CFmoto 450MT IBEX - Everything you REALLY should know

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Hello adventurers! Today i bring the most honest and complete video I could make about the 450MT.
In the next weeks/months I will certainly learn a lot more about this bike, so stay tuned for new facts, modifications, onboard videos, etc etc :D
-Diogo Guerra
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@pabloricardodetarragon2649
@pabloricardodetarragon2649 26 күн бұрын
Excellent review as always. The feeling of lighter weight comes from the height of the center of gravity. The T7 is known to have this center a bit too high, hence the sensation of weight, particularly in low speed and worst when you have to get it up after a fall. It's simple physics the effort to make is the weight multiplied by the distance between the center of gravity and the pivoting point, in our case the the tires. On a ordinary bike there is little difference in strength and durability between a cast piece and a CNC one except if you go for very expensive high strength alloys, but that's for competition or aeronautics. But the difference of price is consequent in high series fabrication when you can amortize the cost of the tooling and molds. With metal molds with pressure injected alloy you can make very complex pieces without porosity flaws or voids at very good prices and most important in seconds. That's impossible to make in CNC at a decent price. So all depends on the quality of the alloy, happily there are plenty of rather cheap but strong and durable alloys for pressure injected casts. And for export bikes I'm almost sure that CFMoto is not using salvaged beer cans. After all they are making bikes for KTM and now Yamaha in a new joint venture, they know their job. The price of the 450 MT is not obtained by stupid savings on the materials but by using industrial capacities and the will of keep the margins decent for a very wide market as they want to sell it in big numbers in the whole world from Europe to Asia and Latin America, like Voge did with the 300 Rally. In fact like did the Japanese a long time ago. The contrary of several brands which are using the luxury market approach to maximize the profits. I have seen in an Australian video that CFMoto has made an ECU update to solve the inconvenient throttle. Ask your dealer if that's available in Europe. Another fix I've seen is to tune the slack of the cable to reduce it to the very minimum. The lateral slack is also another factor. For the lateral slack in the throttle a washer of appropriate thickness cut in a flat piece of nylon or high density polyethylene will do the job. Easy to make DIY with very simple tools. The first gear is very low at only 60 kmh at probably 9500 to 10000 RPM, that"s only 8 kmh at idle 1300 RPM, and a top speed of 150 kmh probably at 8500 RPM with 6 speeds. The engine is very round, plenty of torque from the low RPM. I would try a 15 teeth sprocket, it's just 7 % more. If it's good I would go to around 10 % and for that I would change the rear sprocket keeping the original front 14 teeth. I doubt that will have an adverse effect on adventure off road but will improve the cruising speed on asphalt. I think that this too short de-multiplication is for helping the total beginners struggling between the throttle and the clutch in the middle of the asphalt jungle and a white dirt road. We all have been beginners...
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
This comment is as useful (if not more) than my review! I am going to pin at the top...again 😂😂 A note: at 150km/h the motorcycle is inside the redline, reaching ~10.000rpm. This engine likes to be stretched, its one of those bikes that (although it has plenty of torque down low) continues to develop lots of hp at very high rpms. Its awesome for powersliding for instance, cause at any given moment/gear you can just pull the throttle and the bike will always be able to give you more :)) Thanks again Pablo!
@starseeddeluxe
@starseeddeluxe 26 күн бұрын
Good information. I would have point out that we can't keep applauding manufacturers for putting too low of 6th gear ratios on modern high powered motorcycles---bikes designed to be driven at highway speeds for long distances. We need to demand an overdrive 6th gear. The 1932 Henderson motorcycle had 53hp and a tall overdrive gear, making it a better long distance tourer than today's bikes 92 years later. I am deeply concerned with how professional motorcycle reviewers constantly avoid talking about gear ratios, when gear ratios are the single most important thing for a long distance ADV bike. Every road bike sold for public roadways should be legally required to have an overdrive 6th gear. No exceptions. Only collusion with oil companies and a strange secret handshake can explain why every single motorcycle except Harley Davidson, is geared incorrectly (way too low).
@MotoGuzziMoto
@MotoGuzziMoto 26 күн бұрын
@@starseeddeluxe I agree with you in principle, but it is not so much whether geared high or low (that can be changed with sprockets), it is the spread of gears that is important. Adventure bikes, much like the old six day enduros really benefit from a wide ratio gearbox. However, there are limits to what the manufacturers can offer when they use the same engine for multiple models. Unfortunately for the 450, which I like a lot, the spread is not very wide. In value terms it is 282% different between 1st and 6th, compared to say the T7 at 295% and KTM 790 (and presumably 890) at 298%. Many riders may not notice because the engine is a twin and very flexible, and the higher revving nature of the engine will make this of less importance. What might be noticeable is where the 450 has a large gap of 42% between 1st and second gear, a problem shared with the KTM 790. So it may feel like you cant quite find the right gear while riding in tighter trails offroad. The T7 by comparison is 34% and feels about right.
