Nvidia RTX 4080 Super RUINS The 80 Class FOREVER! Wait For RTX 50 Series & AMD Price DROP?

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5 ай бұрын

🚀 Welcome back to the channel, everyone! In today's video, we dive deep into the recent release of the RTX 4080 Super and the mixed bag of opinions surrounding it. Priced at $1000, this high-end GPU promises a boost in performance, but does it live up to the hype? We'll dissect benchmarks, discuss the minimal improvements, and explore whether the "Super" branding is justified. Is it a worthwhile upgrade, or should you consider alternative options? Join the conversation as we navigate through the intricacies of the RTX 4080 Super, revealing the truth about its value in the ever-evolving graphics card landscape. Stick around for an unbiased review, as we tackle the crucial question: Should you invest in the RTX 4080 Super, or is it time to wait for the next-gen 50 series? Let's get right into it! 🔍💻 #RTX4080Super #GPUReview #TechTalk 🎮
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@kathrynck 5 ай бұрын

I'd argue that the 35% gap from 4080 to 4090, and $1200 price, ruined the 80-class. The 4080 "super" is just an underwhelming band-aid on the price part.

@jerrycurls88 5 ай бұрын

$999 (before tax) to play games... no thanks. i capped it at 500. Thats quite a chunk of money already. Whatever 500 gets me when it's time to upgrade will be what I'm going with.

@DenverStarkey 5 ай бұрын

with me it all really depends on what my total system budget is. currently saving for a target of 3000 bucks looking to go from 4tb ssd/hdd space to 12 tb ssd-only space so the Ssd's alone are gonna run me 600 for three 4TB SSDs . i'm super tired of juggling what is installed between im current 2TB SSD and my 2TB HDD. so given my 3000 dollar budget a video card between $800-1000 in cost is not rediculous or unreasonable. however , i hate how nvidia has worked to control the market and mind share of consumers and industry workers alike. So more and more i'm looking to AMD and itnel to what they are bringing for 2024.

@nabilbaroudi5457 5 ай бұрын

hey bro, if you need a lot of storage, just buy external drive for work and ur 2 ssd just for video games u playing, its bad to have too many m2 ssd in computer, sometimes its desactivate some pcie lane. Take care@@DenverStarkey

@jerrycurls88 5 ай бұрын

@@DenverStarkey it's a value thing for me. I can buy a 4090 but never would. 500 for a gpu is reasonable in my eyes. Everyone's got a different threshold. Don't see the need when I can get high fps on my 1440p monitor. Anything more is point of diminishing returns for me. BTW, 2023 was a great year to buy ssds/nvme. Prices starting to creep back up now. Good luck with your build.

@tomtomkowski7653 5 ай бұрын

Skip it" generation. To pay 43% more money over the $700 3080 10GB to get a 50% uplift just doesn't make sense. Soon this kind of performance will be available for ~$700 with the 5070 and then this will make sense where for the same $700 people will get a ~50% performance uplift. The $1000 price tag for an 80-class card is just absurd that Nvidia is pushing more and more with each generation. 1080 was $600, 2080 and 3080 were $700. And don't tell me about fake excuses like inflation because you don't see it in other markets like monitors, CPUs, SSDs, or even the 4090 itself $100 over the 3090. And don't tell me about another fake excuse like "expensive TSMC" First. The 4080's chip is 40% smaller than the 3080's chip Second: The chip for the 3080 is 630mm. with $6k per wafer, the chip costs $80 The chip for the 4080 is 380mm. even with $18k per wafer, the chip costs $132 Even if TSMC would be 3x more expensive (and is not) the difference in cost of the chip would be $50 - not $500. xx80 for $1000 is just nuts. Nvidia just made from the 4090 a Titan class card and from the 4080 the xx90 class card in terms of pricing. This is beyond greed and nothing else. No wonder this market is dying and most games are created for consoles and then poorly ported to PCs because even devs don't care about this market anymore. Sad reality.

@killerrf 5 ай бұрын

You have no idea what the 50 series will deliver.

@squirrelsinjacket1804 5 ай бұрын

just waiting for the 50 series at this point

@Jeremy-WC 5 ай бұрын

I don't think they can charge $700. The 4070 did not sell ok until it got a $50 price cut. we will have to see how the 4070 super sells but $500-600 seems to be one of the price walls for customers.

@tomtomkowski7653 5 ай бұрын

@@killerrf Yes sure we don't know what the 50xx series will deliver but... 1070 > 980, 2070 > 1080, 3070 > 2080, 4070 Super > 3080 so we can assume that the 5070 > 4080 or at least quite close.

@erutherford 5 ай бұрын

@@Jeremy-WC While it won't happen I honestly think [for the consumer] the prices at the top end [4080 & 7900 XTX] need to be a couple of hundred dollars lower and that's what it would take to pull me into the market. I wouldn't be surprised if I try to hold off TWO generations and check back for the RTX 60 / AMD 9XXX series.

@Ninjutsu2K 5 ай бұрын

I have an AMD RX 580 8GB, and I am buying an RTX 4080 Super in the next few days here in Brazil. Because of the reduced price and the avalanches of the super series here and because of the desirable prices from AMD on 7800 XT, 7900 XT, and even 7900 XTX, the price of 4080 S is insanely attractive even though it is pricier than AMD contrapart. Still, because I will have to use this card for Stable Diffusion and DaVinci Resolve Studio, I will choose the 4080 Super because of the high compatibility and insane performance on IAs, but sure, If you already have a not-so-old card, I believe is better to get a 4070 TS or wait the next series.

@Jaykurosakii 5 ай бұрын

If you can find a lightly used or open box 4080 for under $900 I would get it over a 4080 super. Only like 1-2 fps difference.

