It's a good theory here. At 5:45 Carl has 6 of diamonds and Rico guesses wrong. But on the next round, 5:57 Rico picks 7 of diamonds without thinking. It's like Carl's influence was delayed and off by a number but got the same suit.

Carl also puts his index finger to his temple as if he's trying to transmit a thought.

| Leadership sucks, someone has to do it…

Plus there's the fact that by that point, Carl is now dressed like a Gestapo officer.

Plus his demeanor changed to something souless. Definitely took a toll on him.

Also the SS uniform. Pretty important to the satire

@@jmcauley650 Well, they are technically a fascist state much like the nation you reside in. 👉 🇷🇺

They weren't quite 30.

@@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 Casper and Dina were 30, Denise was 28 and Neil was 25 so mostly right

@@johnwilliamson8556It's funny how Neil looks the oldest out of the bunch though.

⁠@@johnwilliamson8556they were 29 29 26 and 24 during filming, which is not 30 something

its like that in most american movies lol

Or Blanche Devereaux as a blind mad scientist dissecting spider aliens

imagine being a jew hiding in the attic only for neil patrick harris to turn on wallhacks

@@banhammer3904 Gestapo was a part of Schutzstaffel

"Well that's alright then!"

Good old practical effects. It looks real.

Agreed it's really impressive, but you didn't have to call me a dummy.

@@lactobacillusacidophilus So real that the vomit is not scripted

He is a psychic after all

I love how the movie's satire is apparently lost on you.

​@@Schokioki Not everyone who made this movie was a one-dimensional communist who didn't read the original text.

It can have both well written characters and be satire stop being dense

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She didn't deserve Rico and DIzzy was a much better person overall. Carmen was out of the door as soon as she became a pilot.

I think it’s hard, because they clearly had two different end goals for their relationship. For him it was something permanent to he built on, for her it was a high school relationship. We can see she cares for him to some degree, but for sure not to the level he feels for her

She saw her boyfriend get his brains be sucked out by a giant bug and 10 minutes later she was fine

@@LetHimRead she was never even into him, I bet he was like a status boyfriend to her

Maybe he has a vomit fetish and Carmen satisfies his needs... 👀

Only if you didn't read the original source material...

@@caronstout354 I disagree. I grew up with the book and the movie provides a great counterpoint to the book.

​@@NapalmdogIsn't the only reason they continue to live because of how militaristic their society is though?

@@louisryan5815 in the book/movie or in the U.S. today?

@@Napalmdog I was thinking the movie, but all 3 work

You have an insane eye for detail! I hadn't ever noticed ! Very good ! And that comes from someone who usually tries to look for background details in movies 👍🏼

With a dumb name

The only flaw in that argument is that Japan didn't have atomic weapons. Violence can only force a resolution favorable to a victor only as long as one side does not have access to the same weapons. Mutually assured destruction changed the course of warfare forever.

@@brettdeadrick524 I agree that mutually assured destruction changed war (becoming non-favorable to all), but up to that threshold violence has yielded resolutions even with similar weapons, skills, aggression, etc. To be clear, I don’t believe violence is de facto in its offerings, I just like the character’s reaction the naive classmate’s blanket philosophy.

What I thought too

Does he influence humans? I don't recall that

@@DaDaDo661 yup, in the ending where they reunite Jonny asks Carl if it was him who nudged him into the right cave to find Carmen

@@holostro ah that's right

and the guy went on later in life to work on a project for Mind Controlled Bugs to use so the federation can have their own army of bugs to command by the time of the 4th Film. Having become the Minister of Paranormal Warfare, he has plenty of supplies and connections by then.

@@orrthehunter the animated movies were enjoyable but in my headcanon only the first film counts

Then, Chaos.

​@@daniels7907*charges plasma pistol*

​@@daniels7907then warp storms

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And her name here is Ruth.

You think so? 😈

it's supposed to be a parody of a b-level propaganda flick, not to be one itself

Statistics isn't luck.

Bruh you've never seen this? It's a cult classic. The book is a decent read as well.

movie was originally something else but their rights to the book were expiring@@home_taping

there were several more movies and a cartoon series

It's a lighthearted romance comedy

Yeah it’s partly so they don’t have to worry about child labor laws.

5:49 He seemed a candidate of the "Federal Psychic Programme". Perhaps being chosen by the military or he voted to join a study?

