Olympus 17mm f1.2 Pro vs. Olympus 17mm f1.8

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Olympus 17mm f1.2 Pro vs. Olympus 17mm f1.8

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5 жыл бұрын

Olympus 17mm F1.2 Pro and Olympus 17mm f1.8 head to head!
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Olympus 17mm F1.2 Pro and Olympus 17mm f1.8 are both very good lenses. Wich one should you get? I hope this Olympus 17mm f1.2 Pro vs. Olympus 17mm f1.8 video will help you decide.
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@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 жыл бұрын

This channel is gold.

@JoeyTecuani 5 жыл бұрын

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@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks for your comment! I am a sub of your channel.

@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 жыл бұрын

Cool :)

@johandewitt1414 2 жыл бұрын

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@TuJabe 5 жыл бұрын

Both lenses are interessting. I like the possibility to blur out the background more. However i think those very small and flat lenses with f/1.8 are extremly charming and make you feel flexible, mobile and may be even more free and independent when you use them (i know that sounds a bit ridicoulus).

@johnbradshaw5900 6 ай бұрын

Great video! One of the attractions of the Zuiko range is that the standard lenses perform very well and you don't have to spend $$$$$$s to get an excellent lens. Of course you lose the beautiful build of the Pro series and apertures are slower but if the max aperture is not a problem then the standard series are probably all the lens most will be need. On the other hand I find something addictive about the feel and handling of the pro series, they're beautifully made with an oily smoothness.

@chris4577 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good comparison of the lenses. I use both lenses. The 1.8 mainly for the street photography and the lenses of the 1.2 series for weddings and other photo jobs.

@ollipelz 5 жыл бұрын

Great video once again! I have been wondering about the difference of these lenses for a long time. Good to hear your opinion. The pro looks huge and heavy compared to the 1.8. One more thing is that the 1.8 fits better for situations where you don't want your camera to attract too much attention.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, a smaller combo will get less attention.

@Lindonedhel 3 жыл бұрын

"A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do..." xD Thanks for standing in the cold for us to learn this... :D

@RepublicAllegiance 5 жыл бұрын

The composition of this video was clearly done by a photographer.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was.

@magic10rm 5 жыл бұрын

No examples photos at The end? Why? :(

@artistjoh 2 жыл бұрын

The 1.8 is my first preference. That 46mm filter thread is important, and it is a far better weight than the 1.2 Pro and takes very little room in the camera bag. Takes great photographs. The fact that it is a much better price is just icing on the cake.

@AnastasTarpanov 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I'm going to prefer the 1.8 version anymore. If it's combined with E-M10 camera for example for travel and street then is perfect, but for my E-M1 II, the PRO version is the way to go. The weather sealing is must have of course, but there is something else that you're not mentioning in your video and this is subject rendering. The 1.2 version is giving a little 3D pop, especially if you shoot environmental portraits or something like that and the 1.8 version is lacking that and this is the main benefit for me. Will be glad if you test it and share the results.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

That is true and I did not cover or test that 3D pop on these lenses.

@hansedvard2623 3 жыл бұрын

A good comparison, but I would like to have seen how sharp each lens was, and the difference in softness on the edges as well.

@badgerag 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, I've been looking forward to your 17mm lens comparison. Thanks for Posting and putting up with the cold! I'd love to own the 17mm pro!

@truder55 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter, a bit cold you say, whilst taking images of a frozen Ocean 🤣🤣

@PhiggysDOTcom 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comparison the 17mm isn't my go to focal length hence I still have my m.zuiko 17mm f2.8. I can only say when I have used it I haven't found it to be as bad as people have made out. For me the trio of f1:1.2 lenses are not on my shopping list as size and weight takes priority with being disabled. And this is where 4/3 comes into its own for me 😊👍🏻

@paulm8157 5 жыл бұрын

Good overall comparison, Peter. Extra stop and weather sealing would be major performance factors. Would have liked to see comparison of image sharpness at wide open apertures. Histograms in camera are JPEGS - wonder if there would be differences when RAW histograms are compared in Lightroom.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

The difference in Lr in about the same as in jpg.

