Old Cars & Obsolete Parts - Upgrading the Magna Ralliart's Brakes Using Custom Made Bits!

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Жыл бұрын

So I wanted to upgrade the brakes on my Magna Ralliart, only to discover that you simply can't buy some of the bits any more. Nobody makes them! So today we're working out what fits, and what we need to do to get it all working properly. #motoringbox
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@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Just a reminder that all product links are in the video description, but here's a summary: *Front rotors:* RDA RDA7625D *Front pads:* EBC Ultimax2 - DP0954 *Rear rotors:* RDA RDA7624D *Rear pads:* RDA GP MAX - MIT-RDB1231-105 TLDR: You need to use Magna AWD Pads and Rotors, with the rear rotors needing a spacer.

@johncostin8294 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see the car painted

@irisgrim6313 Жыл бұрын

You are a bloody legend for having this available for those who need them.

@ChrisArmstrong-ir3fg Жыл бұрын

I think painting her would finish off the magic work that you’ve done so far … the icing on the cake, cheers mouse

@ChristopherHallett Жыл бұрын

A quick note for the future - always ring around any "makerspaces" near to you - some of them have waterjet cutting tables, you could get a set of custom spacers made like that for little more than the cost of a big enough sheet of alloy to fit 4 on it. Also a donation to the makerspace to help keep it going.

@roderzzz Жыл бұрын

Damn where were you 15 years ago! Love the content, doing the old Aussie Magna Owners proud.

@turn6garage640 Жыл бұрын

Great video, I would paint it, there are plenty of Magnas with paint peel but few with perfect paint. The world of older cars can be strange at times, anything European, Korean and American you usually can get thanks to multiple OEs still making parts and the various websites selling them in their respective continents. Japanese and Australian cars can be ok to source parts but the rare and unusual ones seem to be the hardest and require engineering solutions (like your spacer) to make what is available fit. Normally it’s the little parts that are the hardest to source such as hoses and connectors.

@user-gl1ok2tz9p Жыл бұрын

Thank you, he found everything in the description. 🙏😊

@dazzamac70 Жыл бұрын

The Magna needs to be painted so that it looks as good as it drives!!!👌

@cliffynjovelyn893 Жыл бұрын

That was a genius move with the rear brakes! Would love to see it painted, maybe a collab with a paint shop in Ipswich or Brissy?

@UCkFvZiCmKQ34UOsW8pJ4TDg Жыл бұрын

Get her painted, mate. These cars are an awesome bit of automotive history. I wish I could get one myself.

@TheRealMrCods Жыл бұрын

Glad you got it sorted 👍

@donthitmeimwoozy Жыл бұрын

Omg this amazing, ive been stretching all the life i can out my rotors for this very reason.

@neilasd3043 2 күн бұрын

Good job old boy..

@artilleryboy1 Жыл бұрын

@4:28 Mass effect Club Music!!! Up the Magna/Verada!!

@craigkeogh9570 Жыл бұрын

Use a bungee cord to secure the calliper, when you take it off the rotor to ensure it dosent fall off. Its easy to hook up under the car as well

@2007seno Жыл бұрын

Defo for a respray no doubt shiny new black with almost new enkei wheels. It. Would. Pop. That and fix the drivers seat bolster and you’re done 👍 very underrated Aussie modem classic

@jamesbeasley1753 Жыл бұрын

Mate I love the old school need for speed music! Haven’t heard it in about 18 years and recognised it straight away

@Tayeedz1 Жыл бұрын

Sean coming in hot with the music selection and timing

@ms_enj Жыл бұрын

I know it’s not a cheap option, Sean, but I’m hoping she gets a lick of paint, too. This car is just screaming to be a rolling testament to the phrase “restored to it’s former glory.”

@vlockley Жыл бұрын

Good work with that spacer. I want to see it painted!

@ebv8 Жыл бұрын

Not sure if it would have worked in your case but for us AU owners who have put territory rear brakes on we spaced the rear calipers 3mm using washers. It sets the caliper back to suit the disc.

