Omnia misinterpreted their scholarly source on trauma

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Trauma or Drama: A Predictive Processing Perspective in the Continuum of Stress. Krupnik, V. (2020). doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.01248
Trauma or Adversity? Krupnik, V. (2019). drive.google.com/file/d/1yZkG...
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@__zofix__4390
@__zofix__4390 Жыл бұрын
I cry when people tell me to dance, simply because my friends in 4th grade told me my dancing is weird lol. I’m pretty sure it’s not a normal behaviour, but I do panic when I have to dance. It’s like a blocked ability I have yet to unlock again.
@veetoristh
@veetoristh Жыл бұрын
i guess I have the same "blocked-thingy" but kinda of different, I don't remember my childhood so I guess my brain blocked/"erased" these memories... but anyways, hope you'll be okay with your dancing someday
@reese9705
@reese9705 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I was made fun of a lot by my “best friend” in fourth and fifth grade, mostly about my athletic ability and now I get really stressed when I have to do anything vaguely athletic in front of other people.. I have a lot of other stuff that’s ‘blocked’ for p much the same reasons but that’s one example that stuck out
@cherilynsarts8845
@cherilynsarts8845 Жыл бұрын
Same
@blrryanii_
@blrryanii_ Жыл бұрын
Same except mine is doing gymnastics My own pe teacher made fun of me in front of the whole class in 4th grade so whenever my current pe teacher asks us to do that I just shake and cry and I'm just blocked like you said Let's hope we'll both get past that someday and you'll be able to dance and I'll be able to do gymnastics :))
@user-wn3wv5bx5e
@user-wn3wv5bx5e Жыл бұрын
I think this is more of a confidence issue rather than legitimate trauma. For trauma to happen is for something to actually happen while you're doing the thing, for example as for me, I developed stage fright after absolutely failing a gymnastic move in front of so many people. I've also been pressured to sing in front of the entire music class as a kid by my singing mentor without prior practice, and I knew beforehand that the other kids didn't like me, and so I cried in front of a whole ass class of kids that think I was the weird kid. I personally wouldn't even call this a trauma but it's close to its process, which includes the direct event actually happening to trigger the anxiety. You may say that bullying may be the trauma itself, and that's plausible, but in the case of the actual event - It's quite not reminiscent to the actual mental disorder. Fortunately, for things such as these, you _can_ still develop confidence. In fact, as of right now, I'm part of a zumba dance group that attracts a lot of people's attentions, and I was part of an operetta before the pandemic, and got to do a play 3 times in front of large audiences. I didn't just magically grow out of it, it did took a lot of self-reflection and pushing myself, but it's possible. All it takes is patience and knowing your actual limits. Don't just stop at this because some asshole told you that you couldn't do it, but also make sure to know the bounds of your comfort, that way you could believe that you're in control of yourself.
@pondersprocket2274
@pondersprocket2274 Жыл бұрын
Num num num num num Delicious nerd rhetoric~ My brain was practically mush by the time I got around to trying to look into Omnia’s source article, so it’s so nice to have someone more qualified on the subject break it down in an easy-to-digest format. Thank you for that~
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
AAAAA THANK YOU FOR NOTICING ME, SENPAI
@pondersprocket2274
@pondersprocket2274 Жыл бұрын
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@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
Yknow it’s gonna be a good vid when Ponder notices the vid 😭👌🏼
@Veryfreshveryflourish24
@Veryfreshveryflourish24 Жыл бұрын
Whoah octo mama/lizard person is here.
@willowtree3734
@willowtree3734 Жыл бұрын
:O Octo mama!
@ThatGreenMach1ne
@ThatGreenMach1ne Жыл бұрын
I think the worst part of it is that one of the scholarly sources they used was out of date and was from 2013. 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
I have no idea about that one 😔
@elirodriguez9958
@elirodriguez9958 Жыл бұрын
Terminology aside, "Drama" CAN legitimately be traumatic in itself. There are so many ways where stress responses can flourish, whether that is a result of worry caused by a particular event or personal experiences.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
agreed!
@Diana-mu7pc
@Diana-mu7pc Жыл бұрын
Drama, no matter what it's about, or whether it's online or in the material world, so often results in ostracism and shame, which I think most people can agree are stressful experiences which can contribute to trauma. I think that's a big part of the conversation that's missing. A small scruple between two people can be dealt with without hurting anyone, but when it becomes turned into drama for bystanders to hear about or witness, the entire context changes. That can be seriously impactful for the people involved, their ability to trust, their ability to learn or take criticism, etc.
@moraelity
@moraelity Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I’ve been traumatised from school drama
@elirodriguez9958
@elirodriguez9958 Жыл бұрын
@@moraelity hope it gets better, my guy 👊 people can be such assholes
@MooCow765
@MooCow765 Жыл бұрын
As you said drama and many other things people don’t deem as traumatic can very well turn into trauma, it depends on the peoples involved stress responses. A lot of people don’t realize this unfortunately and it can make many people think they are a fraud or don’t actually have trauma and are just being dramatic, but they aren’t. It also leads people to discredit others trauma which also sucks
@magenstaffarts
@magenstaffarts Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing up the misinterpretations without turning this into drama, as someone who just wants to teach. Also, your character designing in the art is lovely.
@annepamgkrth
@annepamgkrth Жыл бұрын
I love this. I know Peaches tried to explain why what Omnia said was bad, but this actually breaks it down with just the research sources.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@TuesdaysArt
@TuesdaysArt Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're speaking about this-over the years, I questioned whether I was "actually" traumatized or not because I don't have PTSD symptoms. I don't get vivid flashbacks and there isn't really one singular event that affected me because my trauma is the result of having an unstable environment throughout my entire life. Maybe this could be classified as C-PTSD, but it still doesn't feel quite right.
