yep gonna try to get one tomorrow morning and sell my 3090 for $900
@SnazzyAI Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been showcasing AI based interpolation since 2020, to see it done in realtime rendering is bananas. Hats off to Nvidia. Also can't wait for Nvidia Remix!
@gavinderulo12 Жыл бұрын
But nvidia baaad...
@SnazzyAI Жыл бұрын
@@wizzenberry tv based interpolation is pretty bad. There’s just no comparison between what’s happening here and what TVs do with their interpolation.
@SnazzyAI Жыл бұрын
@@gavinderulo12 lol why is that? Certainly their pricing is high this time. I don’t plan on buying a 4000 series card until maybe the 4060 or 4070 honestly.
@gavinderulo12 Жыл бұрын
@@wizzenberryTV frame interpolation has huge input lag. It just doesn't matter since its not used for interactive media. The fact that nvidia is able to achieve this in real time, with better results, is more than impressive.
@Lead_Foot Жыл бұрын
I got mine and the performance is insane. I'm so frequently CPU limited now even at 5120x1440. I can make pretty good use of my 240Hz refresh rate even in a lot of AAA games. Waiting for my 13900K to ship now to try and alleviate the cpu bottlenecking.
@ludwigstenberg1050 Жыл бұрын
Nice dude
@Chevifier Жыл бұрын
I remember no long ago the 3090 and 3090ti was a beast. Time flies.
@colemin2 Жыл бұрын
2080 ti is a beast
@supergoda6710 Жыл бұрын
We need 8K test!
@krandeloy Жыл бұрын
Really feels like if we continue to get at least half this uplift generation on generation, in two more generations the 6-tier of GPUs will comfortably be getting ~200+ FPS in 4k. I genuinely believe that will happen by or before 2026 and that 4k at 200+ FPS really be a comfortable spot for most of players to stop. That thought makes me really giddy thinking about VR headset resolution potential by then as well.
@krandeloy Жыл бұрын
Reply only to be clear: 6-Tier meaning 7*6*00XT or 40*6*0 to 40*6*0 Ti etc.. Around there.
@1GTX1 Жыл бұрын
I saw comments like this in the past decade.. New Plague Tale game requires RTX3070 for 1080p 60fps, and games are going to get more demanding..
@JordanTelezino Жыл бұрын
you might but before you know it 4k will be obsolete and they will be focusing on 8k or some newer form of tec
@Shieftain Жыл бұрын
23:24 - 23:26 lol I see that Richard is still young at heart with that little quip. You can even hear him stifle a laughter right after too
@Cautious_Gamer Жыл бұрын
I'll say this much, with as advanced as Unreal Engine 5 and these new GPUs are, if developers don't use UE5's Chaos Engine to its full potential, games built with it aren't going to be much more than just visual improvements. Fully physics-based maps/worlds though where nothing's static and everything is destructible or interactable? Now that's revolutionary. I thought we were headed in that direction with the likes of the Red Faction series, but we all know what happened there. All we were left with was the Battlefield series. Just Cause 3-4 were good, but I don't recall being able to affect the environment/map. That needs to change. Not just in First Person Shooters, but in any game really where you have powerful abilities. Even racing games would benefit from fully destructible environments. Imagine crashing, and then instead of abruptly stopping when you hit a wall or fence, you go through it.
@yp5387 Жыл бұрын
Nice. so now we as consumers would have to pay enormous amount of money to buy these cards so game publishers can release their titles without any optimization knowing 40 series cards would run it. no issue.
@Fallen608 Жыл бұрын
Just look at the "requirements" for A Plague Tale 2. A 3070 for 1080/60. Wooow.
@bomberman4046 Жыл бұрын
Or a much more realistic scenario, no new game will use the extra power of those cards, because are just entusiast things, who are pretty rrarre to find, and cost too much to buy, so there is no market for developers.
@panic_diver Жыл бұрын
Dont worry consoles are still the common denominator. Games still need to run at atleast 30 fps on 2070 equivalent console hardware.
@servantes3291 Жыл бұрын
People that will own 4080s and 4090s are in the minority. In general they will optimize for the cards that most people can buy I would imagine because that's where the most money comes from
@-aexc- Жыл бұрын
my 3060ti I got at launch is still doing just fine for my needs luckily.
@paulsholly9863 Жыл бұрын
Richard is the most zen KZfaqr out there right now. Always living in the here and now.
@iau Жыл бұрын
Appreciated the discussion on "fake frames". Yes, it's definitely not "increasing performance", but the end result is indistinguishable from better performance: Higher framerate at good frame pacing. So, does it even matter?
@Fallen608 Жыл бұрын
Input latency is a real thing and even this video mentioned wanted to test it in a fast paced FPS (for example). That latency may well be too much in some scenarios.
