OLED Monitors Ruined Me

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2024 is the year that 4K OLED monitors truly take off. But how do you choose the right 4K 240Hz OLED monitor? And what's so special about OLED anyway? Is OLED really that much better than IPS? Well, OLED has ruined all other monitor technologies for me. Here's all my thoughts.
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Chapters:
0:00 I'm replacing my LG C1 OLED
1:18 Think about a GPU upgrade if you are buying a 4K monitor!
2:26 OLED monitors are now available at many resolutions and sizes
2:58 (rant) monitor model names are a disaster
3:20 Why is OLED so good? True black- but WOLED vs QD-OLED
4:47 Why is OLED so good? response times
5:01 What about burn-in? I've had OLED for several years, my experience
7:24 OLED brightness issues
8:47 OLED vs IPS side-by-side ruined me. I can never go back
9:59 My quest to upgrade my LG C1
11:23 This is the breakout year for 4K OLED monitors
11:42 Which 4K 240Hz OLED monitor is best?
12:54 How to differentiate the QD-OLED 4K 240Hz options
13:55 The LG WOLED can do 480Hz (at 1080p)
15:25 Is DisplayPort 2.1 actually a big deal?
18:06 What about price? Well... if it isn't in stock at MSRP does that matter?
18:45 The Alienware is in stock but...
19:13 The LG WOLED is in stock and has some feature advantages
20:40 BUT THE MATTE FINISH!!!!!!1!!!!!!11!
21:28 So which 4K 240Hz OLED did I end up buying?

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@danielowentech Ай бұрын

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@diocub4022 Ай бұрын

Have u tried the mini led like the neo g8, no risk of burn in and close to oled like black levels.

@LOOTLORD605 Ай бұрын

🎉

@haewymetal Ай бұрын

Hey Owen. You dont REALLY have to think about your graphics card when it comes to a 4K display. Integerscaling works perfectly and lets you play games at native 1080p with the added benefit of higher PPI so you dont see any pixels at all. I get your point for users who want to only play at 4K. But theres no real reason to play at 4K when theres integerscaling (prety much everything) or DLSS/FSR Performance for that 1080p performance or balanced -> quality depending on the game. Also integerscaling should work on all models.

@karma9007 Ай бұрын

@@LOOTLORD605 Looks like a hacker used my account to comment here.

@aberkae Ай бұрын

FYI the lG 48 inch oled monitor fell to $699 new at LG. Ultragear.

@b3as_t Ай бұрын

Just ordered a 1440p 180hz display, never used anything above 60hz at 1080p, I hope its worth it. Edit: Just got it and any applications or my mouse in motion is amazing. As most people said I don't know if I can go back haha 😂

@iceeboerg Ай бұрын

trust me, your gaming life is gonna change, its insane

@fffrrraannkk Ай бұрын

1440p is a nice jump from 1080p which you will notice. Plus it's not nearly as taxing on your system like 4k.

@zergilli9719 Ай бұрын

I went from an Asus 1080p 60hz monitor to an MSI 1440p 180hz one.. it's at least twice as good with the color and brightness. At minimum.

@pirx9798 Ай бұрын

You will notice even how smooth mouse movement in Windows is in comparison.

@Izzydawizzy Ай бұрын

Does it have freesync or gsync? Make sure to turn that on in the monitor settings, and Nvidia control panel or what ever amd uses

@Jeff.55649 Ай бұрын

My C2 42" will stay with me until I can get 165 hz or 240 hz. Never buying a trash monitor again.

@arghpee Ай бұрын

yeah buying a TV specially LG is the way to go for a OLED display. TVs are basically just giant monitors.

@asmod4n Ай бұрын

Same, got it new for less than 1k just by chance, guess i wont be that lucky again any time soon.

@Dionyzos Ай бұрын

I got mine for 650€ and it's hard to justify buying one of the new 32" ones for double the price even though the size would be better as a monitor for me personally.

@cazschiller Ай бұрын

3rd here. Bought a c2 cheap. Great decision, been 18mo since He's right tho, 3070ti chugs slow with some games.

@GrandoSilver Ай бұрын

Same here! Absolute game changer for me.

@taskmaster5437 Ай бұрын

I feel like people should look at their monitor just as much as they look at their GPU funding. I mean, after all, we don't look at our GPUs all day when playing games. Personally, I value the monitor a bit more which is why I fit a 4k QD-OLED monitor into my budget and then a 4070 super FE.

@arvinsim Ай бұрын

If you are gaming with a 4070, you should have gotten 1440p QD-OLED instead

@taskmaster5437 Ай бұрын

@@arvinsim why should i sacrifice on pixel density, 1440p at 27” ain’t it.

@jorge69696 Ай бұрын

Office chairs is something else people don't give much thought to despite spending thousands of hours in them.

@Ruben98RaptoR Ай бұрын

100% people spending 1500 on a 4090 to play on some trash IPS or VA monitor is outright stupid

@Kira11259 Ай бұрын

@@Ruben98RaptoRI am pretty sure people who buy 4090 usually have great monitors as well. There are tons of great IPS and VA monitors

@Core2 Ай бұрын

Once you go OLED, you never go back, ever!

@gildardo Ай бұрын

We need a more catchy phrase. Totally agree though.

@Lord_Seiborg Ай бұрын

Same thing with Asian Women!

@beansnrice321 Ай бұрын

I accidentally did with a phone switch and it's the worst. =(

@rogoznicafc9672 Ай бұрын

@@Lord_Seiborg why?

@greenmonkey.8403 Ай бұрын

"Once you go O-L-E-D, you'll never want to leave!"

@Matkinson123 Ай бұрын

Bought a 42" LG C3 not long ago, and I'm never going back. Love the glossy screen personally. Best screen I've ever bought, was an impulse purchase as well as I was getting sick of compromising with crappy monitors throughout the years.

@ldope3904 Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Been surrounded by Samsung tvs and monitors for the last 10-15 years. They were great before 4k stuff. A 4k curved screen was a gimmick but still looked decent. Got a 4k monitor from them in 2020, looked pretty awful and lacked basic features. Roomate got a brand new 4k 120 hz samsung tv and I was happy I didn't buy it because it didn't look great. Was tired of Samsung and always heard awesome things about LG tvs so I said fuck it. Very happy I did. Can't believe what I been missing out on. Never going back to Samsung. I'm interested in Sony tvs tho, they look pretty dope as well

@adriankoch964 Ай бұрын

For anyone who wants high bandwidth HDMI or DP, look into Fiberoptic cables. Those are unaffected by EM or crosstalk from other cables (especially power cables). Those turn the electric signal into a laser signal and send it through a fiber cable. The other plug that's in your TV will sense the laser light and turn that back into an electric signal. This way you can get the full HDMI or DP bandwidth over a long cable, something that is electrically challenging on normal cables over a long distance. (That's why normal high bandwidth cables are normally so short or super expensive and high length. Often you can also have issues on long cables, where you are forced to run 4:2:0 colors instead of the full bandwidth using 4:4:4 color) They are also very thin and can be safely bend more than regular copper core cables. You can get them in 100m length no problem and length does no increase cost by that much, so it's very useful if you want to hook up a projector far away from your PC. A lot of those cables are one-directional, so you need to make sure you plug the right end into your graphics card or you won't get a signal out of them.

@Henrik_Holst Ай бұрын

I think the next gen DP should just go fully optical

@CultOfMU Ай бұрын

My latest amazon order included three optic hdmi cables for two TV's that are wall mounted. Routing the cables out of sight requires long cables and I found out xbox with 4K didn't work anymore :P

@ddnava96 28 күн бұрын

Warning: The so called "pixel refresher" doesn't refresh pixels with burn in. Instead, it just burns everything else and now the whole panel has burn-in, but it's just a less noticeable, even burn-in. Over time it will affect the image quality in a more noticeable way

@dabelidubelidabelidadada1222 26 күн бұрын

So what are you suggesting then

@Valkyrslayer 26 күн бұрын

@@dabelidubelidabelidadada1222 the manual pixel refresh should only be run when you see issues not as preemptive measure. LG OLED TVs have an automatic refresh hat runs automaticly so the manual one should only be used when you see issues because the pixels wear out faster. Burn In on OLEDs is not literally burn in. It is uneven pixel wear out. The pixel refresh tries to mitigate this by adjusting healthier pixels to the worn out ones.

