Turns out he was right, too!

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A lot of characters got condensed or even eliminated from the book, which is sad. Namely Ace, who is only with rico after basic. The best example of his character might be his friend from basic Jenkins (who was both with him through klendathu and on to the roughnecks.) There's also the Roughnecks' platoon sergeant Jelal, a short Turkish man who was quite a stickler.

yes

Another good line of his was "Funny how they always want to be friends after they rip your guts out."

Yeah i thought he be rico enemy or bully instead ends up being one of his best bros and even wants him and diz to get together at the camp by playing romantic music with the fiddle around them.

Opposites attract, there are people you don't get along with, but when knee deep in shit they'll be there to cover your ass and you find out you have more in common than you think.

yes!!!! this

That's because they're all bullies. It's meant as a clue that we're rooting for bad people, and he's portrayed by Jake Busey, son of Gary Busey, people always associated with bully characters :)

I was always glad that Ace survived through the whole movie.

he was mission ready

Dude casually walking 😂

"Brownski" lmao

Start running fast boy

MOVE!! MOVEE!!!!

MOVE!

Hahaha nice

I love how he just snaps into action

yeee-haah!

fun fact bronski is the name of the sargent in jason x who knew jason lived in the same universe

Yes, Zim was the MVP!!! The Diego Maradona of the team all the time!!!

He was there to watch whos the natural leader of the platoon.

Two questions: 1. Was Zim the MVP? The Diego Maradona of the team of all time, if you will? 2. What was he there to watch for? Was it to find out the natural leader of the platoon?

@@NiceTryLaoChe Under the scope of my consideration... 1. Yes; even at the end when he went to the planet to keep fighting bugs 2. I don't think he was the type of man to trust in first impression, being himself in a job where the first impression is not the last. He might have been there to have a better picture of his trainees.

Just like real military training instructors. They're Always watching... ALWAYS.

Cept round money

Except the bugs they were about to fight don't have hands LOL

MEDIC.

Classic military reasoning.

I only found out recently he does the voice for Mr Krabs in spongebob.. Lol

Underrated comment lol!

...and he still gets pushed to the back of the line 😂

I see what your doing here. The old chat and cut. But I'm not going say anything because I respect your skills

He's smarter than he looks.

Everyone should have a friend like ace in their squad

Looks exactly like one of my mates from secondary as well, he’s not ace to me. He’s private Turley.

since all the other memerable characters are either dead or in other units

It's very realistic tbh

Dicks only act like dicks when they think they can get away with it.

XD

Lol

Fucking quality I was telling my son about this before we watched the film he rolled up laughing when it happened :D

lmao he pulled that rod from instinct.

*MOVE!*

Yeah, well, given their relative sizes and weights, he wouldn't even notice that hit in a real fight. You'd need a Clancy Brown-sized opponent to believably land a punch on Clancy Brown.

@@zroutube Well, keep in mind she was a trained athlete who could reasonably lift 50 to 60 pounds (unlike most women who lift 20 - 30 pounds (or my god.. less! had one 35 year old woman who had trouble lifting 15 pounds). She is also clearly trained in martial arts... so add that adds a bit more sting to the punch. And she took being choked out with aplomb. It really sold the character. The fight was credible. I liked Dizzy even tho they genderbent the character.

she's the best character by far, she doesn't even believe in the federation bull-s**t, and the fight scene shows how smart and controlled she is. But she's madly in love with Rico and will follow him to the other side of the galaxy. Her death is the only event that leads Rico to actually question the Federation, but then Carl shows up to put him back in line. If you watch well, Dizzy is the only character which expresses human emotions at the Buenos Aires destruction. She conveys it in just two words "it's home". Rico is just angry and wants to fight. We never get to see the reactions from Carmen or Carl, who also lost their parents there, and the rest of the world is only excited about a new war.

@@zroutube It's always possible for a trained fighter to knock someone out with a headshot regardless of size difference. They don't need enough power to break a jaw, just enough to jiggle the opponent's brain.

​@@mickd9398​ yes,but anyway heavyweight always have BIG neck muscles, which makes much more harder to "shake brains".mighty neck with specific muscle memory can to extinguish very serious blows, and the necessary acceleration of the skull simply does not occur. thus, some people are incredibly difficult to knock out, and if someone hit them 30-40 kg lighter is almost impossible. That simple mechanic is ignored often by many people who thinks that just needed to hit accurate to right spot. But it's not weak spot, it's spot of maximum leverage. That's all.

He was in the Navy during his earlier years. Armor Abs Krabs

You spelled The Kurgan wrong :D

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AHAHAHAHAHA

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Technically, the pain is in the mind, as that is where it is translated to be.