@aHungiePanda 5 ай бұрын

nah. I'd pay an extra $100 for the all black elegence of the 4080 Super FE. I've been keeping an eye on restock sites to pick up an FE

@selohcin 4 ай бұрын

Forget that! Either buy from AMD or wait for next generation. You'd be a damn fool to buy cards at these prices!

@aHungiePanda 4 ай бұрын

@@selohcin I may be a fool, but at least I'm not a broke fool cus I got me a 4080 Super FE

@Valkian24 5 ай бұрын

The pricing for the 4080 Super is $200-300 more in Australia than the standard model, which was already at a steep price. So definitely not the best value for those who are coming from a previous generation and was hoping for a better performance lift, especially in terms of pricing. That said, I still went for the standard 4080 as someone who has been stuck with a 1080ti for many years and while it has done fine, it's starting to show it's limitations. But still, Nvidia needs to do better and I feel like the price would have been acceptable if they gave the Super variant an extra 4GB of VRAM but I guess that would have made too much sense.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I just upgraded from 1080 Ti to 4080 16gb for $920 USD brand new equivalent in Australia. To me it is worth it for sure.

@imyournme6632 5 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh Same. And it was time the legend has to be put aside.

@michaelthompson9798 5 ай бұрын

Yes, all the Super variants in Australia have been on averages $100’s more expensive than the non-Super models. It’s ridiculous to see and just greed! It doesn’t costs more than $20 or so to ship the gpus to here so it’s not inflation to blame.

@archangelgaming8077 5 ай бұрын

got mine for 999$

@hawkinsjd11 5 ай бұрын

No longer planning on upgrading my 3080 FTW3

@DAG42085 5 ай бұрын

you don't need it

@neti_neti_ 5 ай бұрын

Very well said "Skip it" , This is a Skip it Generation 👏👏👏

@tonicardoso380 5 ай бұрын

This is depends. whats ur gen gpu? And whats u play, whats u wait. whats u want? Is huge things between rtx, games and nex gen.

@Jeremy-WC 5 ай бұрын

The issue on this is the timing yes we are awhile out from the 5070 which I expect to match the 4080 at a minimum but in 6 to 9 months we will have a 8800xt from AMD that will probably almost match that 4080 in raster for $500 or $600 at the max. The refresh NVIDIA brought is great for people that need to upgrade but it does nothing to make you want to.

@wendyhubble1383 5 ай бұрын

I was going to upgrade my 3080 Ti but it seems like I should wait or get a 4090.

@hannibal-9648 5 ай бұрын

I don’t have a pc and was thinking of getting the 4080 super thoughts?

@SynicGaming 5 ай бұрын

I have it and it works great but the price point is pretty high. You have to go full am5 with a 7800x3d for it to really shine though so at the end of the day thats like 2.5g on a gaming PC.

@RagingGrinch-TechGaming 3 ай бұрын

I was able to pick up a 4090 FE edition last week, doing my first gaming build this weekend switching from console gaming. I was going to wait for the 50 series, but those things will be well over 3k because they’ll be sold out due to scalpers then resold for insane price tag. We won’t be able to get one day one by the time I get my hands on one it’ll prob be end of 2025. So I’ll enjoy my 4090 as long as it doesn’t melt like others have reported, until I can get a 5090 I’ll enjoy the hell out of the 4090.

@ToneRetroGaming 5 ай бұрын

I bought my 3070 at MSRP in Jan 2021 and needed something that would allow me to use raytracing and DLSS in games at 1440p and 4K. I picked up a 4080 Super from Micro Center this past Wed at MSRP and I'm happy with it. Yeah, it's probably not the best value even though it's cheaper than the original 4080 but I got what I needed.

@wonderduck2345 5 ай бұрын

Hell man, i paid 1200 for my little cheese grater msi 4080 super expert and i love it. It looks so much better than the triple fans and i have YET to see it hit 70C+. I may not ever see it till i buy a 4k monitor. 1440p ultra on any game i play and usually runs around 65c.

@ToneRetroGaming 5 ай бұрын

@@wonderduck2345 Exactly! A have a 1440p monitor and a lot of games I play I have to play at 4k to fill out the GPU. I don't regret my purchase and I almost pulled the trigger on your GPU! Those things are beautiful Micro Center had that model a guy ahead of me picked one up.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 5 ай бұрын

Also want to add that the RTx 4080 super loses one memory and power phase (At least on the FE model)

@MafiosoDon21 5 ай бұрын

Glad I sold my 4080 for a 4090. Before the China ban

@XMG3 5 ай бұрын

I bought the TUF 4080 super at MSRP, I just successfully nvflashed it to the Strix OC 420W from 350W power limit. Nvidia reduced the power limit /VRM limit for the 4080 super, hence it perform worse than some of the original 4080. By applying the strix 420W vbios to it, that's the power dealt with. The VRM design on the ASUS Noctua 4080 is Vishay SIC639 DrMOS rated for 50A max, while the TUF 4080 super has Vishay SIC654A DrMOS rated for 50A with max burst mode of 70A. So technically spec wise, my TUF 4080 super should now perform better than any 4080. Anyway my undervolt/overclock settings at 900mV - 2570Mhz runs full load of 51°C stable. I'm pretty happy with it and don't plan to upgrade for at least 8 years. Word of warning tho, I am not responsible if you brick your GPU with a vbios flash.

@WhatsupwSully 4 ай бұрын

have been patiently awaiting the 50 series release as my 2080Ti Extreme is still holding it's own. It's not letting me play 4k / 120htz max setting but I don't expect it too. I know the 5090 will most likely be first and this gen I'm just going to buy it and try and not even look at the price. I'm getting 2-3 generations out of my last card and I expect the same with this card. Then 2000$ dosen't hurt that much. 3-4 years gaming at high setting is all I want and I'm sure this new 50 series will deliver that.