@NERGYStudios Жыл бұрын

That car looks just magnificent with those wheels! You should reeeeeeely get some mad photos with a good backdrop mate!

@murraylaw834 Жыл бұрын

Try putting Penetrol on the peeling and faded areas of the paint. It’s made by Flood and you get it at Bunnings. It’s an oil that’s meant for rust protection and sealing timber but it works very well as a wipe on clear coat

@GForceVRX Жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing work Sean! Thank you for this invaluable for us that own these Ralliart’s. We all appreciate it immensely!

@pcorf Жыл бұрын

10:00 the ABS is working well too. I'm not a TJ Ralliart owner but I do have a TJ Sports and the ABS has saved me a couple of times, it does work well. Your choice if you want to repaint it, the sable black pearl had a deep green hue to it and it looked great in the day when these cars were new 20+ years ago.

@todd_harrison4500 Жыл бұрын

Not all heroes ware capes!!💪😅 Well done mate!👌

@TheKnobCalledTone. Жыл бұрын

I saw a minty fresh red Magna Ralliart at the local servo the other day. Driven by an old dude. Made me smile seeing it. I wonder if he's had it since new?

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Probably would have been! Only cars that have been garaged and looked after since new would be in a condition like that. Unless he's had it resprayed I guess.

@tractorguy1994 10 ай бұрын

Love the car! Great video quality also. Would be good to see it resprayed in that original colour.

@MrVarvarVoom Жыл бұрын

Well dome on your troubleshooting and ingenuity Sean

@coreycvetovac8044 Жыл бұрын

Definitely painted! In one of the last shots of the video it looked like it had a bit of green pearl to it? Not sure of the factory colour but looks great so far. Maybe when you go to do the wheel bearings, go back and paint up the callipers😉

@user-vk4vd7vr5t Жыл бұрын

Sable Black is the colour name of this. You are corrext in that It has a green metallic flake through it that looks incredible in the sun

@amromano03 Жыл бұрын

Love your content, keep it up! :) Just letting you know that the Front RDA Slotted and Dimpled Brake Disc Rotors you accidentally fitted them opposite left and right. The Rear Slotted and Dimpled Brake Disc Rotors were fitted in the correct orientation. The inside of the box show a picture of the correct orientation. I work for an RDA Accredited Supplier and I use these Brake Disc Rotors every day.

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Cheers, yeah I realised that later - will be swapping them around soon.

@jzab Жыл бұрын

Great work Sean, I did a similar thing on my Subaru Leone with a Crossbred Brake rear disc conversion that needed a little adjustment. I only needed 2 mm though and I home made them out of 2mm aluminium plate. It's amazing how accurate you can be with a little bit of care and a 1:1 print out of the CAD design stuck to the sheet as a guide.

@user-ye1se9qm8m Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for you to hit your head on the open locker thing haha

@leosheppard8517 Жыл бұрын

Heya mate… looking nice and tidy. It’s perfect time for bearings…. Hehe

@davidvincent2838 Жыл бұрын

I reckon paint it Sean if its witin the budget. Its a classic that deserves to be brought back to former glory I reckon.

@shannonireland9057 Жыл бұрын

Great thinking and problem solving Shawn! The spacers were a great idea💡

@johnvirus01 Жыл бұрын

380 brakes wont work on the rear, but the benefit of using the awd magna setup(as factory ralliart does) means you have waaay more pad and rotor options as they are also used on the evo 5,EC5A/W legnum and galant and cj lancer ralliart(as well as other cars mitsubishi pulled these out of the parts bin for). the official stats from MMAL state the front as a 26% increase for the front and 35% on the rear in braking efficiency.(also sean, i have a factory bulletin from mmal with official stats regarding the changes to the ralliart) Unfortunately, these factory rotors have been unobtanium for years. DBA do have a part number, but they are unable to be ordered from them and we believe mitsubishi may have put a block on DBA selling them. All you need now is a set of braided brake lines(HEL ones for a legnum/galant will work) to top it all off. Also to anyone mentioning that its dangerous running this spacer, all mitsubishi did is to make the hat of the rotor 3.7mm larger. Effectively it has that spacer homologated and built in from factory.