@Der_Meikel
@Der_Meikel 25 күн бұрын
Hey Pablo - can you link your (australian) vids or channels you follow re the CFM ? Thx !! *cheers*
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance 25 күн бұрын
It looks like the gas tank uses the same design idea that Aprilia uses - the tank extends downward and beneath the seat and the airbox is located in front of it at the top. Could be wrong.
@TheMisterNebo
@TheMisterNebo 21 күн бұрын
"... chose not to see" - well said. Manufacturers like Honda, Yamaha, BMW, KTM - all of them basically ignored our pleas for a LIGHT adventure bike, pref in the 160-170kg range, with big tank, small 400-500CC twin. CFMoto delivered where all others failed - this motorbike is already a classic, it is to the adventure motorcycle industry what the iPhone 1 was to the phone industry.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 20 күн бұрын
100% agree! ..and they didnt even make it THAT light, and still, they conquered the segment. Thats how easy it would have been to any of the other manufacfturers to do the same
@RichardS-qh8mi
@RichardS-qh8mi 26 күн бұрын
Interestingly, think a lot of experienced riders are going to buy this bike as well as the new to biking. This bike has something for everyone without the need to spend a fortune like with the other manufacturers. I’ve been riding over 40 years and am going to order one.
@jaegermeister1968
@jaegermeister1968 26 күн бұрын
I have been riding a motorcycle since 1989 and have now got myself a 450mt. A great motorcycle, cheap to buy and maintain and at 56 I am no longer in a hurry
@charliequach6399
@charliequach6399 26 күн бұрын
Sound good, gents. I've been riding on roads and would do the same: getting a 'beginner ADV' and have fun everywhere.
@rstrakovsky
@rstrakovsky 25 күн бұрын
Experienced riders know that weight is your enemy offroad. If you plan on doing anything other than fire/gravel roads, a lighter bike with a more manageable motor is exactly what you want.
@charliequach6399
@charliequach6399 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, just gravel/dirt roads that lead to camp sites.
@Gmac237
@Gmac237 24 күн бұрын
​@@rstrakovskyI agree! weight reduction when off road riding is so important ! Been riding for over 50 years and sold my 1000cc heavyweight adventure bikes. Mid capacity lower weight 450s like the CF Moto make more sense and riding more enjoyable 👍
@tomtherevenant6877
@tomtherevenant6877 21 күн бұрын
Not seen your reviews before but i’m very impressed with you presentation and will watch more…….great stuff !
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 21 күн бұрын
thanks man! i appreciate it! :D
@stavrozinio
@stavrozinio 21 күн бұрын
pretty sure this is future 490/501 twin engine :) and don't worry, it will get hot when they fit it in to an orange bike with some 15hp more.
@PaulG.x
@PaulG.x 26 күн бұрын
Major engine components are cast on all motorcycles . Machined parts are way too expensive for mass production if a cast alternative is available. Some castings may look machined but won't be. Die casting can take less than a minute. CNC machining of the same part can take hours and use 20x the material
@canabrown4774
@canabrown4774 26 күн бұрын
I laughed more than i should have at the foil hat joke. Nice job on a great review.
26 күн бұрын
Same here 😂
@flybuster
@flybuster 25 күн бұрын
foil hat😂😂😂😂 very good reviews tq bro
@noelbrown6771
@noelbrown6771 26 күн бұрын
I really appreciate how you started with the " meat and potatoes " answering the questions about how the motorcycle rides and handles before going into the electronics and control features. IMO this is the better way to conduct a review. Enjoyed your review 👍
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback man! I know what you mean..and with so many reviews about this bike already, i really just wanted to focus on the personal opinions 😊
@robotech1990
@robotech1990 23 күн бұрын
The best thing about this upload is that Diogo is NOT making a review that looks more like propaganda. I expect in rhe near future a video telling us how reliable was this particular model. CFMoto hit the strings perfectly giving customers an engine size and chassis that many of us were screaming from japanese brands and we were, sadly ,never heard. Hope this is a lessson learned for those brands. GOOD JOB DIOGO!!!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 20 күн бұрын
Thanks man , i really appreciate it 😊
@OneOldManRiding
@OneOldManRiding 26 күн бұрын
I had the opportunity to go over the bike last month. I too got T7 vibes. I was shocked how much heavier it felt than my fully farkled 390 Adventure. You forgot to enntion how good to sounds with the stock pipe! - Frank
@raullc4044
@raullc4044 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this amazing review! It will be amazing to see all the new content about this bike in your channel! You are my favourite channel reviewing off road bikes :D
@starseeddeluxe
@starseeddeluxe 26 күн бұрын
Stock motorcycles are so rare they are worth a fortune. There's nothing better than a completely original motorcycle with the correct rear fender and license plate mounts and an original muffler and air box.
@jonshaw9472
@jonshaw9472 12 күн бұрын
If you buy one on PCP and decide to hand it back after 3 years then it would have to be changed back to stock.
@BlueManFPV
@BlueManFPV 26 күн бұрын
Best review ive seen so far of the 450 mt! Thank you!
@jondiaz3475
@jondiaz3475 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comprehensive review! I have a CFMoto dealership about 10 minutes from my house, and can't wait to view one in person.