@dabelidubelidabelidadada1222 26 күн бұрын

@@Valkyrslayer damn, I've been doing it a lot. Thanks man

@atavusable 26 күн бұрын

SO controlled damage.

@dabelidubelidabelidadada1222 25 күн бұрын

@@Valkyrslayer Do you know if it's the same case for ASUS oleds btw?

@occasus7964 28 күн бұрын

OLED is nice and all, but i do both gaming and lots of productivity on both monitors. As such, OLED isn't a good option for me. No one wants to spend 1k$ per monitor and have to replace it in 6 months - 1 year. No one wants to baby a monitor and always hide the task bar, move things around, put dark backgrounds, or have it become unusable after 8 hours of work while it does its mandatory pixel refresh. Mini-Led is a better monitor platform, whereas OLED is better for TVs.

@drunkhusband6257 7 күн бұрын

Disagree. I have a 6 year old and 4 year old oled displays both are fine.

@bobotron82 5 күн бұрын

I would disagree. I went from OLED to miniLED and personally i think the upsides of miniLED far outweigh the one downside of not quite perfect black

@ameliabuns4058 3 күн бұрын

It’s not for everyone but 1 year is insanely fast. I doubt it’ll get ruined that fast, I got a 5 year warranty with mine

@marklamutt Ай бұрын

I also can't imagine ever going back from my 42" LG C2. I orginally had a 48" CX as my first OLED computer display, but that was just too large to be comfortable. The 42", though, is the perfect sweet spot for me.

@viking9442 Ай бұрын

I was going to go for a C2 but my country has a tv license required so I went for an oled monitor instead.

@TheEgzi 15 күн бұрын

42 really is amazing!

@SarthakBhatia 14 күн бұрын

@@viking9442if you mean UK. TV lisence is not mandatory. It's only if you watch LIVE TV on it. 😂

@fastica Ай бұрын

I bought a 27 inch OLED monitor a year ago and all the anti burn in features ruined my experience. I finally went back to my old IPS monitor. Yes, my blacks now suck, but at least the brightness is constant, my whites are always bright and I can leave the monitor turned on without fear of burn in.

@FR4NKM4N Ай бұрын

Very refreshing to see a comment from a observant user. You are absolutely right. The 27 inch OLEDs that have been released in recent years have awful drawbacks. Not all OLEDs suck as bad as the 27 inch ones tho. I think they have such bad dimming and safety features because they were oriented towards gamers.

@mcod99 Ай бұрын

I still use my oled 27 inch for gaming but when I tried to edit and use photoshop, it was terrible. Oled for me is only for content consumption.

@DMPLAYER1000 Ай бұрын

I can’t speak for all OLED experiences, but I recently got a 32’ 4k monitor from alienware that uses 3rd gen QD-OLED and I haven’t had any brightness issues while gaming with all of the anti burn-in features enabled during long stretches of playing. I refresh the monitor every 4-ish hours when I take a break though, but that’s something that I personally don’t mind doing.

@MorbidHunter Ай бұрын

I couldn’t care less about the anti burn features. 2000 hours later I love my monitor and have no signs of burn in

@Trickzter1337 Ай бұрын

Yeah the whole micro managing shit that you have to do around it in order for the burn in to not happen sooner just sounds exhausting.

@popcornadvisor3193 Ай бұрын

Hi Daniel : Re the LG control weirdness there is a way you can reprogram one of the LG remotes so it doesn't interact with the other TV, I was able to do it with a LG CX and then just a run of the mill 2016 LG TV, only issue is the power button is an IR Blaster so it will turn them both on so you are stuck in trying to "hide" it from the other TV when turning one on.

@michaelthompson9798 Ай бұрын

I personally use an LG CX OLED 55” for my entertainment unit as well as a gaming HTPC setup (for lighter gaming titles e.g. Baulders Gate: 3) and a 27” HDR 4K LCD with FALD technology for main gaming sessions, some BluRay watching, and production work.

@wikwayer Ай бұрын

Yeah but couldn't the manufacturer just build 1080p or even God's forbid 720p monitor

@RockinEnabled 27 күн бұрын

Excuse me, but I can't get my head around why would a person having a 55-inch OLED use an 27-inch LCD even for 'SOME BluRay watching' :D

@tizio2332 23 күн бұрын

@@RockinEnabled Exactly! I use my 55 c3 for single player games and movies, and a super cheap aoc monitor to play fps, just to avoid burj in risk

@stanmarsh8796 26 күн бұрын

I switched from 55"C1 to S95B. The improvement was tremendous. I felt the same wow effect like when I first switched from LCD-screen to LG C1.

@GummyGruffi 23 күн бұрын

Too bad samsung still refuses to pay for dolby vision support and keeps pushing their hdr10+. No DV - no buy.

@stanmarsh8796 23 күн бұрын

@@GummyGruffi True, thats why I only use S95B in my game-room. Regarding gaming nothing comes close to QD-OLED. I also have a Philips 65OLED908 in my living-room. It supports both DolbyVision and HDR10+, and its the first PhilipsTV with MLA panel. I tried gaming on it, but I cant get used to it, colours just suck once you are used to QD-OLED. MLA is much brighter tho, and movies look great on it, but its just not for gaming.

@stanmarsh8796 23 күн бұрын

@@GummyGruffi True, but I only use S95B in my gaming-room, so its no issue. I also recently bough a 65" Philips OLED908 for my living-room, which uses MLA panel and supports both DolbyVision and HDR10+. I tried gaming on it, but its simply cant compete against a QD-OLED. MLA OLED is definetly brighter, and movies look amazing on it, but its just not for gaming.

@stanmarsh8796 23 күн бұрын

@@GummyGruffi My S95B is in my gaming-room, so its no issue. I dont need DV there😁 I also have a 65" Philips OLED908 in my living-room. This TV has MLA-Panel from LG. I tried gaming on it, but its no match against S95B regarding colour. MLA-OLED looks definetly amazing with movies, and I like it that Philips supports both DV and HDR10+. Most of the content on Amazon Prime supports HDR10+. So you definetly need both. But regarding gaming MLA-OLED simply cant compete.

@ehenningsen 6 күн бұрын

I don't care for DV as my Samsung S90C uses a very similar HDR tech.

@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127 Ай бұрын

4070tis +Hisense U7K 65” 144Hz tv. I switch from console two months ago and I’m so happy I can actually play games at 144 fps. If I can’t get to 144 I’ll vsync to 1/2 72fps and ajust my setting to accommodate.

@mathesar Ай бұрын

9:17 Reminds me of back in the early 2000s when I still ran CRT's as my main monitor but started buying LCD's to use as secondary monitors, the black level difference was jarring and was especially bad on LCDs back then such as the Dell 2001FP (my first LCD) which was only 400:1 contrast ratio.

@RandomUnassignedYTHandle Ай бұрын

Your epic GDM-FW900 thread still going strong! Love my CRTs, but I do find the CX/C1 kind of an off ramp. Technically not nearly as good as a CRT with its 1000Hz motion clarity equivalence. However, just getting from 120Hz to an effective 300Hz or a little more in terms of motion already clears up so much blur relative to 120Hz or worse 60Hz that I suspect there's a degree of diminishing returns as one ascends in Hz.

@maksimklimuk Ай бұрын

Real talk. Here's my hot take: OLED Monitors are nowhere near OLED TVs and it's kinda ironic since monitors are smaller in size. I bought a newly released Alienware 27in 360hz 1440p QD-OLED monitor(AW2725DF) that had amazing reviews. When I got it I thought I was pranked because my expectations were too high based on the reviews. I was happy with vibrancy in colors and 360hz but it just was not bright enough in any mode. My 6 year old LCD monitor had higher brightness. Every time I turned Alienware on, It reminded me of my old bright monitor. So, I returned it. I did not give up on OLED since I know it can do better (most phones now have better panels than what most TVs people have). I researched and personally looked at the new OLED TVs. LG G4 4K 120hz OLED TV looked spectacular and I bought it. I cant be happier with it's brightness, contrast, black levels and other features. Compared to the Alienware, it's just an eye candy. I looked up at the brightness levels of other OLED Monitors and it's just sad. I won't be upgrading my actual monitor for a while because of how pathetic they are.