@wiked3801 Жыл бұрын

And there it is.... 3.7 mm difference between the hat size.

@lappin6482 Жыл бұрын

great work sean 👏

@lobsterwhisperer7932 Жыл бұрын

Vast majority of these have rusted out, this one looks clean, I reckon its worth your money getting it resprayed, definitely will get the money back and more when you sell it.

@j06sh_w Жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure watching your videos Sean, thanks

@mahcooharper9577 Жыл бұрын

Good on you for making that product, it's really hard when you have a rare car to find solutions like that. And yes, I think it definitely needs to be painted. It deserves it and now that the interior is nice the exterior should be too.

@georgehatzi6625 Жыл бұрын

Well done great work.

@qshank2752 Жыл бұрын

As a valiant owner redo the paint if you can afford it. You never see these things anymore or the old vals which were never treated well. If not you have already done a great job. I'm not a magna fan but your content is amazing.

@LockyH Жыл бұрын

Great video mate, loved the comedy and the editing 👍🏻

@RackieD Жыл бұрын

Those discs on the rear are so cute!!! They're TINY!!!

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

284mm from memory! I think the ones on the AU were 287mm.

@ChristopherHallett Жыл бұрын

Lol the FRONT discs on a Datsun 180B wagon are 232mm solid discs. The pads are smaller than a business card.

@goosegarage78 Жыл бұрын

Those konis look like they could use a birthday.

@FuManchu5ltr Жыл бұрын

Here’s me sipping my coffee watching. You know that scene when Maverick requests a flyby of the tower and does it anyway? Well when you dropped, “them’s the brakes”, I didn’t see it coming and I wore my coffee down the front of my shirt and said, “God damn it Sean!” As I brushed it off my shirt.

@user-pl5xx4he2x Жыл бұрын

Definitely get it repainted 👌

@MrRouguet Жыл бұрын

Very nice content. I'm a viewer from the Netherlands who currently owns an American version Mitsubishi diamante VRX from 2002, coincidentally black. I can get some parts for it here in Europe when searching by part numbers, but some parts are truly unique to the diamante/magna platform, like the rear discs indeed, had those shipped from the USA! I am however looking for a vrx bodykit from Australia as that market had a one off kit! A ralliart bodykit is out the question as they are so rare... Again awesome content.

@ebzery Жыл бұрын

so on my au xr8 brake upgrade to gt bf rear brakes i used 3mm ht washers on the caliper mounts to space the pads across about $1.60 for 4 i think that would work the same except your wheels or now spaced further out. nice clean job well done.

@MattBlack6 Жыл бұрын

Hey Scotty I rang the bell. Well I already rang that bell quite a while ago.

@ThePowerbloke Жыл бұрын

Good job mate.

@1969Risky Жыл бұрын

Great video on the brakes Sean. I still thought you'd be able to pick up the rear rotors like you can on Fords or Holdens. In regards to your question on the paintwork, I'd say do a closed door respray. A lot of the prep work you can do yourself. Have a chat to a spraypainter around your area and they'll tell you what you can do so it wont cost you an arm or a leg. Remember that prices have gone up on paint & sundries. If you're wondering what paint system to use, I recommend Baslac which is made by BASF. The results will astonish you, if painted well. Just look at the smash repair places & see if they use it.

@auscarlover7485 Жыл бұрын

Wow hopped on the phone and this popped up straight away, love the content

@davidbarnsley8486 Жыл бұрын

Sean I have a 94 ef falcon and I am having trouble with parts for that now especially inside bits And there were thousands built so I understand were you are coming from But yes a Magna and then rallyart on top of that , yes that’s next level difficult 👍👍

@ryziehester675 Жыл бұрын

Definitely painted will look unreal

@tehocamien323 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@skymit5519 Жыл бұрын

I vote yes for some paint!

