The value of gold was the compressed gold pings we made across the way

We're rich!

Apparently not. People learning that it's worthless in monetary value still doesn't even stop them from mining it. So evidently that warm fuzzy feeling they're getting from it is already worth their time.

@@lein5300 and? It could be satisfiying and worth while too.

@@serthiag7373 Did... did you not read the comment you're responding to? To repeat what I said: the satisfaction *is* what makes it worthwhile already.

@@lein5300 did... did you not understand the commennt you're replying to? It could be satisfactory *and* be actually worth the time and be rewarding They arent mutually exclusive things

@@serthiag7373 ...So we're really gonna do this, huh? Very well. You keep saying it can be "satisfying" *and* "worth it". I keep saying since my very first post that it *is both* already (for those that know its monetary value yet keep mining it). Like... both at the same time. Two things in one thing. If I thought they were mutually exclusive, that wouldn't be possible in my mind, yet... it's what I've been saying since the beginning, so obviously I know they aren't mutually exclusive. This entire unnecessary argument is brought about because apparently you simply do not understand the concept that value (i.e. the basis of "worth") can be found by some in more ways than mere monetary gain, and whether something hits the threshold of "worth" is an internal individualistic decision, and those people have decided for themselves that it *is* "satisfying" *and is* "worth it" because in this particular situation satisfaction *IS what worth is dirived from.* But again, I already said this in much fewer words in my first post... What you mean is, you insist on doing something you'd already do regardless (because you just enjoy doing it that much) *and* you wish you got paid more to do it. lol But I mean... yeah... no shit. I too wish I found even more value in doing things I already found satisfaction in doing. lol At the end of the day ALL of "worth" in this video game boils down to "satisfaction" no matter how you slice it. There's nothing you do in DRG that translates to any other kind of "worth" (e.g. food on your plate irl).

reminds of that one time wjen i was new to engineer, i was the only engineer and i felt so goddamn useful when i used my platforms for the higher up platforms, its natural for most enhineers but i was new and had somehwat low self esteem, i really needed that.

And when you have gold pots tis very pogger.

Don't feel sad about it after all we are dwarfs Rocky Stone every dwarf love a little bit of gold

heck I ignore everything. The only things I mine are nitra and morkite. I have millions of gold and a bunch of other minerals sitting in my bank

Mining 2 Crasseus corpses was what convinced me that mining Gold generally isn't worth it. But it is very fun if it's your first time. It's a challenge, and it's fascinating to see how much gold you obtain from it. Especially if you have pots of luck.

Or you can run ahead carefully and clear the next area

im coping basically because i like mining gold but i also like not wasting my time. mining gold should be worth the time is all im saying

WE'RE RICH

WE'RE RICH

I actually really like that idea. It should be like the compressed gold chunks, rare to find. And even make it where its the gold rush mutator already put onto the gold and pots of gold drink already put onto the gold. This would make find golding at these rare times infinitely better as well

I feel like they would have to add other stuff bc the caves are mostly filled with gold and nitra and if you take one of those away the caves would fell a lot more empty

you a word

yeah having the scout stay behind to mine the gold since he can easily catch up while the rest of the team goes ahead to explore works great in a coordinated environment with voice chat, and thats what i usually do in that situation

​@boinqity4621 yeah when I play scout I tell em to push the objective I'll handle all the mining lol

@@goreobsessed2308 When you play scout do you also get the point of having 60 total mineral capacity as well to be able to not have to deposit as often?

@@razortheonethelight7303 I don't know the number off the top of my head but yeah i take the capacity upgrades

IQ 70: "mine gold, big number go up" IQ 100: "nooo mining gold is a waste of time, just sell minerals" IQ 150: "We are sent to this wretched planet to acquire its vast riches, so leave no cave unexplored and no vein untouched! Rock and Stone dwarfs!"

@@p_serdiuk Engaging in busywork is a mark of high IQ?

I would honestly say that most of the high level players I see in my lobbies ignore gold unless it's very convenient to get-and even then, it might get passed over.

My average play session is me joining other players' lobbies in Haz 4/5 and I very rarely notice players above rank 200 mining any but the most accessible gold veins (and often just throwing a single power attack at them while running past). I usually pursue gold because the team is moving slowly, and rarely find the team is moving slowly because they're pursuing gold.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I don't think I even cared about credits after like level 75ish. Currently 260-ish. Haven't had a credit issue outside of wanting early game cosmetics and the initial unlock progression. Gold scratches that mining itch as you're running around, and I think that's all it's meant to be. Haz 4-5+ does encourage just getting necessities though. Very rarely do you get a window to go out of your way to collect it. It would be nice for it to have value at higher level play, but that's someone else's job to think about lol.

as far as i recall, not mining gold is slightly above mining gold when it comes ti time efficiency, but one thing people often overlook ALOT, is that the average joe, or even higher level players that dont play as much anymore like me do not play 50 missions per day, at a height i think its more like 3-4, so if you mine gold on those missions i'll go out on a limb and say that it doe not matter in the slightest. the time you gained from not mining that gold will never be used, because you're not doing 5 hour grind sessions

@@pharaohthutmosis7803 Gold basically is that small extra cash a Casual can get as they run the few Digs they can in their free time after work.....