The Mentalist is Simon Baker, not Neil Patrick Harris

Argentina is like +90% white even now. The spaniards killed pretty much all the indigenous people, which might be what the filmmakers where going for here.

lmao that other woman looked north of 35

@@somealias-zs1bw Diz would be bringing over a friend on your birthday and rocking your world on a regular basis. Carmen is a straight cold fish

@@somealias-zs1bw A 14 year old wrote this

Cause it might be

i remember watching this as a kid and thinking this society was sick & twisted

@@plus_sign So you hate the Western nation you live in right now? The world of ST is almost entirely what a Western nation like Canada or America looks like right now in terms of freedoms with the only caveat being you have to do two years of service to the state to get the franchise (right to vote). This of course already exists on our world right now in Switzerland, Germany, South Korea, etc. Are you saying these countries are sick and twisted?

Because it's basically a liberal Western democracy with all the upsides (mostly) kept and all of the downsides removed. Originally that was Heinlein's philosophy, he wasn't saying 'democracy bad' but rather that it needed a serious looking at. The director of the movie claims he was making a satire of fascism (which is odd because that's not what Heinlein wrote), but he also failed to, you know, actually make the society in the movie fascist lol.

​@@TRENCHESandTREADS except this society is not like current western societies, specifically including switzerland, germany and south korea - you are mischaracterizing their citizenship schemes - and the society being satirized is in fact fascist and has no redeeming qualities. No point trying to make an argument from factclaims valid only in your own head.

Oh, no no no. Surely they work on dehumanising bugs as much as possible, the thing is.this is not needed. Almost no human would actually treat some alien bugs as a fellow sentient species that doesnt deserve extermination. The thing is, we are talking about two stellar empires that are expanding over universe and yeah, eventually they clash. The point Verhoeven was trying to make is: this comicaly exagerrated fascist society is only good for one thing - killing some bugs

@@akrabis8905 And even then they suck at it considering they loose almost every major fight in the film. One of my favorite bits of this film with the understanding that this film is making fun of fascism is when we get the first real fight of the film. The scene opens with the troopers being all macho and acting like they're the most dangerous badasses of all time. WWhat I like most about this battle is just how pathetic the humans are during all this. Keep in mind that at the start of the battle the Bugs haven't actually done all that much at the and yet after losing one man the rest of the soldiers make a run for it before the orders to retreat are even given and said order to retreat is given only a few second later after everyone is already running for their lives after a few seconds into the war. Hell the Bugs were already kicking their butts and took down most of the fleet before the troopers had even made landfall. It highlights how utterly under prepared these idiots are for an actual fight. They talk a good game about how badass they are but as soon as things get even slightly tough they run with their tale between their legs like a dog with a spray bottle.

@@Winter-The-Masquerade oh, sure. "The intel says deadly blue balls of plasma are just harmless lights" Speaking of Klendathu invasion, its a bit different. At first a single bug withstand whole platoon fire and killed their leutenant, so they were short of command. Ace hesitated and screwed, so Rico took command. They were doing fine but well Shujumi rushed and got brutally killed in front of all of them and thats when weak-willed started to panic and run (actually the time they get shot in true fascist society). As panic spreads, especially if they noticed girl falling in a tunnel and gdtting captured ,(which means they are surrounded), there is no point not to command tactical retreat before it gets too late

I don’t think ST is strictly anti-fascist. Heinlein was a Navy vet and had a good look at the pros and cons of such a society. For example, if this movie was meant to be wholly negative, why is there racial and gender equality? Liberal democracy began in archaic Greece where they practiced the citizen-soldier ideal discussed here. Military service was the basis for citizenship. Same in the Roman Republic. The movie definitely takes a more negative and satirical spin on the politics, but even still there are scenes like this that are far from one-sided. I think a lot of ST involves ruminating on the limits and duties of obedience to authority. You can vote your conscience in politics but must obey orders as a soldier on the battlefield. Except when you know better and must risk punishment by disobeying authority for the good of the state. I think they are interesting questions and the satire is more about the certainty of things, the simplistic propaganda, etc. My take is that Heinlein probably thinks a liberal educational foundation is fundamental before the military training and indoctrination. That the citizen-soldier model works well because you are a civilian first, and that's how such a society resists falling in to fascism a la Rome.

