What is the best handling production road car? Tiff Needell and Mark Higgins finds out. Top Gear, 2000 Copyright: BBC Worldwide
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@kicksoffs10 жыл бұрын
Wow I miss those days. Life was so much simpler and easier I could cry.
@scottallen69705 жыл бұрын
I know, I agree
@aaffero3 жыл бұрын
Tu comentario fue hace 7 años, estamos en 2021 haha imagínate haha
@memewolf77193 жыл бұрын
i miss your days life was sooo much easier i could cry
@noto107011 жыл бұрын
Have a z3 3.0 myself. It is a blast to drive.
@tombrown8683 жыл бұрын
Me too, awesome car.
@inconspicuoususer69083 жыл бұрын
@@tombrown868 you do to
@Blacktop_z35 ай бұрын
Have a 2.8 myself now, best purchase I've ever made
@elitesennabubble4 ай бұрын
I have the 3.2 Z3M same spec as the one used in this film which is just the best
@Chris1709i10 жыл бұрын
I've got a Z3M and I couldn't agree more Tiff !!
@greg4england4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE MY Z3M , 20 YEARS OLD THIS MONTH :)
@Fatal_Inertia4 ай бұрын
I had a Z3 facelift for a few years and that really was the best handling car I've ever owned, even compared to the NB miata I had before it.
@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights10 жыл бұрын
What is this? Top gear but informative and a proper conclusion to the tests? I'm so confused
@88omair9 жыл бұрын
Boooring, all that matters is POOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER :D
@juanpablovelasquez38749 жыл бұрын
Omair Sheikh noo, u wrong.
@DaytonCarCare5 жыл бұрын
I know but not as fun as seeing Clarkson drifting a Mercedes Brabus around the track kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ec6npaWizt2bho0.html
@233kosta4 жыл бұрын
It's pre-idiot TG :P
@LelouchVelvet4 жыл бұрын
It's because it's actual drivers driving, not those apes from TopGear.
@Mike649foxx11 жыл бұрын
So true sir. I have the 3.0i version and every other car I drive just does not match up. I love the z3. Awsome car.
@frederickyoung30038 жыл бұрын
this is one of the best/most entertaining car review videos I have ever seen on youtube! thank you for this post
@brock61563 жыл бұрын
The bimmer almost clipped him in the intro 😂
@smallben77443 жыл бұрын
The Z3 is beautiful
@wwilliam712 жыл бұрын
love the 306, its one of the best rally car ever with its beutiful handling and funny drive
@Mike649foxx11 жыл бұрын
Me too my friend. The damn thing never gets old!!
@Rguy5411 жыл бұрын
Biggest regret: Once you have the Z3, it becomes very hard to give it up for anything else.
@VaunShiz5 жыл бұрын
No not really
@shinigami117s84 жыл бұрын
I love mine
@MrAnticaArte Жыл бұрын
Probably you never drove any other sport car then.
@abelramos86529 ай бұрын
Biggest regret is not buy one when you get the chance
@gixxerhoff75024 ай бұрын
I do love mine but the subframe….. really lowers its own bar
@FrapsYou10 жыл бұрын
This is the real Top Gear.
@mk3a3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Top Gear 1977-2015
@milesh.96153 жыл бұрын
Yea but the best part of real top gear was clarkson, may, and Hammond
@drsage16265 жыл бұрын
Owed Supras and Mitsubishi 3000 GT's, and now have a beautiful yellow 99 M Roadster......MOST FUN you can have with your clothes on. Had it for 6 years, and live in Minnesota so only driven in the summer. Put 10,000 miles trouble free miles on it. Perfectly matched transmission and motor will put a smile on your face every time you drive it. Now with 70K miles on it still looks and drives like new and I bet I could sell it rignt now and at least break even.
@IvkoPivko12tka11 жыл бұрын
I have 306 GTi in perfect condition and low mileage = car with passion, smiling all the time !
@lordki16352 жыл бұрын
That reverse entry in the evo😍😍😍😍😍
@xtlmad11 жыл бұрын
I drive the S54b32 M coupé with 325hp, its like the roadster only stiffer...it's a great to drive
@BrainFuck102 жыл бұрын
@Ez Pz good take the worse version, too many people want the coupe anyways 😂
@TheSpyChecker10 жыл бұрын
Drove a z3, and it was great, but the Toyota MR2 handles better! So does the miata.... But the BMW has a much better power-to-weight ratio. I love roadsters haha. need to look into a TT
@nanocyde_artist7 жыл бұрын
MR2 has better turn-in due to low polar moment of inertia but it is twitchy and edgy like the Ferrari in the video. Not quite as 'fun' but more technically rewarding.