@daysofgrace2934 3 жыл бұрын

The ointment in the fly is Lumix Leica 15mm F1.7, slightly wider but nothing a step or two closer to the subject can't fix, coupled with hugely superior image quality than the Zuiko 1.8 and hugely more compact than F1.2... Even though I like Oly cameras & lens but the Lumix Leica primes seem to get one over Oly all the time. They hit the sweet spot for size, image quality and brightness Pany 25mm F1.4 vs Oly 25mm F1.2, Pany 15mm F1.7 vs Oly 17mm F1.8/17mm F1.2, Pany 12mm F1.4 (costs a lot more but a different class) vs Oly 12mm F2...

@JonPYbanez 5 жыл бұрын

great review. and, we appreciate you sacrificing your comfort for the sake of learning more about the performance of the two lenses

@glennsak 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this comparison! Was trying to decide which 17 to get.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Hope this helps to decide.

@seamuswarren Жыл бұрын

Might repositioning the f/1.8 lens back a little - maybe only a step back from the subject - offset two of the pro lens advantages? I’m wondering if the f/1.8 field of view and bokeh might be indistinguishable.

@ianbrowne9304 2 жыл бұрын

I went the other way about 10 years ago and bought the Panasonic 20mm instead for mostly urban photography . Like you said / suggested this tiny depth of field fade is over done IMO . You can add blur PP; but not remove it . Without looking I'm not sure of the Fstop --- F1.7 maybe; never use it . Getting in close: I feel the crop tool (used sensibly) is the best and least expensive macro/close up lens available but this is hard to explain to the pixel counters. Best way to keep more depth of field also . Way off topic: my experiment with using the original JPG files is so surprising with very few raw/dng files seeing the inside of Lr5 . Working well ; thank you again :)

@RichardsModellingAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Weather sealing is important to me and the only reason I favour the 1.2 version.

@antonykyriacou8300 5 жыл бұрын

As many have mentioned, great set of videos. But my gripe is the price point for the "pro" version I cant help but feel that Olympus have pushed it to far. Currently March 2019, the 17mm f1.8 is retailing at £449 and the 17mm f1.2 £1,199 a difference of £750. Which I think is far to much. If the 17mm f1.2 was double the price of the 17mm f1.8 then fair enough, I would probably buy a set of prime pro lenses to go with my EM1 X. Cheers.

@dayeah765caoni3 Жыл бұрын

Buy from eBay

@flyfishfotofan 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Peter. Did you already do a two-lens comparison of image quality? Or, perhaps I missed something?.

@alexreay4164 5 жыл бұрын

flyfishfotofan the Pro lens is significantly sharper and renders beautifully

@WMedl 5 жыл бұрын

@@alexreay4164 That is NOT the answer to flyfishfotofan's question! P.S. I would expect such a type of answer only from a priest...

@alexreay4164 5 жыл бұрын

WMedl 😂 gotta laugh

@alexreay4164 5 жыл бұрын

Loving the content Peter. At the UK Photo Show last week I took my 17 1.8 (and an SD card) to test against the 1.2 Pro. The Pro lens blew me away! Significantly sharper at 1.8 and incredibly sharp at 1.2. Beautiful rendering and I also noticed the same as you pointed out, with both lenses at the same aperture and settings, the Pro lens is a little brighter. With both wide open, same s/s and Auto ISO, the Pro is one stop quicker, the ISO on the Pro being half that of the 1.8 (I had to see it to believe it) which is a huge benefit transforming low light work from potentially using 6,400 to 3,200 which is quite significant. Amazing lens that I will rent for the odd wedding I do. But I like small and I’d love Olympus to just improve the 17 1.8 IQ to that of the 45 1.8, and it would be a killer lens :-)

@raksh9 4 жыл бұрын

I suspect that the Olympus f1.8 primes have higher T stops (light transmission) compared with the f1.2 primes at the same F stops (aperture).