@king_of_nothing1808
@king_of_nothing1808 Жыл бұрын
I relate to that except with DID actually. I do have alters, but we rarely switch out and I keep very very few memories. I actually remember my trauma, but every one of my memories are very darkened out. It's like... 88% tinted in black and I honestly don't know why. But I do have alters, at 17. I noticed the first one at midfle school (I had a childhood... Experience-) Idk if I truly have it or not but I think I do, it's just not shaped to be like media. Another thing is when there is a switch, it's never really a full switch. It's co-switching, like I'm there but they're also talking. These can range from being subtle (like earlier today with one of my alter who was getting pissed at someone) to me knowing that they're there (like an anxiety attack). I have few that help, few that're there for suffering, three child alters andddd- Uh- Yeah, they have a mindspace. It's not fun, having people living with you. It can range from quiet (they actually can block out anything of hearing and I'm sitting there alone in my head) to loud af with headaches. I'm also autistic, so the "good" ones try to guide me along well. Once again, could not be DID :'>
@luminous3115
@luminous3115 Жыл бұрын
@@king_of_nothing1808 Have you heard of something called OSDD1? There are two, unofficial subtypes of OSDD1 called OSDD-1A and OSDD1-B. OSDD1-A has the same amnesia barriers between Alters like in DID, but they aren’t fully differentiated from eachother as in DID. Alters-or parts-in OSDD1-A tend to present as the same person, just at different ages or in different modes. For example: a work part who believes work is important important than anything, and a family part who believes family is more important than anything. There are amnesia barriers between them, but they are basically the same person just with different values and memories. OSDD1-B sounds kinda like what you’re describing. Alters that are at least somewhat different from eachother, like with DID alters, but much less amnesia between them. OSDD1-B systems tend to experience emotional amnesia more than anything. Say someone starts shouting at the Host, and triggers alter B-a protector alter-to front. So Alter B is arguing with this person and is mad at them, and when it’s over, the Host switches back. The Host may remember the argument, may remember some details, only the Host isn’t angry at the person the same way Alter B was. Co-con and passive influence are very common among OSDD1-B systems.
@user-wn3wv5bx5e
@user-wn3wv5bx5e Жыл бұрын
@@king_of_nothing1808 Had you been checked out by a psychologist/psychiatrist? This seems serious. Like, really concerning my guy. Hope you and commenter get help if you haven't.
@makine8013
@makine8013 Жыл бұрын
@@luminous3115 reminder: DID/OSSD is EXTREMELY rare, multiple therapists and mental health professionals haven’t seen a case for their entire career. Along with that, it’s not anything like “systems”, more about extreme memory lose and feeling of time being lost and panic attacks. Please see a mental health professionals if you are feeling like you might have it.
@luminous3115
@luminous3115 Жыл бұрын
@@makine8013 Question. Why are you responding to my comment? I’m not the one suspecting I may have DID or OSDD1, but the person I’m responding to thinks they may have it. And I’m not really sure what you mean by “not anything like ‘systems’.” Anyone who has been diagnosed with DID or OSDD1 is referred to as a system.
@christythehedgehog169
@christythehedgehog169 Жыл бұрын
I am glad you uploaded this because it's very meaningful that you educate people on truma you definitely don't know what people are going through. It takes you knowing someone to understand if they really are or not.
@king_of_nothing1808
@king_of_nothing1808 Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting pfp-
@dragon_biscuits
@dragon_biscuits Жыл бұрын
As someone who has PTSD after being groomed online, I am so thankful you touched upon this subject! Not only because too little people understand the nuances of trauma and often mistake it as being interchangeable with PTSD, but also because I sometimes forget myself that trauma is different - mostly because most of my trauma is surrounding the subject of my PTSD, so the lines often become blurred. I also really appreciated your mention that PTSD can come from a variety of things, other than just the most commonly cited causes, because I've had people say to me and my family that I couldn't possibly have PTSD because "it happened online, so therefore they couldn't have actually hurt you"
@robinronin
@robinronin Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I’m autistic and have had C-PTSD since a young age (only recently diagnosed), and mental health treatment in my country is pretty shit, so I’m pretty much a dissociated zombie that will go into psychosis over things that other people would be able to brush off easily. I have been friends with people who went through similar objectively high stressors that were super traumatic for me, and they just thought it was pathetic that it affected me, because it didn’t affect them. This really helped me understand things better, because them looking down on me really made me feel as if I was just overreacting. It helps to hear that trauma/(C-)PTSD is not an objective response, but varies from person to person :)
@theanonymous.5940
@theanonymous.5940 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but how did you find a therapist/psychologist? How much did it cost?
@Xx_Oleander_xX
@Xx_Oleander_xX Жыл бұрын
@@theanonymous.5940 Largely depends on your location, health insurance ect. If you haven't done this already I recommend looking up your city followed by counselling/therapist. I think you can also contact your family doctor if you have one. I wish you luck anonymous!
@theanonymous.5940
@theanonymous.5940 Жыл бұрын
@@Xx_Oleander_xX thank you!
@FernBlackwood1995
@FernBlackwood1995 8 ай бұрын
I also have autism and C-PTSD. “Dissociated zombie going into psychosis over things other people wouldn’t” is extremely familiar territory to me as well.
@alyssamay9237
@alyssamay9237 Жыл бұрын
I've always felt like most people assume trauma has to be like "Hollywood veteran diving under a table during a fireworks show" or something. A lot of people don't believe my dad has PTSD from the military (admittedly something he doesn't bring up a lot) since he doesn't "act like it"
@LuvHaebom
@LuvHaebom Жыл бұрын
I’ve had so many people in my real life invalidate my CPTSD, which I’m diagnosed with, under the guise that “That’s a war veteran disorder”, when that’s ABSOLUTELY inaccurate. It’s horrific how media has portrayed PTSD to be one specific thing, when MANY things can cause PTSD. I KNOW people who have PTSD due to severe “drama” which caused VERY real trauma for them. I myself had my trauma added to by “drama” I was placed in for months.
