the same thing has happened to other games I play, I really think the live service model isn't the best for a lot of games even if it's what's best for the company's revenue. I miss big numbered sequels every few years instead of getting drip-fed tiny changes over weeks or months.

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx I totally agree, This idea of constantly tweaking a piece of art like this really shows itself to be kind of absurd when you consider that it would never fly in any other medium like film and books or whatever. Imagine if you loaded up a fav film one day only to find some scenes were tweaked for no reason with little connection to the original intent. Hell, that *happened* with star wars and people are still mad about it over 2 decades later. Art should be made with intention and with a clear vision in mind I feel, and having time with that media in an unchanging form also creates a strong feeling of connection with it. One of the first games I'd ever played in my life was Zelda:oot, that game very deeply effected and shaped both me and my brother. I still have our old n64 and I've been playing it again lately, and there simply is not a word I'm aware of that does the experience justice. "nostalgia" isn't good enough, it's a deeper and more profound feeling than that. it's like tracing the steps of the development of your own soul. Messing with media at it's source always lessens it's artistry, and it risks damaging the incredibly powerful human connections we can develop with media that makes it worthwhile to engage with in the first place.

​@@xXx_Regulus_xXxthe best example of a game who mastered the updating system is terraria. And it got stuck in 1.2 for a hell lot of time 😂

@@xXx_Regulus_xXxThe big issue is update regularity… When I started playing in early beta (1.2-1.4 can’t remember) updates and snapshots were coming out pretty frequently. After Microsoft bought Mojang the content drops and constant snapshots became few and far between. Those old players lost interest and now it’s been years for some players and the game just doesn’t feel the same anymore. It went from a survival building game to an RPG Lite Survival game. Minecraft didn’t lose it’s identity, Microsoft killed it.

(This got longer than I expected it to sorry in advance I ramble a lot.) I play modded 1.7.10 for a few reasons. When I first got minecraft it was well past that point but I wanted to play mods. And one mod I specifically wanted to play was the spider queen mod. And at the time that was the latest version it was available for. So that's the version I stuck with. And it was great. I had no problems with this version. And it was clearly still popular given the amount of downloads for various mods FOR that version. It had everything I wanted the game to have. And anything else I could just add. But I never left it. And as updates kept rolling out I was like. Dang. Wish I was experiencing that. Most of all the aquatic update if for no other reason than the boats being better. I cannot find a mod that fixes boats for 1.7.10 Believe me I have tried. But who knows maybe I just haven't found one yet. And the caves and cliffs update. I really wanna explore the new generation. One day I tried to update to the latest but it was SO laggy I couldn't. And optifine no longer worked with forge so I was kinda stuck. I didn't know what to do. Plus I didn't wanna have to try to find versions of all the mods I love using for the later versions of minecraft so I just went back to 1.7.10 I still haven't left it. Yeah i'm aware that there's other things that can be done to help with the lag now but a new problem arose. Minecraft's later updates ... don't feel like minecraft anymore. I remember being so dissapointed when the villagers got that job update. And even after that it got worse as players began optimizing villagers. Sorting them into lil work boxes and trading in specific manners to get the items they wanted. And getting diamonds. Once a monumental accomplishment is now considered little more than a mild novelty. If you don't have full diamond gear at the end of day 1 outside of a challenge run. You're just not performing well in the game ... I don't care about all that though. I just want to enjoy the game. And despite missing out on a lot of things I know I WOULD enjoy of later versions especially some of the crazy mods that have been made ... I think i'm content where I am in minecraft. I have my lil world with the features I want ... and i'm happy. (Also just saying more people should play on amplified worlds it's so much fun!)

Play with mods, simple

Try to isolate the problems and find the version that's the best of both worlds. For me my ultimate version is 1.8, it has enough block variety to be interesting, but not enough to overwhelm, while having the old combat and overall nostalgia factor. I think a good metric for determining your best version is looking at how many slabs and stairs there are, in the current version there are probably over 40, but in 1.8 there is only like 15. Also, try to think what you like building with the most and what you can do without. Limitation breeds creativity. Most important of all, play on a few different versions and see which one works best for you. Hope this'll help

1.8 was goated, the phase which i played the most​@@kaet8333

ive had this issue too. these last few months ive been playing the better than adventure mod almost exclusively. its a mod that builds off beta 1.7.3. it reminds me of the early console versions. its like a polished version of b1.7.3 if they kept building off it instead of releasing the adventure update. its fixed some of this issue for me but there are still features i miss sometimes