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 26 күн бұрын
glad you love it. tuning in for more 450mt video.
@manugrend
@manugrend 23 күн бұрын
Perhaps the best review about this bike? Simple, straight to the point with actual real and practical points of view. Great job! 💯👍👍
@MattWietrzyk
@MattWietrzyk 26 күн бұрын
I really like how honest your opinions are. Saying things as they are. Thanks!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Making offroad great again! 😂😂
@steveh545
@steveh545 26 күн бұрын
Cool. Happy to see you back (making longer vids)
@whataboutjeff
@whataboutjeff 26 күн бұрын
Great review. I love the little funny scenes 😂👍🏼 Looking forward to more great videos with this great bike that known manufacturers didn’t want to build.
@josesantizo2305
@josesantizo2305 26 күн бұрын
I like this bike very much! I’m waiting for a bit later his year (Around my birthday) and some more long term reviews to pull the trigger on it. It sounds like a great first bike for the price and to start learning about adventure and off road driving
@mfthedronepoet9745
@mfthedronepoet9745 23 күн бұрын
Loved it, well done! Great review and humor
@TheLibr4rian
@TheLibr4rian 26 күн бұрын
Great video! I hope you will be able to compare it to the new Himalayan 450. That’s 2 bikes, which I’m currently looking at.
@hakancakr1253
@hakancakr1253 25 күн бұрын
Best rewiev for the ones who want to buy MT450, thanks OFFroad-OFFcourse.
@escapeartist7900
@escapeartist7900 25 күн бұрын
Great review. Thorough and concise. Well done
@dustifyoumust2244
@dustifyoumust2244 17 күн бұрын
Coherent and humours. A good initial look at a possible future bike. Thanks.
@user-ny1pr2wm9p
@user-ny1pr2wm9p 24 күн бұрын
Muchas gracias Diogo para tu video. Como tu pienso que es la moto (de aventurer)mas practica desde mucho tiempo y la moto que mucho gente espéra! Hasta pronto! Christophe.
@ramonsolves6736
@ramonsolves6736 15 күн бұрын
First interesting review about this bike without trying to sell it! I love your videos, Diogo. Your mixture of thorough information, clarity, honesty, humility, and fun makes you the top bike KZfaqr for me. Once you mentioned that you admire FortNine, but I put you both on the podium, Enjoy it! I'll keep watching from my CRF300L and my Transalp 650
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the words man! Fortnine is 9932 levels ahead of me, but I am glad you can even put both of us on the same sentence :P I am a BIG fan of the CRF300L and will probably make a video comparing both in a near future
@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider
@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider 25 күн бұрын
Been riding for over 30 years, currently have a BMW f750gs te and a suzuki GSXR K1 1000, I have bought this to TET and specifically to off road it. Can't wait for mine to come down
@heinschwartz7941
@heinschwartz7941 26 күн бұрын
Down to earth and practical review. Cheers 👍
@paulcollings5424
@paulcollings5424 26 күн бұрын
What a great honest review and I love your style with good English. This bike is on my list , I just hope they can quickly import enough to the UK - listen up CF Moto please , finding one at the moment is not easy , just to go and look at initially .
@jonshaw9472
@jonshaw9472 12 күн бұрын
I enquired about one today, Midwest Motos in Worcester, about 20 miles away...yes they have them in stock...yes they're all sold..Next delivery is spring '25....hopefully at the same price.
@ferkuzuel
@ferkuzuel 26 күн бұрын
Great overview, thanks for sharing Cheers!
@toddwmac
@toddwmac 26 күн бұрын
Thanks Diogo. Great review as always. Hope your insights play out and I'm excited to get my hands on one here in the US. As to the snatchy throttle, I had the same experience with my KTM 990 and added a G2 "Throttle Tamer." Things improved instantly. Not sure if they are still being made or if they might eventually work on the IBEX, but hopeful. I also agree completely that the majority of people will have a better "adventure" experience on a more approachable bike. While I love the bigger bikes in "tight conditions", I spent years getting comfortable on them in that kind of riding and those were years I could have spent developing more advanced skills and exploring more places. Cheers!
@ExeterCenturion
@ExeterCenturion 20 күн бұрын
I was so excited to ride this bike at the ABR24, but we weren't allowed to take it off road. However, on road, I just didn't like it. I was utterly gutted as I was sure this was going to be my next bike. Rode the Himmy 452 on and off road and absolutely loved it. I just can't work out what I'm missing when it comes to this bike.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 20 күн бұрын
On road this bike isn't that impressive (or at least, its not game changing in anyway). Also, I feel that this suspension needs to be adjusted to everyone's personal taste... its very adjustable, very capable, but its definitely not a "one size fits all"... you need to make it your own, otherwise it will feel a bit crap (too stiff and reactive). Where this bike shines, is on fast off-road (I dont mean easy offroad, I mean fast... ride fast over stuff, deal with things by accelerating, fly over obstables, etc etc). Its surprsingly good in the hands of a capable rider (and thats why I am not recommending it as a good beginers bike) :)
@alexhardcore4077
@alexhardcore4077 25 күн бұрын
This review is super top !!! Great respect from Romania !