@aeneasoftroy9706 5 ай бұрын

Damn I was able to grab a 4090 at msrp the start of this generation. Seems like the market really hasn't been getting better.

@squirrelsinjacket1804 5 ай бұрын

Was that online or in a store? The bots/scalpers swallowed up pretty much the entire stock of 4090s until they became more widely available around Jan/Feb 2023...

@aeneasoftroy9706 5 ай бұрын

@squirrelsinjacket1804 it was on Newegg, I got the msi gaming version. Indeed, they all were gone pretty fast. But it wasn't like the past, where it was up for a second, then gone lol I saw stock available for roughly an hour or so before it was all sold out.

@kathrynck 5 ай бұрын

I did too. I wasn't explicitly looking to get one... but it was right there on the shelf at microcenter at msrp, whispering sweet nothings in my ear...

@aeneasoftroy9706 5 ай бұрын

@kathrynck I was looking to upgrade my 2080 super. I upgraded to an LG g2 oled and need a lot more gpu power. The 4090 seemed to be the only thing capable of running my display.

@alchemystn2o 5 ай бұрын

I got mad lucky picked up the PNY 4090 $1649 in 4/2023 at the local BestBuy. Glad I pulled the trigger.

@opfreak 5 ай бұрын

I have a 4070 with 5800x3d not saying im estatic with its ptf but im set 1440p for the next 2-3 years. Might just wait till 60 series💀.

@r1yamahamini 5 ай бұрын

__ I bought one even though they cost from $1240 usd here in Australia . . . It cost me $1430 usd for the Strix though ㄟ( ▔, ▔ )ㄏ

@Zombie101 5 ай бұрын

Skip this generation completely

@kof2 5 ай бұрын

If you are getting the 4080 super, just get the MSRP version. All the OC version are just out to get your money with a 0.5 to 1 % uplift 😂

@Nicc93 5 ай бұрын

xtx is cheaper than 4080 super in Canada, the xtx is also faster in alot of games for native performance

@Nicc93 5 ай бұрын

24gb vram will benefit alot of people not just for gaming

@c-tothefourth4879 5 ай бұрын

@@Nicc93incorrect.

@mechadeka 5 ай бұрын

@c-tothefourth4879 Wow cool non-argument, child.

@csx4402 5 ай бұрын

Thats probably why a good number of the 3090s and 4070 TI supers are disappearing from Ebay. I wanted one of those cards so I can send my 3060 12gb to reserve but it's like going to war to get one. There is an Ebayer buying up 3090s left and right (8728 and counting is reviews). I lost to him at least 5+ times. At this point I may just go with the 4070 TI super when prices stabilize.

@streamdungeon5166 5 ай бұрын

The moment 4080 super hit the market, I bought a regular 4080 PC at 900 bucks for the card as system builders were instantly dropping prices to get rid of stock :D

@christopherjames9843 5 ай бұрын

At least it doesn't have DDR4 lol!

@Tubes78 5 ай бұрын

All the super cards flopped in the Netherlands except this one, sold out and now the 4080 non super is more expensive than ever. Supply of the 4080s was low to begin with.

@zoopfvisualeffects4721 5 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter buy now or not. You buy now, next year your GPU is outdated. This is so stupid. I remember when the 1080 Ti was such a big deal that the 20 series weren't worth buying until the 30 series came through. Then, the 40 series came out of nowhere and just blew the 30 series out of the water. So the 20 series should have been the 30 series and the 40 series the soon to be 50 series. This is so stupid. I still have the 1080 Ti with the i7 8700k and because of the updated upscaling for the 1080 Ti, I can literally play almost every video games at high resolution 60 plus fps at 1440p as a back up PC in the living room. And in the man cave I have the latest i7 with the 3080 and it runs everything I want very well including gaming but I wanted the 3080 ti but at the time couldn't find it. Then the 40 series came out of nowhere and have dlss 3.0 and FG. And, I was really thinking do I wanna upgrade but then the 50 series are just around the corner. You see how stupid this is. You don't even have the chance to enjoy your card and it is already absolute. Out of all of the cards, the 1080 Ti card is the one that still holds its true value for me and the black sheep card that came out of Nvidia.

@mathspodethemighty3484 5 ай бұрын

yeah still rocking my 1080ti, its still a beast even in 2k , i want to upgrade my monitor to a 38 inch 3440*1600 so or 32 4k .. but the 1080ti wont cut it to my liking, so either i wait for the 5000 series or get the stupid overpriced 4080 super.. 16gig of vram is barely enough for 4k imo so though choice 4070ti super is best choice but still 20% less performance

@zoopfvisualeffects4721 5 ай бұрын

@mathspodethemighty3484 Always keep that card as it will always do amazing. In 2024 it still does extremely well so the card speaks well for itself. When the 50 series come, my 3080 card will be officially absolute. I will buy the 5080 Ti but until then I'll enjoy my 1080 Ti and use my 3080 until it becomes absolete.

@c-tothefourth4879 5 ай бұрын

@@mathspodethemighty3484incorrect

@CaneezyBaby 5 ай бұрын

@@c-tothefourth4879 yep true, I got the i7-8700k and a 1080ti and no where it can be a beast in 1440P (2K). Lot of games I need to hit low graphics to just play weith reasonable FPS.

@DenverStarkey 5 ай бұрын

at amazon and newegg a-holes are already trying to charge $1200-1500 for the 4080 supers. only place i've seen them at MSRP is best buy and they are sold out there. also of note , the only card that did see a reasonable uplift in ability , is also the one card they choose to keep knee capped with just 12gb vram. bassically forcing gamers that want 4k RT gaming to have to either A) rely on dlss , or B spend more money for the 4070ti super or the 4080 super. it's a complete up-sale of their software to the industry , and their more expensive hardware to the consumers. it's nvidia trying to control, the market in multiple ways.

