Underwater mines: 😊😊😊 Underwater mines: 💀💀💀

Norway somehow finding yet another source of valuable natural resources

This is what happens when the guys that grew up playing Minecraft start getting their first jobs

- Is the explosive in the mine yours? - Yes, it's a mine mine of mine

And here I was thinking they're about to start laying Claymores on the sea floor😂

So i have just one thing to say: you know that there are no nodules in the Norwegian EEZ right? Its all sub-surface ore seams, and most if not all of the points you brought up do not apply when doing remote sub-surface mining. Its literaly two completely different types of mining

The thing is, we need the resources. Metals are highly recyclable, but when our cars are to drive electrically and our heating and cooking should function electrically we need more copper to achieve that. And thats okay, because once we have these metals, we can recycle them over and over again and use green energy. Might be 100 years away, but i think it is the way to go. Next thing: The earth is 70% water and 30% land. Even on land our mines take up a very small percentage of space. Highlighting all that ground is misleading, it would take ages to mine that much space under water. I think it is a possibility we need to evaluate. Maybe agree on zones etc, bc fishing can be renewable if you only take what can regenerate. Yes minerals dont regenerate, but the wildlife can if done right. Im all for saving animals from extinction, but i am not naive to think that banning this will solve any problem. Cause remember, the world needs these resources and they will get them. Better highly developed countries like norway agree on how to mine it as responsible as possible, rather than a mine in south america or africa pouring chemicals all over the place, having workers die in unsafe condistions etc. Cause thats what is happening otherwise. China is the biggest producer of rare earth minerals, dont be naive and think they do it more environmentally friendly than we could do.

I mean we either mine on land, completely deleting whole chunks of terrain, or we scoop loose valuables from the seafloor, seems like an upgrade

We have a huge sea and fish industry in Norway that has been heavily protected while we have drilled for oil and gas. With propper regulations mining on the sea floor are going to be fine.

Personally I see seabed mining is good move compared to land mining, as long as it done responsibly : No mining on seabed where coral lives, not using chemical, and keep the noise level low. The bad part is it will be hard to monitor as the operation is hard from common eyes to observe.

Norway shows itself as green but most of their income comes from oil and gas selling while they themselves use electric cars. Everything is for profit. So they will mine because it is profitable.

Mine them, im tired of autocrats monopolizing rare earth minerals

It is a trial tho. Basically a large scale science project. Not saying I support it, I find it strange our government didnt reconsider or give it a second thought after the backlash. However, this is barely even reported in Norway. But the reality is, we do not know what effect it has. Some say it will have huge effect. Some say it won't.

Underwater mining should be banned, because it might be harmful, but surface mining is ok, because we know for certain that it's harmful. great logic by so-called environmentalists

Sea bed mining might be messy at first, but I firmly believe it is the future. If we start now, we might start to build up the know-how to do it properly and more cleanly in the future.

When even an oil company gets concerned about the envirement, you might reconsider your idea.

as far as i know, this is more a test project then anything. To map out what impact it might have before deciding full expansion or stopping it. For that i am supportive. Also the depths they are doing the mining at is helping as well

I actually thought they want to rig the sea floor with explosives lol.

I think there are viable concerns about the environmental impact of deep-sea mining. But we're always up against the next-best... all the companies who signed the moratorium still plan on demanding these metals from far dirtier sources. For an extractive industry like mining, literally picking up rocks off the ground is about as good as you can get

And they call it a Mine... A MINE?

When people are discussing mining nodules from the seafloor, usually there's a lost Soviet submarine in the area. Ref (some keywords): Project Azorian, Glomar Explorer, K-129, Howard Hughes, circa 1974.

if i were to guess, they’re mining underwater to mine stuff that’s underwater

We unlock a kaiju .... Godzilla time

AMAZING! As always a kinda unknown subject brought to life in amazing detail and storytelling.