Your end of mission number gets bigger, but your overall credits grow slower. Honestly, the time spend mining a Crassus crater with pots of gold is worth the insane credit payout at the end, but otherwise the second number is what I care about.

Play how you want. This video isn’t to make anyone feel bad for playing a certain way. I know plenty of people that accept the truth of the matter and still mine gold. As long as you know the facts I’ve done my job, if you live and die by efficiency is 100% subjective.

Potion brewing update when?

Devs have said they don't want to add in more uses so people don't feel like it's a waste to use them on silly cosmetic beers.

@@Bookslayer10 I guess thats one way to think about it. They could unlock further uses of the items once a player crafts all the beers. Or at least maybe you could see the crafting mats for phazyonite after crafting all the beers. idk Some sort of use would be nice.

I dont think thats how it works, you have to mine the gold directly or it doesnt count

That's what the first bit of the equation with the '(G * 2)' is for. If you entered in 2.68 instead of 1.68 for H, you wouldn't need that part.

Oh right, because it factors out to 2G * (1 + H), which is there the 1 went. Got it

No, you misunderstand the point of selling crafting minerals. By skipping gold and selling surplus crafting minerals when you need the cash, you save enough time to do more missions and get even more valuables. Trying to mine gold to make up the credits costs you more minerals than selling them, because it eats into mineral harvesting time.

@@Bookslayer10 It's not a cut and dry as that though. There's always downtime in a mission that you can use to mine easily avaialble gold. Should you spend 5 minutes digging to a vein on the roof, no. However, making these universal statements like "its never worth mining gold" aren't true either. Plus, crafting minerals have wild variation in spawn rates on missions whereas gold is fairly constant. The real answer is: mine gold when you have time and always prioritize crafting minerals. That's true for every stage of the game no matter how many promotions you have.

@@PRC533 It is very rare to be in a situation where there is no way to further the objective. All classes can do anything, so really you only should be waiting on teammates and timers. Both of those can be reduced with proper strategy - if you can mine gold during the timer, you could have started it sooner. Simply having time where you could mine gold is a bad strategy for making credits, so by extension mining gold is still a waste of your time in most cases.

@@Bookslayer10 Nobody plays the game this way. Of course you could optimize your play strictly for making gold but that's not playing DRG, that's doing something else entirely.

@@PRC533 Who are you to say what other people can and can't do? Maybe you need to screech at optimizing players that they aren't playing the game right, but normal people realize that there are many different ways to have fun in DRG. I don't mind if you mine gold by yourself in a haz 2 lobby, or mess around with meme builds, or anything else. I don't go along and yell at you that fat boy isn't an ammo efficient OC and you should be burned at the stake then kicked for using it. I'm happy playing with other people on haz 5 trying to improve and strategies, as long as nobody comes along and calls me an elf for not scraping off every last pixel of gold off the cave walls. Skipping gold isn't even that extreme, it's the best way to get credits, crafting minerals, xp, overclocks, skins, and generally all the things the game has to offer as rewards. Calling gold not worth the time to mine doesn't mean that everyone who mines it is wrong; there can be other motives to personally justify mining it, which are completely okay. Now kindly shut up and stop saying people who play the game differently than you aren't playing the game right.

You cant just remove the trade machine

I don't get it; are you saying you don't want XP? If so, that's not a problem: just stop promoting. The very first promotion (per character) is the only one that has actual functional value.

@@lein5300 impossible, my obsessive need for having particular orders in games (and yes real ocd not just haha I like things to be orderly) doesn’t allow me to stop promoting (or even play a character if they’re level 25)

@@slingshotwaffles I honestly cannot tell if you're trolling me. lol So... basically you insist on promoting whenever the opportunity arises, but you want to take the slowest path to promotions so that the opportunity arises as seldom as possible? Do I have that right?

@@lein5300 I mean theoretically yes. In practice I don’t care if it comes quickly, I just play the game for fun

@@slingshotwaffles Gotcha. Yeah, I don't think there's much of a way to do that. Anything that multiplies a bonus for minerals does so for XP too since XP is directly tied to how many minerals you got (among other things). Best I can say is just learn to love the gameplay/promotion loop if "not promoting" isn't an option. haha That's pretty much how I play anyway though.

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