@nutsackmania5 жыл бұрын
Oi!
@emperorpalpatine66376 жыл бұрын
When u ever owned a Z u never would sell it again. The comfort and Quality is very good for an roadster.
@nutsackmania5 жыл бұрын
Oi just what me wantin for a romp on the road is floaty comfortable suspension waftin' aaaalllll about goin' wayward
@salami992 жыл бұрын
@@ezicarus8216 nah going 8 to 15 grand now , just drove one today.
@salami992 жыл бұрын
@ASMR James Fuck yeah! love that. Im tyring to get a 3.0 here for under 180k miles and there between 9k and 15 k depending on milage and the wheels. usually 5 owners and accidents too. That 2.8 price is a steal.
@alterglobo11 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I was looking to see this video again for years. Shit, I don't consider myself a gray dino, but oh... manual gearboxes, mechanical LSDs, hydraulic steerings. THOSE WERE DRIVERS' CARS!!!
@marcginsberg603411 жыл бұрын
my neighbor had one of those hatchback z3 m and that car was so much fun
@workingclassperson21244 жыл бұрын
Ah good ol top gear fun!
@parkerblockley10 жыл бұрын
good choice
@flatlandtom11 жыл бұрын
You got that right, I've had mine for 10 years now.
@DesoloZantas9 ай бұрын
1:43 *Final Fantasy Battle commences*
@wwilliam711 жыл бұрын
in wikipedia its written about 306: wikipedia: the 306 was widely regarded as the best hohatch of its time (90s) and all magazines and car programs says the same, love this car
@mohmdakelАй бұрын
That Pigouet aged so gracefully
@aregal11 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should rethink the verdict and look at the M Roadster's subframe after a couple of those drifts. Haha.
@fhowland2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing that Peugeot with its fourth wheel off the ground
@ridm347 жыл бұрын
3:57 lol
@LifeInElSalvador7 жыл бұрын
nice !
@MrGangsterlicious8 жыл бұрын
Lovely..... It's lovely :)
@AndyC3.03 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that these Bmw z3 to this day still outperforms any current day Miata ! At over 300 horsepower these little Z3 M are deliciously evil !
@christopherjohnston63432 жыл бұрын
The handling on the Z3 non M models never impressed me that much. Have no issues keeping up on twisty roads with much slower cars
@MyHandsAreCats12 жыл бұрын
I drive the M52B28 version of that Roadster.....tis quite fun
@niipheus11 жыл бұрын
There is few cars with rear engine fwd layout.
@MyHandsAreCats11 жыл бұрын
The chassis can handle a lot more power than they make stock. Some suspension, tires, and brakes and it's good for a lot more.
@AttilaThebung11 жыл бұрын
How does bolting a turbo on a Miata make it handle better? If anything, it'd be more of a handful.
@bohanan58513 жыл бұрын
That EVO literally threw herself into that corner and flew out.
@rvpsilva92133 жыл бұрын
6:00 What a reaction 😏
@tc51114 жыл бұрын
Prefer my Z3 2.2. to my Boxster 3.2.
@deadmansfire11 жыл бұрын
Actually ,this is the late "Old Top Gear" :D Because early top gear means 70-80s. And the New Top Gear is totally different to the old one.
@folst.333111 ай бұрын
It's funny to see how everyone here did this 10 years ago i personally love my z3 and wouldn't trade it for the world
@7Mario7776 жыл бұрын
I also have M roadster ❤
@mrsnaps43855 жыл бұрын
So do i
@seanmurphy44653 жыл бұрын
Me to. 1998 M Roadster. Silver. 👍🏽
@pcwmsn7 жыл бұрын
"The answer is always miata"
@jochem19866 жыл бұрын
pcwmsn I have a stock 1994 MX5. Stock suspension, stock sway bars. It wobbles around over any undulations, it unsettles when it’s not supposed to and it grips when you want it to let go a bit. Not a great setup.