@mattparsons8598 5 ай бұрын

These videos completely ignore the fact that not everyone upgrades when new GPU's come out. People upgrade when they can afford to do so / when it works in their lives. Not everyone can time that with the next GPU release. This whole just sit around and wait a year doesn't work if you need new HW now. For people in this position a 4080 costing 200 less is a good thing, should it have been this price all along? Yeah - no shit. I don't like nvidia's business, but giving us a price cut is a good thing and here in Canada it's put the 4080S and XTX in direct price competition with one another when previously the XTX was 300-400 cheaper.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I just upgraded from 1080 Ti to 4080 16gb for $920 USD brand new equivalent in Australia. To me it is worth it for sure.

@spicywater1494 5 ай бұрын

True this, people act like people buying these cards are going to buy a gpu every time a new one comes out

@juanford55 5 ай бұрын

they should had at least the msrp of the 30 series or near of it, 499$ for the 4070, 599$ for the 4070 Ti, 699$ for the 4080... this is just a cheaper 4080 wich still overpriced, shame this is turning into the new norm.

@arenzricodexd4409 5 ай бұрын

Samsung give nvidia quite a deal for those 8nm wafer. The reality for gpu is ugly. People want price to stay the same like it was a decade ago but wafer price has been going up very significantly from gen to gen. Many people complaing about 4060Ti price at $400 unlike 1060 ($250) but if gpu price are going up in linear fashion to wafer price increase over the years 4060Ti will have starting price of $1000. There are reasons why AMD end up using 6nm (which is another variant of 7nm) instead of 5nm for their 7600XT.

@juanford55 5 ай бұрын

@@arenzricodexd4409 i can understand or accept that now is more expensive, maybe the fabrication process or chips or even inflation, but what worries me is that, prices going up and up, cuz this could end up making the GPUs imposible to purchase for most of the people, i just wish at least the prices stoped to rise at some point.

@arenzricodexd4409 5 ай бұрын

@@juanford55 that is everyone's hope. but as i said the reality of GPU market is ugly. it is expensive venture. if GPU maker rely solely on gamer to buy those GPU it did not generate that much revenue. intel at one point able to generate 16 billion from their CPU business alone. nvidia owns over 80% of discrete GPU market and yet their gaming revenue usually did not even break 2 billion. that's why legit GPU maker that still exist today like ARM, Imagination and Qualcomm are not interested to enter pc discrete GPU market.

@johernandez266 5 ай бұрын

Shrink-flation in GPU's just like food and drink. lol

@hoopaholic1982 5 ай бұрын

Just my thought, there are “suckers” out there like me that already bought into the 40 series, and would be minimal benefit from buying the 4080 super… but when the next generation doesn’t really improve on what some of us have bought, the 40 super series may end up being a deal!

@zdspider6778 5 ай бұрын

It will never be a "deal" as long as you keep encouraging them to sell at these prices. You're part of the problem. You encouraged them with your wallet. Some Nvidia exec out there is rubbing his hands looking at the sales statistics and going like "See, I told you guys that $600 for a 70-class card was a good idea!". 😠 And the 4070 is not even a real 70-class, it's a 60-class. *The real 70-class is now $800.* _Nvidia, the way you're meant to be played._

@victorsegoviapalacios4710 5 ай бұрын

You get it, "Muh skip until next gen" is retarded, in that case you will never upgrade

@squirrelsinjacket1804 5 ай бұрын

@@zdspider6778Nvidia doesn't care, they're making money hand over fist with their AI cards lol

@plasmahvh 5 ай бұрын

@@zdspider6778 how is 4070 not a 70-class. what does 70 class even mean? it means absolutely nothing

@zdspider6778 5 ай бұрын

@@plasmahvh How? 🤨 Bruh, where have you been for the last year? The "4070" uses AD106 die (typically used in the 60-class), has a smaller die size (typically found in a 60-class), smaller power consumption (typical of a 60-class), smaller PCB size (like how a 60-class has), less bandwitdh, less CUDA cores, less everything. Everything just screams 60-class. The "4070 SUPER" is a 60Ti, and *the real 70-class is now $800.*

@navisoul-oi8mo 5 ай бұрын

Stop buying GPUs and you will see good prices next gen. Simple as that. Stupid gamers buying expensive GPUs are making it difficult even to afford a 6600XT.

@arenzricodexd4409 5 ай бұрын

Not going to happen. Both AMD and nvidia already expecting gamer to buy less gpu going forward. Just look at one of AMD initial marketing when they launch 7900. They talk about running pro application on their gaming GPU. For discrete gpu market that segment is growing while sales from gamer only will keep shrinking. Nvidia already got this segment covered long time ago. The pricing we see on nvidia gpu with 40 series counting the "value" of those cards for semi pro market. 4060Ti 16GB? terrible product in the eyes of gamer but for semi pro folks it is a steal because they can get something similar to A4000 at 1/3 or even 1/4 of the cost. Just look at nvidia gaming revenue. Despite all the talk about how 40 series are dusting on store shelves and price are below MSRP nvidia gaming revenue are at record level. Over 2 bil of revenue? Nvidia gaming revenue in the past never cross 2 billion mark unless there are crypto craze.

@stanislavkimov2779 5 ай бұрын

People can use a 500$ and below GPU to play comfortable in 1440p without RT. Or if they want a 4K TV, just get a console. Overpaying for 4K RT ultra PC games is stupid now. People are being taken advantage of.