@iau Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but if you're playing a fast paced FPS, you likely won't be cranking up settings to the maximum, and you can just disable DLSS3. If you're playing a very demanding 1 player game though a small latency increase doesn't matter.
@marty5300 Жыл бұрын
geez, the raster performance of this thing is insane. Even at lower resolutions like 1440p you still gain 30+ frames.. at 4k with dlss 3 it makes my current 3090 eat shit.. both in and out of RT and with and without dlss 3. Massive gains in performance.
@youtubeaccount7544 Жыл бұрын
Wow 30 frames amazing!
@Stardomplay Жыл бұрын
How does that make you feel?
@marty5300 Жыл бұрын
@@Stardomplay it makes me feel all antsy in my pantsy
@marty5300 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeaccount7544 30+ frames is a big deal going from 30 to 70
@TheMiddleMan890 Жыл бұрын
14:43 Richard “Streets Ahead” Leadbetter 😂
@Gozen Жыл бұрын
Rich saying "Nice" around the, 23:22 mark, made me 😂!
@amj2048 Жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to see what image AI tools will be able to do with this
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
u mean topaz well they still not using the monster 3080 which i got good it needs more updates once that happens yea it will run real good i know cause i did a 30 min cartoon with waifu and it took 10 min whereas topaz with the same one takes 1hr-hr and 30 min
@amj2048 Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman no Open AI, Stable Diffusion, Midjourney, Dall-E and others like that
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@amj2048 oh well should be great these cards are monsters even the one i got 3080
@ShahZahid Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneytheman topaz is much more suited for irl picture, CG etc for cartoons and anime stuff i found ESRGAN with a custom model to be the best but thats for images, the video upscalers use a a whole different methods and algorithms, i.e the results aren't as perfect thats y they are much more lightweight
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@ShahZahid i wasnt comparing i just was saying the speed difference is way better with waifu i expect topaz to run that way once it gets more updates i have always thought that was gonna be the case with these monsters 30 series cards
@meisterwu8922 Жыл бұрын
this card alone uses more watt than my entire rig. maybe even the monitor included.
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
Yeah right, your entire rig uses less than 400 watts? Is your rig a laptop?
@ciaranmurphy594 Жыл бұрын
Richards little chuckle at 23:20 after he says 69 FPS cracked me up. Really wanna know if he wrote that 'Nice' in there or another writer
@5FmUke Жыл бұрын
Between the power requirements and price for these new gpus, it's sustainably unaffordable.
@grandmascreampie5372 Жыл бұрын
Nvidia doesn't give a shit
@johnjames7332 Жыл бұрын
I can afford them
@ShahZahid Жыл бұрын
dont buy it simple, its like iphones, they are expensive af but people still buy them,
@richtheobald4390 Жыл бұрын
Good review! Although why you can't show frame rates and percentages at the same time is beyond me.
@vaggeliskosiatzis5487 Жыл бұрын
I watched many reviews of this GPU and apparently everybody forgets the performance uplift that gtx 1080 ti had over gtx 980 ti while costing 699$... yes, rtx 4090 is quite the thing but a lot less impressive when you factor in the price tag... again, Nvidia's marketing worked wonders in persuading consumers that 1600$ is the norm for a GPU...
@vaggeliskosiatzis5487 Жыл бұрын
@Sorey there are a lot of good options it terms of any other type of hardware except the GPUs… that’s true… maybe the route from now on is used GPUs when the newer gen comes out…
@AFistfulOf4K Жыл бұрын
This card is for paypigs and professionals, everyone else can wait for the cheaper ones. The silicon shortage isn't over, everyone in the business wants to get every dollar they can for the chips they can actually get from TSMC. Same reason AMD won't be rescuing us from high prices: they have a certain amount of silicon to sell and it's going to be made into high-end CPUs first. It's shitty for us but it's good business.
@DivjotSingh Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how you would probably want to wait for a few CPU generations and display technology advancements to actually make good use of the 4090. At that rate, delaying your high end GPU purchase till CPUs catch up might be the most economical option. If you're only going to use 50% of 4090's power by capping frame rate for current and even next gen games, you're essentially sitting on a solution looking for a problem in the, ahem, here and now.
@i3l4ckskillzz79 Жыл бұрын
Makes no sense to me we already have 4k 144hz screens and the 4090 is only cpu bound at 1080 and sometimes at 1440p but the obvious resolution this card is aiming for is 4k so cpu performance doesn't matter mostly...