@emperorpalpatine66376 жыл бұрын
The answer is the z3 with m suspenssions
@jochem19866 жыл бұрын
I don't take you seriously, you know.
@7Mario7776 жыл бұрын
pcwmsn the answer is M roadster😉
@papatorr36696 жыл бұрын
My stock '95 Miata has a very fun sporty economy car feel. I could put narrower tires on my '97 2.8 z3 and get all the 'fun' feel of the Miata, and much more, like sports car acceleration! But I would have to modify/upgrade every suspension and powertrain component in my Miata to get the z3 performance. Miata is NOT always the answer. The newer Miatas are still sporty cars, the 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2 z3s and z4s were Sports Cars!
@OhHeyThereGuy11 жыл бұрын
That's 99%, not 100%. One car that immediately comes to mind is the original Renault 5 Le Car, which was mid-engine fwd and sold quite well. One could also go by the argument that while all fwd cars are front-engine (except they're not, as it's been pointed out), not all front-engine cars are fwd. Assuming leaves you with the potential of being wrong. Fully designating a car's powertrain puts it all out there in a factual manner.
@ChiTuSai2 жыл бұрын
much KANSEI DORIFTO action here!
@Human12322975011 жыл бұрын
The rally driver's from Volkswagen. Lamborghini, the biggest rival of Ferrari, is owned by VW, as many of you know, although this was likely to be filmed before VW bought Lamborghini.
@LostCalibre4 жыл бұрын
Where's the part where Tiff Nedell pulls a full 360 while driving the Z3M Roadster ???
@cw205mi164 жыл бұрын
Right at the end
@BlownMiataGuy11 жыл бұрын
Mazda mx-5 miata is great handling car also!! Especially with a turbo. ;-)
@soapflavour75473 жыл бұрын
Till it blows
@BlownMiataGuy11 жыл бұрын
Mazda miata's are already one of the best handling cars in the world. Now with the turbo u will have more power & will have the ability for wheels to spin & really drift them corners. ;-)
@Khazar0111 жыл бұрын
Well dude, simply said, because of that 1% everybody says "front engined, fwd" instead of just "fwd" :)
@workoutfanatic78738 жыл бұрын
where's the S2000? certainly one of the best roadsters, if the not best, of the last decade.
@dominykasd8 жыл бұрын
workoutfanatic787 I guess that episode was shoot when s2000 was just announced.
@stef500i8 жыл бұрын
+workoutfanatic787 video is for the best handling cars, s2000 is a great car but not even close to good handling cars...
@user-kg9dv8mh7y8 жыл бұрын
+workoutfanatic787 z3m
@Toyota4Life8 жыл бұрын
+workoutfanatic787 lol butt hurt fan boy. the best ? get over yourself
@nutfukkinjob11 жыл бұрын
name a few that are an everyday sight on the road..
@Sheehy22310 жыл бұрын
I have come up with a conclusion. KONY 2012
@sli3533 жыл бұрын
A handling-focused car video with no NSX?
@ngilbert987211 жыл бұрын
This is early Top Gear...Clarkson and crew didn't come along until later. Quite frankly, I miss Tiff...for many reasons.
@cw205mi164 жыл бұрын
Clarkson was on Top Gear from 1988, before Tiff
@michaelsmitten92408 жыл бұрын
Top Gear? 5th Gear!
@tom100hp8 жыл бұрын
original top gear!
@michaelsmitten92408 жыл бұрын
Oops, yes, sorry, my mistake - I only started seriously watching Top Gear when Jeremy Clarkson was the front man and saw Tiff Needell as the opposition, not realising he was a previous presenter of TG, which started in 1977 with Angela Rippon
@puppers20811 жыл бұрын
Dude I thought the ferrari was going to take him outxD
@nutfukkinjob11 жыл бұрын
yes i know all that lol.. read my original comment. my point was 99% of FWD production cars have the engine over the front wheels.. so it makes no sense to say front engine'd fwd.. the logical thing would be to simply just say fwd. i didn't indicate that all front engine'd cars are fwd.. i was just saying basically all fwd's are front engine'd
@sunking2511 жыл бұрын
I miss Tiff and Quentin
@NavsGarage3 жыл бұрын
damn I own that car
@nutfukkinjob11 жыл бұрын
why do people say "front engine'd, front wheel drive"? aren't all fwd's front engine'd?
@khatmcgurk94443 жыл бұрын
Turn left to go right! Lightning McQueen!