@jpsteiner2 10 ай бұрын

The 17 f/1.8 is one of my favorite lenses. The small size and manual clutch are great, and It pairs well with both the PEN E-Pl10 and the OM-5. The price point and size of the 17mm f/1.2 hold me back from getting this lens. I use the 20mm f/1.4 Pro instead, and that is a nice lens. A small 17mm pro lens would be great. Perhaps a small 17mm f/2 weather-sealed lens?

@richardbresden8474 5 жыл бұрын

To me a similar comparative decision is The Olympus 17 f1.8 versus the Leica 15 f1.7. I would be interested in your reactions. Although I prefer the perspective of the 17, it is so soft in comparison that using it seems like sabotaging opportunities.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting. Need to find out if I can get a hold of a Leica 15mm f1,7.

@funrunner1644 5 жыл бұрын

A comparation of the 'depth of field' would also useful, I assume this real reason for the pro lens. If convert it to full format the 1.8 is a 3.6 and the 1.2 is a 2.4 which should make a big difference to differnciate the object from background.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

That is true.

@theiansm 5 жыл бұрын

I like this guy. I'm gonna watch some more.

@yttean98 5 жыл бұрын

One stop advantage, 3 times the weight. and what about the price probably twice more? You don't go against physics, the wider the aperture the heavier and bigger the lens, maybe FF body and an equiv. lens combo would be better here. It gives you more flexibility.

@RogerBenno 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this. A Finn who says it is cold and he wants to go inside? It must have been freezing! Keep up the very informative blogs. This is exactly what i want. Comparing lenses, explaining lenses, showing the various functions of the cameras. So many other blogger's only talk about why your equipment isn't good enough and you need to buy different stuff - this is wearying and pointless, and takes away from the joy of photography, replacing it with anxiety and equipment envy. Thanks. By the way, was that a cafe built out of a shipping container behind you?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is a cafe inside of a shipping container. It is open only during summertime. Probably will be there for a few years only. The place will be full of houses in a few years. It is an old harbor area.

@Bassbarbie 4 жыл бұрын

I really love how you post up the differences on the screen so it's easy to compare them. Really well presented, thank you.

@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@mikeosinski50 5 жыл бұрын

Great video now I when I make a decision on these lens and won't worry did I choose the right one. You covered them both well.

@emarshallp 3 жыл бұрын

Excelent video. According to price i´m thinking on olympus 1.8 and Sigma 16mm 1.4, but the latest is kind of big. Thanks as always Peter! I found you as other photographers like Rob Trek, Red 35 Jimmy a must view!!!

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! i agree with your must view list of KZfaqrs!

@arnehedberg 5 жыл бұрын

I tried to take some focus bracket picture and used my 17 mm f1.8. I can not stack them to one picture in Olympus workshop. I believe Olympus have put in some limitations in this lens. It works just fine with my 12-40 mm f2.8 Pro.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, stacking only works o certain lenses. Bracketing can be done and then photos can be stacked in post, Helios software is on option and of course Photoshop.

@jeffdrew625 5 жыл бұрын

Yup! Excellent presentation! Regarding the weather; isn’t it a normal, winter’s day? Weather sealing a good choice for that liquid sunshine! 🥶

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is but I still do not care about that kind of weather.

@gabithemagyar 5 жыл бұрын

Very useful comparison ! Thank you !! :-) Based on the information in your video, I have decided to go for the F1.8 version plus the hood since, for possible harsh conditions during travel, I have the 14-150mm weather sealed lens for general outside "tourism" use. The 17mm would be for street photography in nice conditions and for inside at restaurants or community functions to take pictures of people. The remaining "hole" in my compact lens collection for travel would be a light weight fast lens for use inside art galleries and museums (to photograph paintings and artifacts) where flash is generally not allowed. Any suggestions as to which lens would be best suited for that museum/gallery use ?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

The 17mm f1.8 is good for that. But if you want something longer, then the 25mm f1.8 could be an option.

@brylleburcelango5567 5 жыл бұрын

straight to the point and friendly approach? well you just earned a like and a sub, thank you for the comparison, ill be getting the f1.8 version due to size. I will be pairing it with my new olympus em5 mark ii, got it for 350$CAD and im already in love.

