These are both true, and great points to add!

Damn, I had no desire to upgrade until I read that. A generic power bank feature means not carrying a separate one as well. Though a separate one can pack a bigger and longer punch. Do you know which modes it can do? PD? QC?

@@fredio54 I don’t know. The manual only says 5 volt 2.4 amps max for USB-C output. It doesn’t mention protocols. Given the fact it’s always 5 volts, I’m guessing no PD or QC.

Great use-case.

hehehe rack work.

Awesome! Thank you!

Yeah high CRI emitter are the only thing I miss now that Olight has started offering dual charging methods (the classic magnetic tailcap + USB-C in the same flashlight). A Nichia 519A or Samsung LH351D in 4000K and 5000K would really be the cherry on top! 👌

High CRI comes at a cost of lumens. Olight isn’t willing to give those lumens up. So for now it’s up to flashlight modders to stick the emitter you want in the Olight model you like.

It would cost them nothing to have it as an option like they used to on their original lines. They 100% know that we have been asking for this for years now so I'm almost certain that they are deliberately using the obnoxious tints as some sort of strange toxicity.

​@@cheuleAt least to me that lumen difference is unnoticeable in actual use. I can see why they want to entirely for marketing purposes, they are after all always very accurate with their lumen claims, but it would cost them nothing to offer us a better tint as an option.

How does the 519a impact on runtimes? I did a runtime test with a wurkoss fc11 with 519 and 1100 mah 18350 at 300 lumens and it was trounced by warrior nano at 400 lumens. The nano lasted about an hour longer.

Don’t make me cry!

It’s metallic and firm like WM3

@@sthrngunz Thanks for your response

I’ll post a short about the case charging protocols and dimension tomorrow.

I don’t mind edcing large lights either!

I’d rather bring a USB-C than an MCC proprietary cable, there’s the difference. I can charge the light and my phone with 1 cable.

Based on my general knowledge of olight’s batteries: no. Their proprietary batteries have the positive and negative terminals on the same end (not one at each end like normal).

Obviously I agree!

You’re not wrong!

I'd probably use the case more on a daily basis to top up my phone than the light itself. But I'd be safe knowing there's a powerful little light in there if I need it. With the Baton 3 case, you could argue against getting the case because it didn't charge anything other than the light, but with this the case is a no brainer. That said, I carry at least 4 flashlights all the time anyway but for regular people or if I wanted to trim down my EDC, this would be a great option.

You're right about that. Adding the ability to charge other devices was a great idea. And being able to top up with usb-c is pretty convenient. But I already have a dedicated battery bank that is smaller and 10,000mah. It's a cool gadget for the right person @@krazYFaic

@@krazYFaic 4 flashlights? For what? Thrower, flooder, high cri, and uv? Lol

@@sethmichael8188 Basically. Yeah. lol. I carry a Convoy s2 with a 5 degree TIR and 519A 4500K (Thrower, hi-CRI), Sofirn SP10 Pro (not exactly flood but floodier than the Convoy, also hi-CRI), Olight Warrior Nano (in between the first 2), Nitecore MT06MD (hi-CRI) and Olight i3E UV. Most of them are in a pocket organiser with a Nitecore TIKI (Lantern) attached.

If you are never off grid or without a nearby power outlet...or spent any amount of time with a power outage... these cases obviously won't have any use for you. You simply aren't in the market they are aimed at. The primary use case (to me at least) for the old Baton 3 case... was to have a wireless charging station for your light when you are "off grid" or during a power outage. Sure you could have a larger light with a larger battery... but having the ability to separate that capacity from the light means the smaller light is more handy in tight spaces or as a hands free light. For example while illuminating something inside a "cabinet" while maintaining a vending coffee machine... you can get the light directly on the component you are working on behind several other layers of circuit boards a boiler...etc. The batons make great hands free hat lights "because" of how small they are. You can "kinda" do the same with larger lights... but not as comfortably. With the new Baton 4 case... it's just added backwards compatibility to several other existing lights in the same size range. The fact that the case also acts as a battery pack for phones and other devices just makes it better. Here in Florida we have these "little" storms called hurricanes that do incidental stuff like knock out the power for a week when they do enough damage to the grid. Having another other means of keeping my devices going is always nice.

Yes

Isn’t that always the way!

Yeah, that's the thing with Olight. They'll bring out a new version in a few months and make the previous one look bad. In reality the older versions are equally relevant. The only major upgrade I've seen from them has been the M2R to M2R Pro, I'm still running that light and it's still beating most competitors (mostly on UI, beam pattern and aesthetics) I have no desire for any of the "upgrades" even thought there are 3 or 4 new versions since. I also love the original NW H2R over any of the Peruns easily.

Literally same

I have the Baton 3 special edition in titanium, the seasons fall version, which I liked the best of the four Olight offered. I am still going to keep it even though the Baton 4 is on the way.

Yes

I will hook it up to my usb tester and make a short. Look for it later today.

Well, the new case is a really big improvement in almost every way, and that is just on top of the power level indicator and segmented power indicator on the 4.

And it can use the baton 3 and perun headlamp. This is the one to get. I passed on the baton3 for a while. But this is a great package for backpackers.

don't ask in good conscience, he's just trying to sell a product

Of course it isn't. Unless you need a second light with the same kind of performance envelope, or want to sell/give away the B3

@@sethmichael8188 Yes, exactly, now I can finally charge my Baton 4, my Baton 3, my Perun Mini and my Perun 2 Mini all in one case! Awesome!

I think you are going through the same “story arc” I went though…. I didn’t understand how small this light was until I got one. It’s astoundingly small. And of course the charging case makes the battery feel much bigger than it is.

How can a lower moonlight not be better?

@@cheule olight say the moonlight is the same lumens as the baton 3 but can't be as it's half the brightness it's just too dim I prefer the brightness of the baton 3 moonlight mode

@@digmastersi8026 I was just measuring some lights… I find 0.5lm the brightest I want for ML, preferably under 0.2lm. I tried to measure my Cool Fall Trek, and I have it so low it’s unreadable by my equipment (less than 0.1lm).

Can you elaborate on what you mean?

I just repeated your words that I found funny watching your review. I didn't mean any harm. You are one of my main sources of info since I tumbled down the flashlight hole. Peace

The level of green bears that out as well

they're pulling an Apple maneuver. when they finally make high CRI an option we will all fall for it and buy them.

​@@AmnesiaTannerExactly. And they'll market it as something ultra-special too no doubt.