@DB-fn3fz3 жыл бұрын
4:06 insane
@radoni03 жыл бұрын
check "drift backwards entry compilation"
@DB-fn3fz3 жыл бұрын
@@radoni0 I've seen it many times in person, but on cars that are tuned for it. Never before with such an unsuspecting road car.
@DB-fn3fz2 жыл бұрын
@@ezicarus8216 i don't care who you are or where you come from, a plus 90 degree drift at that speed in that car is unsuspecting for most people because it certainly does not happen on public roads. If so it's extremely rare.
@nicholehenderson5015 Жыл бұрын
The conclusion was the z3
@tighematthew3 жыл бұрын
Cheers KZfaq 9 years to late
@mxp23111 жыл бұрын
KONY 2013
@niipheus11 жыл бұрын
No one didn't say that they are everyday cars :D
@1954telecaster10 жыл бұрын
M3
@dieenebelg98036 жыл бұрын
"miata is always the answer"
@nutfukkinjob11 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA... I KNEW there would be some idiot with that comment as soon as I saw Tiff. lol
@CaptainTeebsHotels10 жыл бұрын
The test is "best handling road car" not "best car for people who are shit at driving". If someone can't control a car they shouldn't be driving
@supaschwamal11 жыл бұрын
how can a turbo improve handling?
@pokermang54264 жыл бұрын
Powering out of turns.
@ruddin112211 жыл бұрын
ferrari sounds like Vtec
@LeonAllanDavis7 жыл бұрын
Several surprises here... I thought the Brits would go for the Poo-joe... Nice and safe and relatively slow... I also thought they bring out the Z3 1.9 4-cylinder...the politically-correct version of the Roadster. Instead, they show up with an M. What's with no car with a diesel lawnmower engine? And they actually tested a Ferrari in this group? Why?
@bryanlatimer7653 Жыл бұрын
I owned that exact Z3 M Roadster in SIlver and have owned and driven several sports cars and its is easily the best handling car I've ever driven! Most of that grip is derived mechanically from superior design as opposed to computer assistance. Just a brilliant and totally analog car! MANUAL ONLY!!!
@o0lunchboxxx0o91 Жыл бұрын
Lol I just baught a arctic silver metallic m roadster lol it’s amazing and it has a black stripe right down the middle my first manual ever I love it
@beckythill9169 Жыл бұрын
Z3 and M roadster are not the same, also S2000 should be on this list but maybe not available at that time.
@nutfukkinjob11 жыл бұрын
lol so that's why there is absolutely no reason to say front 'engine'd fwd' :p
@freshjive81812 жыл бұрын
use to have a GTI-6 and loved it loads and now funnily enough i own a Z3 M which is even better, it is an animal!! though i wouldnt wack it down a B-road as fast as the GTI-6 simply because of its unruly back end, loads of power, light rear end on tight road = crash! great fun on the more open twisty roads though ;) never driven an evo 6 but ive always wanted too they look like great fun and a bit of turbo wallop always gives the car a little drama, ferrari's great but way out of my price range
@elitesennabubble2 жыл бұрын
the bmw is a weapon
@lijkenkist110 жыл бұрын
Hi everybody. Does anyone know what BMW it is at 00:16? Thanks!
@I7HVS10 жыл бұрын
bmw z3 coupe
@MichaelMacCracken9 жыл бұрын
I7HVS Its a Convertible roadster, not a coupe
@Oscarl1239 жыл бұрын
Michael MacCracken That's definitely a coupe.
@MichaelMacCracken9 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, didnt think they would show a coupe when they focused on a roadster
@StPaul769 жыл бұрын
Oscar L No, it is a Z3M Roadster with a removable hard top on. I have a Z3 Coupé myself and I can tell the difference.
@samin20126 жыл бұрын
if you compare the power to weight ratios and the weight, mx5 should handle better than the z3 which is heavier. correct me if I'm wrong
@mergimfera116 жыл бұрын
samin2012 you're wrong.
@jochem19866 жыл бұрын
samin2012 with these cars, it’s more about suspension setup and personal preference. The MX5 is lighter, but this means less controllable slides. However, the M Roadster has a wider track and wider tires, which also makes it more prone to snap oversteer. The suspension and the sway bars make a huge difference with these cars, and they can both be tuned to handling perfection. (Oh, and don’t forget about chassis bracing. But not too much, a flexible chassis is a forgiving chassis)
@emperorpalpatine66376 жыл бұрын
The z destroys the mx5 in quality and handling got both cars
@jochem19866 жыл бұрын
Don't believe you. Prove it.