@amatesdarkas9621 5 ай бұрын

We belive when rtx 3070 is more good than 2080 ti is valuable save interest upgrade

@stanislavkimov2779 5 ай бұрын

In Austria I see 4080 super for 1150 euro. With no performance boost comparing with 4080. I expected 8-10% extra power for 1000 euro (which is an awful deal still, should have been no more than 800). Thank you Nvidia, you persuaded me to buy a PS5. I hope everyone else is also not buying this gen GPUs and next gen will have to improve. I will keep my GTX 1070 for now. Plenty of old games and indies still.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I just upgraded from 1080 Ti to 4080 16gb for $920 USD brand new equivalent in Australia. To me it is worth it for sure.

@apexalcalode5842 5 ай бұрын

Just upgraded from a 2070S to 4080S and cannot be happier. Going away from your narrative, I knew exactly what I was buying. What people should be asking themselves, am I going to be playing in 2K or 4K. If 2K, then the 4070S. If 4K, then the 4080S. Its the 4070 TI S that finds itself in a weird place. Not a place where I wanted to put my money.

@stanislavkimov2779 5 ай бұрын

You forgot AMD cards. They are cheaper and better for the price, if you don't pursue having RT in several games that support it.

@apexalcalode5842 5 ай бұрын

@@stanislavkimov2779 Didn't even consider AMD this time around. Nvidia has a hardware code advantage that will only become more prevalent down the road. Been around long enough to know the brute force approach to competing with Nvidia doesn't work out.

@stanislavkimov2779 5 ай бұрын

@@apexalcalode5842 if you don't need RT, AMD is objectively a better choice. It's as simple. I'm afraid thanks to mindsets like yours Nvidia keeps producing bad value for high price, knowing people will still buy it.

@mechadeka 5 ай бұрын

You could have bought a 7900 XT or XTX lmao

@apexalcalode5842 5 ай бұрын

@@mechadeka See my post above regarding AMD. Maybe in two or three generations when I will again be looking for a video card, they will have something worth investing in.

@R6ex 5 ай бұрын

Will wait for 5090.

@AndreiHristow 5 ай бұрын

There is something special. Sorry SUPER The new attractive price for stores to sell the same product as new

@prospect2664 5 ай бұрын

4080 S and 7900xtx costs the same here. (1.2-1.3k €) 4080S is 1.2-0.4% better then 7900xtx and easily 10%+ better with RT (techtesters 40game review) So no... 4080 is an great buy, because 4090 is 1k more expensive...

@prospect2664 5 ай бұрын

Also.... the most expensive 4070 ti S is more expensive then 4080 S cheapest gpu....

@stanislavkimov2779 5 ай бұрын

4080 super is 150 euros more expensive than 7900 XTX where I live. Also 7900 XTX has a better raster performance, more VRAM and bigger memory bus. 4080 is paying more for a weaker card, to have RT.

@prospect2664 5 ай бұрын

@@stanislavkimov2779 yhea, the price varies a lot in EU.. Also naah, 4080S is faster in 1440p and 4k, check techtesters new vid about 4080S. 24GB doesnt mean anything... just look at 7900xt... its 20GB, but a few % slower then 4080S

@TheBeard147 5 ай бұрын

current 4080 super should have been day 1 release standart 4080. At this point there is no reason to pay such crazy amount of money for 2 year old tech

@scarfaceReaper 5 ай бұрын

If this card came in as $900 and in a few months drop down to $800 it would've been better

@lilpain1997 5 ай бұрын

Here in the UK AMD hasn't bothered to drop the 7900xtx at all so its literally the same price or 50 less than the 4080 super. Cant lie for that price its just not worth it at all, for either of them its piss poor. The 7900xtx competes with 80 class and the more games you throw at them they eventually equal out to being a slight % either or direction... 24GB VRAM is quite literally useless as well and I would rather just get the better RT, feature set and much lower power draw. Its actually so sad how the 80 class was always around the 500 to 700 MSRP mark and suddenly it jumps to 1000. AMD aren't even bothered about competing either.

@worldtownfc 5 ай бұрын

Jensen Huang wants to price super high-end gaming GPUs as psuedo-Quadro GPUs. NVIDIA is selling the AD102 die in the Quadro RTX 5000 Ada for $4500 vs. $1200 RTX 4080/$1000 RTX 4080 Super. Jensen Huang will drive prices up to harvest more profits before the AI demand levels off with more competitors jumping into the market. He might moderate his price inflation on mainstream GPUs like the 5060, but the 5070 and up will be priced higher especially if they deliver 20% performance gains vs. their predecessors. AMD and/or Intel can drive down prices with extremely competitive next gen cards, but if they fail, NVIDIA will have complete freedom to shift prices upward. We might get halo Titan cards again for $2500+. Then again, NVIDIA sells $30k-$40k AI GPUs in a red hot AI arms race, so NVIDIA can absorb sales volume losses from high gaming card prices.

@plasmahvh 5 ай бұрын

yep. ad102 selling for less than $1500 is foolish

@ehenningsen 5 ай бұрын

Running stable diffusion on the 4090 is mind blowing 🤯

@DenverStarkey 5 ай бұрын

well they are working off a "at-loss" mentality too .. that is where a company views making one product a financial loss , because it takes resources that could be maiking a more expensive product. in Nvidia's mind EVERY gpu they make is made at a significant loss of 30k+ because that gaming silicon takes up "order space" of AI chips. they see it as "we need to charge more for gpu's becasue even at 2000 dollars that 4090 is a 30k+ loss because we could have made a 32, 35, or 38k AI chip with taht silicon order." this mentality also puts them in danger of viewering their gaming customers as "the enemy" because we demand they makes these "at loss" chips and we also demand they make them cheaper (aka at an even bigger loss) . the at-loss mentality is a greed trap for a company. and it will eventually bite them in the ass. because eventually they'll price themselves just too damn high period. quite frankly i'm stil not decided ratehr i'll skip nvidia's 4000 series or not, but i've already mad my mind up i'm not ever getting the 5000 , 6000 or waht ever siereis that follow. AMD and itnel are both cooking up new ways to handle ray tracing (and path tracing) taht will make their cards much faster at RT than they currently are. nvidia did not invent RT ,. they mearly were first to come with a way to do it in real time , and even that was them buying up a company that had planed to release a Real-time RT only card. eventually they will be matched or beaten at the RT game. because RT is not propriety , just their way to handle it is.