@@tradtke101 the issue is that due to TB, Heinlein never participated in real war. Also yeah, navy. A lot of people miss that navy and field soldiers percieve war different way. While Navy may romanticize their duty, for those in trenches war is hell.

We already have it.

Gundam reference?

Similar to Warhammer 40k universe, where humans also have psykers among them. I suppose it could be tied that both are intergalactic or in space but 40K usually tie in psychic individuals with other dimensions or the Warp.

it's a cool trope IMO. warframe also has that, star wars also has that.

The other card is the one he’s trying to guess

No, he is supposed to guess the card we are being already shown, the one Carl picked. It wasn't something with the program but rather simply trying to read the other person's thoughts. He read Carl incorrectly.

Hmmm I’m not so sure. From what I understand humanity was pretty well-off during the DAOT. It didn’t become fascistic until the Age of Strife onwards

It's canon

That would be the film Event Horizon

it's supposed to match the other card...

Both she and Casper van Deen were cast because of their looks specifically, they give off the vacant-eyed all American teenager hero vibes that the director wanted to subtly hint at the kind of idiots that the fascist society they live in has created

VIOLENCE ☝🧐

future English is the primary language

There are many other forms of government beyond democracy, and many fascist thinkers believed their system was the mature form of democracy, exerting the true will of the nation, as it unifies all competing interests into the one state. The problem is Verhoeven doesn't understand any of that.

​@@Paul-A01fu*k any form of fascism.

@@Paul-A01 Well, yeah, there ARE many forms of government beyond democracy. I never disputed that. But history has proven unequivocally that none of them work as well. Anyways, fascist thinkers who believe fascism is a form of democracy are delusional; that's obvious nonsense. They're diametrically opposed.

I don't understand how anyone can live in today's day and age and be so ignorant of what fascism is. Democracy, for starters, is not a monolithic ideal, there are many forms of democracy, and most of them failed throughout history, one could even argue the current forms of democracy are failing literally right now. Regardless, it's worth pointing out that the society in the ST movie is literally not fascism BY DEFINITION. It literally breaks far too many sacred cows of fascist belief to be fascism. In fact, the world of ST is literally still a form of democracy, just with the franchise shifted to only those who have done civil service. . Do you think modern day Switzerland, Germany, or South Korea aren't democracies? You are *required* to do two or more years of civil service in these countries or face jail or disenfranchisement. How is that any different from ST? The world of ST has Free Markets Volunteer Service to the State Freedom of Religion Freedom of the Press Free Movement Like, their world is basically any liberal Western nation of today, sans a few differences, like population control via birth lottery (the planet is extremely overcrowded) and the criminalization of weapon ownership for non-Citizens. I literally don't know how people can watch this movie and call it fascism when it doesn't portray a fascist society at all.

​@@TRENCHESandTREADS it's not that they are ignorant, it's that you are lying, about the qualities of this society, the real world, and about the definitive chacteristics of fascism.

can't he be both?

GAY-PSYCHIC Basically Erudite in dnd 3.5e

It teaches fascism, not reality. I guess that went over your head?

@@ImperatorZed guy who thinks "all authority comes from violence" isn't a reasonable take also thinks voting (telling the government you want them to use their guns to enact something) isnt violence at its core this movie really is a midwit trap, you're stuck in the middle recognizing its satirical in nature, but not realizing that some of the things it says can have value at the same time

@@carbharharbcar5867 you are illiterate. Any ther neccessary component of fascism. You are putting it on display here.

@@ImperatorZed any ther? did you misspell authority? (crazy to call someone illiterate when you cant spell check yourself on a device with spell check built in) embarassing anyways, if you mean authority, this only makes you seem dumber, 'authority' is a necessary component of any conventional government. it's also an extrapolation of nature, hierarchy and violence are natural things that cannot be done away with, and by extension any government system or any organization of humans will be influenced by hierarchical and authoritative (violent) concepts. i think your main problem is that you think fascism just means killing all brown people and enhancing suffering. fascism isn't a good governmental system but in wartime for example dictatorial elements can be beneficial. and just because fascism itself isn't good doesnt mean that fascist ideology and reasoning can't be correct on some level. there's a reason people believed it in the past. same with communism, because labor theory of value has certain correct aspects to it.