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
thanks man! I appreciate it!
@caldaemon
@caldaemon 26 күн бұрын
Great review! Thank you!
@YTubFan
@YTubFan 23 күн бұрын
Excellent review thanks!
@TelmoMartinho
@TelmoMartinho 26 күн бұрын
Best review 👌Diogo did he’s homework very well, touched the important points, I really liked the conclusion that this bike is for the humble rider, very good analysis. Hope that in the next videos there will be a comparison with the CRF300 Rally and/or AJP bike 😉
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching man! And yeah, i will be comparing it to the crf300l at least 😂
@robertkoper3039
@robertkoper3039 26 күн бұрын
Good first opinion and discussion for whom this bike is.I think that if you use it for 2 years the way you used your Yamaha it will have proven itself for most riders.As you rightly say most riders will not need an expensive,,100 %,,bike and 80 % will be more that enough.I hope it will be a huge succes for the manufacturer and that the Japanese hurry to bring out some affordable similar bike.I am impressed with the stuff you get for little more than the crf 300 costs😊
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
It will be hard for any bike in this world to withstand the amount of abuse (and lack of maintenance) my xt660r endured 😅
@Andrew-eg4ss
@Andrew-eg4ss 21 күн бұрын
Great review details,well done
@DanDan-he2vw
@DanDan-he2vw 26 күн бұрын
Intelligent description of this bike and what better than coming from an owner and not just some random youtuber
@bosoceansport2068
@bosoceansport2068 25 күн бұрын
I love your videos Diogo. I own a T7 world raid and have had a CRF300Rally and many other off road bikes. I recently rode my friends the 450MT on gravel trails . Everything you have said in this video is accurate and good advice in my opinion. Keep up the great work. I hope to come and ride with you one day when I travel over from Oz.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
Glad to see my thoughts confirmed! And thank you for watching my videos man :D Excuse my ignorance but what is "Oz"?
@Gmac237
@Gmac237 24 күн бұрын
Ozstralia! You know, the home of kangaroos, boomerangs and koala bears ! Throw another shrimp on the barbi 🦘🪃 😂
@MsSjaakvaak
@MsSjaakvaak 24 күн бұрын
What might help with the jerky throttle is something called a booster plug (or many of the cheaper and smarter made versions that you can find through google) . It's a modified air intake sensor that fakes the engine into thinking it's 20 degrees colder outside than it is in reality, thereby giving a richer fuel/air mixture. It will be overrun after a few seconds by all other sensor, but it will effective in the first few seconds after changing the throttle position. It made my 2018 Africa twin a whole lot smoother and a lot less engine braking.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 24 күн бұрын
I will for sure try this! than you very much
@pabloricardodetarragon2649
@pabloricardodetarragon2649 21 күн бұрын
That a very interesting tip. Thanks.
@edgecr
@edgecr 18 күн бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse theres a video on yt with instructions on the 800mt remap for a jerky trottle maybe you can try since the os should be the same. cheers
@ricardovieira3385
@ricardovieira3385 14 күн бұрын
There’s already a ecu update !
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 13 күн бұрын
@@ricardovieira3385 really? On the motorcycle's firmware update? I tried mine this morning and didnt show any new updates available. My version is SW.1.00.23 whats yours?
@fareneightfpv8382
@fareneightfpv8382 24 күн бұрын
very nice try and comments, thank you very much !
@ricardooliveira4498
@ricardooliveira4498 26 күн бұрын
another great video!!!!👏👏👏
@AlexWordsworth
@AlexWordsworth 21 күн бұрын
The best review of the bike so far, thank you. Would you recommend it for beginners?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 20 күн бұрын
Not necessarily... if offroading is your thing, then the crf300l is a MUCH better and versatile begginers bike :)
@TaavP
@TaavP 26 күн бұрын
I really just ove the vibe of his videos, I don't even have a motorbike (even though I'm thinking about buying one (thinking for many years xD ) ) and I see all his videos. Esta é efetivamente uma mota que me faz pensar em comprar mais cedo do que tarde
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Fogo...nao imaginas como fico feliz de ver que até malta sem moto gosta dos meus videos! Acho quase impossivel, porque quase so falo de pormenores técnicos 😅
@Carter0steph
@Carter0steph 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the revieuw. This the baby Ténére that we where waiting for 🤫🤭
@mechwarrior83
@mechwarrior83 25 күн бұрын
thank you for a fantastic review. you addressed my one concern about this otherwise seemingly excellent bike, the twitchy throttle. I don't mind the clutch but it can get annoying off road. good to know however it can be fixed with a remap. it is seeming more and more likely I will have to part with the saving for this very soon.
@amedeoavogadro1522
@amedeoavogadro1522 26 күн бұрын
Grandissimo, bellissima recensione
@ThoreRitter
@ThoreRitter 26 күн бұрын
Nice review!
@alexmoreno8156
@alexmoreno8156 26 күн бұрын
Great review! Only thing it’s missing is cruise control.