@DivjotSingh Жыл бұрын
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 I both agree and disagree. Only DP 1.4 has the bandwidth for 4k144, and HDMI 2.1 can only go up to 4k120, these are the two ports 4090 supports. Secondly, we can see that with DLSS3, 4090 can very much provide ~4k200 experience in Spider-Man, a heavy AAA title from 2022, all those extra frames are beyond the display output spec. With optimised settings and engines designed for next gen, who's to say that can't become a norm with DLSS3.
@astrolillo Жыл бұрын
@@DivjotSingh you are just guessing
@DivjotSingh Жыл бұрын
@@astrolillo yes of course
@jcaashby3 Жыл бұрын
I just got a 3080. I'm about to turn 50. I don't see myself ever getting or needing a 4090. it's just overkill for anything im trying to do.
@SkillipEvolver Жыл бұрын
Do you play much?
@UserInterface00 Жыл бұрын
So who’s actually going to buy a 4000 series RTX other than the KZfaqrs/Twitchers and other social media whales? I’ll gladly stick with my PS5 and Series X more than enough to play some of the best games😅😅
@ldmun Жыл бұрын
And those KZfaqrs and streamers will play ONLY online shooters and nothing else and be like "400 fps is too low"
@tomohawkcloud Жыл бұрын
Facts
@tomohawkcloud Жыл бұрын
@@ldmun fr they be wasting they money
@tomohawkcloud Жыл бұрын
This gpu cost a whole college tuition. I’ll gladly pass
@poluticon Жыл бұрын
and most likely those KZfaqrs/Twitchers won't even buy one, Nvidia will give them one for free.
@zZiL341yRj736 Жыл бұрын
Perfect card for an LG C2 full 4K 120hz. I'll see you both in 5 years my friend, I will start saving.
@Sheen334 Жыл бұрын
22:33 What happened to the audio here? 😂 Love the video, keep up the good work.
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
DLSS quality vs performance would be great to see vs native.
@lordadz1615 Жыл бұрын
dlss 3.0 graphically is the same as 2. just with frame generation. so if you look at any video comparing dlss 2.0 it will be the same
@Safetytrousers Жыл бұрын
@@lordadz1615 You can run DLSS 3 without any upsampling.
@lordadz1615 Жыл бұрын
@@Safetytrousers oh i didnt know that lol. i guess if thats the case it would look the same as any other setting ur using
@MazdaChris Жыл бұрын
It'd be great if the frame interpolation was a feature that could be turned on independent of the game engine. It'd be a great way of giving a boost to older games, particularly those which are console ports where things like controls and physics break if you run beyond 60fps. Imagine being able to 'upscale' old 8 and 16 bit games to 120fps. It's such a potentially transformative technology. I'd love to see some analysis though on the inserted frames to see whether there is visible ghosting, artifacting, etc.
@liamness Жыл бұрын
The interpolator does require access to motion vectors and depth information though, would be difficult to hack into older games
@robosergTV Жыл бұрын
it could work not as well when doing 30fps to 60 interpolation
@ardasevmis7583 Жыл бұрын
Buy a samsung tv...
@JohnDoe-lm6or Жыл бұрын
We have made it. Memory bandwidth is no longer in GB/s it’s in TB/s
@asmrdestiny6 ай бұрын
I just got my 4090 FE to be able to stream PC RT titles 👍 can’t wait to see what games in 2024 will utilize RT (Hellblade II is a given so far)
@rasmustagu Жыл бұрын
DLSS 3.0 is by far the most interesting aspect about the card for me.
@fuzzy3932 Жыл бұрын
this is exactly why I want one. I hve a 2080ti and was just going to get a 3090ti as prices are gettign better but now I am goign to wait 6mo-1 year and then upgrade to a 40 series and the reason... DLSS3.0
@kenkusagami Жыл бұрын
@@fuzzy3932 if u can wait for a year ,then u should wait for another year for 5090 to get 8k high refresh rate gaming experience.
@JoeWayne84 Жыл бұрын
And AV1 encoding and decoding…
@math3capanema Жыл бұрын
@@kenkusagami yeah and build a power plant while waiting
@JoeWayne84 Жыл бұрын
@@kenkusagami I’m not sure you will see this much performance gain again in a long time. This was on TSMC 4nm process it’s not going to get much better than this . It’s a absolute astonishing feat of Human engineering.
@razer3183 Жыл бұрын
23:24 Had a good laugh when Richard said NOICE
@GoatOfTheWoods Жыл бұрын
Litrally the best 4090 review all over KZfaq period.
@mirceastan4618 Жыл бұрын
The problem with a "next-generation of games" is that we are not going to get them until the consoles and mid-range cards will be able to run them, too, very few people will actually have a 4090 in their PC so developers may not bother at this moment, and with the way nVIDIA is pricing the whole series, I'd say we're in for a complete AAA market stagnation, which is already filled with stagnation and microtransactions.