@tonicardoso380 5 ай бұрын

4080s is better price; Are too stupidy say: "ruins" 80 cards. 200 buckets less is a good trade for me. IF u have a 2080super. I thing is a good trade.

@eclypse1259 5 ай бұрын

Get the new one with your 5% cash back credit card, and bam $950 and your done.

@mkatakm 5 ай бұрын

Price is super.

@GroundGame. 5 ай бұрын

Lol, just get a 4070Ti Super😊

@justindressler5992 5 ай бұрын

3nm vs 4nm won't add much but cost. The 50 series will be delayed because performance gains will be minimum the top end may drop in price though like the 4090 may be less than 1200 USD.

@derherr8498 5 ай бұрын

lol there's no way the 4090 will be going for less than 1200 within the next year or two.

@DenverStarkey 5 ай бұрын

nvidia is not aiming for rasterization performance gains with the 5000 series. the 5000 series will likely feature many more rt cores and i don't expect cuda core count will go up much if at all. but we will likely see a huge leap in RT cores. they are looking to crush every one in RT . AMD and itnel both have said theya re coming up with new ways to calculate RT that'll make their chips much faster at it . this beleive it or not likely scares nvidia , so they'll likely brute force RT on the 5000 series via more rt cores.

@justindressler5992 5 ай бұрын

@@DenverStarkey I'm not convinced to add more RT cores they need more transistor density. But maybe if they remove some of there shader cores then they can make space. But this will impact every game ever made apart for the handful of games that use ray tracing.

@TizzaOG 5 ай бұрын

I hate Nvidia but i love the cards.

@ehenningsen 5 ай бұрын

Got a 4090. Will get a 5090. AMD and NVIDIA are overpriced. But what can you do? Not game? 😂 I also use the GPU for upscaling and hdr live content, i also use the dual encoders for VR and run stable diffusion. So really, only NVIDIA can do the job.

@Kryptic1046 5 ай бұрын

"But what can you do? Not game?" Don't be talkin' crazy!

@spicywater1494 5 ай бұрын

People don't consider when it comes games that is that people play vr games and Nvidia gpus are much better at vr stuff than amd

@captainculpeper1250 5 ай бұрын

Rtx 4080 super SCALP!

@christopherjames9843 5 ай бұрын

Nvidia and AMD doing their best to drive people away from PC gaming. Real smart long term strategy.

@arenzricodexd4409 5 ай бұрын

It only drives away the enthusiast that like to get high end gpu every generation. Most pc gamer are fine.

@spicywater1494 5 ай бұрын

Don't buy the most expensive gpus like what are you crying for?

@mdmoore1984 5 ай бұрын

all the fools who bought the 4080 super which is sold out showed nvidia that they're ok with an 80 class gpu being $1000 so now expect the next gen 80 class to be that same $1000

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I just upgraded from 1080 Ti to 4080 16gb for $920 USD brand new equivalent in Australia. To me it is worth it for sure.

@arenzricodexd4409 5 ай бұрын

Some of them buy the gpu for their job. It is significantly cheaper than have to buy true pro gpu like A5000 for them. The semi pro market are growing. The fact that nvidia coming out with something like Studio Drivers they pretty much admit the existence of this segment rather than try to push them all out to buy full professional grade gpu. Right now geforce pricing no longer priced with gamer only in mind but also those semi pro. And going forwars they probably end up buying more gpu than gamer itself. Even AMD are aware about this hence their initial marketing with 7900 also highlighting running some pro apps on those gpu which is something they never really did before.

@mdmoore1984 5 ай бұрын

@@arenzricodexd4409 guess ill be priced out of the market soon then cuz i cant imagine paying $1000 for a decent card every 4 years or s. i didnt even like paying $620 for my 6950xt but my 1660 super wasnt cutting it anymore

@spicywater1494 5 ай бұрын

Guess what 😊 DON'T BUY 1K GPUS AND YOU WILL BE FINE

@NGreedia 5 ай бұрын

4080 should have been $800 which is still $100 more than the 3080 and they would still have been profiting a lot. $1000 is still a 42% price hike for around the same amount of performance uplift which negates any improvement in performance per cost

@victorsegoviapalacios4710 5 ай бұрын

You want everything for free

@Eric-ct2ri 5 ай бұрын

@@victorsegoviapalacios4710 yes 800$ is free huh... its 100$ more than the highest ever x80 was prior. its not free its reasonable. nvidia are being especially greedy ever since mining and scalpers showed up.

@Dexion845 5 ай бұрын

@@Eric-ct2ripre-covid inflation prices are never coming back again. The quicker we accept this the quicker we can move on. All I know is the internet says it's over priced at $999 however I cannot purchase one at this price today.

@Eric-ct2ri 5 ай бұрын

@@Dexion845 hell no never accept it. in this case accepting and moving on gives nvidia the green light to keep jacking up prices soo NO i will not accept it.

@Dexion845 5 ай бұрын

@@Eric-ct2ri I hear you man but neither you or I can buy a 4080 S right now at MSRP. Also TSMC keeps getting more and more expensive as the node gets smaller and smaller. I wish we could just get new tech at pre-inflation prices too.

@OceansUnknownwithToddKortte 5 ай бұрын

Nobody expected better performance! Duh! Its $200 less for a slightly better card! Why can't you figure that out?....... This is a stupid video.