@Rayraysplums
@Rayraysplums 25 күн бұрын
That's for highway riding this bike isn't designed for that purpose.
@janconmoto
@janconmoto 15 күн бұрын
Great review, got mine a few weeks ago and totally agree with you. The jerky throttle makes me wonder too, but that's all I've found so far, the first few kilometres I found the front brake weak, but after 500-600km it has settled down and works well for now. 🙂
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 12 күн бұрын
In theory they already fixed that throttle with the new firmware. The bike will update itself if i am not mistaken (I am looking into it as we speak)
@TheCharlieUY
@TheCharlieUY 26 күн бұрын
Great Review!
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 24 күн бұрын
Excellent look at the 450MT IBEX. I agree that the cast parts shouldn't be an issue, they aren't the stressed members.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 24 күн бұрын
Hey man! nice "seeing" you again :D
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 24 күн бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Same here my off road brother! Keep those videos coming and safe enjoyable rides!
@cowcar87
@cowcar87 8 күн бұрын
Excellent review.
@fredericooliveira-cc2mb
@fredericooliveira-cc2mb 26 күн бұрын
Os melhores reviews de motas!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Estragas-me com mimos! 😂
@davidz8
@davidz8 26 күн бұрын
Mine is coming mid July, I am really glad you like it because I respect your judgement, I will put a 15t front sprocket on to relax the gearing a bit, other than that I will leave it stock as it already comes with most things I would normally add.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Congrats man! I hope we both dont regret it xD
@slakk5093
@slakk5093 26 күн бұрын
Handguards would be worthwhile
@davidz8
@davidz8 26 күн бұрын
@@slakk5093 Oh yes, hand guards as well.
@13thearl
@13thearl 23 күн бұрын
A very impressive review indeed. These things are like hen's teeth in the UK but I hope to get a test ride at some point.
@siimsakib
@siimsakib 25 күн бұрын
FINALLY somebody speaks about the negatives
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
I tried to be fair, but to be honest I still didnt see a lot of negatives :/
@howardmann5634
@howardmann5634 26 күн бұрын
Perfect review top job
@5Aerim
@5Aerim 26 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 26 күн бұрын
its a beauty - enjoy
@ordep2756
@ordep2756 26 күн бұрын
Excelente vídeo! Boa explicação. Os navios Ro-Ro estão cheias de motos CF moto é uma marca em voga.
@bwlyon
@bwlyon 20 күн бұрын
If the masses can get over the fact that this is a Chinese motorcycle, it should sell like hot cakes at a Mrs Buttersworth convention! The fact is this is so very close to what the market has been demanding for a while now. It’s not perfect, but dang is it close to unicorn territory. Glad you are out there enjoying the 450MT.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 19 күн бұрын
I agree 100%! If this thing was 15kg lighter it would be the unicorn. I am running some tests to see how light i can make mine without destroying it xD
@ruigodas
@ruigodas 26 күн бұрын
Adorei a parte do papel de prata na cabeça. Poucos perceberão a ironia. Top
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Ainda assim acho q vou la ligar aquilo e ver o que acontece...pode ser que comece a minar bitcoin 😂😂
@alc8782
@alc8782 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review. Most Engine components are casts, they CNC the casts. Piston and head is cnc from block.
@zardportugal
@zardportugal 26 күн бұрын
Diogo, conteúdo TOP. Venha o próximo video.
@michaelidarecis
@michaelidarecis 5 күн бұрын
Casting for visible parts is fine the mating parts are always machined. Bikes machining their castings for visible look is for form
@stephensudlow6938
@stephensudlow6938 25 күн бұрын
Nice review
@lalalalelelele7961
@lalalalelelele7961 7 күн бұрын
Cast vs CNC Milled, the downside of casting is the chance of air bubbles in the metal which could lead to cracks. On the good side, it also makes it cheaper to replace.
@BeatPatrol420
@BeatPatrol420 25 күн бұрын
You are an absolute legend, so far your reviews on the CFMoto 450MT are the best I have found! OBRIGADO! Is there an option in Europe to get it with the off-road high front fender? All videos I have seen in Asia have the off-road front fender which makes much more sense for this bike. Would love to hear an in-depth analysis on the KYB suspensions, most people that have used the 450MT say that the OEM suspension settings are too stiff and that you need to take some time to find the right setting for your weight/usage (hard enduro>offroad>street). I am mentioning this because most of the "big boy" ADVs out there have suspensions that are not capable of handling their weight when you throw them in difficult situations so they bottom-out quite often when doing jumps. In my opinion this bike will appeal not only to beginners but even to the more experienced HUMBLE riders that have mammoths like the KTM 890 ADV, BMW 900 GS, Ducati Desert X, Suzuki V Strom 800DE etc.; because like you said my friend, sometimes less is more! Some of the experienced older riders out there are tired of breaking their backs every time their bike lays down or having to tip-toe on a giraffe when at low speed in traffic. I genuinely believe that CFMoto have created the mid-weight ADV unicorn by listening to what the users were asking for. Never thought these words would come out of my mouth regarding a motorbike made in China, it seems like this marks the beginning of a new era. BYD has basically done the same in the EV car segment (not that I would ever buy one don't worry hehe).