@@samsonguy10k no the brain tells the arm its in pain so technically you are wrong

Pain is just weakness leaving the body as they used to say in the Army.

@@billybobs1705 you literally just reaffirmed his point genius lol I agree with you but the way you put that worked against our point lol

@@la-li-lu-le-lo9444 no he was just trying to be clever...

i fucking love this movie! 🍻

I never felt like this was a comedy at all the only thing funny to me were the propaganda videos everything else was as dark and serious as it was supposed to be like the book.

@@Elitesolider1023 / Agreed, it sarcastically poked at fascism and the insanity of hyper-nationalism... it was funny too though, in a cringy sort of artificial utopian kinda way

@@Andrew_M_Ward pretty much just like robocop making fun of regan bullshit lol.

@@Elitesolider1023 Robocop started as an attempt to make a Judge Dredd movie but they didn't have the SFX or budget so they replaced the future and Megacity 1 with a very near future Detroit and turned Dredd into a cyborg as opposed to an unrelenting and unstoppable lawman. Starship Troopers was written from the ground up as a satire of US culture and it's slow march into happy clappy fascism which can be compared to Robocop's corporate kleptocracy. Fascism usually comes in through the establishment of a corporate kleptocracy as corporatism is the central plank of fascist economic theory as laid down by Mussolini in his fascist manifesto.

'i reckon it is broken sir', while it is almost 2 halves :p !

Yeah that's the reason he stayed down, his cast iron bollocks wouldn't let him back up

When healthcare is so good you can have a shitton done to you in basic. And it is on the government's dime until you walk down Washout Lane.

Has an arm fracture "Pain is in your mind"

Move, maggot, MOVE!!😂

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well spotted

In real life, Drill Instructors look for the most motivated recruit.

Such attention to detail in moments like this is what made this movie great. Though the overall plot is iffy.

Also Kinda adds to the idea that the higher ups knew an attack, like it was planned by them, was incoming which itself could've been a diversion to strike fear in the earth so we WOULD go for the all out invasion.

@@Th0ughtf0rce how so? Genuinely interested what you think.

you do realize combat medics do other things in the military besides deploy for combat operations right? They are the ones working in clinics and shit one tour then the next infantry, etc.

They dont. They have only for Sgt. Zim batallion. He is that savage with his recruits.

You can get hurt anywhere training for war

@@tjepic5256 Yeah, one guy later gets definitely hurt in the head.

We always had medics attached to us.

She was smoking hot and cute AF at the same time. Hell, I remember watching Star Trek: Nemesis and thinking the Romulan commander was strangely hot....and then realized it was her lol.

All the times I’ve seen this movie and I’ve never noticed Zim watching and waiting to break it up if the confrontation went nasty.

Redheads, oh man.

Dina > Denise all day. Doesn't hurt that she got the shower scene. Verhoeven clearly agrees with us.

The interview before a screening where he explains how he made "the world's most expensive art film" is hilarious. The movie only got made at all because the studio changed heads three times and nobody at the top paid attention to what he was doing until it was too late to call it off.

@@squamish4244 makes sense! I bet it wqs initially greenlighted as just another sci-fi action movie.

Great, except it doesn't capture the book Heinlein wrote, it comes across more like a "Saved By The Bell" episode.

@@brassplyer Which was sort of the point. Verhoeven deliberately set out to mock the book and all it stood for because it was a jingoistic wankfest.

A strong society is meant to be humorous tho?

Thats actually my favorite of the whole movie. (MOVE!!!!) 😂😂

"Bronski, fuck that guy's shit up" *Bronski immediately fucks that guy's shit up*

When you walk back from the latrine and your scary CO gives you an order

Real life marine drill instructors are exactly like this.

What a professional.

Great analysis

uh, you're buying in a little much on the parody. Zim broke the guys arm bc he's been bred to be cruel and unforgiving. This is seen as strength by this warped society. Anyway, some of your other points are good but uh... watch where you step in a film/ literary sense....

@@patrickhamos2987 no actually its not cruelty entirely . Look at the way he comes at zim charging in 100%. Zim gave back what he received, although with some excessive force for sure.

Flores didn't join for Rico...she joined to be in the best training unit. Zim even states "You specifically requested "I heard it was the best."

@@SoulKiller7Eternal Thats a good analysis, I was about to argue with you but her eye contact with him indicated surprise rather than intent.

“Pearl, keep pace”

How have I been watching this movie for 20+ years and never noticed that?!

@@EmperorJim fukc man! Me too😯😯

Okay so who is Zim?