@afgncap Ай бұрын

I have AW3423DW and it is actually better than my old LG B9 TV, but I am a bit sensitive to light so when monitor or TV is too bright it almost hurts.

@userblame632 Ай бұрын

Did you not have HDR on? What HDR was it certified for? I’m using a aw3423dw and with HDR1000 it’s eye searing bright, it literally hurts my eyes to look at the sun. If it was too dim with HDR on in SDR content, there is a slider in windows to adjust that balance. Slider automatically defaults to be the dimmest for SDR.

@anthonyrizzo9043 Ай бұрын

Also not only was hdr on? But were you using an amd card? Amd cards are known to not work right in hdr1000 on those alienwares.

@somename86 Ай бұрын

How is that ironic smaller size in electronics always means tradeoffs guess why your smartphone won't compete with a gaming pc.

@Keemochi420 Ай бұрын

you oled monitor are great specially like me who plays both competitive and story games but for you hell yea TV oleds are amazing than monitors for Story Games and Movies, Work. but for competitive I dont really know but for me its just too big so yea Oled Gaming Monitor it is

@Ryan-tn4gk Ай бұрын

Honestly same. I got a 55" LG C1 about 2 years ago now. I used it for both TV and video games. And it's one of the best purchases ive ever made. My friends make fun of me cause they could imagine spending $1000 on a display. But ive loved every second of it. Worth every penny

@frommatorav1 Ай бұрын

Same, except I got a 65" and paid around $1500. My previous TV was a 55" Samsung LCD for around $350 and I didn't regret getting the OLED one bit.

@yosifvidelov Ай бұрын

I have just got a LG C3 55" and i am loving it both for HDR 4K PC gaming and movies. Absolute blast. OLED FTW!!!

@hugoanderkivi Ай бұрын

@@yosifvidelovLarge TVs for gaming FTW! I have a 55 inch S95C, and it gets glaringly bright in specific content. The colors are awesome, too.

@TheCultOfShepard Ай бұрын

I've been very happy with my 1080p60 IPS monitor for several years now, it has a rare glossy panel for a monitor which seems to go halfway as much as OLED does for making colours pop anyway.

@Kristjan_N 20 күн бұрын

Isn't the "grayness" of qd-oled panels due to their reflective coating? Which should help with glare in some situation as I've understood (at least that is the case with TV-s).

@DMPLAYER1000 Ай бұрын

Ever since I got the Switch Oled I haven’t been able to go back to led backlit screens

@gamesmaster1060 Ай бұрын

People told me that back when I was getting an IPS monitor and wasnt that impressed

@msg360 Ай бұрын

@@gamesmaster1060 still rocking my Nano IPS LG monitor 4k 144 hz, I'm tempted with all this OLDED talk but I know its mostly just FOMO.

@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын

@@gamesmaster1060My Samsung 955DF CRT has way better blacks than any LCD

@notimeforspace2477 Ай бұрын

@@msg360 not true,i had lg nano ip 3440x1440 165hz and got lgc3 120hz,motion clarity is better and deep deep blacks are fkn amazing

@godnamedtay Ай бұрын

😑

@josephrcase Ай бұрын

I have the LG C1 48" as well and actually tried the LG 32" 4k 240hz that you are getting. My thoughts, it just wasn't better than the TV, it really felt like a side-grade to me. Colors were so much more muted and the panel as a whole just didn't get as bright, I tried a bunch of different settings and just couldn't get it bright enough to match the TV and the colors just didn't get as vibrant. The matte coating was a non-thing to me, it definitely made it better when I had the lights on in my office vs. the C1, but wasn't as big of a deal as I thought going into the purchase. I ended up returning the 32" and went back to my C1. That being said I think my setup with the TV being wall mounted really diminishes the negatives of it. Although after a week or so with the 32" and now being without it, I do miss the higher refresh rate for sure. I'm now just waiting for either the C4 to come down in price (1k or so) or possibly waiting till LG offers MLA on the C series at 42/48". Waiting for CES and see what folks say about the C5 in 8 or so months. I am interested in your thoughts on this and will follow to see what you think. I wish you luck Daniel and hope you enjoy it more than I did.

@jorge69696 Ай бұрын

There is no reason why the LG monitor didn't have equally vibrant colors. Both are WOLED.

@cadendowdle8901 Ай бұрын

@@jorge69696 because of the coating

@josephrcase Ай бұрын

@@jorge69696 just stating my observations with a sample size of 1 for each device.

@hugoanderkivi Ай бұрын

@@jorge69696They're different panels, even though they're WOLED. The matte coating affects image quality, so maybe that's why.

@ItsMavicBrah Ай бұрын

I have been using a 48" LG CX since it launched and have never looked back. Has 13,336 hours on it as of this moment according to the display's built in screen on timer. No burn-in. Some slight banding and screen uniformity visable on test paterns but day to day 100% not noticable. I did have a pixel burn out on the very edge maybe 2 or 3k hours ago... but as of writing this it seems to be working again... perhaps a pixel refresher pass cleaned it up. I think the burn-in scare that all reviewers mention is really not a big deal for a general customer who is using the display for gaming, web browsing, and media consumtion. The positives are huge. Once you see the contrast in person its hard to go back. Pixel response time is amazing, almost zero motion blur. I have a 49" LG NANO 85 right next to it... and the OLED makes the LCD look like crap side my side. Currently I am wanting to get something closer to 40" 4k OLED 240hz. I have a 4090 and like mentioned by Daniel, 4k max settings on a lot of games with DLSS 3.5 (frame generation) I get over 120hz so I have to limit frame rates. (super first world problem I know) I would go 32" but I have some other 32" displays and its just not large enough for my personal liking. 40" really is my favorite size, but I would/will settle for 42" (41.5") once they come out with 240hz models.

@celestialsylveon6453 Ай бұрын

I'm like the opposite, I went from a IPS to a VA that a lot of people consider inferior and I'm liking it a lot more! It has really deep blacks and a lot of contrast for the colours, so it really feels like an upgrade. But I did go from a cheap 1080p@60 monitor a cheap 3440x1440@144 so your mileage may vary!

@ian6239 Ай бұрын

Just for a different perspective, I have never felt this way. I have an LG OLED TV, Steam Deck OLED, and Switch OLED. They are undeniably fantastic screens, but I have no issue using a *high quality* LCD still (big emphasis on "high quality" here). They're fine.

@smidlee7747 Ай бұрын

It all about what you choose to focus on. Colors don't even exist outside our heads and is a product of our visual cortex. Visual cortex will adapt the colors you see with the surrounding sometimes even changes the color different from what the eye "sees". If I choice to notice the floaters in my eyes it will annoy me. But if I ignore the floaters I will get where 99.99% of the time I don't notice them. The same with a movie if I choose to focus on how many times the movie is cut up I find it annoying and won't enjoy the movie.

@deanx0r Ай бұрын

OLED is still a major step up from older techs such as TN, VA and IPS. I thought my C2 OLED was the best display (beside some certain quirks and drawbacks (fonts clarity, brightness, dimming) until I discovered mini LED displays with my MPB. OLED is not the end all be all of display techs. Would love to see Danny widen his perspective on other techs, although I understand this channel is gaming focused.

@Dionyzos Ай бұрын

They're fine to me when I use them in a bright room. But I like to play games, watch movies etc. in the evening and I turn down my lights and whenever I did that with my IPS the glow was jarring. I know people who don't care about this as well, people are just different :)

@smidlee7747 Ай бұрын

@@Dionyzos I think we all know in a dark room LCD in a very dark scene you can noticed some light leakage but 99.99% of the time the leakage won't be noticed.

@Zam_man 24 күн бұрын

Note: burn in is always a permanent issue and it isnt an IF it is WHEN - pixel refreshers work by killing the life of the pixels around the "tired" more burned out pixels so that all pixels are uniformly lit. This will result in overall dimmer brightness for your monitor and oleds are dim as hell to begin with

@teamsabre4 8 күн бұрын

People who are poor shouldnt buy PCs. Oled is for gigachads with money to spend.