​@@kaet8333 I have 1.12 as the version I play the most in, but I love the cave update too much to not take a look at it every once in a while. Maybe I should make a mod that "downgrades" the game

It's funny because the progression is very bland

​@@harold6953 the core progression has been the same since 2011. i like the new content, but it feels like a partial distraction from the fact that the early/middle game has more or less remained same. it's just less and less magical to me each time i start a new world in a new version and realize i spent the past few hours punching trees and strip mining. the only time i touch survival nowadays is if it's modded beyond recognition

@@IWantACopyrighstrikeplay beta 1.7. Trust me you’ll love it.

There is no problem in having progression in minecraft, as long as they keep the sandbox system. I prefer this a lot more than building, actually. Exploration and progression 👌🏻

thats probably it yeah

This. It’s not always about something negative that a game lost its magic, sometimes you just had your fill and good enough memories. There is only a few people that can play the same game for years lol, no matter how many good updates it has.

@@langletprolet8378 Right? I have heard it compared to going to Disney land day after day, week after week, month after month. Even Disney Land, flippin' DISNEY LAND, will "lose it's magic". Eventually you've just gotten your fill, and its time to do some other fun thing.

Play again after 5 years

@@IAm-zo1bo But don't forget to login at least once every 2 years lol

So you are saying there are so many ideas that have been made that now, you can not make something original?

Caves and cliffs (in particular the world generation changes) is one of my favorite updates haha and arguably brought me back to more regularly playing the game~!

I agree, I believe the modern way things are being updated shows mojang being scared to take the risks of adding features that interact with the core mechanics of the game. they would rather make their own new dungeon and have it's mechanics function in the pocket of that dungeon rather than have an effect on how the player uses or perceives a core gameplay mechanic. it's why the nether update was considered so good, the new material added a new armor set, new blocks, new redstone interactions, new combat interaction, and new exploration options. mojang made the mechanics interact with the core foundation of the game and that lead to a resurgence of interest. do this in smaller easier to develop chunks and then you have a good updating system going.

Yeah... I wanted to be like a Sniffer vaquero when I heard about its mechanics and I was imagining this whole economy based on Sniffer vaqueros who bring their Sniffers on trails and let them sniff things out which they collect and sell and give to other players but then the stuff they sniffed out wasn't really great... Like just a few plants and nothing else... I am not too serious about this but my dreams were kinda shattered haha

Aren't all these updates recents?

i love caves and cliffs but i do think that they should have delayed the update as a whole and added everything all at once.

Honestly, the only bones it really NEEDS to touch is the godawful anvil mechanics :V Fix that and suddenly most of the fucked "pressure" for Ultramaxed armor all at once is gone. You'd still probably only bother with Diamond+, but at the same time there's no concern over "wasting" armor or enchants by putting Prot I or III on it instead of always using the max level. The Enchanting Table would be (more) useful again...

@@higueraft571 i completely agree. I just wanna build shit, but I'm still pretty bad because I just have to waste so much time mining. I could play in creative, but that's not fun for me, so I don't play creative

I agree. All of the new updates are so random and overwhelming, especially the new world generation.

Honestly, I wish enchantment books were overhauled and would become dungeon rewards that doesn't use xp and are permanent. All enchantment books would be stage 1, merging the same books creates the next level. This will solve the scarcity/grinding issue with Minecraft, maybe bump up dungeon spawn rates.

i like the implication theyre like stuffed animals

i prefer modded minecraft and mainly play on 1.7.10 or 1.12.2 bc of these reasons. that i can make a tech or magic modpack, maybe combine both or play on a server with a modpack.

@@somerandomdude712 Yep. If youve ever seen the yogscast's original modded smp you'd totally see what I mean too. Theres many different KZfaqrs and their playthroughs are all insanely distinct even though they're playing the same game. Makes it all the more interesting when their pov's clash.

at one point on a modded server i was on, i was the resident dragon. like an actual dragon. i could fly freely, breathe fire, swim in lava, and my claws could be used as pickaxes - at the cost of the fact that as a lava dragon, touching water hurt me, i was significantly larger than my 2x1 block tall/wide servermates (i'm pretty sure i was 3x2), and i could only eat specific kinds of foods i had a whole different playstyle from everybody else, and as a result i wanted/needed different things. things that my servermates didnt want as much. i'd trade them food for coal, since i ate coal and they had an excess of it. i didnt need vegetables or meat because i couldnt eat it. my goals changed into making a castle for me to live in with a hoard of gold to sleep on, as well as having a lava cave to live in as a habitat. it was really fun to just kind of rp as a dragon, i got so much entertainment out of it, and it honestly felt more comfortable and unique

