One Motion is Better for Shooting 3s (analytics)

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I was generous here, just in case you thought I would skew the results on purpose. These are clear trends that continue to grow and point towards a future full of one motion, early release timing, low-to-mid set point guards and wings. I look forward to the day where my purpose here will be over and everyone plays basketball with perfect shooting technique. Unfortunately that day has not arrived yet.
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@ScotShotBasketball
@ScotShotBasketball 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, okay, so this video doesn't amount to a mathematical "proof." It's more of an observation of a statistical trend. The point still stands though - this is the future of shooting technique.
@stuhuff1383
@stuhuff1383 5 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks for taking the time. I contend your conclusions are likely correct but you proved popularity of styles more than performance of styles. Might I suggest you look at shooters 51-100 and maybe 101-150 or look at them in groups of 25-30, whatever would be statistically significant. For instance, if about 80% of 3-pt shooters 51-100 and 101-150 use early release shooting, then that would not suggest any correlation between release and performance. If 90% of shooters 51-100 use early release, it would actually add proof to the exact opposite of your conclusion and vice versa. A clear trend across 3-4 groups adds even more proof. Good luck!
@IamMichaelFu
@IamMichaelFu 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! For future reference, you can say that your data collection analysis is more akin to a retrospective study - good for finding trends and patterns as you have done. An experiment is when you can conduct trials and have a control group to eliminate confounding variables (teammates, team play style, opponents, schedule, conditioning, etc... ) in order to "prove" if a hypothesis is indeed true or not. Even then, the conclusion is only definitive to the participants in the experiment, technically, but the point of any study or experiment is to discover useful information. I definitely think your analysis yields very interesting stuff! I also love the idea of having multiple shots to have a complete game - I've always had two shots, and thought I should somehow change it, but you debunked some pretty common and counter intuitive teaching practices, in my opinion. Keep up the good work - subscribed!
@Valerious000
@Valerious000 5 жыл бұрын
Love it! I'd stay away from words like "proof" or "prove." "Support" or "evidence" would be better. Also, the numbers that you collected can be run through a simple statistical formula/calculator to see if the numerical differences by category are enough to be statistically significant. You can find calculators here (www.socscistatistics.com/tests/) and background info for basic understanding here (www.statisticshowto.datasciencecentral.com/probability-and-statistics/z-score/). You can assign values to each category and see if the differences are significant. The set point differences may actual be significant. Thanks for the awesome video!
@batsman46
@batsman46 4 жыл бұрын
yea yea go tell that to michael jordan.
@RJ-fi9zo
@RJ-fi9zo 2 жыл бұрын
you should have chosen players based on their percentage, not number of makes. why is lebron on this list?
@EvanNagao
@EvanNagao 6 жыл бұрын
I used to try to change my one motion, low set point shot because my favorite players at the time were Kobe, Allen, etc.. once curry came to the scene, I realized that the one motion shot is pretty normal and actually beneficial to smaller players
@christiandecastro3360
@christiandecastro3360 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Nagao same bro, i always found 2 motion shots look nicer and 1 motion shots ugly cuz it looks like your throwing the ball. I tried shooting one motion and now im surprised when i miss
@thecao4407
@thecao4407 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Nagao same i was thinking that my one motion shoot was ugly because kobe MJ pierce allen... had the ball over their head ...but my shoot is efficient so im staying with it
@thecao4407
@thecao4407 6 жыл бұрын
Christian De Castro ikr 👍
@thecao4407
@thecao4407 6 жыл бұрын
Give me your snapchat so i can send you videos of me shooting and tell me if its good or not
@semajgnik
@semajgnik 6 жыл бұрын
Ya same here. I tried to shoot like MJ then AI (with the elbows out). I used to shoot from the chest as a kid since I wasnt strong enough to have a high set point. But once I became physically capable of shooting with a high set point, I made sure I never shot from the chest again, unless its a half court shot or something.