@mechadeka 5 ай бұрын

Is it better or not?

@MARKXHWANG 5 ай бұрын

the only thing got ruided is your brain

@zdspider6778 5 ай бұрын

The 1080 was $599. Adjusted for inflation for 2022 (when the 4080 was released), it should have been $730. But memory is cheap, so a something like $699 would've been "fair". Ngreedia went full "r-word" with $1200. Even a cool _thou_ is too much, for a single PC component. *The 1080Ti was $699.* Arguably the best GPU they've ever made. If you had a 3080 and you sold it for, say, $350-400... you still have to shell out $600-700 to get an 80-class, same amount as last time! That's just absurd! It's like you didn't get anything for your previous card, you paid the same, because the new one is ridiculously priced. 😐 And dropping to a 70-class feelsbatman. 😕 Especially considering the 4070 is actually a 4060, so you'd actually be getting a 60-class. 😐 The entire 4000 series cards suck. They just plain suck, and a major skip. And if they don't get their shit pricing sorted with the 5000 series, it's gonna be another skip generation. I can't wait to skip it! 👌

@johnc8327 5 ай бұрын

I'm not sure I understand the rose glasses for the 10 series. The 4070 super is way faster than any 10 series card ever was and has features the GTX 10 series never had. A hundred dollars more than the 1080 gets you way more raster perforrmance, 4GB more VRAM, plus RT and DLSS.

@zdspider6778 5 ай бұрын

@@johnc8327 $100 more than the 1080 gets you a "70-class" that's actually a 60-class in terms of die type (AD106 which is typically used in the 60-class), die size (typical of a 60-class), smaller power draw (typical of a 60-class), smaller PCB (again, 60-class), smaller memory bus, less CUDA cores, less everything. Everything just screams 60-class. And they want MORE for it? Clownvidia. 🤡 192-bit memory bus when ALL 70-class sold in the last DECADE since the GTX 670 had 256-bit. Gee, thanks... *The real 70-class is now $800.* Shitty upscaling and fake frames were only developed to sell you less hardware for more money, make no mistake about it. _Nvidia, the way you're meant to be played._

@Eric-ct2ri 5 ай бұрын

@@johnc8327 gen on gen the 10 series was better. like nosht sherlock the 40 series is better than the 10 series BUT the 40 series is a similar performance increase than the 10 series was compared to previous except the 10 series was priced like the prior gen cards and the 40 series prices are jacked up. the gtx 10xx cards were much faster than the gtx 6xx cards yet had similar prices the same way the 40xx is faster than the 10xx but prices are much higher. this is why the 10 series is the last good gen nvidia released cause its he last gen of cards they released that didnt have mining and scalping influence. everything since has had mining and scalping greed attached to it.

@johnc8327 5 ай бұрын

@@Eric-ct2ri I own a 1070, and it's garbage compared to my 3070, and my 3070 is garbage compared to my 4090. I'm not comparing gen to gen. I'm comparing overall performance. and RTX 4000 series is highest performance, and highest performance per dollar there has ever been. Even if you compare gen to gen, 4070 at $600 is better price to performance than 3080 12GB at $800. This is BEFORE we even factor in things like DLSS and Frame Gen. AI has made the newer cards way better performance wise than the old GTX stuff.

@Eric-ct2ri 5 ай бұрын

@@johnc8327 you can look it up the 10 series was a similar increase to the 40series over the prior gen. 1080ti was 67% faster than the 980ti just like the 4090 is 64% faster than the 3090... the 1060 was the 4070 equivalent gpu for the generation ie the one that competed withthe previous gens x80 card and it was less than half the price of the 980 and had more ram... btw framegen doesnt give more performance it just makes the fps number bigger by adding more screens its basically a cheat to make the fps number higher. were going to have to find a different way to judge performance than fps now since fps can be artificially inflated without actually giving more performance.

@FunFunFun8888 5 ай бұрын

RX7900XTX is still way faster than both 4080 & 4080 Super

@c-tothefourth4879 5 ай бұрын

Yeah but it’s crap

@mechadeka 5 ай бұрын

@@c-tothefourth4879Shush, the adults are speaking.

@spicywater1494 5 ай бұрын

Lying is crazy

@laszlozsurka8991 5 ай бұрын

Until you turn on raytracing

@eplugplay8409 5 ай бұрын

It’s a good card but it’s kind of old now. Good price drop. I got the 4080 super Fe at Best Buy yesterday and while great wasn’t amazing compared to my 4070 even at 4k gaming. I returned it and will wait for 5080.

@JonnyLing12 5 ай бұрын

You may be waiting for 2 years now tho

@esagheer 5 ай бұрын

I am upgrading from 3080. My 4080 S card has arrived from BestBuy. I have not opened the package yet. I am not sure if it is worth it and contemplating a return. I could probably keep it and try to sell the 3080. I don't know yet.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I personally would only upgrade for minimum 2.5x the raw performance@@esagheer

@Show_FDU 5 ай бұрын

@@esagheerkeep it. I have it and it’s a beast

@eplugplay8409 5 ай бұрын

@@JonnyLing12 Maybe and that's fine with me. 4070 should be fine for another couple of years.

@EricTheBroBean 5 ай бұрын

It's not meant to be a substantial upgrade from a 4080, but if you're looking to upgrade to a 4080, its a no brainer. I upgraded from the Strix 4070 Ti OC to the Strix 4080 Super OC, basically I went from a powerful beast to a more powerful beast.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I just upgraded from 1080 Ti to 4080 16gb for $920 USD brand new equivalent in Australia. To me it is worth it for sure.

@EricTheBroBean 5 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh What model did you get? All the 4080's are 16gb btw.