@@kigut7443Awesome story. I basically roleplayed as the mad scientist and I had a secret satellite over our base in space (galacticraft). My role on the team was managing the reactor so our base is supplied with power. (we used power for storage and faster smelters/machines). Others would be doing stuff like magic and exploration

@@kice1102 Oh it's not Roleplay, it's straight up the Dragon Survival mod for reference. It's pretty sick ngl

I've always wondered why they didn't include stuff like that for PC, it would be a good option for new players that could be turned on or off. I used to play the xbox tutorial world a lot, trying to find all of the little secrets and easter eggs around the world - it was just as fun as playing on a normal world at times!

this would be such a good addition to the game and i think other games should also follow suit like terraria. cause bringing new players into these sandbox games can be quite dauting for them especially when a lot of newer players may also be new to gaming as a whole and don't know the common controls that most games use like WASD for movement.

Finding stampy's house was so sick playing it years ago with my brother!

Thank you so much! I genuinely really love hearing about all of the different fond memories and experiences people have had with the game:)

Minecraft is a super solid game imo, I really enjoy the current version of the game! My main goal with this video was to try and highlight how the game has evolved over time and lost the simplistic factor that many people loved but gained so many new features that others adore, though I think a couple of people might have assumed that I dislike this new version (that seems to be a trend with these types of videos). Like you, I also really do love to hear both sides of the argument, because even though I think I personally prefer the older and more simplistic version of the game, I very much also enjoy the current version with all it has to offer!

It's not contradictory. People just want meaningful updates, instead of extremely obscure and cluttering features like Azalea trees and Sniffers.

your feelings are not rational

​@@T1nk I would love an official feed the beast version of minecraft as a standalone while OG minecraft stays simple and accessible. But those are big brain plays that big corporations like Microsoft don't make

@@Fire_Axus This is a strange new bot comment, I've been seeing this around lately, like bruh what is that even supposed to mean

it's te reason why stampy lost interest in minecraft

@@blauwbeer556 yeah... i miss his videos the minecraft ones at least

Yeah Mojang/microsoft really shot themselves in the foot. When they took over they declared they’d make Minecraft a “100 year game” and decided to release more frequent updates to garner attention. Although people quickly became fed up with the rapid lackluster updates so they were forced to artificially increase the amount of time per update so people would stop complaining. Now since they’ve followed the model of every other multiplayer-oriented game that will most certainly run out of steam and stop existing in the next 10-20 years I fear Minecraft will also head in that direction. The frequency of updates is more of a curse than a blessing and even now that they’ve become less frequent they are all about how much content they can wow you with. I wish our updates were more like “rotten flesh has been added to the game and replaced feathers as a zombie drop” or “added new decorative stone variants” or “removed Herobrine” they haven’t taken him out of the game in years

@@JerryFilms Am i going insane? i feel like i have seen this exact comment before a year or two ago, same words and everything.

@@blauwbeer556 Not sure, I've shared similar sentiments on videos like this in the past and I know a few people hold this specific viewpoint

Thank you!! Honestly I keep going back and playing on my b1.7.3 world even after I got the footage I needed, it’s such a nice experience imo and I love how simple it feels! Thank you for being a part of the video! :)

your feelings are not rational

@@Fire_Axus speak for yourself

I’m really glad you enjoyed! While making this video I got that same feeling, which made this one feel particularly personal.

still thinking about this, thanks for making it.

I think I'm with you on 1.8

I made a 1.8.8 world recently. It’s the first world I’ve fully committed too! I think I’m gonna beat it, and go even further back to something like 1.4 or 1.7 for the lighting.