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
Hello! Thanks for you words, man :D Yeah I found the suspension too stiff at first (i weight 75kg + gear) and only after tunning down the preload the bike became "plush". The suspension is remarkable but it feels like a "short blanket"...when you cover your head, your feet will be uncovered xD So, if I tune it to be comfortable on the small and slow stuff, it becomes a bit too soft for big rocks at high speed, and vice versa. I am still playing with it and each day I seem to be closer to a setting that really satisfies me...so i still have hope :P For now I cant tell you anything else cause i dont know
@normananderson2583
@normananderson2583 18 күн бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Will be good to know the settings you feel are working best for you under variable conditions..possibly you could recommend settings for off-road and settings more appropriate for black top. I think most of us here consider your comments and results and much more valuable than most of the so called expert reviews. You have tremendous experience with off-road motorcycles as it is your business and joy! We appreciate all of your input!
@thescandiflicktv
@thescandiflicktv 25 күн бұрын
One happy Diogo 💪🏻😜 Why don’t more dual sport bikes consider engines like this, it’s a mystery to me, amazing sound and smoothness instead of an LC4 that sounds like all the wheels and bolts are rattling loose around when you ride it. See you in October my friend 🏍️💨
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
Exactly! Would it be so hard to put this engine on a KTM690-like frame? Of course instead of 150kg you'd get 160 or 165kg but I could definitely live with that! (I mean... i can live with 195 so... xD)
@thescandiflicktv
@thescandiflicktv 25 күн бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse i want that, or rather, I NEED that 😂
@sanderdol1
@sanderdol1 25 күн бұрын
Excellent content, as always. As a retired adv rider I still like to follow the news on new adv oriented motor cycles. I would like to have your opinion on the new Royal Enfield 450 Himalayan :)
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
I didnt try it yet!... I didnt even see one live yet :/
@hondaslex
@hondaslex 11 күн бұрын
Hello Diogo, the best review on KZfaq so far. Just test rode this bike today. It was a blast. The only thing I was not so happy about was the throttle jerkiness, but it sould be smoothed out with a change of the front sprocket to 15 teeth. Even taking it to the "offroad" the Engine has enough grunt to cope with it. Waiting for more content from you. P.s. MT stays for Mini Tenere? ;-)
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 7 күн бұрын
MT = Mini Tenere! Oh i like that! xD In theory, the new firmware update fixes (almost entirely) the throttle jerkiness :) I am yet to test it... in Europe you need to get that update from the dealer, you cant use the wifi :( There is also a product (Coober ECU) that is supposed to fix the problem and wake up a few more horses... i am going to test it shortly
@lukaszperun3079
@lukaszperun3079 23 күн бұрын
Also you haven't mentioned that lower part of engine frame is also replaceable and not many bikes have that option. Nice review.
@granoz6666
@granoz6666 25 күн бұрын
13:28 this sums up why I'm gonna get this lol. My main bike is a tracer 9 GT for Onroad and this will be my toy to try out on offroad adventures. Maybe I'll decide to sell everything and upgrade to a AT. If not then at least it's a fun and cheap toy to play with.
@testkanal3599
@testkanal3599 25 күн бұрын
try the boosterplug - gets rid of the jerkiness... put it on my gs800 and it works perfectly
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 25 күн бұрын
Interesting...I will look into that :)
@gbner9991
@gbner9991 26 күн бұрын
Cool bike. I really like that it has tubeless. I think it could use a talk seat maybe
@jonshaw9472
@jonshaw9472 12 күн бұрын
You can get one for about 120 euros, it raises the height by 50 mm to 870.. at 6'2 I will need one as well.
@craigdrury3900
@craigdrury3900 26 күн бұрын
BMW G310GS 2021 model is Euro 5 and has smooth throttle response from 0% - no jerky throttle.
@sanatandharma4435
@sanatandharma4435 26 күн бұрын
I cannot get a test ride on this till September in Asturias and I have to put down a 1000 euro deposit! It's so popular.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Wow thats crazy 😮😮 glad i got mine on time...
@JohannesDalen
@JohannesDalen 19 күн бұрын
Excellent review amigo, makes me interested in this bike! The budget YSS suspension upgrades did wonders to your 300L's - do you think YSS (or similar budget oriented suspension makers (no need to throw Ohlins on a budget ADV)) will improve it as much as it did with the 300s?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 19 күн бұрын
I think that rear shock deserves some sort of upgrade. Maybe it can be worked instead of replaced... I am still testing, adjusting, experimenting and trying to reach conclusions. Honestly, i think the front suspension is working just fine! things can always be even better but I dont think the front is the weak link at all....the shock, maybe :P
@tomtom8552
@tomtom8552 26 күн бұрын
Awesome review. Can you get access to the service manual for those who would want to do their own service?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
I didnt find the garage manual yet, but the owners manual has everything you might need (except for super advanced operations of course)
@chrisstocking284
@chrisstocking284 24 күн бұрын
Good review Diogo. I wonder if your preference for tubeless tires stems from a Monday morning in May in the hills above Piodao? 🤔
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 24 күн бұрын
Never again shall i or my descendants suffer 2 or 3 flats in a row! :D Nice seeing you here Chris!