@princeollie1022
@princeollie1022 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this too as someone who studied mental health as well ( special education degree) & who is very passionate about mental health too! This approach (the stress continuum) seem much more inclusive & I think that would be beneficial to everyone who needs help with their trauma to be helped for it instead of ignored just because they don't have PTSD. Also that character looks very promising :D Can't wait to hear about them ^^
@ravensmallbean4379
@ravensmallbean4379 Жыл бұрын
To answer Why the name change? I got two possibilities. 1) availability- because the studies can become available to the public, there is a chance the language will be changed to suit a majority than the minority. A baby step into a big,complicated topic basically. 2) literature- the change can be used as a repeat so the brain can remember the topic and title better. Basically it rhymes and makes it easier to be remember and look up if the person wants another look as a fresh up or to cite later. Yes, this was a tiny part in a bigger video but that itched at my brain and wanted to try and get a think train going.
@TuesdaysArt
@TuesdaysArt Жыл бұрын
Trauma vs. Drama sounds more catchy than Trauma vs. Adversity, even if the latter is technically more accurate and academic.
@ArgonApricot
@ArgonApricot Жыл бұрын
I had a traumatic experience in very late 2018. Though I only believe my symptoms were severe enough to meet DSM-5-level PTSD criteria for the first two months, they continued to interfere with my life for another year and a half. I can still get triggered now, but it happens much more rarely. But, I thought, nothing had physically happened to me. It would be insulting to consider my experience comparable to that of real victims and survivors. I had no right to make a fuss. Getting triggered couldn't be genuine, it had no right to be genuine when nothing had really happened. And yet my body would lock up painfully and my heart would race and my tongue would go dry and then I would cry for hours after a man passed me at a bus stop at night. Those first two months were made so much harder than they needed to be because every night I would get hysterically upset thinking that I had to be making myself upset on purpose. The guilt and paranoia I felt about "trying to pretend I had PTSD" made each symptom so much harder to manage or work through. It took, one year later on the trauma anniversary, finally experiencing a sensory flashback and dissociating so badly that I couldn't feel my face for hours for me to confess that I was having these problems to my therapist. Only then did the symptoms start going away. Situations can affect people in different ways. Traumatic symptoms can be caused by experiences you wouldn't necessarily expect, and even a relatively minor trauma is worthy of compassion and healing.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this, I think that is completely valid.
@sarahader8118
@sarahader8118 Жыл бұрын
Very educational on this subject. People, like me, needs to understand the difference between trauma and drama. And basically understand more on difference mental illness aside from PTSD and other things like that
@-nikki.
@-nikki. Жыл бұрын
i hate drama. it’s annoying because some boy in my primary(basically elementary)school, some boy created drama with ME in the center ‘for fun’. everyone was against me and he spread rumors about me, even destroying a gift from my aunt. i *loathe* him. now, i am friends with my former enemies, but that event will *never* leave my memories. one of one of my former enemies used to be my friend *before* the drama, and she absolutely stabbed me in the back. she called me annoying and a popular girl (who was friends with her at the time) said my fringe (bangs) looked like cheetos. i now wear a headscarf or wear my hair down because that time i had my hair in a bun. i am muslim, and i forgave them. to this day, i cannot believe that happened. -bakura
@phandalintemerity8377
@phandalintemerity8377 Жыл бұрын
My ex touched my butt, tried to fetishize me, and made me uncomfortable by kissing my head and the like. This happened a year and a half ago but about 6 months back I started processing what really happened and I broke down and started lashing out at said person (who I still talked to due to his manipulative tactics such as talking about suicide and depression) I'm not sure if that was a trauma response but I feel bad saying it was trauma at all because I didn't React in the moment.
@nise694
@nise694 Жыл бұрын
Trama works differently for everyone, sometimes it takes a while for someone to realize that what happened to them was a bad and or traumatic, it’s perfectly normal. Don’t feel bad for calling it trauma
@lavandergalaxy3669
@lavandergalaxy3669 Жыл бұрын
I hope your well now
@mariaarzeno9251
@mariaarzeno9251 Жыл бұрын
Jesus... I'm sorry... I hope he's out of your life now :(
@cherilynsarts8845
@cherilynsarts8845 Жыл бұрын
Hope you got away with that person. It's not your responsibility to take care of him because of his depression.
@yesouioo
@yesouioo Жыл бұрын
TW ABUSE AND BULLYING When facing a stressful situation, one can go into Fight or Flight. However, there is also Freeze, which is a reaction in itself. It’s normal to freeze and not react, sometimes you’re in pure shock and fear. Also, your mind could’ve been in survival mode until 6 months back, which would’ve kept you from processing the trauma until your mind felt safe/available again. By “available”, I mean that your mind actually had the time to react. For example, I was bullied for many years when I was younger. I was also suffering abuse at home and didn’t feel safe no matter where I was, but eventually I stopped reacting to things. I stopped crying, stopped feeling, just… stopped. Once I changed schools and managed to communicate to my family that what they did wasn’t ok, I ended up breaking down. At first, I thought I became weaker after what happened, but it turns out I finally had time to react and feel after years of feeling like I was in danger almost 24/7. Btw, I am someone who is diagnosed with PTSD, although I believe it was C-PTSD in specific.
@caleightilson8030
@caleightilson8030 Жыл бұрын
Moral if the story. You cannot know the feelings of another person or how thier experiences affect them. Also if you are only conducting research on the subject in order to "prove they arent traumatized so its ok the bash and criticize them" you need to re-evaluate your intentions. And finally if you are going to use research to back up your points in an argument you should at least read the entire article you're citing, and if you have, avoid only picking out the parts that support your point of view.