@drunkhusband6257 7 күн бұрын

@@teamsabre4 More like OLED is for people that actually have jobs above minimum wage....

@theripper121 5 күн бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 What a dumb take lol

@sirjonsmithiii992 Ай бұрын

Still using my LG CX 48 inch (run it at 2560x1600, since Oled blacks make the bars not an issue). Got it for the same reasons (monitors were very behind at the time). I have a huge desk though, so I am going to wait for 4k plus Oled ultrawides. No burn in issues.

@chiyolate Ай бұрын

It is perfectly fine to upgrade to a larger 4K monitor without upgrading your graphics card, because with a large 4K monitor, you can just play in windowed 1440p mode without affecting your current fps. Benefits of playing in windowed 1440p, you can still read chats, or monitor anything you put around the game window.

@bricaaron3978 28 күн бұрын

Yeah...... Not really into immersion, huh?

@Superdazzu2 Ай бұрын

i bought an alienware aw3423dwf refurbished for 600 euros 1 week ago, been using it for 3 days, it's BLOWING my mind, coming from a lg 27gp850 ips, colors are almost the same but man the contrast and the hdr peak 1000 mode are worth it so much i'm very very sensitive and yet i don't notice fringing or vrr flickering

@Kaudrag33 Ай бұрын

Asus rog swift pg32ucdm on my side. Had the alienware aw3225qf and returned because of VRR flickering. My Asus one has it too... And I don't now what I can do. Try Forza horizon 5 yourself. Drive a car with a dark fitting and you'll see it instantly. Same with Avatar frontiers of pandora. Flickering in darker areas and corners. Strange is, that the flickering is always there. People said, that it would only be there with heavy fps fluctuations. I capped mine. Framerate and frametime graph are completely flat. No drops or spikes what so ever. No background applications are open. Only the game launcher itself. I tried unplugging my second monitor. Didn't help. I'm asking myself if it could be windows 10... I'm using a rtx 4090 with windows 10... Could windows 11 fix that problem?

@yugdesiral Ай бұрын

Got it a few months ago for gaming but movies look ridiculously good.

@Kaudrag33 Ай бұрын

@@yugdesiral Yes! That's true. But how is gaming on your side? Would be really interesting. Have you noticed VRR flickering?

@Superdazzu2 Ай бұрын

@@yugdesiral movies in hdr? Which hdr mode? I tried hdr videos and movies but hdr peak 1000 dims the image too much, hdr true black is somewhat better with high apl content, i've yet to try the movie hdr mode

@Superdazzu2 Ай бұрын

@@Kaudrag33 tried, still can't notice flickering. Even at low framerates, and vrr is enabled, i double checked

@zodwraith5745 Ай бұрын

I still don't trust OLED. My habits have always been full of static images for hours on end and I don't trust myself to change 3 decades of habits. Especially when OLED still carries way too much of a price premium even though it's far from a new technology. OLED _doesn't_ cost significantly more than LCD to produce, but it's artificially inflated in price because they have no other halo technology to replace it they can price gouge customers for. It looks nice, but I won't buy it until it's priced competitively with LCD.

@saybrowt Ай бұрын

I have a headset with a control thingy with an OLED screen. I had set it to go to standby mode (very low brightness) as quickly as possible and still burn in happened.

@erickalvarez6486 Ай бұрын

Bro Switch Oled is fine, Oled tech has evolved, you don't need to worry bout static images, you'll have to have that screen for 3 years on with the same image 24/7 in order to have a slight image burn. No cap you can see videos about Switch Oled Max Lighting being turnes on for years and you'll see is not big of a deal.

@usernamerandumb Ай бұрын

@@erickalvarez6486 Leave the "no cap" to the kids, I can't take you serious.

@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын

"halo technology to replace it they can price gouge customers for" They are inferior for gaming vs CRTs, their motion clarity still sucks. In fact, OLED is on a price bubble right now and VGA CRTs are absurdly cheap for the crazy motion clarity and quality they can deliver.

@zodwraith5745 Ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 CRTs have their own set of caveats. Limited size. Limited resolution. Limited brightness. Power consumption. And the obvious ridiculous physical dimensions. I have no desire to go back to my 400lb supertube or 120lb monitor to get the tiny benefits of cathode ray. But you're correct that OLED is artificially inflated in price. It's not new, not expensive to make, and they would still be profitable selling them at $300 along side $300 LCD TVs. But why sell a TV for $300 when the unknowing will pay $800 for them? 8k flopped hard so OLED will remain artificially overpriced until they can find something else they can call the new "must have" feature. I'm betting it will be high refresh and that's exactly why TV makers have been so resistant to allow higher speed connections that have already existed for years now. HDMI 2.1 was finalized _LONG_ ago but only started popping up in TVs recently, and NO TV supports DP. I'm guessing to protect their overpriced monitor lines to gatekeep high refresh to far more profitable monitors.

@lsik231l Ай бұрын

Im also upgrading my monitor from 1440p 165 hz IPS. But I'm currently outside of the US, and the most affordable option was the Dell aw3225qf. It won by default 😅. It was also on sale by $300, couldn't pass it up. Arrives next week. Can't wait!

@VLADABEAST 28 күн бұрын

I replaced a Samsung Neo-QLED with one of their new QD-OLEDs and have slowly started transitioning everything in my apartment. OLED Samsung Tab, New Galaxy Book with an OLED, And am looking at an OLED bedroom tv and OLED monitor to replace my old Odyssey G5. OLED is the absolute TRUTH. Once you go OLED you never go back.

@andrewmorris3479 Ай бұрын

Hi Daniel, I’ve gone through the LG 27GR95QE, Alienware AW2725DF, MSI MPG 271QRX, Alienware AW3225QF, ASUS PG32UCDM, and LG 32GS95UE. The best gaming monitor I’ve ever used is without a doubt the PG32UCDM and the most disappointing of the lot was the LG 32GS95QE. I retuned it in no less than five hours actually. The matte finish is truly criminal on WOLED. You’ll notice it most on white backgrounds but after using semi-glossy QD-OLED’s I can pick out the lack of clarity and shimmer effect on higher APL games. The 480Hz mode is extremely fast and fun to use but the clarity for anything other than video games is quite atrocious. I was also disappointed in the factory color calibration with the sRGB mode being poor in particular. The other issue with the LG was shadow detail as blacks were crushed. Just my two cents!

@apostolos8734 Ай бұрын

Ever since I got my iPhone 12, every other display in my house became OLED. Once you learn how to properly calibrate your displays for hdr it’s hard to go back to anything else.

@ChibiTheEdgehog Ай бұрын

So, wait, why when the iPhone 12 did it? Cellphones have been Oleds since the Galaxy Note 8. Nothing has changed with OLED since then. They found ways to combat burn in but that's about it.

@papiertoilette-pb9lf Ай бұрын

@@ChibiTheEdgehogMaybe because most people juste buy apple and nothing else and because apple was late then they were late aswell 🤷

@apostolos8734 Ай бұрын

@@ChibiTheEdgehog my first phone with an oled screen was an iPhone 12, before that I never had the income to buy anything better than mid range smartphones.

@blizyon30fps86 Ай бұрын

@@ChibiTheEdgehogbecause ppl by iPhone not Samsung

@lenscapes2755 Ай бұрын

@@ChibiTheEdgehog Note 8? Samsung goes all the way back to Galaxy S1 for OLED. Even my Nokia C6 was an OLED and I remember buying it in 2010. All my phone purchases were OLEDs since then.

@gessler555 Ай бұрын

How deep is your desk exactly? I'm thinking of getting a 42" C3 or C4 for my desk which is about 21" deep and I was wondering if it would be too close even if I push it all the way back to the wall.

@bricaaron3978 28 күн бұрын

The farther away your display (i.e. the higher the view distance) the lower your Display FoV. If you value immersion you want the largest Display FoV possible. I use a 55" 4K OLED at a view distance of 18", which gives a horizontal Display FoV of 106°. The key is that the In-game FoV must be raised to match the Display FoV, at which point the image is perfect --- neither "zoomed in" nor distorted. You can mount your display on a sliding stand so that you can control the view distance --- e.g. close for gaming, and farther for OS use, or for games that don't allow the FoV to be raised high enough.