@warrenr4
@warrenr4 22 күн бұрын
I’ll reserve judgement on this bike for a couple of years until I’ve seen owner’s reviews with 30k kms on the clock.
@paveldariusbogdan4367
@paveldariusbogdan4367 15 күн бұрын
Hello there , i heard a lot of this bike and also you review is veri informative an well done , i am also wondering what do you think about the noe himalayan 450 ? it the cfmto competition in specs as price
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 12 күн бұрын
I haven't tried the Himalayan. I think, in general, they will be very similar bikes (or, bettter said, capable of doing very similar things) but the 450MT will be the "racy" one, and the other one will be the "calm and smooth" one. This is only based on the reviews that I've been seeing...
@Frakaphoto
@Frakaphoto 13 сағат бұрын
thanks for this very nice and honest review. I use a Honda 300CRF RALLY for cool road trip ( excellent bike 1/3 less weight and 1/3 less power ) . I plan to replace my 1250GS ( too heavy ) for an other one on a different house and this one is top list . I don’t like the lower exhaust and weight but… I understand bi-cylinder is most of the time 40 kg more heavy than single ….
@mikethompson7046
@mikethompson7046 26 күн бұрын
Really interesting:) What I don't like is the cockpit. I don't know why but I can't have a cockpit that doesn't tilt when I steer :D make it 5-10kg lighter and it's perfect. Do you think it might be a fitting replacement when my drz eventually dies ?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Hello! It will feel like a whale compared to a drz 😂 One is 125kg, the other is 195 😮 Think of this like a slightly smaller big adv bike, not like a twin cilinder dual-sport 😅
@overboost7667
@overboost7667 16 күн бұрын
Is there in the COC-Documentation another Dimension for the rear tire instead of the 140/70-18 ? Possibly 140/80-18 ? That would open vast possibilities for tire options. 140/70-18 is very limited.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 12 күн бұрын
I dont know about documentantion, sorry. Howeverm, in some countries I believe you can deviate from the stock dimensions by 5% (which would make the 140/80 a usable size).
@stakanas1
@stakanas1 22 күн бұрын
@OFFroad-OFFcourse , How do you compare offroad capability with your XT660r ? I have same Xt660r with some propper knobby rubber and was thinking to trade it for 690 .. as im doing mostly wood / sand - it feelt too heawy, but when you think to get rid of all vibrations for tarmac parts.... and get 2 cylinders.... thats tempting for sure..
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 21 күн бұрын
Offroad, the 450MT is definitely superior to the STOCK XT660R, I have no doubt about that, however, for sand and "single tracks" the 690 will definitely be even better. Its just like you said...this feels like a twin cilinder XT660R with adjustable suspension :P
@philippegosseau
@philippegosseau 26 күн бұрын
Great video Diogo ! 450 MT's for rent soon?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Naaah, i dont think so. People crash my CRFs 572 times a day and they only survive cause they have almost nothing to break... the 450MT on the other hand would look like a pretzel after 1 week 😂😂
@pal9878
@pal9878 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for this! 👍 If it wasn’t for the price difference, would you have opted for the KTM 890 instead?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
If i could buy a 890 for this price, i would. The reason why i didnt try to buy a KTM is: A) a bit too much money for what i want to spend B) WAY too much money for the perceived reliability To spend that kind of money i would want a bomb proof bike that lasts 30 years 😂
@pal9878
@pal9878 25 күн бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Noted. And makes absolutely sense, I think 👌 Thanks for commenting 👍
@Midnightpurpler34
@Midnightpurpler34 25 күн бұрын
I am curious if CFMoto will release a 300cc 2-stroke model, considering their partnership with KTM.