@NightFree7
@NightFree7 Жыл бұрын
I don't usually talk about this, but I'm pretty sure I have a traumatic experience from when I was in 6th grade. I was surrounded by a group of larger kids, and they were making fun of me for my emotional reactions towards things. Now, I can get anxiety from people going into my room or just generally my personal space, and in some cases when more than one person starts arguing with me at once, I get extremely aggressive. I'm glad people have been talking about trauma more because of the situation, that's one positive from all the drama ^^' educating people is important, and I'd say this has made me realize more about myself in the process
@mv9653
@mv9653 Жыл бұрын
This is easily the best criticism of Omnia’s video I’ve seen. (One of the few I thought was actually good, TBH.) In addition to all your in-depth explanations, I really appreciate how clear you are about specifying that the model you’re using is purely theoretical and that things might be different in practice. Too many responses to Omnia’s video were taking a very absolutist perspective, despite criticizing Omnia for supposedly doing the same thing. I actually think Omnia was trying to be theoretical rather than absolute with their use of “tends to be,” rather than “has to be,” but because their sources and interpretations of those sources were still relatively limited, it came off like they were just making unfounded generalizations. The truth is that, as anyone who has been insulted will tell you, words matter and every commentator has a responsibility to be clear in their explanations. This isn’t about “tone,” so much as it is about being able to identify what the actual issue with the source material is, what are issues based on personal individual interpretation of the source material, and the ability to recognize and communicate the difference. Again, I really appreciate how clear and specific you are in this video both about Omnia’s points, and in your breakdown of their source material. It’s super refreshing after so many videos that were just some version of, “my trauma didn’t perfectly fit Omnia’s subjective generalizations which I interpreted as absolute statements because I was traumatized, therefore Omnia bad.” (And this is coming from someone dealing with CPTSD who thought Omnia’s video was harmful.)
@dragoaicairis8013
@dragoaicairis8013 Жыл бұрын
My father grabbed me by my neck after finding my self harm and told me ,,that isn t mutilation.I will mutilate you" And my mom would classify that as drama
@the-postal-dude
@the-postal-dude Жыл бұрын
holy shit thank you for talking about this, i've barely seen anyone actually talking about this (i have way more issues with omnia, like the dollieguts and hopelesspeaches situation. they didn't even apologize for the dollieguts situation, they just swept it under the rug) my respect for you has shot up tenfold
@anerrorhasoccurred8727
@anerrorhasoccurred8727 Жыл бұрын
The main thing I remember about Omnia is how they would have _huge_ arguments with mildly critical, obscure 1 like comments 💀
@the-postal-dude
@the-postal-dude Жыл бұрын
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 i haven't seen that but. honestly that's so funny holy shit
@anerrorhasoccurred8727
@anerrorhasoccurred8727 Жыл бұрын
@@the-postal-dude you see it a lot in Cecil McFly’s video about the art community 😭💀 tbf Kai is equally ridiculous but still
@phiikichi
@phiikichi Жыл бұрын
Okay, other than the fact that this video is very well conceived and easy to understand for someone who knows little to nothing about trauma, can I just say that your art is gorgeous and acts as a constant reminder that I am a hopeless lesbian
@deannahart1553
@deannahart1553 Жыл бұрын
I did 4 years on a swim team during high school and 1 year after at a public park. It wasn't something I really liked. I liked 2 swim....like, normal swim. But my mom talked me into it....only she would never let me quit in the years 2 follow. The coach wasn't nice and was SUPER pushy. I never got along with any of the other girls because they have ZERO personal boundaries and I'm not down 2 hug someone I barely know While PRETTY MUCH naked. It was exercise, nothing more, but no one ever LET ME decide that for myself. I always had 2 be "a team player or leader" because I was the fasted in my lane, but not the others. By 4th year I grew 2 resent and loath practice the same way any HS kid hates homework. I had felt this way b4 in Band. I like jazz, but that didn't mean I wanted 2 play trumpet. Swim team was the same as Band, only worse. Then after graduating, my mom signed me up for a summer public pool thing....and I did that....SUPER early in the morning while the water was ice cold. In the 6-7 years after, I couldn't even ENJOY going 2 the pool like I always had b4. I couldn't bare being in the water splashing around for more than 15 mins. I just didn't want ANYTHING 2 do with pools [ANY POOL] even tho I had once loved it. It's been 10 years and I'm actually able 2 do a full 40-60 mins again, but I still have nightmares about it sometimes and it's something I never forgot.
@tsukishimasbrain9001
@tsukishimasbrain9001 Жыл бұрын
I could say that I have some trauma with abandonment mostly because my mom always was a perfectionist with and prohibited me to do anything that wasn't totally selfless and lady-like, I loved her and she loved me and then she left me with my aunt and grandma and every other relationship I had it has been exactly like that and thanks to that everytime I do something good I feel the need to do something wrong to not get abandoned, or maybe I give them everything but I steal something from them just to make sure they stay so.. I think I can say I have experienced something a little bit similar to trauma
@ThatOneLadyOverHere
@ThatOneLadyOverHere Жыл бұрын
I feel like drama is just the wrong word for that article. I didn't read it, but drama isn't a clinical word, it's a social experience and I feel like it can definitely overlap with trauma whether the drama be because of a trauma response or be the actual cause of trauma. But I think the word adversity is better. But drama is just overreacting to something to cause a social disrupt, it's dramatic, or it ties in with the other use of the word to describe theater and is acting. Is it trauma or drama sounds like a pointless question to me. But I'm not an expert.
@anerrorhasoccurred8727
@anerrorhasoccurred8727 Жыл бұрын
“Adversity” sounds _much_ better to me, personally. I wouldn’t feel comfortable describing my own or other people’s traumas with the word “drama” because it plays into the idea of overreacting and that’s…definitely not a compassionate way to look at it.
@ThatOneLadyOverHere
@ThatOneLadyOverHere Жыл бұрын
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 exactly! Drama is overreacting! Being dramatic is basically a synonym with overreacting. But you might be overreacting because of a traumatic experience you had in the past, so drama and trauma can totally overlap and really aren't something the be compared. They are totally different ways of measuring experience and are very unrelated. Plus drama has a negative connotation and is normally a negative experience for everyone involved.