@chilisauce9750
@chilisauce9750 6 жыл бұрын
This really shouldn't surprise anyone. The 1-motion shooting, like set shooting has always been more accurate due to a simpler motion and reliance on leg strength. But it's harder to get off due to lower shot point, thus requiring more separation. The 2-motion jumpshot is less accurate due to a more complex motion and more reliance on arm strength. But the higher shot allows you shoot over players, thus requiring less separation. They both have their pros and cons. The best dynamic players who have great mid range game like Jordan, Kobe and Wade would uses the 2-motion because it allows them to just straight up shoot over their defenders, making them almost indefendable. Meanwhile, almost all 3pt specialists are all 1-motion shooters because they are more accurate but needs ways to create separation such as using screens and etc. Players like Curry or Dame are special because they have such great speed, handle and body control to create their own separation.
@Frilleon
@Frilleon 6 жыл бұрын
Chili Sauce well said. Many important points here
@ScotShotBasketball
@ScotShotBasketball 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better comments that I've seen on my videos.
@zachjohnson5228
@zachjohnson5228 6 жыл бұрын
I would even argue that players like Kobe use both shooting motions, a one motion early release shot while on the perimeter and a two motion late release shot inside.
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 3 жыл бұрын
@Alejandro Gjezi Maybe the higher set point is a habit of a taller player who didn't have to jump so much to get a height advantage over his typical defenders from youth through college. Habits develop that way. Shorter players stayed further out and needed greater accuracy, so a low set point and one motion gave distance and accuracy.
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 3 жыл бұрын
@Alejandro Gjezi I see a lot of taller players (among the pros) having difficulty when they get away from the basket. The best form seems to be difficult for them. A lot shoot with a lot of high set point and a big movement of the shooting arm back over the head. Robert Parish (from earlier) is a clear example of that. It makes shooting mid-range tougher. So, matching the form to the distance and opposition you have to get over is a little difficult.
@ramon.oliveira
@ramon.oliveira 6 жыл бұрын
Your analyzes are excellent , I learned with your videos how to shoot the ball, and today thanks to the knowledge that you share, I shoot superb, naturally and distant from the hoop. tks
@eme120ep
@eme120ep 6 жыл бұрын
Love how he went into detail about this most coaches and people dont
@eladevron24
@eladevron24 6 жыл бұрын
One thing to be careful with early release as a guard or a short wing is the amount of power you jump with, I as a more athletic guard low set point and early release timing struggled with the problem of jumping to high when I shoot, but when my coach told me to try and use less power when I jump to shot, my 3pt% increased by 3-4%, huge difference. Great vid, keep up the good work dude
@howardhill3395
@howardhill3395 6 жыл бұрын
The 1 motion early release doesn't need a big jump from the legs, as it transfers the energy from the jump through the arms more efficiently. i notice Steph has a very small jump. In Steph's case: 1 motion, quick release, low release point.
@eladevron24
@eladevron24 6 жыл бұрын
Howard Hill that's what I said, to be careful to not jump to high, maybe I wasnt very creal
@Plyde001
@Plyde001 4 жыл бұрын
this is such a thorough research! appreciate all the effort you put into this man!
@DGamBrz
@DGamBrz 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent content as always. Keep it up.
@mannyguerra11
@mannyguerra11 6 жыл бұрын
Another amazing vid! Great work bro!