@Devastator0 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Sean! I must say that you are an absolute legend to the Magna community for getting those spacers made and making them available to people to buy. I know it’s a niche thing but fuck me, there will be owners who will appreciate that so much. To touch on your question about the paint, hands down get it resprayed. I know you probably won’t get a full ROI on it but man, it’ll be so sick driving around in that car in it’s prime. You’ve put so much work into it already, why not go balls deep 😂. Gotta also say that the drop in of that blue screen, gold, gave me a chuckle, as an IT guy, seeing that thrown in haha. Honestly though, keep up the great work, I know the Magna has been a bit of a ballache and you’d rather go back to the Falcons but as a Falcon tragic myself, I’m hooked onto each step of this car. Can’t wait for the next installment and I really do hope you go the respray option, I think it’ll turn out great!

@garagelifestyle Жыл бұрын

Good on ya Seano.

@radius4914 Жыл бұрын

Awesome 😃😃

@PaddyBoy644 Жыл бұрын

Maybe try a home paint job or raptor line it? Great work mate

@deanjohnson712 Жыл бұрын

Please paint it🙏love your work but that is doing my head in😁

@HazeyAuto Жыл бұрын

There's something in this setup that, once reworked slightly and a rotor manufacturer sourced that could do custom units- to enable E-Series Falcons the ability to run AU- onwards offset wheels. Very intriguing.

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

I think the difference in offset between E-Series and AU is pretty big though - something like 30mm?

@HazeyAuto Жыл бұрын

Nothing some longer wheelstuds can’t fix… *Wink*

@MitchZero9 Жыл бұрын

Nice. Yeah got to paint it.

@heathmurphy3735 Жыл бұрын

That straight face double pad lol

@RypienGT Жыл бұрын

Nice to have some good stopping power again I bet.

@JBurford Жыл бұрын

Nice video Sean, good information and a nice way of getting our struggles out there. The reason for the difference is that not many manufacturers made the Ralliart rear hats the depth they are meant to be and labelled and sold them as such. The rotors you had to try and put on your car are the AWD rear rotors which have the taller hat. A lot of people and manufacturers have gotten the hat depth mixed up over time. They just see the size and go, oh yep that's the one and order them and they don't fit. Hopper stoppers do make a spacer like yours so you can convert to AWD rear rotors (as nobody makes the correct Ralliart ones anymore), OR... upgrade to EVO 7-9 brakes all round like I and many other magna owners have done. Highly recommend you look in to look in to this if you don't care about keeping it 100% pure, it may also be cheaper than buying all those spacers :)

@chisel83 Жыл бұрын

Bit late now 😂

@wiked3801 Жыл бұрын

Technically its 3.7mm and a spacer to sit BEHIND the hub would have been so much neater and cleaner and kept the face of the rotor against the hub and ensured proper centre bore loading of the wheel.

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

All the figures I could find suggested 57mm vs 60.2mm - so far it works so who knows really.

@dasbsbih2491 Жыл бұрын

Hey mate, loving the content, just a tip when taking the calliper off, use a strong metal hook or wire and hang it from the shock, keeps it up out the way 👍 😀

@nicholasbishop3300 Жыл бұрын

Well done Sean Nick Australia

@jasonwishart6800 Жыл бұрын

Can also space the calliper inwards using washers but like your solution as it increases track. Does make the studs a bit shorter though which may be an issue with some wheels.

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Nah, the way they mount up... any spacer will be spacing it outwards.

@benbowles1014 Жыл бұрын

Sean, I really think the Magna deserves a bit of paint!

@michaeljones7497 Жыл бұрын

Your channel is really starting to grow Sean thanks for the great videos

@timbodedidleo Жыл бұрын

If you don't paint it , consider some choice decals & perhaps powder coating the wheels. Aiming for a racey look perhaps.

@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 Жыл бұрын

Definitely paint it. Huge commitment to the car though.

@itznsdominator3521 Жыл бұрын

Paint it paint it paint it paint it paint it paint it

@stephanburgess654 Жыл бұрын

Doing well and I will pass the info onto the ralliart guys I know

@pauljohns1016 Жыл бұрын

Good video

@hughh106 Жыл бұрын

The quality gets better every video Shaun!! Quick Q, what rags do you use?

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

I bought a 10-pack of Scott Shop Towels last time I was at Costco. They're just garage equivalents of paper towel you'd use in the kitchen. Pretty useful for little jobs like this.