@Latalie
@Latalie Жыл бұрын
This was so interesting! I love how you were able to explain this topic in an engaging and interesting way. I would love to see more educational videos like this from you in the future. You would make a great teacher 🥰💕
@peach8747
@peach8747 Жыл бұрын
I accidentally pressed the notifaction but woah i'm glad i did!
@GMisEpicYuh
@GMisEpicYuh Жыл бұрын
My notifs didn't work but recommendations came to my rescue!
@peach8747
@peach8747 Жыл бұрын
@@GMisEpicYuh love the recs
@the-postal-dude
@the-postal-dude Жыл бұрын
@@GMisEpicYuh you might be able to fix that in settings
@GMisEpicYuh
@GMisEpicYuh Жыл бұрын
@@the-postal-dude actually thas cuz I didn't turn em on but I fixed that :)
@alexin4k
@alexin4k Жыл бұрын
Aaa ive been waiting for u to make this video since ur trained w physiology and you would know a lot about this!!
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@kurapikakurta1997
@kurapikakurta1997 Жыл бұрын
All of this basically boils down to “people might experience/see trauma differently, and that’s okay” and that’s actually a good message!
@LuvHaebom
@LuvHaebom Жыл бұрын
I despise people who think drama and trauma are completely separate. What many would call “drama” added SEVERELY to the trauma I already had, and caused me to spiral for months to a severe degree. It may be due to me already having a CPTSD diagnosis so I have a lot of trauma already, but drama ABSOLUTELY adds to trauma, as usually it’s inherently traumatic.
@blankbenefit449
@blankbenefit449 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you explaining more scientific articles, and more videos about your mental health knowledge :)
@the_homun_system
@the_homun_system Жыл бұрын
honestly i can appreciate that this video isnt so much an opinion piece but more an "expert perspective" for lack of a better term. any youtuber can give their critical opinion of the entire deal hell even i could as a commenter but very few can give perspective of people who are seriously working with things such as this. even as someone who stays updated on new research its easier to read simpler articles that simply discuss the findings than the research paper itself lmao.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
thanks! I'm glad you feel that way about this video because thats what I want to give
@doriyangrey
@doriyangrey Жыл бұрын
I don’t often comment but I wanted to do two things really quick: 1. I am not old enough or have enough education to have any sway in this conversation but I am in therapy for my own trauma and illnesses and love to do as much research on my own as I can so I feel I can at least comment on this. The way you described trauma throughout this video is very believable and I feel the truest thing I’ve heard to how trauma affects people. I am not nearly the only person I know who has trauma but this is exactly why we shouldn’t compare trauma to see who’s is “worse”. Everyone responds to things differently and we should all learn to be more understanding and aware of this. 2. I wanted to at least try to help promote this in the algorithm, more people should see this.
@FernBlackwood1995
@FernBlackwood1995 8 ай бұрын
Keep doing your best. Best wishes for healing and happiness.
@MoriMinsi
@MoriMinsi Жыл бұрын
Dancing should be a fun but no one should feel pressured or judged by the way they dance as long as they're having fun. I try my best to encourage others to dance when they want without making them feel bad about how "weird" it looks and sometimes people who have had others say that their dancing looks weird have had trouble with other's judgment and lack of knowledge about how these things may affect others. That type of experience especially in front of a bunch of people can put emotional and physical stress on them then they'll develop a fear of being judged by other's based on things that should be fun and enjoyable.
@verushka7405
@verushka7405 Жыл бұрын
I knew something felt off to me about the article when they first brought it up in their original video, so them having misinterpreted it makes a load of sense.
@mastertofu
@mastertofu Жыл бұрын
I continue to hold the belief that one's response is the bigger factor in discerning trauma than the stressor itself. I have went through traditionally traumatising things (grooming) and walked out just fine and because of that I don't believe that it's part of my trauma. However I have gone through traditionally dramatic things (cyber bullying) but it completely changed me. I don't talk the same, think the same, act the same. It's something relatively small that everyone goes through nowadays and yet it shakes me up so much because of tiny details that were too personal to me. So I consider this part of my trauma, along with near-death experiences because it has the same effect regardless of its severity. I think it's dumb to draw harsh lines between trauma and drama if those lines are solely based on the type of stressor. Anything can be traumatic but not everything is trauma. If you really want to draw hard lines between the two, it is vital that you draw them based on the response to the event.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
I agree, I think people have different vulnerabilities so trying to categorize trauma based solely on the stressor itself is simply counterproductive and a waste of everyone's time
@cometisV2
@cometisV2 Жыл бұрын
god i love psychology its just so interesting how many things can affect the human brain and its so complex and i find it very interesting to see sometimes i wanna just look in someones brain and see what happened i wanna see the upbringing what brought them to their conclusions but thats very loosely related to the video
@skythedragon7897
@skythedragon7897 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I have a lot of trauma around people just not believing me. Like I would lie once and then they never believed a thing I said again. Of course that sounds like nothing bit it's lead me down a path of constantly trying to validate my claims with "hard evidence" even if its something simple. People who don't believe me no matter what I say send me into a complete panic and I will desperately try to prove that I'm indeed not lying. It's seems like nothing (drama) but I've literally spiraled into mental breakdowns over it (trauma)
@AnneliesDeroy
@AnneliesDeroy Жыл бұрын
I think you explained the article in an easy to understand way for people who get a bit confused by scholarly articles like this (myself included lol). The example you gave cleared up some of the fancy yet mind-twisting explanations used in the article. I wouldn't mind you made more video's analyzing articles on subjects similar to this one. You could hear your interest/enthusiasm in your voice and that made continuing listening even more pleasant! 💜
@IceQueen975
@IceQueen975 Жыл бұрын
Slightly off topic, but whomever that girl is that you drew, she is gooooorgeooooous
@ButtersTweekLuka
@ButtersTweekLuka Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting your input into this!! I think I’m gonna ask more questions about omnia’s video to my psychiatrist because it kinda confused on my perspective on my own trauma and if it’s wrong for me to classify as such. I really appreciate your effort to educate us, thank you a whole lot again! 🙏🙏
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
definitely bring it up with them and see what they think, I'm glad this video has been beneficial to you!