@1stWorldProblemsSolved Ай бұрын

A lot of people seem for forget the 4k 42 inch bendable WOLED from LG, that's a great option and I've seen nothing but great reviews come from it as well. I am going to go this route for my next display + a next gen big screen beyond if they ever come out with a refresh version fixing the lens and add eye tracking.

@ahmedpc03 Ай бұрын

the only downside of oled monitors that makes me hesitated to buy one, is the adaptive sync flickering issue.

@123TheCloop Ай бұрын

well your basically shit out of luck on that cz even VAs suffer from this issue. the only brand ive seen mitigate this issue is samsung with there VRR flickering setting but apparently that induces stutter/latency

@rochester3 Ай бұрын

i dont have that issue wit my oled cx

@biglittleboy9827 Ай бұрын

@@rochester3 You are lying. Every oled have this issue. If you don't have it then you are just playing minecraft at 120 fps locked all the time. Go play ANY games in 4k in VRR with an unstable framerate, you will have flickering issue. Every single oled have the issue. I myself have a cx oled 65'' and I'm telling you, it have flickering issue. You have it too, 1000%. Either your brain is too slow and dont see it, either you are just playing minor games in 144p at 120 stable fps, either you are lying.

@matthewponton5632 Ай бұрын

@biglittleboy9827 bruh I have had an LG C3 for a year and a half and have NEVER had vrr flicker lol. What on God's earth are you talking about?

@Noah765 Ай бұрын

There is no adaptive sync flickering. I have the Samsung Odyssey OLED G8.

@Xsetsu Ай бұрын

I really like OLED but tbh Samsung VA panels are almost as good and even better in some instances. Usually you won't notice the difference, I have a Samsung 57" and a LG OLED side by side and the difference is smaller than you think. I would pick the VA panel over the OLED 90% of the time because of size, ultrawide, less worry about burn in, the brightness of the display in HDR content (the difference is really underestimated), etc. VA panels with MiniLED, and hopefully MicroLED, are really competitive with OLED.

@trumpameri1638 Ай бұрын

Samsung mini LED gaming masterpiece

@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын

And my 19 inch 1440p CRT from 2001 ruined OLEDs for me

@ehenningsen 6 күн бұрын

I went from a 7 year old, $250 1080p LCD Sanyo TV to an S90C 4k QD-OLED 144hz screen. It has changed my experience entirely. I used to scoff at good graphics, and i now know why - its because good graphics looked bad on my TV. Now i am immersed, completely. I am going to upgrade to an S95D this year as I view it as the ultimate display for gaming technologies.

@sauhamm3821 Ай бұрын

65" LG B9 - ruined me completely. i bought one on sale many many moons ago - and on a whim i thought, hmmm, let me plug my PC into this... I'd tried with every TV i owned and it was always trash. but i still had to give it a try, for science! imagine my surprise when the desktop came up and... wooooow... like OMG wow. my struggling 2070 at the time was only able to "play" certain games but that quickly turned into a 3070, then 3080 10gb and now a 4080 16 - all in effort to push 4k because i once made the "mistake" of connecting my PC to an OLED TV. rocking a 48 c2 now and it's, without question, the best gaming monitor i've ever owned.

@SilkMilkJilk 29 күн бұрын

just play 1080 with higher refreshrate, the pixel ratio is exactly 4:1

@divertiti Ай бұрын

Been PC gaming on OLED TV for almost 7 years now, 65" LG C6, now 77" LG C9, and just bought the 83" LG G4. Can't go back to a tiny monitor and definitely can't go back to LCD.

@bricaaron3978 28 күн бұрын

Ah... A fellow High FoV Gaming practitioner? Or do I misunderstand? I use a 55" 4K OLED at a view distance of 18", for a horizontal FoV of 106°. I'm thinking about getting a 77" OLED next in order to make ~130° FoV viable, but that's already hitting the boundary of acceptable angular resolution. Have you done much testing of VR displays for gaming?

@damiensilva8085 Ай бұрын

I enjoyed the video. I got the Alienware one 3 weeks ago and have been loving the upgrade from my old IPS monitor. It's my first curved panel and haven't minded the change because it is so big.

@simonklotz8817 10 күн бұрын

i had this thing in the past, where, at some point, always some kind of TV endet on my desk for the PC, even like 10 years ago. This made it easier for me to decide, that i do want an LG CX 48". And boy, this "TV" not only is the best monitor i've ever had for my PC, but, quite possibly, the best PC part i have ever bought! I have to recommend to everyone to just give it a chance and try it. It's the wet dream of a humongous monitor i had since the CRT days.. with even better black levels. What i also do is, i'm using quite low brightness levels, i use dark mode for everything (even dark reader plugin for chrome) and the "eye comfort" mode (=low blue light). This makes everything soooo much less offensive and less straining on your eyes. Remember: you do not need much brightness on OLEDs due to the perfect black levels and thus high contrast ratio. All in all, i couldn't be happier.

@krisbedgood6055 25 күн бұрын

Every OLED I have ever owned eventually burns in. The Pixel refresher offers diminishing returns. Organic decay is built into the technology. Anybody claiming it doesn't occur anymore is nothing more than wishful thinking. Why do you think it needs a pixel refresher. I guess if you don't look for it and ignore it I you can claim you've never had a problem but as I said before organic decay is built into the technology. Why would anybody want a disposable monitor no matter how pretty it is at first. If people would just stop buying them then maybe micro LED might become mainstream but as long as people are willing to pay for garbage then they will just keep selling them.

@jonny555333 24 күн бұрын

Because most enthusiast change out their monitor before any of those issues arise. People interested in this type of monitor most like change monitor every 3-4 years. Some even more frequently so it's never really an issue that comes up.

@verybadosuplayer9033 19 күн бұрын

if you have a phone with a screen it has an oled

@itsmilan4069 18 күн бұрын

@@verybadosuplayer9033laughs in 144hz FFS LCD phone 😂

@xpusostomos 6 күн бұрын

Don't complain about burn in without telling us what you did to it. I've had a OLED tv for ,7 years, no noticeable burnin. I got burn in on my galaxy note9 from watching KZfaq in vertical, but I learned my lesson and later phones don't have it because I watch horizontal or switch the screen off

@theripper121 5 күн бұрын

@@xpusostomos Burn in on a phone or a tv is simply not comparable to an OLED screen that sees typical PC usage. They can't even remotely be compared. PC users will always have much more instances of static images on screen no matter how much they try to mitigate it. The risk of burn is so many times higher on an oled that sees pc use. Which is exactly why brightness is down on oled monitors vs comparable tvs and some manufacturers giving no burn in warranty period.

@OpsMasterWoods Ай бұрын

Me having OLED on my phone for a decade,and using a VA panel.....

@mobarakjama5570 Ай бұрын

Same I hate my VA monitor tho 😂, the motion clarity is A$$.

@OpsMasterWoods Ай бұрын

@@mobarakjama5570 depends ,mine has good response Times

@AmeerWorld Ай бұрын

Went from 1440p 240hz Samsung G7 to LG C3 42inch Oled. I have a 4090 so 4k is a breeze. I'm happy with the C3 42" as it was the cheapest 4k Oled monitor/panel I can get. Picked up a new one last week for 899€.

@SinnfullDuck 29 күн бұрын

Id love an oled but ive held off because i do a lot of work in photoshop, sometimes spending 8hrs in the program. With that much time on a static ui, I've worried about burn in and held off on the purchase.

@CarbineDJ Ай бұрын

Never ever im going back to a regular monitor. Got a 48” LG C2 Oled with RTX 4090 and im still amazed when gaming at 4k compared with a regular 4k monitor or my 34” ultra wide monitor.