@miguelprando_959
@miguelprando_959 26 күн бұрын
Mi sembra che tu abbia trovato la quadra: il tempo ce lo dirà. Sempre bello seguirti Ciao 🛵
@Getting-On
@Getting-On 18 күн бұрын
How has it been after the off-road (off-course)? Any rattles or missing parts?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 18 күн бұрын
So far, absolutely perfect :o
@benynicula3584
@benynicula3584 23 күн бұрын
Nice video,thank's for the info.I own one and am thankful that I bought it,and look forward to learning about it because you seem to know more about adventure bikes and setup's for them.I noticed that yours has the back suspension on the lowest point,mine is on the other one,and I am 178 cm tall,and around 79,80 kg I think I wil lower it,because nou as it is I can only touch the ground with half of mi fot ,to the tip,not flat foot it.If I lower it,do I need to lower the front suspension or can I leave it and check how it feels just with the back lower,and see how it banances first... Also is it hard to lower the suspension,can I do it on my own ,I have a garage with tools and a stand,so I think I can do it on my own
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 23 күн бұрын
I am trying mine with the lower back and "normal" front. I like the stability of the bike in this setup, but i will also try the normal back soon (because i didnt give it a propwr chance). Adjusting the suspension is suuuuper important in this bike, as it feels too rough/stiff with the stock setup. Lowerin the bike is not very hard, but you need to put the bike on a stand with the rear wheel off the ground. You can do it alone but its easier with a friend to move the wheel up and down while you remove/put the bolts that hold the parts together. I might do a video about that too
@benynicula3584
@benynicula3584 23 күн бұрын
​@@OFFroadOFFcoursethank's for the reply and for the advice.If I don't manage to lower it before your video I will sourly watch it to know better what I have to do.Also I am thinking of changing the tail tydi for a lighter one
@benynicula3584
@benynicula3584 23 күн бұрын
I like the model of the tail tydi that you mounted.Can you put a link to it in here? thanks
@nmk-zd2vu
@nmk-zd2vu 23 күн бұрын
Would you recommend it as a first bike? Living in a country where you must start under 47hp and really into adventure bikes and needs to be able to ride on long road trip (that’s why crf300l is not an option)
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 23 күн бұрын
Hello! No, i wouldnt not recommend it :o It is still very heavy to learn...it doesnt mean that you cant ride it, but you will learn 5x slower than on a crf300l (and have 5 times less fun until you become good) 😅 Also, this bike has a very snappy throttle,its a bit of a nightmare at low speeds for those who are not very confortable using the clutch. As a last note: this bike is more confortable than a CRF but will travel just as far at +/- the same speed. In other words,the CRF300 is by far the best begginers (and not only) dua-sport / small adv bike in my opinion.
@Vallecaucanisimo
@Vallecaucanisimo 26 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this review. Initially I felt it was too heavy for the power but maybe it’s just right. Just one question: how easy is it to replace the air filter? Cheers!
@lefterisbampaidis5446
@lefterisbampaidis5446 26 күн бұрын
2 allen screws under the seat. Very easy. And yes, 195kg wet, is not light.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
The air filter is under the seat and the lid is held by 2 bolts. Its a 1min job 😮
@Vallecaucanisimo
@Vallecaucanisimo 26 күн бұрын
Yeah I feel the same but it’s cheaper that the CB500X (or whatever is called now). Specs and features are good for the price… Yeah you lose some of that honda reliability and dealer network but once again, better specs and lower price. I don’t know it’s the right bike for me but the seat is low and it looks like a decent attempt… for the price. The next step is to wait for the new KTM 390 adventure to finally drop. Im excited about it and hope it’s not a downer. Let’s wait and see how it goes!
@Vallecaucanisimo
@Vallecaucanisimo 26 күн бұрын
Thank you! That sounds easy for sure.
@miro_s
@miro_s 26 күн бұрын
Hey Diogo! Very curious about this bike. It’s the sort of thing I was hoping for, couldn’t test ride it yet and wondering whether 44bhp is on the low side for the weight of nearly 200kg. Perhaps either 20kg less or 200cc more would have been perfection?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 26 күн бұрын
Hey man! Yes of course, i'd love to have this bike with 10-20kg less, but it what it is... 😅
@mnap89
@mnap89 26 күн бұрын
Power and weight are limited by A2 license. It has little less power than max limit for A2, and its little too heavy for minimum weight A2 limit. With its current power of32,5kW it could weigh 162,5kg dry to pass a2 requirement. If CFMoto would increase its power to 35kW they it would need to be 175kg dry.
@vocalsg13
@vocalsg13 20 күн бұрын
Hey Diogo, love the review once again. For a beginner rider (10years riding a Honda Innova) at 1.71cm, looking for an all-use bike and do off-road, my choice was a crf300rally but it felt too tall... Would you suggest to choose the lower height of the mt, or the lower weight of the crf? Also the mt is so much cheaper and fully equipped, but it's not yet known if it will break apart and I'm no mechanic haha... Muito obrigado
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 20 күн бұрын
I think the crf300l is a much much easier bike. The MT , being an adventure bike with almost 200kg is still a bike that will make more sense to someone taller and with more experience. Believe me, the crf300l is the bike that can take anyone around the word over any terrain (and bring them back :p)
@vocalsg13
@vocalsg13 20 күн бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse My best friend has a 300l (not the Rally) and it's an amazing bike for sure. I just feel a bit scared that in the city traffic (and in difficult enduro in the mountains) I won't be able to put my feet on the ground. Thank you, I will be waiting for your adventures and in-depth comments on the 450mt!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 20 күн бұрын
@@vocalsg13 lets put it this way: if you are scared of dropping a crf, you will be terrified of the 450mt...even if its slightly lower :) Remember you can lower the crf significantly with a cheapo lowering link from aliexprees
@user-ny1pr2wm9p
@user-ny1pr2wm9p 24 күн бұрын
Hello Diogo! Cual es là différencia entre un guardabarros alta y bajo en utilidad? Gracias , hasta luego .
@OFFroadOFFcourse
@OFFroadOFFcourse 24 күн бұрын
Hello! I think there is a "real" difference. They both work well. If you use very knobby tires and ride on a lot of mud, maybe the low one will become cluttered and that will be a problem.
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