@7Mario7776 жыл бұрын
samin2012 MX-5 is a lot lower league than M roadster!This can not be compared...
@autofiras6 жыл бұрын
The answer is always Nissan Xterra
@Ranggadhinugroho4 жыл бұрын
Mazda MX5 is the best
@AttilaThebung11 жыл бұрын
The BMW was a bit skittish...
@VaunShiz5 жыл бұрын
If it's not understeering it's overstearing like the Ferrari
@endritbajrami87952 жыл бұрын
FWD is good for handling
@yabba23411 жыл бұрын
isnt that guy on fifth gear now? ^^ why did he change?
@A1DJPaul3 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT Motoring TV. Just How it should be, NOT the COMEDY Show it Became. Real ACTUAL Drivers. Tiff Needell Was a Racing Driver. NO WHITE SUIT & HELMET to Exceed 30 Mph. ! Top GEAR Lost the Plot Decades ago, & Became Impossible to Watch. Top Gear Was a Motoring TV Show, Then it Became Suitable for 4 yr old Boys & 7 yrs old Girls to Watch With GRANDMOTHER. Certainly Not for Car Buyers & Motoring Enthusiasts. Top Gear Should have Been an Advert for BARBIE Doll Accessories .
@ezequielicz71275 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to modern era?😂
@deadmansfire11 жыл бұрын
Yeah,And he is a real race driver.Clarkson is more of an entertainer and journalist - never a race driver.
@MrAnticaArte Жыл бұрын
Two options here: 1. BMW paid them lots of money; 2. They were on drugs.
@ngilbert987211 жыл бұрын
Ah, really? Fair enough...learn something new every day... :-) "Old Top Gear" it is...I still like Tiff better than Clarkson.
@willow0612 жыл бұрын
Glad I bought a Z3 and not a Ferrari
@frankfitzpatrick53007 жыл бұрын
Bad audio
@Monty-sd6tc3 жыл бұрын
It’s from the 90’s
@howardkahn43303 жыл бұрын
what this video shows is why not to buy a used sports car!
@nutfukkinjob11 жыл бұрын
wtf are you high!? I think you should read my comment again! I SAID: "99%". NOT 100% !.. and yeah!.. "immediately"!, because everyone drives them!.. lol secondly.. I am aware not all cars with the "engine mounted in-the-front" are "front-wheel-drive"!.. I ALREADY STATED THAT!! how can people be so blatantly oblivious.
@jaymoore21543 жыл бұрын
Thank God I'm not european, otherwise I'd have to believe VW makes real performance cars
@Gwenalltapowain11 жыл бұрын
BMW z3 roadster owner!!!!! It goes like stink!!! Always had beammers!!!!! Best cars value for money in the world!
@VaunShiz5 жыл бұрын
Because they tank in value because children make their electronics
@TMKuro Жыл бұрын
Such a nonsense and misleading review. Think of the target viewer of this show - definitely not a racing driver with a wide track as a playground. Roads are way too narrow for such powerslides. And as much as I like the Z3M, Joe Average does not have the skills to catch the bimmer once it breakes loose like 8n this video.
@cagiva125cc5 жыл бұрын
Where is the integra ! 1998 dc2 would wipe the floor with all of them lol I've had one and stuffed 2 of the cars in this video in street races, so don't think there choice in cars is right really lol
@mergimfera116 жыл бұрын
The Z3 is for real drivers is harder to control, the Miata is softer.
@jochem19866 жыл бұрын
mrillyrian this isn’t a Z3, it’s a BMW M Roaster.
@freeelooot89756 жыл бұрын
Jochem it's a Z3 Idiot, a Z3 M
@prinkeakeem123 жыл бұрын
@@freeelooot8975 It's NOT a Z3. Geeeeee
@johannkuhn56852 жыл бұрын
@@prinkeakeem12 To be fair, that is a very common mistake. But what's even worse is when they say MZ3. For those who don't know, the M Roadster is officially not a Z3 roadster. It's based on the Z3, but you will not find Z3 ANYWHERE on the car or paperwork.