@ldope3904 Ай бұрын

Exactly. I have 3 different Samsung screens, 2 TVs and 1 monitor, all 4k. 60-120hz. $2000 curved TV was alright, overpriced gimmick. Other TV is newest of all, pretty disappointing, very glad I didn't buy it. My monitor, good second hand price, disappointed at visuals for being 4k, plus no internal speakers is mad annoying, pretty dim, does the job tho. Wasn't until I bought a brand new LG C3 for black friday that a screen left an impression on me. To this day, every time I turn it on it warms up and impresses me. People who come over always say something about it when we game or watch stuff, even if they've already come over. I bought the C3 to pair with my new pc with 7900xtx, and honestly the LG was the better technology decision. It just looks so insane, wish my eyes were that HD and colorful

@kelvinkms3671 Ай бұрын

Yes and LG C4 is even better with new 4K 144Hz speed.

@endostatic7687 Ай бұрын

I just watched a guy talking for 22 minutes about monitors that are more expensive than my whole setup lmao. Blud I'm using a 1440p IPS 170Hz Acer monitor that I got 2 years ago after working in summer for the first time and I'm using a 1650 with a r5 3600 to run it. The 1650 was already starting to be obsolete in normal 1080p so I'm literally stuck with upscale or die. Or just older games and e-sports (I mainly play fortnite, but even that is starting to get harder to run over time) I also started running some games at straight up 720p to account for that and it gives a really good performance boost without really looking so terrible. Since every pixel is stretched to exactly 4 pixels so there is no weird stretching or blurriness that happens. It's better than running 720p on a 1080p display. It's much more sharper and better. I also have this really old 900p monitor that I got for literally 15 dollars or smthn when I left for College. I took my pc with me but left my monitor back home and got this 17 or 21 inch monitor idek what display type it had, maybe TN? Although it had bad colors and all but I kinda loved just being able to crank that resolution slider to the max and just not having anything to worry about. It was fun but now my pc is back home so I don't use it anymore (I actually left it at my friend's house and didn't get it back cuz I'm too lazy) I literally hadn't had fun or taken full advantage of my main monitor yet tho. I'm honestly waiting for AMD's RX 8000 series or Intel's 2nd Gen GPUs. Cuz I prefer a more efficient lower powered modern card rather than an older cheaper but less efficient. Power draw is kinda a big deal here unfortunately. I honestly

@screamalongsongs Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video man! I love my 42” C2 and this is great education on the current scene. Im keeping mine for another year or two as I don’t need any of the new features.

@TheGrimMumble Ай бұрын

thanks dude, somehow i've completely missed QD-OLED not looking completely black. considering WOLED now, whereas before i had dismissed them due to its color spectrum not being as big. your deepdive was very helpful haha, thanks

@clem9808 Ай бұрын

My PS4 slim is plugged on a massive OLED 4k tv, while my 4070 is on a 21inch 60hz ips monitor.🤦

@yugdesiral Ай бұрын

Uhh plug into your tv bro

@ZykopathOfficial Ай бұрын

I'll only be interested when W-OLED monitors become available at around 300$ in the future. Don't even wanna guess how long that's gonna take.

@SKYzLxmit Ай бұрын

I say another 3 years

@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын

W-OLEDs have worse colors than my 4:3 1440p Samsung CRT from 2001. They struggle with yellows and reds. AMOLED phone screens look a lot better.

@mobarakjama5570 Ай бұрын

There is a Glossy ASUS WOLED, coming soon that I'll cost around $600.

@erictayet Ай бұрын

This is a great vid Daniel. Everyone has different needs and I appreciate your sharing the thought process, the weighing of pros and cons against your needs and current situation, critical thinking stuff. I've commented on HUB too. So here's my thought process. I'm going for the Gigabyte one because during the day, I work on emails and spreadsheets, but at night, I game, do my video editing and watch video. I'm quite sensitive to colour. When people say grey on QD-OLED, I actually see purple red, like my Samsing TV. However, when I'm looking at content, that's a non issue. Obviously if you have a side-by-side, that QD layer stands out like a sore thumb. The subsurface scattering coupled with no polarising layer makes it look the way it is. That's a compromise I'm willing to make coz I prefer a deeper colour where pure red is red, not red+white. When you think about it, a white LED is just another group of 3 RGB LEDs. DP2.1 is another reason I go with Gigabyte because visually lossless means certain shortcuts in colour space has been made where the human eye is less sensitive to. But just like high bitrate AAC vs lossless in the audio world, a trained eye or ear can tell the difference and future technology visually will show the shortcoming of DSC. If not at 32", then perhaps larger displays. I still remember the VGA vs DVI debate back in the day and while that's analog vs digital compared to the current lossy vs lossless, the argument is the same. DSC & Analog are both lossy tech and the cleanest picture at high refresh rates will still be lossless. Having said that, many people really can't tell the difference but I'm not taking a chance since I can tell the difference (back then) and I intend to keep the monitor until it dies.

@alirezanayebzadeh7294 Ай бұрын

great video man. For how many years exactly did you have the oled monitor and no burn in?

@FlugeTryne 13 күн бұрын

i used a 55" LG C1 for 2years in my living room and i only use PC on it to both game and watch stuff. Think it had around 6000++h use when i sold it to a friend because i now bought the LG G3. It was just as good as the day i bought it, LG is the best on this regard, and they have a 10year burn in warranty

@ldope3904 Ай бұрын

Got a LG C3 last black friday for $800. INSANE deal. Best technology decision I ever made. The screen is absolutely next level, never had impressions about a screen until then. Got it for my new PC with 7900xtx and the OLED tv was the better purchase than the actual PC. Can't believe games could look this good

@raven89k Ай бұрын

how does 1440p looks on it? Does it look grainy? don't have the money for a 4k card

@ugurinanc5177 Ай бұрын

I don't know why and how monitors can't bright as 5-6 years old OLED phones. I don't even talking about OLED monitors. Even IPS monitors mostly stays at 400max brightness :(

@JanM2 Ай бұрын

Phones use a different oled technology, could also be fundamentally because theyre that much smaller

@gamingagent80 Ай бұрын

Yeah the drastic difference in pixel density is the biggest reason@JanM2

@user-hr4hu8xb5f Ай бұрын

Heat issue, cost issue, etc. And usually OLED TVs are trading durability to peak brightness, that's why OLED TVs' panels fail fairly easily. Also, sustained 400nits in SDR is actually not an easy task. Most OLED TVs even the high end one and budget LCD TVs can't do it.

@Dionyzos Ай бұрын

Desktop monitors don't get used outside so they don't need to be as bright. OLED monitors would also burn in very quickly at 1000+ nits since they're turned on for longer and often display the same content for a very long time. Phones also get replaced earlier than monitors so burn in is less of an issue.

@I_THE_ME Ай бұрын

Phones reach their peak brightness for only a very brief moment and typically the maximum maintained brightness is around 600-800 nits.

@pajasan Ай бұрын

Almost half a year owner of LG 42 C31. At that time I was thinking about a higher end 32" 1440p 170Hz+ as upgrade to 8 years old FHD 60Hz plasma TV. Went to some local show rooms to check in person if that is what I really want. Ended up with another TV as PC monitor. It was not even a competition. Got better specs for less money and only made single compromise of max screen refreshrate.

@flyingpj Ай бұрын

OLED - some of the OG Daniel Owen content that I first watched on your channel! I pretty much only use OLED at this point - TV, phone, gaming monitor, tablet. The only LCD display I tolerate any more is the Apple Studio Display that I use for work, just because of the glossy screen and high pixel density even though it's only 60Hz. For work I also use a Macbook Pro with the Mini-LED display, but the pixel response time is dreadful on that even with 120Hz. I love the rapid development of OLED gaming monitors, but they still have some catching up to do with OLED TVs in terms of brightness for 1%-25% window sizes. Dream monitor is still QD-OLED (RGB stripe subpixel one day please) 40" 5120x2160 240Hz curved ultrawide panel - maybe next year please Samsung Display?

@Dhruv-qw7jf Ай бұрын

The fact that OLED is like 3-4 times the price of a comparable IPS panel, and it can suffer from things like burn-in is such a fundamental flaw for me. If I spent such an heavy amount on a monitor, I'd expect it to last for at the very least, a decade. That's how long I've had my old AOC IPS panel monitor, which only broke down very recently because my cat decided to run over it and it fell over.