@chapteronefrog
@chapteronefrog Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you posted this, I couldn't stomach Omnia's entire video, even with other creators posting critique videos, so I'm glad someone is talking about the articles she quoted
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I definitely don't want to make more drama, I just want to increase people's health literacy
@Yukisan11
@Yukisan11 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the thorough break of the article Omnia used and how it actually goes against what they were saying and was written as a response the exact issue of trauma being defined in such a narrow and exclusionary fashion. I also appreciate how you corrected the idea of this being a heavily critiqued article by the scientific community. Researching scientific articles can seem really daunting and inaccessable to people who don't know much about how to look for or anazlyze these papers, so I'm really glad you took the innotiative to explain this to others. I can tell by the way you discuss these research papers (and know to check for references and meta-analyses, which is often overlooked by the average person) that you have a solid understanding of the academic field. As a psych graduate myself, I think it's important people who have experiencing working with, reading, and analyzing scientific papers work to make sure that they are being used correctly when people reference them. Far too many times have I seen someone site an article that--like Omnia--goes against their point but have no one speak out and correct it because they have no experience with critically analyzing these kinds of papers. Anyways, good work! You've definitely earned a subscription from me, and as a fellow nerd I would love to see more videos like this where you discuss the academic literature around specific subjects~
@charlidvds3296
@charlidvds3296 Жыл бұрын
Holy… I had allostatic overload, thank you I finally found the meaning and word behind me throwing up and loosing ability to my legs, thank you
@TableClothPersona
@TableClothPersona Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how you drew the full body pose, specifically the hand on the hip! it looks very natural and not stiff =)
@lordarthur2165
@lordarthur2165 Жыл бұрын
Like Omnia, I have a very average knowledge of this subject and I didn't know how complex it is, even though I had traumatic experiences and even physical symptoms because of all the stress I went through. But I didn't even think about it when I was watching their video, I think this would be mistake I would do too, so I am kind of glad all of this happened. Also I think we in academia have a problem with language, scientific articles can almost inaccessible to the average person that aren't a academic. I have been studying in university for three years and some articles are still difficult to real for me, mainly because I have ADHD. Thank you for this video, it's very insightful! (Sorry if the comment is confusing, English isn't my first language)
@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR
@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD? YOUR NAME IS CALLIMARA
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
AND IT'S NOT CALAMARI
@avtfol
@avtfol Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I have some type or level of trauma, I can barely remember my childhood, things that I should remember aren't remembered. I remember only a few things and whenever I try to remember there are a lot of unpleasant experiences. I barely remember my 6 years of highschool too. And I know who I feel defensive towards without knowing why.
@Dressup_Doll
@Dressup_Doll Жыл бұрын
I have very few memories from 2016 to 2020-2021, because of how my sister treated me. I’m not joking. I genuinely don’t remember what happened in those years. Well, 2020 was its own monster for reasons not related to COVID. The few memories I do have aren’t related to any of those things. But even though I don’t know what really happened then, I don’t really want to know. I’d rather not remember what she said. I just know she was not doing too well and took it out on me.
@rutabegagrrl9657
@rutabegagrrl9657 Жыл бұрын
I like the concept art for the cat aegis holder. She looks amazing! Also, congrats on being a nurse!
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 Жыл бұрын
From what you sumariced and explains here, I think I like the general view point of the article quiet a bit. I like my parents, but even they hit me with the ocetional "I don't understand what's wrong with your generation, people like me had it way worse " before, so I generaly dislike the notion of judging someones trauma/condiciona by what coused them. I think that's why I like the idea of judging it based on what reaction came from said causes. A sort of...focus mote on the result, not on the equation kind of way. I just finished my training to work in child care, and one thing we learned about was a childs resilience. Basically, as explained here in germany, a childs ability to bounce back from things that could be emotionaly or psychologicaly damaging for the child. The goal here by was not to look at what things count as damaging for the child, but at how the child reacts individually to things in his surounding so we can better find a way to help it and raise his natural resilience to deal with those things. I feel like this article had a similar kind of view, if that makes sens. (Sorry, I'm sometimes really terrible at explaining my thought process xD )
@ninin117
@ninin117 Жыл бұрын
i couldn't agree with the article more. from an outsider looking in, my experiences wouldn't amount up to be 'real' trauma, even though since that jumping off point of my mental health declining ive been diagnosed with depression, anxiety, adhd and bdd, ive been addicted to self harm for years, im still to this day very ill and whenever the topics from which my trauma derives from i feel all the color drain from me and i cant think or breathe or just function for that matter. but i guess its not trauma because its not this very specific set of circumstances? its just crazy and super invalidating
@marshmellok
@marshmellok Жыл бұрын
Holy cow this was WAY more in depth then I thought a video could go! Blown away by how good of a job you did here!
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
thank you! :D
@rattling.casket
@rattling.casket Жыл бұрын
I think its well written, yet inaccurate. For instance: the example of going homeless yet finding another roof to put over your head is actually my mothers experience. She had No Choice but to compartmentalize and function. She had no ability to break down or we would both be homeless, have offed ourselves, or something worse or in-between. I do not believe that in any way that manages to invalidate the traumatic experience that was for me but ESPECIALLY her. Having to stay strong and force yourself to cope and hope and create backup plans for someone else removes the option to break down. Like adrenaline altering a mothers strength for a time in return for soreness or agony.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
I think the article addresses that by introducing the self-regulation as a component to a person's stress response. I agree that not everyone going through your mother's circumstances would be traumatized, but it depends on their ability to self-regulate. In your mother's case, it sounds like she had incredible self-regulation and motivation to self-regulate because of her children, and as you've said, she has the factor of adrenaline benefitting her in the circumstance. However, other people in her position may suffer much worse consequences. It just depends on the person and their experiences, personality, resilience, and circumstances. :)
@ravengreenwold3258
@ravengreenwold3258 Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on the article on a scholarly level? As for the articles title I believe it was picked to attract more readers. Personally I think the stress continum model has a lot of validity in concept especially in regards to continuous stressors.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
it's hard to say because at this point it's only very conceptual, it hasn't really shown any implementation and how it would translate into clinical practice. it sounds good as a theory but I don't know how effective it would be as a working a practice framework as it has not run any tests on its real world use yet
@ariamelody5560
@ariamelody5560 Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting! I never really dive into this type of stuff, but I understood everything, so props to you for wording it so well!