@hughh106 Жыл бұрын

@@MotoringBoxTV Thanks! Will give them a look

@froggy0162 Жыл бұрын

Bear in mind your wheel studs are effectively 3mm shorter now. Worth checking the nut has full engagement of the thread.

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Yup, it seems fine.

@garrymcgaw4745 Жыл бұрын

🤣Ya gotta paint it bro...lol.

@LifeSized101 Жыл бұрын

My back inner tyres are wearing down in a crinkle cut looking way. More puzzles and me Sable is going matt.

@RS-ve8nq Жыл бұрын

Could also use those spacers on the other side to change wheel offset. Some times BBK clearance only requires 3mm to get perfect.

@michaelliberatore7228 Жыл бұрын

May want to check the direction on the front rotors. Should be the other direction like you did with the rear 🤙

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Shit, you're right!

@the_real_superstickman Жыл бұрын

I can say that my dented, scratched, stone-chipped car (I put a few on there myself while the thing was off the road being used primarily for storage) is a nice thing to have as a daily driver, especially when my 4 year old is a bit overzealous opening my wife's car door into mine. Not having to worry about the exterior condition is a nice thing. However, having an 'enthusiast' car that looks scrappy tends to be looked on less than favourably. Dilemmas

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

I do like that aspect of it - you can enjoy the car and take it everywhere without stressing out. But yeah, could look a lot better.

@zastavanaz4G18 Жыл бұрын

Hi there, you mentioned in the past videos that you managed to get rid of the headlight fogging by applying like some kind of plastic polish. Would it last as long as sanding the lenses down and doing a clear coat. My car suffers from fogged headlights after having the car for nearly 15 years. Keep up the good work!

@xboxice2005 Жыл бұрын

This just need a lick of paint :)

@austiwollongongwolf Жыл бұрын

You can’t wait to get back to Falcons! Wash your mouth out!😂😂 Paint it of course. Great solution on the brakes. We know you love the car, admit it, Falcons yesterdays news!😂 Thanks another great video.

@thefox6324 Жыл бұрын

I got my new exhaust on the vs sounds absolutely insane from the original put a chrome tip on and she's looking like a proper car just needs some surface rust repair on the fender and some paint touch up some nice ss rims hopefully vx or ve ones and she's done maybe lower it with some ssl kings and a bit of a cleanup in the engine bay look after that good ol series 2 ecotec

@MrButtonpresser Жыл бұрын

Good job. If you can't buy the spares, get 'em made! Try buying a new brake booster for an FG Falcon. Hens teeth.

@peterassel562 Жыл бұрын

I'd be pretty sure the front rotor you show being fitted is for RH side. Normally the slots radiate outward as they pass through the caliper. Your one is opposite to that convention.

@ABL973 Жыл бұрын

Paint it! Be good to see the prep and result.

@toptorque9344 Жыл бұрын

the music you have sounds like early need for speed sound track

@JDMxChi_PizzaGuy Жыл бұрын

spread some anti-seize on that spacer next time, so it doesnt mate to your hub and be a PITA to remove in the future when doing your brakes :)

@user-vk4vd7vr5t Жыл бұрын

Front brake hardware is identical to AWD Magna plus a fair few other Mitsubishi models such as Evo 5 I believe. Front brake consumables shouldn't ever be a problem unlike the rears.

@rossmarzano Жыл бұрын

Side note: I make brackets that allow you to fit S550 mustang 6pot brembos to b series falcon. I'm sure you could fit a brembo kit from a evo or something onto this? Its handy if the stud pattern is the same though.

@tdsmvdx2418 Жыл бұрын

Hey Sean i think they could also double as wheel spacers on falcons as i am pretty sure the PCD is the same

@MotoringBoxTV Жыл бұрын

Yes definitely. They're only 3mm though.

@EvolveAuto Жыл бұрын

Did you put the front rotors on backwards? The slots are going different to the rears? I always understood the install direction was correct on the rears. Meaning, slot would start against the hat and work towards the outside in the direction of travel.