How do I play different versions of Minecraft I'm kinda new to playing it on PC but I miss the old days of it on the Xbox 360

@@thehonorguard8986 in the mc launchers installations tab you can create new installations with different versions

@@thehonorguard8986 Go into Launcher or use a Launcher like Prism. In Vanilla Launcher: Go to Installations > New Installation at the top > Version In an older version of the Launcher, you had to tick to enable the Indev/Infdev/Alpha/Beta/etc versions + Snapshots i believe, but it seems they're listed by default now? Though do note some versions (such as all Indev and quite a few infdev/alpha versions) you'll need to download them outside the launcher. No idea why they arent included still, but some versions (such as in-20100223, the final Indev build) you'll need to go grab them. In Prism: Add Instance > Find Version in "Custom" tab (you'll need to tick "Snapshots", "Old Snapshots", "Betas", "Alphas", or "Experiments", you can also untick "Releases" too) > You're done (or tick a mod loader if you're doing a modded instance and such) Similar note as above for Vanilla, you wont have access to the missing versions, however you dont have to do too much work to fix it. Simply download the .jar you want (i'm using the indev jar for reference here), create a fresh instance (i used inf-20100518 which IS available), go into Edit for the Instance, and select "Replace Minecraft.jar". You should now have the inf-2010 jar listed, plus the in-2010 jar as "(custom)".

I watched these two guys with a fairly uneventful and relaxed play through of the game, as mentioned, before moving on to SOI as well! I think shadow of israphel was a big factor in me becoming obsessed with the game back then.

​@@T1nkNot to mention modpacks, I remember the dinosaur one where you could get a raptor pet.

Thank you so much! And thank you for being a part of the video

Honestly, the biggest dealbreaker nowadays is the shitty (largely) useless boats and lack of swimming, for me :V

Haha, I used to do that exact same thing all the time! Still felt pretty cool

I did the same thing when I was younger lmao I used to think I was godly after giving myself full diamond armour and spawning 2 million villagers

Damn! That intro is basically the same for me. 3 years old in 87/88 or so. I only started playing like 9 months ago? Because my 4 year old is all about it. 😂 So although I never played a “simpler minecraft”, I can see an appeal of it. There’s just to much shit to do. We’ve tried following guides watching videos etc… we only managed to find the ender dragon by dumb lucking across a fortress while mining. 😂. Even than it’s like apparently we need ALL this stuff to fight the dragon… which is more spent spent collecting it’s just exhausting 😂😂

Thank you!! I used to play on console quite a bit back in the day, but that was a long while ago back when the game was still very simplistic. From what I've seen, the Xbox version of the game was so amazing for it's multiplayer and so many people have great memories like this!

@@T1nk You're not wrong, it used to be super basic. And for years, I didn't know there were updates! So I played on TU12 (the base disc version) for years 😂. Though I have played a lot of multiplayer over the years, and I wish I could do it more still.

You’re one of the first people I think of nowadays when it comes to mods and data packs for minecraft! I remember playing on the xbox edition after school too, and all of those old, nostalgic tutorial worlds lol

One of many ;-;

Thanks so much!

You can still pay Minecraft how you want to play it which is awesome. Sometimes things like villager raids are annoying but apart from that you can still do what you want. I do miss when 4J Studios did the console edition as that was so well optimised on Console. 4J always went the extra mile and the tutorial worlds were really cool

Minecraft is such a solid game honestly one of the only ones I still like playing with friends

@@brandonlee7382 >Sometimes things like villager raids are annoying Well 1.21 is apparently completely solving this now it seems...

Thank you, that was my goal :) - I love both new and old Minecraft very much, and they both feel like different games to me that bring me different types of joy!

Haha thank you! I’m just glad people are enjoying it honestly! :))

Thank you so much! And thanks for being a part of it! :))

Thank you so much!!:D

I agree with the need to texture and missing stair things. Another thing that limits me all the time is the "favourite color syndrome" Minecraft has. There are tons of brown, grey, pink and cyan blocks. But if you want green or dark blue blocks you are pretty much out of luck. And the purplish blocks also have a hard time being compatible with each other. There is no good texture partner for purpur blocks.

No blocks were ever removed,so no, it is objectively better and if isn't it's just psychological

Think that's a you issue broski lol but every block does need a stair and fence variation for crying out loud

@@caviestcaveman8691 telling us you never built

@___Somebody___ uhh there are many blocks that don't have stairs tf are you on about

Thank you!!:)

Thanks so much!!

Thank you so much for such a nice comment, this put a smile on my face :)

These were my exact thoughts when I recently played through it again too!

I play Beta 1.7.3 with the Better Than Adventure! mod and I've been having so much fun I have no interest in going back to modern Minecraft.

Did you know that the latest version of MC contains the entire beta of MC?