@thearcticfoxes3124
@thearcticfoxes3124 Жыл бұрын
HOW DARE I BE 2 MONTHS LATE?!?! I didn't even know about the video. I have had Austim since I was like 9 months old/practically a newborn baby. I don't even remember when my symptoms started, but I've had Austim for the whole 14 years I've been alive. But great video! Edit: Im pretty sure my mom has ADHD. Again, great video.
@LeniPeni
@LeniPeni Жыл бұрын
great video! seriously, you explained everything great! keep it up!
@smiththeinspiringanimator7042
@smiththeinspiringanimator7042 Жыл бұрын
Awesome and cool! ^^
@SADshrimpforever
@SADshrimpforever Жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting a video like this, hey, I'm a fan, so I watch :P
@kat_eternity_family
@kat_eternity_family Жыл бұрын
I have trauma with art....😥 I used to draw and create whatever but now I can't cus I hear the enemy laughing at me every single damn time I pick up a pencil.
@mysryuza
@mysryuza Жыл бұрын
I was skeptical about their definition of trauma and when other people were bringing the video up, I speculated that what they did was potentially gaslighting in a sense of invalidating someone’s struggles and trauma, which led the person dealing with them to question their mental state. It made me wonder if their previous relationship had something to do with influencing their mindset about what trauma is. Do they not know that trauma can come from drama too?? Is it really just drama when it’s affecting someone to the point it negatively impacted their mindset and mental state and affecting them physically as well? Wait, was there a time that Omnia got pressed about people spreading lies or misinformation or cherry-picking info about them, because if so… **hissing inhale and idk what I would call that sound associated with reacting to yikes moments** that’s a big yikes they did.
@SprinkleGirl
@SprinkleGirl Жыл бұрын
Calli could you continue your series where you talk about artists you like?
@fluffybluesoul2262
@fluffybluesoul2262 Жыл бұрын
This is a very very well done video but when I was watching man did it feel like I was back in college English class lol
@neerajoshi5473
@neerajoshi5473 Жыл бұрын
Wildward part 2 please
@shadowcrystal4043
@shadowcrystal4043 Жыл бұрын
I never knew you were Australian. Nice to find out a favourite channel is an Australian like me.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
I'm actually not australian, i only went there for university :p
@TheMossFinder
@TheMossFinder Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the article is pretty good. It really meshes well with my experiences.
@secretsuperstars1153
@secretsuperstars1153 Жыл бұрын
WILDWARD part 2 please
@brianahawkins8124
@brianahawkins8124 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. :D
@ezeahrizcalupas6280
@ezeahrizcalupas6280 Жыл бұрын
Hey callimara I love your videos and l sub. 🙂
@kmmk5022
@kmmk5022 Жыл бұрын
Is it okay if you could do a rewrite and redesign on the character Disapro from Winx Club?
@animeandcartooonfan3416
@animeandcartooonfan3416 Жыл бұрын
Could ya maybe do resigns and some rewrites of characters from ‘Amphibia’ and ‘The Owl House’
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
sounds interesting, I do like amphibia but i haven't watched the owl house
@RoseyVamp
@RoseyVamp Жыл бұрын
As a fellow academic and someone who’s also recently received their BS (in Biochemistry) and is a research scientist currently (tho not in psychology) your video was extremely refreshing! I love seeing a fellow nerd and artist analyzing this type of content! 🥰🫶🏻
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🥰
@blueotter5954
@blueotter5954 Жыл бұрын
You're so cool ya nerd!
@paigeyssims_2004
@paigeyssims_2004 Жыл бұрын
anyone: *spreads misinformation on MH* Calli: "That's a paddling"
@rosealina1013
@rosealina1013 Жыл бұрын
I just want to share something that I feel should be heard. (Idk if this is trauma. I have not talked to anyone really about this a much less a professional) I went to public school years preschool to grade 5 (I was homeschooled after 2020) I went to school in Florida. In Florida our end of year test(s) is called the FSAs (Florida state tests) I never made it to the fifth grade FSAs (the only good thing to come of that pandemic) but years 3-4 I did. We had 2 hours for the tests. In grade 3 we did a reading/English test, and a math test, in grade 4 we also got a writing test. I am autistic tho I did not know it back then. My school would have people from the school broad come and “prepare us” for the tests throughout the month leading up to it. They would basically tell us that if we didn’t get a 100% on it our life’s would be over. We would be held back, never get to high school, have the worst job ever (if we were lucky), and would be a disappointment. I’m not even joking they literally told 9 year olds that our lives would be ruined if we even got one question wrong. As soon as I heard this I panicked. I was up all night every day for almost 2 weeks. That was the first time I ever had panic attacks. I was convinced I would literally die (my family tried their best to help me) I ended up making my self physically ill some days. For some context even though I was the youngest in my class and got all As and Bs and there was actually no way to hold me back unless my parents agreed to it (which they would never) I ended up running out of time to finish my reading test. I’m actually a pretty good reader I can read 15 thousand words in 15 minutes and I read Harry Potter and the cursed child in grade 5. But I was told to be reading a grade below my reading level because in failed the test. English had always been my favorite and best subject but I began to not like reading because of that one failed test. Those days are a blur. I honestly only remember the panic and before test candies my wonderful teachers would give out. I don’t think I could ever fully remember those days even just typing this difficult and I feel a panic attack threatening. Looking back I’m not upset at myself I still feel panic anytime I even think about the possibility of having to do that again. I feel something should be done about this. And to anyone out there who can relate I’m honestly sorry. Please know that you are not alone. I hope you never get the extreme anxiety I developed from it. I would suggest looking into homeschool and trying to figure out if you have some sort of disability (you get extra time if you do or at least you can in Florida). I would normally never suggest using a disability to get something but I only recently found out that I’m autistic and my brother has multiple learning disability’s and is also nerodivergent. Anyways I hope this helped someone or that you learned something from this.