@siruspan Ай бұрын

You do worry about maybe someday eventually having burn in on oled but you did not care that you paid for a monitor that display grey instead of black, has ips glow and backlight bleed? Seriously?

@nickpinkowski Ай бұрын

Well, display market was never perfect. Before OLED you could choose between better contrast VA panel with slower response times, more noticeable ghosting and bad viewing angles or IPS with good colors, but horrible contrast and infamous IPS glow. OLED brings perfect viewing angles, perfect contrast, instantaneous response times, lower power draw, waaay more impactful HDR presentation at the expense of potential burn in. It was always a compromise. BUT, I have had LG C1 WOLED for almost 3 years now for my PC (job as a programmer, a lot of web viewing with static content, games) used for many hours a day and I don't notice any burn in, and I'm a first person to notice such things (being one of the first adopters of OLED as a monitor I think confirms that as I had given up on LCDs lol). I think it's worth it, even if it lasts for 5 years with good performance. I have LCD TVs in my basement that have burn in! So that's one more reason to be a bit more forgiving for a OLED, because they give you a lot for a one drawback, but I understand for some it's not that small. But I'm fine with that given what I get in return compared to LCDs.

@zodwraith5745 Ай бұрын

@@siruspan You don't notice mediocre contrast when it's sitting by itself. You DO notice burn in sitting by itself. I had a TV that several local dimming zones went out and it was obnoxious AF to look at. Every time you'd see a bright image there was chunks of the screen that looked like a dirty splotch. I'd have preferred it not have the local dimming at all after that.

@jjlw2378 Ай бұрын

10yrs for a monitor? I always sell off/give away my monitors well before 10yrs. I don't even keep my vehicles for 10yrs. 5-6yrs is more than long enough time for monitors/TVs.

@zodwraith5745 Ай бұрын

@@jjlw2378 That's just copium. Displays aren't disposable but it's obvious the people selling them have convinced you otherwise.

@LayerZlayer2000 Ай бұрын

Same here replaced my LG OLED C1 but to an LG OLED G3 🥰 best

@GrandoSilver Ай бұрын

If only LG make it 42".... 55" is too much for me. That`s why im stay with my C2

@LayerZlayer2000 Ай бұрын

@@GrandoSilver they do already with c4

@GrandoSilver Ай бұрын

@@LayerZlayer2000 Nah bro. I mean they really need make G series 42"/48". That`s what i mean. C series is badget series it is not high end tech from LG.

@lil_pai Ай бұрын

Do update us on the matte finish.. And please keep it unbiased, as Optimum’s review seemed kind of like *’Yeah it’s no big deal’* *’I kind of like it, it lessens the glare’* - Okay, but is there a visible and noticeable clarity difference? Yes or no? If I’m buying a screen for damn near 1800$ as it costs where I live, I want to be sure it’s not visually noticeable

@Bigtymer781 Ай бұрын

I'm on a 48 inch OLED, LG C3. I think 48 inches is perfect, because its great for watching movies also. If its "too big", then sit a few inches back. When you have windows scaling set to 100% @4K resolution, its still hard to see everything on the screen because its so small, but its possible. So to me, that means 48 inches is not too big at all. I agree though, you can't go back to a non OLED. The perfect blacks and HDR are so important for gaming, its almost as important as having a good graphic card.

@Kapono5150 Ай бұрын

I just don’t understand why you feel like you need Display Port 2.1. Hardware unboxed already showed there is no visible difference

@gregdaweson4657 23 күн бұрын

Well, if I had my way, my old monitor would have vga. I like the Analog noise.

@astreakaito5625 Ай бұрын

You're doing a huge mistake by replacing your C1. It's the last OLED monitor/TV with a 120hz BFI option. It's INSANELY GOOD for gaming because it makes 120FPS looks like 300FPS to the human eye with no tricks and no lag. The C2 onward and other brand of the same year all decided to remove this option. I'm keeping my C1 until it turns to dust.

@silverroos Ай бұрын

You are not wrong, but it gets super dim when using bfi. It kinda ruins hdr for me.

@MaxIronsThird Ай бұрын

BFI only works for stuff below 60fps, what are you talking about

@cajampa Ай бұрын

@@MaxIronsThird That is his whole point. The C1 works at 120 Hz, every one after that only work at up to 60 hz. I don't own the C1 but that is how I understand it works anyway.

@rami9225 Ай бұрын

@@cajampacorrect, the C1 supports BFI up to 120hz

@MaxIronsThird Ай бұрын

@@rami9225 how would that even work, it's a 120Hz screen, how can it do 120Hz BFI?

@lucaseverin666 15 күн бұрын

A issue with OLEDs is the pixels just dying after some use I got my LG TV replaced 2 times after just 4 moths of movie watching Its not gonna last long before the screen is full of dead pixels

@joechapman8208 Ай бұрын

Good to hear about burn-in. I do use my OLED for apps but I always open them smaller than fullscreen and move them slightly from time to time, and also use pixel refresh every time the monitor suggests it (roughly every 3h). Hopefully, that's enough to extend its life. The one I have is the AW3423DWF (the black, updatedable refresh of the DW you mentioned), and if you set the monitor at the intended distance the curve does not affect your sense of straight lines; far from it, it actually straightens lines out. Ironically, it's large flat screens that feel inaccurate to me now.

@KrisDee1981 Ай бұрын

Daniel i hate to tell you, but going from glossy LG OLED TV to matte OLED monitor you will absolutely hate the screen.

@MD-se8ft Ай бұрын

Burn-in is the worst thing about oled, until that is fixed I'm not buying an oled screen

@yugdesiral Ай бұрын

I'm using screen savers again for the first time in over 20 years.

@mikec2845 Ай бұрын

screen savers and pixel refresh options make it basically a non-issue.

@shodancat1000 Ай бұрын

i've been using a C1 for almost 3 years 8+ hours a day, still not a single burn in issue.

@pdrey100 Ай бұрын

@@mikec2845 $1000.00+ > basically.

@toxicturkeyy Ай бұрын

for gaming it's not an issue. Productivity sure, but the benefits of OLED are fewest in productivity anyway. They're content consumption beasts. Nothing lasts forever.

@nicholaslewis279 28 күн бұрын

ever since switching to 4k in general, I can't go back to that plebian 1080p resolution

@victormontiel316 Ай бұрын

Hey Daniel!, im just looking for a qhd monitor but ips, do you have any recomendation? thanks a lot for ur effort!

@astreakaito5625 Ай бұрын

Repeating myself but the C1 has the BFI aka Oled Motion Pro option that boosts visual clarity from 120fps to 312FPS already and does it in a much better way by removing motionblur with no cost in lag or adding visual artifacts (only reduce the brightness a little) than frame generation ever will match. 48" also isn't that big if you get a deeper desk. I'm really disappointed that you're downgrading to something else.

@RandomUnassignedYTHandle Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's nuts! Hopefully he at least keeps the C1 somewhere safe so that this is still recoverable. (Getting a new CX or C1 at this point would cost a small fortune if he could even still find one. I barely was able to still get one last year when I finally switched to OLED.)

@StatusQuo209 Ай бұрын

Yep. Main reason I will never get rid of my LG C1 48. It's gonna be a retro gaming TV once it retires as a PC monitor.

@astreakaito5625 Ай бұрын

I'm literally unsubbing. Do NOT abandon the C1, you're gonna regret it once you realize what you're about to miss out on.

@grospoulpe951 Ай бұрын

“There are no wrong decisions - only different ones.” - Libba Bray 😉 Personally, I bought the Alienware 32, 240 Hz (received several weeks ago) : great change for me (from a 144Hz VA display, also curved, same size). My main complain : HDR management, and brightness (a bit too low in some situation, mainly Windows desktop apps) EDIT: and, in France, that display is the cheapest (1120€ vs 1500€ or even more), and almost the only available (the Gigabyte DP 2.1 is also available, but cost much more : 1600+€) EDIT 2: and the curve of the Alienware is very "small"... so, not a real problem.

@atchmon902 Ай бұрын

I'm still happy with my C7. 10 years later. Once u get my house the way I want, I'll probably buy a gamer OLED TV for my game. The older I get the less u want to sit at a desk. The more I want my recliner or bed.