@elphoenix8418
@elphoenix8418 4 жыл бұрын
Love this analytic video, put so much effort in the research Thank you :)
@1Leafy
@1Leafy 6 жыл бұрын
Love your vids
@donttalkpish2012
@donttalkpish2012 6 жыл бұрын
nice channel lad! keep up the good work
@joshuarogosich6898
@joshuarogosich6898 3 жыл бұрын
So glad someone else has figured this out, great vid
@p3noisiii980
@p3noisiii980 4 жыл бұрын
You always have such great footage of the best shooters
@yurrr1211
@yurrr1211 5 жыл бұрын
I shoot with a 2 motion and I've always been a good mid range shooter. I tried the 1 and was BRICKS the whole day🤦
@TRxh98
@TRxh98 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 2 motion shooters are money from mid range. I used to be 2motion as well but I had to change my jumper a bit to get better at shooting those three pointers
@DaTitan94
@DaTitan94 5 жыл бұрын
Your summary came from only 1 day of shooting with an unusuale form for you? My early shooting was (deep in my mind) hitting the ring is better than airballs. So I became stuck with bricks and very low percentige. One day a episode of the cosby show came in my mind and I realized the deep in my mind hitting the ring impresse only very small young kiddies but nothing else(for example the scoreboard). I chnanged my form and day after day a lot of unbelievable bad airballs over and over again but 3 weeks later I got a midrange shoot that goes in and 2 Months later I got a three point shoot.
@JohnDoe-tf4un
@JohnDoe-tf4un 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir mid range gang
@leroyglam3920
@leroyglam3920 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video👍🏽
@kaimono6174
@kaimono6174 6 жыл бұрын
Your voice makes me fall asleep. Great video man! Subscribed
@ucquangtran1163
@ucquangtran1163 4 жыл бұрын
Love you Scot Shot Basketball
@MichaelImo
@MichaelImo 6 жыл бұрын
how about relating the effectiveness of these players with their shooting motions within the 2 point range?
@zamuelito8266
@zamuelito8266 3 жыл бұрын
Please like this comment, HE MUST DO A VIDEO ON THIS TOPIC!!!!! PLEASE!!!!
@yeah-rb6kz
@yeah-rb6kz 2 жыл бұрын
2 motion shot is always better in the midrange
@Whatwhattheidk4448
@Whatwhattheidk4448 6 жыл бұрын
Great video keep up the good work.
@deam5860
@deam5860 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 1 motion low, quick release and this whole time I was trying to change it, but it seems like its the most used and best jumpshot to use
@niconiconii4561
@niconiconii4561 6 жыл бұрын
After researching on my own physically and by tape, I've been changing my form for 2 years almost every single day. Focusing on every single detail such as which finger, how your fingers spread, thumb flick or no flick. How high you release, or releasing more horizontally, everything points to high release low arc being better for me as a short player at 5'7. Also, I've come to develop a very different thing for a baller, shooting two different forms. I started playing ball to make my shot look like Ray ray. I've achieved that imo and I currently use that for catch and shoot, one bounce and shoot, midrange and fade aways. However, for any shooting that starts with a dribble combo I switched to a one motion shot but with the hand starting at a horizontal 90 degree angle with the fingers on the left (right hand) and a thumb flick to help stabilize. With this form, I could shoot half courts EASILY and it always come out straight because of how the wrist works. With the wrist on the horizontal when you hold the ball it naturally curves and shoots straight right when you straighten your arm, as you should do to shoot consistently. Release point is eye brow height. Body always with the shooting side nearer to the rim of course. It REALLY helps.
@BryanPentecostes
@BryanPentecostes 6 жыл бұрын
I believe this has more to do with the fact that the league has turned to the 3pt shot more than back in the day when it was mainly 2 pointers. 2 pointers are more likely be more contested, which also means you would have to raise up higher over your opponents to get the shot off. When I played ball a lot I played with both styles growing up. Early release was much more fluid and easier on the arms for 3’s. But I used a 2 motion late release for inside the perimeter. Fadeaways and high contested shots.
@ScotShotBasketball
@ScotShotBasketball 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty good summary of the trends
@arshak6520
@arshak6520 6 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work bro
@tygeezy
@tygeezy 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Bonner was wrecking the league with his low set point barely jumping early release leaning forward jimmy.