@jennygholson
@jennygholson Жыл бұрын
I loved your video 💕
@Friendstoyourend
@Friendstoyourend Жыл бұрын
Since you mentioned it Would be cool if you made a video on your thoughts on Omnia's apology
@hyjinx1889
@hyjinx1889 Жыл бұрын
quick question: why did callimara change their youtube name? sorry if they already covered it in another video, I haven’t checked this channel in a while.
@callimara
@callimara Жыл бұрын
i didn't change it actually
@hyjinx1889
@hyjinx1889 Жыл бұрын
@@callimara ohh i must have misremembered sorry about that!
@Kagamine-Mirrat
@Kagamine-Mirrat Жыл бұрын
i’m waiting for wildword...
@ratatouilleisthebest740
@ratatouilleisthebest740 Жыл бұрын
Calimara I have a question, In the 12th my friend was with her aunt and they were walking and then my friend started to shake like in fear or something her aunt saw what happened and said she was shaking and fell (her aunt is young so she didn't know what to do and her sister was married in a young age and gave birth so this story is true I am not lying) Her aunt said she had a panic attack but My sister said it couldn't be bc my friend did faint and she was in the floor and the police came and also an ambulance, the doctor said it was a huge or big panic attack or something but tbh I still don't know if it really is a panic attack. If you have answers pls tell me bc I still have no clue. (Again this happened in the 12th and this is not a lie.
@hellomynameisphia2082
@hellomynameisphia2082 Жыл бұрын
Ok did anyone else notice the cat aegis? I can’t be the only one.
@teootge3436
@teootge3436 Жыл бұрын
holy shit yes!! I just noticed !!! thanks for pointing that out !!! :)
@renwarrenp5097
@renwarrenp5097 Жыл бұрын
First 10 seconds and I already love it 🤣🤣 exactly you don’t! Thank you!
@Darlingmoth
@Darlingmoth Жыл бұрын
Just a question but can we have fixing Nathalie sancour I love your content but we got good looking Gabriel so we should get Nathalie!
@violetprincessgreen8
@violetprincessgreen8 Жыл бұрын
I remember Omnia saying in their original video that a fight with your parents as "just drama." That honestly struck me a little too hard for my own good. Before I moved out, I had near weekly arguments and fights with my mom. None of them serious, all of them petty and every single one ended in me having a full-blown mental breakdown. My dad even joined in the fights and caused a few. My sister would never hear me out or would shrug them off as "just drama," ignore the very clear and very unhealthy reactions to each fight, my screaming, crying, running out of my home, huddling into a ball whilst hyperventilating, etc. She never budged or cared and actively made the problem worse. My brother and fiance were the only ones who could calm me down, but it was exhausting. If you looked at the situation as just "I get into fights with my family," then I would say it's just dramatic, but combined with the added context of the frequency of which they happen, how they escalate, my clear inability to defend myself during these fights without being put down, my extreme reactions that are clear TRAUMA responses, and my underlying and undiagnosed mental illnesses, it shows that these seemingly "dramatic," arguments cause deeper damage than any of the participants can even understand. Omnia lacks a critical understanding of context due to a lack of critical thinking skills. This is something I've observed from years of watching their content, this is not an isolated occurrance. They made this mistake with dollieguts/Dreamalgia, MadLibbs and Nezziemonster, Tobii, Hopeless Peaches, the videos discussed here and even their artwork. They get criticism for their mistakes, apologize, but turn around and keep making the same errors, showing they haven't learned anything. It's a pattern of behavior at this point and their inability to take accountability and learn is just annoying and I can't comprehend why this hasn't been addressed.
@samiam7203
@samiam7203 Жыл бұрын
I made it
@AndroidAxelServicebot
@AndroidAxelServicebot Жыл бұрын
sounds like they were scambling for something that backup what were saying without really considering how the citation her intital claim. I think Omnia started to realize how her video was digging herself a bigger hole.
@shoothead8106
@shoothead8106 Жыл бұрын
i love ur health
@GMisEpicYuh
@GMisEpicYuh Жыл бұрын
EARLY!!
@Killjoyous__
@Killjoyous__ Жыл бұрын
Yooooo SPIIICEEE??,
@becuaseimbored3481
@becuaseimbored3481 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wondering if a shitty thing that happened in your past is traumatic or if you're just trying to make it traumatic because calling it traumatic makes your suffering feel more valid.
@kirvee507
@kirvee507 Жыл бұрын
Hii
@yelena86
@yelena86 Жыл бұрын
👍✌️🙏❤️
@LaDaDaDeDaDaDa..
@LaDaDaDeDaDaDa.. Жыл бұрын
*my omnisexual a$! reading Omnia as Omni:* my sexuality has trauma?
@ramenistaa6938
@ramenistaa6938 Жыл бұрын
o:
@CryptidMilky
@CryptidMilky Жыл бұрын
Early!
@Dracula-m1styy
@Dracula-m1styy Жыл бұрын
I don’t have any repose when you bring up my trauma but does it still count then? Here’s what happened: I was really young playing with my cousin in the house,playing tag,and we were having fun but then I fell on the glass table and I started to cry I then I saw blood coming through my eye and what I was told was I went to the hospital and I had to get stitches and surgery everything is fine now and I don’t care when people talk about so does it count as trauma?
@Skibiditoilet2929
@Skibiditoilet2929 Жыл бұрын
early!
@secretsuperstars1153
@secretsuperstars1153 Жыл бұрын
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