@larrj8928 4 жыл бұрын

Hello. Thank you for making these videos. It helps us a lot especially me whose new to the M43 system. I came from canon aps-c and shifted to olympus 10 ii. I'm still trying to figure these little fella out, can't seem to appreciate photo quality at first since I keep comparing to the shots from my canon but thank you. :)

@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@honsuki 5 жыл бұрын

hi Peter, would you be able to compare/comment on the sharpness of the f1.2 against f1.8? How much of a difference?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

The Pro version is sharper. I am not able to do any scientific tests on that, bit it is sharper.

@rhiwderinraytube 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Peter. the f1.8 looks to be good value, but the real telling point is in image quality. perhaps a look at magnified image comparison at 100% , both centre and edge. Also, please could you do a video or two on setting up and using a flash gun on Olympus cameras, normal and high speed sync.???

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

You are right it could have been a bit more informative if it had a bit more on the image quality. There is a plan to make a video about the flashes and how to use them.

@evenhandedcommentor6102 Жыл бұрын

Just got the 17mm f/1.2 lens. Bought it used, but in perfect condition. Got it for a ridiculous price. It's like the seller had one of my arms behind my back forcing me to say yes. And then the seller threw in two very nice B+W ND filters....and that was like putting my other arm behind my back. I couldn't throw my money at the seller fast enough, but it was hard to reach my wallet with both arms being held behind my back. Haha. So, why the f/1.2 and not the f/1.8? I will use this lens for astrophotography. It's a full stop faster than the f/1.8....and it's actually very usable at f/1.2. Some high speed lenses are quite soft wide open. This f/1.2 is not. It's peak sharpness is at f/2, at least in my case. But plenty sharp at 1.2. As for the 17mm being not wide enough for astrophotography, thats what panorama stitching is for. Take a couple of pictures and tie them together...not a problem. As for the weight...my other cameras are full frame, so this lens is not something I consider at all heavy. And the filter size of 62mm...perfect. Already have the 12-40mm pro zoom...which is 62mm.

@ForsgardPeter Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@terrywbreedlove 3 жыл бұрын

I have a yet to see a good review of the new TTartisans 17mm 1.4 on MFT. I plan to buy one as soon as it is available here in the US.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

I will get a TTArtisan 17mm f1.4 for testing. I think it is already on its way.

@seamuswarren Жыл бұрын

Is Peter only using the KZfaq platform to share his insights?

@ForsgardPeter Жыл бұрын

Mostly only on KZfaq. I have written several books in the past. That is something I should propaply do again.

@whakabuti 5 жыл бұрын

Peter where’d you get your lens hood for the 1.8?

@datapro007 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice comparison. Thanks Peter.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

@garybrown9719 3 жыл бұрын

I have the 12mm f1.4 panasonic i like the pro size

5 жыл бұрын

Did you compared with Sigma 16mm f1,4?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

No, I did not.

@finnwang1538 11 ай бұрын

Always enjoyable and inspiring. Thank you, Peter 🤗📷🇳🇴

@ForsgardPeter 11 ай бұрын

Thanks.

@hiresmusic 5 жыл бұрын

How sharp is 1.2 wide opened ? Is it acceptable sharpness & dof? I have experience with Voigtlander 25 0.95, wide opened its dof is relatively small & hard to focus.Also contast lower.What about 1.2 Pro version?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

I would say sharp enough. Cannot say how it compares to the Voigtlander 25mm f0,95. Have not used the Voigtlander.

@terrywbreedlove 5 жыл бұрын

I had the 17mm 1.8 on my EM5 back in 2013. What a brilliant combination that was. Very fast AF and sharp and for me the perfect street focal length. Sadly both got stolen and I now shoot the Pen F but I still miss that 17mm.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Ou nou, that is sad. I hope you enjoy your Pen-F?

@charliethebubbles 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, pro lens is just a bit to expensive for me unfortunately!

@sunnybizz4857 5 жыл бұрын

Peter did you have a camera man for this video or did you do camera movement in post?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

I had a cameraman this time.