I have a feeling the enviromental impacts can be mitigated by good practices, and that they will be reduced compared with land-based mining. Hope we can start doing it, my Portugal has a great opportunity to be a major player in deep sea mining

More studies are still needed especially since we are finding new issues e.g., Dark Oxygen

It seems like from an environmental standpoint since it's so easy to do we should just limit the speed of which they do it. Your mining tool can only be so wide, you can only go in a square kilometer every so many months. Taking into consideration tidal drift, you need to somehow figure out how to get rid of animals safely. Hopefully we don't totally screw this up 🤞

Have you seen this article: Source: Evidence of dark oxygen production at the abysmal seafloor, published 22 July 2024 ? If report is true, then I think it would change the direction and public perception of deep sea mining

The problem lies in the way it's done, not in underwater mining in it of itself.

Lets at least try it. The UK, New zealand, france, Japan and portugal have a lot to gain if this can be done well.

since china thinks artificial islands extends their maritime borders, maybe america should make some along the clarion clipperton fracture zone. fair is fair

That's SIR David Attenborough my friend ;) love your work btw

The Ocean is a desert. It might consume the most co2, but it is much larger than the forest. Co2 consumed per km2 is far less than co2 cunsumed per km2 of land.

These scenes with the bots mining underwater reminded me a lot of Dune and their spice harvesters.

What is title and what you talking about I thought Norway putting underwater mines for security purpose lol

i see so many complaining we don't know if vacuuming the sea bed wil be bad so it is bad

China does not have the majority of the rare earth minerals. They just have the majority of mines developed to extract them and that is changing rapidly. Rare earth minerals are not actually rare at all. they are all over the planet especially near the Rocky mountains of the US.

What about mining for minerals under the seafloor?

Go mine the Moon...is my vote. Ocean's overly stressed already imo.

I was listening to this. And thought, i recognise that accent. Hello fellow Dane.

:-) I want a job telling others no ... they'll only listen if they think it's in they're best interests. But a great Job

The norwegian money hack that keeps on giving

why does this reminder me of the Glomar Explorer that raised a Soviet ballistic missile sub. Is there a Russian sub or new Missile on the sea floor there

6:34 ah yes, that is the exact way that earth rotates

There will be absolutely no reduction in emissions from deep sea mining in contrast there will be an increase in emissions as a result. Never once have humans stopped mining in an original location when we find a different source. It will still be mining on land plus now we are mining the sea bed. Then in the future it will be we are mining on land, we are mining the sea floor and we are launching rockets to space to mine X or Y. But the entire time we are continuing to mine every other place we were already mining.

U need to update ur facts. USA has made huge discoveries as well as Scandinavia countries. But it will take awhile to get these mines online.

Super Necessary

I'm not sure whether Cobalt is as necessary for the future of EV and stationary batteries as said here (around timecode 5:50). Most new batteries these days are Cobalt free, and this will become more so as we transition towards other chemistries like sodium instead of lithium. Therefore this mining is simply not as important for technological advancement as asserted, the only motive I can make out is pure short-term profit.

It’s too bad that the Hughes Glomar Explorer was scrapped, as it was ideal for manganese nodule mining.

I'm okay with this

No way they collecting the subnautica mineral nodules

This is like clear cutting with napalm. It won't grow back. The tailings that extends down stream on land for miles will expand 3 dimensionally underwater. Nothing says base of the food pyramid than expanse of the sea floor

Given civilization's mad thirst for minerals, and externalizations are allowed, it is the obvious progression

It might be a pandoras box, but only means its a great i idea to open the box early and a little, so consequences can be evaluated.

Isn't it quite irony that the path to green energy, you need to do something as similar or worse to the planet as a whole.

Norwegian here: Scoop up nodules, scoop!

I have a question for the creators of this content: What is the purpose of the loud and extremely annoying background noise (muzack) that makes it hard to hear what the narrator is saying?

hell yeah, proud norwegian!