@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын

I know they are all 16GB I got a Galax ST@@EricTheBroBean

@iequalsnoob 5 ай бұрын

lawl where is AMDs 800 card? oh yea their cream of the crop trades blows with a 4080 and 800 card had to take a huge price cut cause its that bad. the 4080 super being 999 changed the pricing landscape and is worth it over the xtx all day everyday

@JamesSmith-sw3nk 5 ай бұрын

"Unexpectedly strong sales figures for the GeForce RTX 4080 Super on the first day of sales at Mindfactory (Large German retailer): ~490 units are better than all other graphics cards launched in 2023 & 2024." I think a lot of people got tired of waiting around.

@zdspider6778 5 ай бұрын

You can get any card you want, at any price you want, if you hold out long enough. 😉 Think about it.

@jonboy602 5 ай бұрын

@@zdspider6778 That's deep bro.

@bigdaddyt150 5 ай бұрын

In what world do YOU ALL LIVE IN where you think nothing goes up in price . I mean REALLY !! and it amazes me how people keep saying the 7900XTX is cheaper or AMD care about consumers yet AMD released the 7900XTX at $999 which is the highest price they thought they could get for there product. The only reason they keep cutting the price is to seem more competitive to attract sells . Has Nothing to do with caring about consumers. They gonna try to get the max profits they think they can BECAUSE THATS HOW BUSINESS WORK .They not doing anyone any favors. If they truly cared about giving consumers better than RTX 4080 performance for a reasonable price they would have released the 7900XT at the old 6800XT price of $680with only the 7900XTX at $999 like the 6900XT was the previous generation

@JoeyJoejoe-sq9io 5 ай бұрын

As an owner of the original 4080, this card makes me happy. It's cheaper than my card but it's not better. God would I have been pissed. I still have the secondish best video card in the world, kinda. Small yay.

@plasmahvh 5 ай бұрын

i mean what did people expect? you look at the 4080 you look at ad103. 4080s is fully utilized ad103. 4080s being on ad102 is foolish by nvidia. even the 4090 is cheap for an ad102 card. you have to realize that 4080 levels of performance ad102 cards are selling for $3000. vram and ai. nvidia isnt giving u a 4080s on ad102 for

@fearcry 5 ай бұрын

I just upgraded from GTX 1080 to RTX 4060. The Nvidia RTX 4080 Super = Scam...

@zdspider6778 5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call that an "upgrade". Moving from an 80-class to a lowly 60-class feelsbadman. Especially considering that the 4060 isn't even really a 60-class. *The real 60-class is $600.* The "4060" is really a 4040 but Ngreedia couldn't call it that because _404 doesn't exist,_ it would've been a meme card. So it's really more like a 4030Ti, something like that. The 60-class is supposed to MATCH or SURPASS the previous-gen 80-class. And yet the "4070" actually *LOSES* to it by up to 9% (at 1440p and 4k). A 70-class should never be more than $500, that's just insane. That's where the 80-class should sit at.

@fearcry 5 ай бұрын

@@zdspider6778 I agree with you :), just a hair upgrade😅

@MrN1ce9uy 5 ай бұрын

I wish Nvidia would stop finding new ways to make gaming GPUs cost $1000+.

@MrN1ce9uy 5 ай бұрын

Good gaming GPUs offer good gaming value. GPUs costing $1000+ do not in any way offer good gaming value. Life costs too much to spend $1000+ on gaming GPUs.

@spicywater1494 5 ай бұрын

@@MrN1ce9uythen don't buy it💀 you are just yapping 💀

@ziudra91 5 ай бұрын

Oh give me a break. What did you expect? A 4090? 200 discount is a great deal from what we had. Is it a good deal for people with a 4080? No Is it a good deal for people with a 3070 etc heck Yes.

@victorsegoviapalacios4710 5 ай бұрын

The 4080S is a good card, at a "decent" price, if you think GPU are going to get any cheaper, better just buy AMD crap, or quit PC gaming altogether and get a console; stop dreaming, gaming is a hobby for people with money, just like anything else

@lasantabibliaparanino3795 5 ай бұрын

Sadly console is worst and gaming in general is not even that good now.

@funsterkeyven 5 ай бұрын

You must be a shill. No way you're arguing "it is what it is" unless you hate Capitalism. The pathetic mindset of someone who argues in favor of being scammed because they believe the consumer has zero say over the market. The Super is literally in response to consumers refusing to buy into the overpriced shitshow that is the standard 4080. Keep doing this and watch prices move downwards. Only paid fools would tell others to give up and keep paying whatever a shitty company wants. By all means you are free to keep flushing your money down the toilet lol. I love watching stupid people lose money due to a loser mentality.

@JahonCross 5 ай бұрын

Maybe be more productive and not just play games all day lol@@lasantabibliaparanino3795

@RanjakarPatel 5 ай бұрын

This man is number one disgrace. He fourget India and only speaking four Pakistan and Iraq . He no enjoy four his own countree

@gametestinglab8861 5 ай бұрын

Tell me your definition of crap. If someone want a card to play and it’s on budget there’s nothing wrong with AMD in my opinion. What he’s losing? Ray tracing? Any Nvidia card under 600$ can’t do Ray tracing good enough. If you’re in a budget you don’t give a 🐀 ass about Ray tracing. I build PC and I flip easier those with Nvidia cards. But I’m getting RX 6600 80-100$. Which is roughly similar performance to RTX 4060 300$. RX 6600 will play just fine games and drivers are as good as they can be. Why a budget gamer should pay 300 when he is in budget and he wants just to play games for best budget he can? Or just because Nvidia should make at least 60% profit margin? Or any other reason that only you can tell and nobody else can? Buy Nvidia or get out of PC gaming looks little bit arrogant to me. May be you should just your statement a little bit? Don’t you think?