@ezagog1971 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. I really love my 17mm f1. 8 among the 12mm f2. 0 are my favorite ones, my go for traveling. Do you happen to know about a good L-Bracket for the OMD EM1 mark II that allows you to fully use the articulated screen? I know that the Kirk and RSS do not allow it. Thanks

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

I have this one. It is with Arca Swiss mount: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m4084.l1313&_nkw=OM-d%20e-m1%20mark%20ii%20L-bracket&fbclid=IwAR0IqoEWUU5z1mHg3SOJ6B7YEBBL4UVp2FKiRIv0J8vSDxjvMWFWWF3VBX0

@ezagog1971 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. It is the same one I’m currently using.

@garys639 5 жыл бұрын

As some of us oldtimers here Down Under still say , Bonza Mate.

@tdmartijn 4 жыл бұрын

Frrrrridays. Love it when he says that.

@sylvainhimmo 5 жыл бұрын

Does focus stacking work using both lens or only the pro version?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Pro lens only.

@Anarki2U 4 жыл бұрын

A good test is to use only one camera with the different lenses !

@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting.

@yankl1 5 жыл бұрын

What is the type of the shoulder bag here?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Olympus Explorer bag made by Manfrotto.

@rote-linie-hildesheim 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video, thanks !

@er1038 5 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this. Nicely done.

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@sess5206 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Neighbour! Hälsningar från Stockholm! Low light! The Voigtländer 17mm isn't weather sealed. Is the 0.95 F stop giving that much more light than the PRO Olympus f 1.2. Det är ljus upptagning som gäller, bokeh är inte så viktigt förmig, kul visst, men inte väsentligt!

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Stockholm! 0.95 to f1.2 is a bit less than a one stop of light.

@DivisionStreetDrums 5 жыл бұрын

Great video Peter, for me I will stick to the f1.8 version. I cannot afford the Pro version and besides I am not a pro lol

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

The f1.8 is a great lens.

@TXTundra-ex8bw 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you I’m so happy I bought 1.8 version images are fantastic I don’t think the 1.2 images are 4X better to justify the price. Love your videos. You’re one of the reasons I switched to Olympus. Sub

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I agree that the 17mm f1.8 has a better quality/price ratio than the pro-version.

@mhsvz6735 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. 17 mm f/1.8 for my money.

@ChrisProuse 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Peter! :) Having a tough time deciding between the f1.2 and Voigtlander's 17.5mm f0.95 - the weather sealing is a nice plus! Out of curiosity, does the f1.2 make much sound during continuous AF while filming?

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

No, it does not. It is quite quiet. A f0,95 is great for video. I have an SLR Magic 25mm f0,95 for video.

@ChrisProuse 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear Peter - no pun intended :)

@agylub 4 жыл бұрын

No hat in that weather? The answer is you must have every lens for the body you use. Personal travel f1.8. Paid job in a nightclub f1.2.

@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын

I know I should had a hat. I remember that it was quite cold.

@Anarki2U 4 жыл бұрын

I think that the MFT line-up of prime lenses are too limited and many of the primes too old !

@ForsgardPeter 4 жыл бұрын

The f1.8 line-up is. I agree that an upgrade to those lenses would be good.

@harryburnett7086 5 жыл бұрын

Peter wear a hat lol , love your channel and I can't afford the pro version so it's the more than eceptable 17 2.8 for me

@ForsgardPeter 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I should have my hat on. I forgot to take it with me.

@martini_served_here 4 жыл бұрын

u dont need to compare anything....u get what u pay for

@LarsKiel 5 жыл бұрын

👍

@frankyang5657 5 жыл бұрын

Talking too much, more photo comparison please !

@stehlealexander 5 жыл бұрын

Bokeh Differenz pls with 1.8 & there will be no real Differenzen.

@Jay19876 5 жыл бұрын

Your correct, Olympus states that the feathered Bokeh for their 17mm, 25mm and 45mm Pro F 1.2 lenses only works at apertures F1.2 and F1.4. So if you want the feathered bokeh look with there Pro primes you pretty much have to shoot wide open. Feathered bokeh just means that transitions are a little more subtle between objects in the out of focus area in comparison to a lens with "standard" bokeh at the same F stop.