@@astroboy9736 the Drill Instructor

@@astroboy9736 Oh boi you just wasn't paying much attention.

R Lee Ermey probably could’ve done it.

@@user-eh2mi2oh4h 0:31 to 0:35 R. Lee Eremy motherfuckers.

Perhaps Lou Gossett Jr

Pulled out his baton...I died.

Bronskinkeep pace! MOVE! LOL

Hmm making fun of Polish named characters. Let me guess writer is of German or Jewish decent. Oh wait

@@hagestad lmao think a little beyond your shoebox of a skull for once

@@hagestad Bruh, Bronski was the gentlest corporal of all.

Im good with aything involving Dina Meyer taking her clothes off.

@Si Dunue You are correct.

Si Dunue - all legit funny as heck. Especially where the OP wrote: "Sex huh, ok fine." 😂😂

"Hmmm...It appears nudity on this planet makes one stronger."

"Now that's the kind of gal who makes squad leader."

there can be only one

Mom!

The Kurgan was his best part, but he did very well in the Kevin Costner movie, The Guardian

Shawshank Redemption

Mr. Krab...

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Dammit now I want to see a complete reshoot with Jake Busey as Malfoy. No accent, no costume, just Jake Busey.

Except 1 - Malfoy is a bully, Ace is not 2 - Malfoy did not offer his friendship to Harry, he just told him he could "help him not making friends with the wrong sort".

I knew it would be wayyy before I watched it.

@@WestLegend03 Dang lol😂

I had a friend who called it the worst movie ever. I pointed out 1) it was a satirical wwii propaganda film set space and 2) Batman and Robin came out earlier in the year. It wasn’t even worst movie of the year (and I forgot about The Postman). My friend never got the movie.

Highlander, SpongeBob, Shawshank, the list is endless

@@slowemm lol. Highlander being the most iconic in my opinion

@@leadmydayslord4027 Highlander is eternal

@@CyborgNinja442 princes of the universe.

@@slowemm 1983 movie Bad Boys with Sean Penn.

I remembered getting sleep holder and almost passed out almost a decade ago because i thought i could take on my instructor... who is a woman. Being young and stupid.

@ElectricDreams it's been 20 years but I think I remember them saying that that movie comes close to what the future is going to be like

@@KensGarage. Quite honestly it can't come soon enough...

Do you want to know more?

@@KensGarage. The DVD commentary says it's supposed to be what the world would be like, if the Nazi's won the war.

The director changed the same quite a bit from the book. In the book, Zim didn't break the arm intentionally. And he apologizes to the recruit afterwards for breaking the arm because the recruit rushed him before Zim was ready. And he felt it was his responsibility to always be ready. This plays out later in the book when one of the characters acting as an officer is struck by a recruit. Either them or Colonel to watch is very disappointed in the character because now they have to punish the recruit but they consider it the character's failure.

Yep, Johnny was an idiot. She was way hotter than Carmen. Probably better in the sack too.

Me too

Helps build discipline

I'd say it's just as important as anything else. Keeps your body in peak condition.

And also an immortal swordsman.

I'd hate to see how badly he'd beat up a recruit after taking that hat off.

Brony Bronski

Prepares his troops for what's coming to them when they hit the field, while maintaining teamwork and cooperation. No enmity between anybody unless they choose it. I never cared for training tactics that encouraged rivalries or making yourself the bad guy just to unite the recruits. That's weak tyrant sauce.

He also observes but doesn't intervene when Ace and Rico looked like they were gonna fight and then gave a smirk when Ace just made a joke of it.

Considering what happened to the other two, he was pretty easy on the laughing guy Despite the gruff drill sergeant talk, he clearly respects everyone there and treats them like adults

That's because Zim isn't a bully, he is a professional.

He is also Kurgan the immortal in Highlander, Captain Hadley in Shawshank Redemption, voice of Lex Luthor in the Justice League cartoon and voice of Neo Cortex in the Crash Bandicoot game series.

Correction, that's Mr. Krab's human avatar.

And also prez Johnson in the crown 👑 season 3 and surtur in Thor Ragnarok..

Also Lt Hank Anderson in "Detroit: Become Human".

and that giant monster covered in flames in Thor Ragnarok

And here they made him the comedy clown, just good at showing off his butt and being the second in squad to get shredded on the first encounter with bugs. *sigh*

I thought it was a back and forth but Zim got the win. They just replaced Shijumi with Diz. Though Shijumi is now a guy who raged out and got torn a part on klendathu.