@@codyt8541 It doesnt. It contains a bunch of similar elements, but it's not the same game. Food, for example, is RADICALLY different, and Sprinting does not exist.

Thank you so much! :))

That’s quite an interesting idea. A lot of people have mentioned that there are some updates they really like but others they don’t enjoy, so it would probably be pretty cool to have more customisation options that allow for you to turn some things off. I personally don’t enjoy the cave/underground update much (that might be controversial, just isn’t my cup of tea) but love things like the cherry blossom biomes etc, so I’d definitely try out a feature like this if I could! Otherwise I just have an old version world and a current version world that I like playing on :)

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it:)

Real

Thank you! I’m the same, I’ll have a current version world (usually in multiplayer with friends) while also having a single player 1.7.3 world where I can enjoy the older vibe:)

@@T1nk No problem! Do you also like the older sounds, or just put something on in the background? I personally love the old sounds with headphones (although it's kind of a necessity because my computer is louder than four PS4s combined lol).

@@channel-your-flannel Usually when gaming these days I'll have something playing in the background like a video essay etc - but I do have a nostalgic fondness for the older sounds of the game!

Woah thank you so much! First ever Super Thanks! - Yeah the majority of the comments have been really interesting to look through, a lot of awesome insights into the game and personal experiences. One thing we can all agree on at least is that this game is amazing, regardless of what version you like best!

Honestly, a HUGE portion of the game's issues originate between b1.8 and 1.4.2 When Enchanting and Anvils were added, also the Food Changes too for some.

Yes, it is one of my good friends:)

@@T1nk seeing fellow enbies makes me happy

Thank you!

Thank you!!

>People now say 1.8 was "controversial", but I'm not sure if this was the case. I guess I wouldn't know because I didn't hang out on the forums or anything. Probably primarily because of Enchanting, the End, and Food/Sprinting. Enchanting is fairly rough, to the point even TODAY it's causing issues, The End primarily because it kind of gives... an END to the game, in a sense. And Food/Sprinting because it tended to make the game more tedious and trivialized a huge chunk of the challenge that did exist :V

>especially when it comes to understanding the best and worst parts of each version. I can already point out something to save you a bit of the trouble... One of THE worst additions in terms of how it was added: The Anvil, in 1.4.2. It serves as a way to repair items so they last longer and combine enchantments (which were previously absurdly RNG and impossible to get "maxed" normally), sounds great right? WRONG. It all boils down to a teeny tiny small mechanic that's hidden to the player, which completely torpedoes this block's functionality nearly completely: Anvil Uses. This single mechanic ruins Anvils utterly. Every time you combine an enchanted book, or add a book to an item, or repair the item, it increases in cost, and it can transfer over to similar items (requiring you to carefully plan out and combine books in a set way to reduce this as much as possible so you CAN cram those enchants on something at once, if you combine a book which has been anvil'd 4 times, with a book that'd been done 1 times, no matter how you arrange it, the total uses are now 5). Instead of repairing your Diamonds Chestplate with Diamonds, you want to use Mending and an XP farm. Because the Anvil Repairs are a Trap (if not utterly impossible because you enchanted it already and cant do anything else to it). This promptly leads into the balance issue Mending has, and how unfun it is for some to get. It's not an optional QoL, it's *mandatory* if you want to keep your gear, because you cant repair it otherwise.

>How come a spawner felt like the biggest find of your world and now is something you don´t even care about? Admittedly, this isnt an issue with changes, it's an issue with knowledge. You COULD build a spawner farm, but they're typically pretty hard to find, and you could just build a normal mob farm instead, which has a wider range of drops than a spawner farm does. >The enchantments ...unfortunately do suck ass in how they were added, primarily the Anvil. You're encouraged to Minmax because doing otherwise wastes the armor/tool. You're encouraged to get Mending, because repairs are a trap and any minmaxed item you likely cant even repair to begin with, because you've used all your available Anvil Uses. And if it wasnt minmaxed? It's now impossible to upgrade it. Also Frost Walker should work on Horse Armor, horses are suddenly fixed. >the elytra are honestly fine. >so rare you would need hours to find them. ...or find a seed where they spawn, so you can actually FIND them. Hyper-rare and tedious isnt really fun, same for "every 5 blocks".

I was one of those kids/preteens at the time! And now that I'm grown I'm seeing kids, who are half as old as the game is, wearing Minecraft merch - It's crazy to see but pretty damn cool at the same time:)

Thank you!!