@gsayago14
@gsayago14 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@luqi5
@luqi5 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed that athletic and strong players have 2 motion shots, (MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Kawhi, Ray Allen, Westbrook) and not so athletic / strong players have 1 motion or close to a one motion shot (curry, harden, KD, lillard, trae, ) and it makes sense. If you have athleticism/strength over your opponent than the first thought is ima take it to the basket or get close to it and shoot (mid range, post game). However if you dont have athleticism like that you would tend to shoot where the defense isn't so uptight, usually around the 3 point area. Also you have to take into account the rule change. Back in the days the guy would literally put a hand on your hip and play smothering physical defense forcing you to jump first and then shoot. Compared to nowadays where there is more space and leeway for the shooter to shoot. Thats why I believe shoot the shot that is most suited for your body type. Yes there are certain shots or play style you can't have because of your shot, Curry will never be able to shoot post fades, pull up mid ranges like MJ or Kobe, however at the same time MJ or Kobe won't be able to shoot with the range or quickness like Curry's. You can be a great 3 point shooter with a 2 motion shot or a have a great mid range game with a 1 motion shot. But it would be more efficient and wiser to take your strengths and amplify it so that it opens up the game for your team mates.
@ronmo1493
@ronmo1493 5 жыл бұрын
kd have a 2 motion and Carmelo
@SJ.J2
@SJ.J2 5 жыл бұрын
don't overrate the defense back then, apart from the pistons overdoing it for a while, it's not like everyone was getting choked.
@JayzsMr
@JayzsMr 3 жыл бұрын
It's not really related to athleticism but how the game has changed . Strong athletic players used to shoot midrange over people hanging in the air . Now no one shoots midrange because it's not efficient so the athletic players don't need a shot that hangs in the air Look at a player like Ja Morant who is a phenomenal athlete but has low setpoint early release because he learned basketball in the modern 3pt era.
@strivinghigher7005
@strivinghigher7005 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Great video
@jonathanoverfelt6328
@jonathanoverfelt6328 5 жыл бұрын
I’m def a one motion off the dribble and open. But I use two motion on pull ups and fade aways. Also when I do two motion my release point is higher so agree with the trends of this video.
@zamuelito8266
@zamuelito8266 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna follow you on IG only for this video. You deserve it.
@collinhuey2090
@collinhuey2090 5 жыл бұрын
one of the best shooting videos ever, i played college ball the best shooters had one motion
@josiahhenry367
@josiahhenry367 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!
@allgainznobreaks
@allgainznobreaks 6 жыл бұрын
Good video🔥🔥
@dannzingadreamwork3743
@dannzingadreamwork3743 6 жыл бұрын
In high school I was a 2 motion shooter like Jordan. My first year in college it was changed to 1 motion but it felt like my shot was more likely to get blocked. Unless I was wide open I wouldn't shoot it and I was pretty good. But the summer before my sophomore year I went back to jump shooting with the release at the peak of my jump. And it just felt much better to rise above the defense. I always felt that I could block guys with set shots but of course they still got it off in time Most of the time. I guess it's a comfort issue or maybe my issue was just fear. I sure made way more in practice than I did in games. Still I was a very good 3 pt shooter.
@nielsb577
@nielsb577 Ай бұрын
Im a bit late but huge thankyou for this amazing Video, it really helps me out
@tounsifiras7210
@tounsifiras7210 6 жыл бұрын
this diffidently changes the Game! Kids are taught from the beginning to shoot (2 motions, mid to late release, high set point)
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 3 жыл бұрын
That's fascinating analysis. I especially liked the inclusion that it's taller wing players who use the high set point and that shorter players from range tend to have a low set point or one motion shot for better power and control. Maybe the stats need to focus a bit more narrowly on the top 25 players to see if there's any trend as you narrow the list.