Except no sergeant would let you address him as sir.... My father retired as the equivalent of a US Navy Master Chief Petty Officer and whenever he was addressed as sir his response always was:"Don't call me sir! I work for a living"

@ZATennisFan In boot camp recruits have to address sergeants and everyone else who isn't a recruit as sir or ma'am. It's after boot camp that you only call officers sir or ma'am.

Fighting Zim was a no-win scenario. Only a question of how long you last. It's no wonder they really started to win when he let himself get demoted to get on the field.

She got to smack the shit out of her instructor without facing disciplinary action afterwards! Just a giant bruise on her neck lol.

The book is a multi-read masterpiece. The movie is not.

It also has the beginnings of a better form of government that we currently have. In the book obviously.

@@michaelmaroney1660 Ehhhhhhhh. In certain ways.

@@krow7402 I'm not saying that it is perfect by any means. But the idea of dividing society by those who are willing to sacrifice for it does make a lot of sense.

@@michaelmaroney1660 I have often wondered why people who don't own land or contribute in taxes are allowed to vote.

Unfortunately, we did get a bunch of sequels...and they were all shit.

a series would be cool too

after every fucked up recent remake? even if the remakes/recent sequels are good they rarely do well given legacy of the such movies...

No hell no a remake now days mean Rico will be black and gay , that girl Flores will be the hero of the movie so a big NO!. Lets leave Starship Troopers as it is

@@dwybo646 admittedly I did enjoy the animated series back in the late 90s/early 00s

all.the.best

There is that but Verderhoven is a bit obsessed with blood. He has made a lot of interesting films that irritated others in his native land so he eventually found it better to move elsewhere. I'm sure he'll be treasured after he is safely dead tho (is he now? I don't track him).

That's why he's the one who captures the brain bug in the end.

"You will not laugh, you will not cry! You will learn by the numbers, I will teach you!"

Shoulda tried for a shoulder tackle instead of leading with his hands for some silly reason.

I love the "acting" in this movie, right down to that "ha ha ha"!

Zim and Hadley aren't the same. Zim does what he does to help the soldiers prepare for war, while Hadley is just a corrupt prison guard. They have verry little in common.

Far from it. They are entirely different characters, and I think it's a credit to Clancy Brown how he subtly puts across the differences. Hadley is a bully. He likes inflicting pain and suffering to those who he has fully control over. I think you see a lot of his true self come out towards the end of the film, firstly after Andy has escaped and they are in the cell. You see the fear in him, the lack of control. The way he flinches when the warden is throwing rocks. He's dealing with someone who's smaller than him, weaker than him, but has so much power over him, and that terrifies him. Then also at the end when he's arrested. Again, he's afraid, he's powerless. The sort of men who he's spent his careers having almost unlimited power over are now fully controlling his life (since the police arresting him, the judges who will sentence him, the prison officers who will confine him are in most ways no different to the prisoners he's controlled). Zim on the other hand is a "tough love" sort. He knows that he needs to turn these bunch that are below apes into a fighting force if they are to have any chance of surviving. He makes it clear he doesn't have full control over them. He tells them they can leave any time they want. You see a lot of his true self in two scenes. Firstly here, after he breaks the recruits arm. He asks "you ok son", and you can hear the care in his voice. He doesn't try and belittle him. The lesson is taught, to all of them. Then there is after the accident. For a start when they are discussing what happened, you can see how this is personal to him, yet he doesn't try and blame Rico, and backs him up. Then there is the whipping "bite down on his son, it helps, I know". Throughout the whole scene you can tell he's taking no pleasure in it. He doesn't want it to happen, he wishes it didn't need to happen, but it does. Another wonderful scene is when Rico decides not to drop out. Zim gives a little smile at this. Then when he rips up Ricos dropout form. "Is this your signature private?" "Doesn't look like it to me".

@@ChrisCooper312You described the differences masterfully, two completely types of character.

and she would be black lesbian

Lol, you didnt get the movie did you ...

@@tacticalcrusader3709 No, she would be a black Muslim, lesbian, transgender vegan.

@@majormononoke8958 You didn't get the comment, did ya ...........

@@tacticalcrusader3709 and the story would usually have the main character played by some Jewish model with Mary Sue character

Whoa I didnt even think about that....Almost exactly the same

Except here he is looking out for those under him. Even if it is tough love.

@@samsonguy10k Also in this movie he ended up saving the day by capturing the brain bug

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@@wimschouten2937 That means hello in Russian

What about him as Mr Krabs?

@@osmanyousif7849 Or Risotto Coupon

I never realized until now that he was same actor in both movies my mind is blown

@@DansenOpWagner Or Surtur

aight genie, back in your lamp!

In an opposite world I guess

A classic line. The writer has a lot of classic lines of dialogue in this movie.