@gamingclipz7309 Жыл бұрын
Are you dumb? New gen can run games just as good as mid range pc… so stfu not everyone can afford to spend all their $$ on games 🤦♂️ 🤡
@Fallen608 Жыл бұрын
Very true. The 1650 class of card is still by far the most used card on steam hardware survey. Few developers are going to put themselves in a position where 95% of gamers can't run their game. Nvidia's pricing is so far outside the realm of reality as to be a joke so nobody is upgrading to this shit.
@Bunster Жыл бұрын
graphics settings exist for a reason, compare rdr2 max graphics compared to consoles
@GerardJohnBlazing Жыл бұрын
So still even with the latest and greatest you can't hit 60fps at 4k maxed out, DLSS off?
@servantes3291 Жыл бұрын
I believe it was above 100 FPS in all games except Cyberpunk in the standard Rasterization towards the end. You must mean with Ultra Ray Tracing turned on? I guess you'd be right about that, but it is still better than it was before and will continue to get better over time. RT has only been introduced to gaming in the last few years and it is very demanding by itself. Coupling it with 4k is insane at the moment. It'll get there just give it time!
@GerardJohnBlazing Жыл бұрын
@@servantes3291 Yeah I was referring to Ultra RT on. Quite insane to consider how demanding that feature is. Personally for the asking price for one of these I was expecting the card to hit that performance level, though I guess this signals that they see reconstruction techniques as the future, and it's hard to argue with that. Still a substantial robust improvement over last gen as you mentioned.
@Dusty_617 Жыл бұрын
4K-120fps-RT-ultra graphics. Chefs kiss
@rohanlowe Жыл бұрын
what’s up with the occasional scrambled picture during benchmarks? capture card shenanigans?
@Baykah Жыл бұрын
This is going to sell quite poorly
@math3capanema Жыл бұрын
No, it's gonna sell quite to wealthy
@m.h.4907 Жыл бұрын
Most PC gamers are enthusiasts. Most of them are in their 30s with stable jobs, on top a lot of media creators, cutters etc... This will sell even better than the 3xxx series because they have no competition
@researchandbuild1751 Жыл бұрын
This thing will be gone in like three seconds and become impossible to find for the next year , again
@leruty Жыл бұрын
@@m.h.4907 "Most"? I don´t think so. Proof?
@m.h.4907 Жыл бұрын
@@leruty 4090 FE sold out in less than a minute. Guess that should be proof enough. It is the fastest selling GPU of all time.
@jacooosthuizen3593 Жыл бұрын
Nvidia 1080 user here. :0) Glad i waited i will most likely pic up the 4080ti once it hits then i should be covered for a loooooooooooong time and if i can't then my 1080 is still perfect!
@peckc16 Жыл бұрын
I love how there are still several visual glitches in cyberpunk after 2 years in these short clips alone 😂
@kelownatechkid Жыл бұрын
'streets ahead' @ 14:40 LOL nice
@Saif0412 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for AMD's RDNA 3 chips, hope they also get massive boosts in performance, especially RT performance.
@Dr.Freeze Жыл бұрын
AMD garbage won’t be this good
@tomaslove2398 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Freeze not with that attitude
@fandre5856 Жыл бұрын
If AMD comes 10-15% bellow 4090 with less power consumption for ...lets say 1000$ I'll bite
@Fallen608 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have a 3080 and I'm not planning to upgrade but I would like to see AMD's chiplet design significantly lower prices. Nvidia just wants consumers to fund their AI ventures at this point.
@Stef3m Жыл бұрын
@@Fallen608 That's simply ridiculous, their "AI venture" finance itself pretty well and offers way higher margins for them, now people have even to come up with stupid argument to complain...
@rcadenow7543 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive card, but Will wait for the next card in 2024...and like everyone said before, pricing is really an issue. most of us doesnt are modern salves that doesnt earn much at all, and with the pricy cost of just living, its hard to buy something like this.
@coolkev1701 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine what the 5090 will do in a couple of years...
@MisterPikol Жыл бұрын
perfect little heater for the upcoming winter
@barebarekun161 Жыл бұрын
The Next Level In Electricity Bills too. This thing is like new Taylormade driver that comes out every year I always roll my eyes after I saw one announced and said "Well at least now I can get 2019 model for reasonable price"
@APhamx7 Жыл бұрын
If you reduce the power by 33% to 300w it only reduces performance by 5%
@danieltaju9311 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review !! Just a correction, at timestamp 3min:08s of the video. " A Gigabyte per second of memory bandwidth " 1018GB/s is actually aproximately a Terabyte per second of memory bandwidth.