Why does it have to be one way or the other? Moratorium this moratorium that. The scientific approach would be to mine at small scale and measure the effects on the surrounding ecosystem.

Asteroid mining wen

i like how he says norway... "noevei"

somebody gotta do it first so we might as well do it as we have some standards in place😎

I vaguely remember a article in a popular science magazine from the 70's about deep sea mining. Which was 50 years ago. And the technology still isn't here. It's like nuclear fusion, it's always 30 years from now before it actually works.

why sow lifeforms. show the sea at 3000-5000m thats the place its about. not coral reefs

It’s an efficient way forward ♻️ 🔋⚡️

The seabed should be mined, we need resources and money, and most mines are deep, so, fire up the machinery and get to work

No one who can will hold back on vacuuming precious bowling ball or base balls when they can do it effectively... they just won't broadcast it ...

oh that mine

5:53 looks like the biggest artificial island

We're not building mines. We are vaguely,politically, discuss whether it's possible. And currently, we are at least 30yrs in on debating building a railroad in northern Norway. So.. i wouldn't worry about it...😂

Biodiversity vs human bank account.

Small scale exploration will not banckrupt any species.. but will be a source of knowledge to make future plans from... I might consider that those who can't don't want you to either ?

Norway playing subnautica

greed gonna f it up like always

And the seas turned to blood

Where I already heard this Voice?

Proud to be Norwegian

Norway has opened for exploration, there is no mine and as far as I know no plans yet. A lot of things concern me more. Like how we litter the country with cabins.

3:00 Calling David Attenborough a scientist is dragging it a bit far, isn’t it?

Deep see mining is the best ❤❤❤

No. These underwater mines are safer! The big corporations… they are trying to keep precious metals for themselves. I feel as tho this is a huge step in the right direction. We need to put more power in the people’s hands. This should do that. More resources for sll

Lets go! Norway is going to be the riches country

not saying anything about the rare earth found in wyoming is crazy lmao

will Portugal's enormous to be approved EEZ have any interesting minerals in its deep sea bed?

They're all against because it's not their profit

Isn't there a fuckton of World War war 2 bombs in that area😂😮

i think it needs to be done , but we should have the scientific comunity keep a close eye of it

Immediately no, I have a mid-atlantic ridge fancam edit saved on my phone somewhere so eat those words 😤

Not gonna lie, I thought this video is about Norway using naval mines to deter Russia.

I'm not suprised Norway is the one that starts this. Norway is very experienced in experimenting with extracting from the sea and has experienced workers that can fill out all the needed proffesions in seabed mining. Norway has also not been that envoirmentally friendly when it come to mining with Norway being one of the few countries that allows companies to dump heavy rocks into the sea. My opinion on it, i think we should do a test run on seabed mining, a lot of observing of the consequences of gains and drawbacks from operations

The ISA moved to formulate requests to be paid “royalties”(?!) from mining. Yeah, I would request that too. Pay me, so I can regulate you!

I think you've really buring the lead on how detrimental this will be for the undersea environment. You should really watch Last Week Tonight's episode on deep sea mining, did it not long ago too. Talks much about the very present dangers of the practice and how the seabed authority has conflicting interests in itself. What I don't understand is why we simply aren't putting all of our resources into sodium batteries. It's so plentiful and can be the key to everything.

We are fucked when they start seabed mining

so overfishing, plastic wastes, and industrial effluent was not enough

You should change that false title, dude.. "why Norway is building underwater mines" is false when we have not built them. It is an idea that is beeing considered. Bot something that's in action and getting built as the title assumes. Cheers from Norway..

No, we are not building mines. This will probably never happen.

WE NEED MINING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!

this is so awesome and all those commie tears just make the whole thing more sweet

ultimately countries will do it and the UN is powerless to stop it. you think china won't invest in this?

If you oppose this, you are basically making the value judgment that current type of mining is better. I don't see the activists giving up their yearly iPhone which is actually built from the various metals that existing mines produce.