@jemborg Ай бұрын

The _mystify_ screen saver is the nicest imo. My friend's jaw dropped when he saw the colours come on... He thought the (oled) screen was off 😂

@yugdesiral Ай бұрын

Was just saying the same thing lol

@Muzick Ай бұрын

Absolutely phenomenal review Daniel. You are a master at your craft sir. Thank you for making this video. it's EXACTLY the thought process I was looking for when figuring out the pros and cons to everything related to monitors.

@skyrimgod1218 Ай бұрын

Honestly I just got a TCL QM8 and the picture quality is far better my LG CX. I find the dimming algorithm used in miniled TVs is far better than monitors. LCD monitors still have a long way to come.

@HurricaneSparky Ай бұрын

I think the buy-in for 4k gaming is still too expensive right now. It's far, far cheaper to do 1440p and reach higher graphical fidelity and framerate, and your options in monitors is much more affordable.

@SuperNicktendo 18 күн бұрын

I have had a G1 Oled for a couple of years. I bought the iPad Pro since they went Oled and then I got the Samsung G8 32 inch. It also has a matte finish and since I have my desk up to the window, it's a welcome feature. Not too worried about burn in. I have had a 720p plasma for 14 years and it just barely has burn in when you run the test. Otherwise you don't notice at all. So unless you're working constantly I don't see an issue.

@jrlivingspaces Ай бұрын

You will not be disappointed with the LG. I've seen it in person and the matte finish is not that bad actually looks like a painting when you display something full screen. You could also see your own reflection in it but its just more muted than it is on the qd-oled. I'm saving up to get this one but also keeping an eye out for a sale!

@nicholasrodriguez2071 Ай бұрын

You described exactly what I have been going through ever since these new 4k oled monitors have come out. I decided to just hold off and stay with the C1 to see if anything better comes out

@FlyTimeRC Ай бұрын

I went from a cheap viotek 3440x1440 to a 42" LG c2. I loved it. I just upgraded to the LG c3 55" and it's amazing. A game changer for flight Sim and basically every RPG game it's beautiful.

@tsorakin Ай бұрын

Hey Daniel, how is your displays with OLED flicker? I have both a 48" LG and what appears to be the same Alienware you have, and I experience flicker on both anytime I experience inconsistent frametimes. Do you have this issue on any of your displays? If so, do you know of any remedies?

@bricaaron3978 28 күн бұрын

There's no such thing as "OLED flicker". It's VRR flicker. It is just more noticeable on OLEDs because of the much faster pixel response time.

@nathanbraughton8836 28 күн бұрын

Never mind your excellent video on the monitors and display types.. Which Gibson you hiding in that corner Daniel??

@danielowentech 28 күн бұрын

I may have collected more Les Pauls than a person really needs...

@360Fov Ай бұрын

I can't imagine 480hz! I would be OBSESSED with trying to actually attain 480fps, and maintaining it. For some people, around 500hz is a point at which they would feel like they are looking through a window... in other words, it's like seeing 'real life'.... for others is closer to 1000 hz. I hope NVidia 5XXX brings back SLI!!

@Icenfyre Ай бұрын

at 300+ fps you are CPU bottlenecked. Pray for better CPUs instead. GPU tech is way ahead.

@DesuVR Ай бұрын

I love my Philips Evnia 34" ultrawide! It's a QD-OLED and perfect for my needs. HDR looks amazing on it, not concerned about brightness as I have sensitive eyes, and the color accuracy is fantastic for productivity. I'm not sweating the burn-in risk as the monitor has pixel refresh and pixel orbiting, and I tend to use my displays on low-brightness anyway. Even the speakers are pretty decent, saving me desk space from having external computer speakers and I just use Hi-Fi headphones for when audio is important. P.S. This got me thinking, why don't smartphones have a pixel refresh function? I have an old Google Pixel 3a that has burn-in from using Google Maps often on it. It could really use a refresh.

@dannybenitez9986 Ай бұрын

I feel you, I started with the sony a8g 55, then the lg c9 55 for the 120hz, alienware aw3423dw qd-oled, samsung s95c 77 qd-oled and now I want the asus g16 2024 because of the oled 240hz at 2560x1600. This is really a rabbit hole.

@catriona_drummond Ай бұрын

I feel like I am still waiting and saving up. I have been through several round of contemplating and researching a new set of monitors for my setup, but the more I look into it that more doubt comes up. Maybe next year.

@billwiley7216 8 күн бұрын

I did the watching for "burn in" routine decades ago with plasma tv's another format that had excellent picture quality and the burn in weakness. I swore then I would not jump back down that rabbit hole with oled. Even as just using them for tv's, the experts in the field really do not recommend an oled for the type of user that turns their tv on in the morning and just leaves it on all day, but says they are better for people who watch movies and limit the content shown such as a dedicated home theater type of use. Again sure reminds me of the old plasma days. These days there are mini leds that closely rival the looks and picture performance of OLED without the hassles of burn in and needing to baby or worry about screen damage which too me is a better option. I am talking about tv's here and not sure what is available in the monitor arena.

@MistyKathrine Ай бұрын

If you go from 48'' to 32'' you might feel like your new screen is "too small". Especially when you're video editing. I've been using the LG C1 55'' last few years for my computer that I do video editing on and I absolutely love the extra screen real estate and couldn't imagine doing it on a much smaller screen.

@User-ys7cb 19 күн бұрын

This goes both ways. Once you get used to something, everything else will feel strange. The upside is that humans can get used to pretty much anything.

@WhiteHawk77 Ай бұрын

I’m never going back down to regular monitor sizes, my LG CX 48 inch will replaced with a OLED TV of same or similar size. Personally I don’t have too much in the way of static images etc so haven’t had any image retention but be aware, the pixel refresher works by making the other pixels as bad as the burned ones, it’s not something you should do too often as you are wearing out the display quicker.

@RandomUnassignedYTHandle Ай бұрын

OMG Daniel keep the C1! It's still the best thing, because it and its sibling the CX are the only ones with advanced hardware rolling scan BFI yielding an effective 300Hz motion clarity or more. At the cost of only 120Hz at 4K! There's still just nothing else like them in the OLED space. Please if you haven't tried BFI do so. Coming from an FW900 CRT, the CX/C1, finally gave me an off ramp. No way I'd trade this display for that one you picked with out the motion clarity at 4K like this one has. And also if you think the almost miraculous screen finish the C series has is the norm for LGs you're in for a rude shock with that terrible matte coating that LG has so far insisted on using with their OLED monitors...

@Bobby2Hotty83 Ай бұрын

I have a question, aren't you gonna lose HDR performance on the new LG 32" oled vs the older LG C1 ? i believe the c1 had more peak hdr brightness then these 32" monitors? HDR gaming on my c1 is amazing and i cant sacrifice that hdr performance i feel

@mikea8294 Ай бұрын

I had pre-ordered the Dough 32" 4K OLED monitor, which is another W-OLED monitor but with gorilla glass, which should reduce reflections and help with text clarity. Can't wait to get it although it looks like it will probably not ship until September.

@NSXtacy- Ай бұрын

Had the KTC 27" OLED and returned it for the Odyssey G8 OLED, which I also returned for an Acer XV275kp3 which IMO looks way better than either of those dim OLED's. Not totally fair to compare them since they were 1440p but the 4K Acer was $150 cheaper, and gets blindingly bright making HDR pop more, I did like the ultrawide on the G8 OLED however.

@simonvh7092 29 күн бұрын

QD-OLED doesn't nessecarily reflect light differently. Because they're gaming monitors (especially the ultrawides) and generally used in the dark (rather than TVs or productivity monitors) they have a Glossy coating. The glossy coating is what gives the more defined reflections and general brighter hue in bright environments, but actually look better in the dark. (WOLED usually has a Matte coating, there's downsides to both options)

@bauer9101 Ай бұрын

My OCD cannot handle the thought of the burn in ‘issue’. I admit it’s my fault but I’m a strange person.

@molsen7549 24 күн бұрын

Despite the MSI models having the lowest retail pricing, the Alienware model can most commonly be found on sale for open-box units at Best Buy (at least in my area). I've seen them as low as 1100 CAD.