@anthonyb1856
@anthonyb1856 6 жыл бұрын
Just because of the hard work and research he put into this video. I left a like
@rometlempu4839
@rometlempu4839 6 жыл бұрын
ray's shot is sooo cleaaan
@studentinfomovie
@studentinfomovie 6 жыл бұрын
Quick shooting (one motion + low release) form could be an adopted strategy that tries not only to put the ball in the air before the defender can raise his arms, but also to save your ankles, Steph being the best example of that. If you release in two-motion + high release, you might be in the air so long that you increase the chance of defender getting under you (in your landing zone). They started calling it a foul more often - it's clearly illegal by the rule book, but what good does it do if you have to leave the game. Some defenders admitted it that getting under was their strategy. You can often see Curry or Klay already stepping back to the floor by the time the defender gets to them. That way you do not have to rely on the defender being a fair play guy. Thumbs Up for the effort for this video and presenting an interesting topic.
@aw7108
@aw7108 6 жыл бұрын
Hey scot could u do a vid explaining hand placement the process of releasing the ball and where your fingers should be aimed at in your follow through?
@semajgnik
@semajgnik 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, this is why Ive never been a 3 pt shooter ever since I stopped shooting from the chest. I am a 2 motion, late release high set point shooter. its so hard for me to get range.
@brentthorne9423
@brentthorne9423 6 жыл бұрын
Good work here, I wonder what the trend is like for the top 50 shooters of each season for the last decade. Tall task yes, but it might help get rid of noise caused by a single season outlier. I'd also be interested in a breakdown of player position/ size as additional pieces of information. I'd also like to see the stats on number of NBA players who use "1 motion + early release + low set point" before and after the breakout season of steph curry. Again great job here and keep up the good work !
@caseyjones5470
@caseyjones5470 Жыл бұрын
When I started playing about a year ago, I had a set point between my nose to eye level. That was my natural form. I then saw Klay Thompson making a 3 pointer for the first time and I was like wow his form is amazing so I obsessed over his form and emulated it. Took awhile to get comfortable with a high set point but I got it down. To be honest though, I feel less accurate shooting 3s with my new form. I remember I made 5 3s in a row with the lower set point with little effort or much training. I probably need more practice with the new form but it for sure is more challenging to master than the form I started with.
@BBigSmooth
@BBigSmooth 5 жыл бұрын
you are amazing
@capdriving
@capdriving 6 жыл бұрын
i will teach this to my high school kids. good stats. you have an hypothesis and you use stats to arrive to a conclusion.. Great video for poor 3 point shooter. I did learn from video and it is applicable
@clipside4823
@clipside4823 6 жыл бұрын
One motion shot is so great especially if your not that strong and athletic... i used this myself and it feels more natural and easy for me...
@harryk302
@harryk302 6 жыл бұрын
my man u deserve a like and a sub :)
@reotseng3299
@reotseng3299 6 жыл бұрын
These ideas all seem to be logical to me. Just difficult to implement into your game
@EXODIAELOHIMOFFICIAL
@EXODIAELOHIMOFFICIAL 6 жыл бұрын
Reo Tseng it’s not too difficult as long as you can find somebody who’s mechanics that works well for you. The “blueprint” player you should study is Klay Thompson. When I did instead of studying Curry or Kyrie, my game got better because it was more simple to copy Klay’s fundamentals.
@RibsBjj
@RibsBjj 6 жыл бұрын
Devon Clark Devin Booker is a good one too. Simple and smooth jumper
@EXODIAELOHIMOFFICIAL
@EXODIAELOHIMOFFICIAL 6 жыл бұрын
João Paulo I just started studying him for his jumper and Demar Derozan for footwork and positioning
@RibsBjj
@RibsBjj 6 жыл бұрын
Devon Clark After that you just need JJ Redrick off ball movement or Rip Hamilton if you like old school ball
@aigarsbru6702
@aigarsbru6702 6 жыл бұрын
OVer the years I've tried all sorts of shooting techniques. For me the most convenient ones during practice are - low set point 1 motion early releases. However, in games I'll tend uncontrollably to shoot differently - mid set point 1 motion mid or late releases. That's because it gives me more time to place the ball in my palm correctly and also to find the target (basket) and estimate the distance.
@gledalka
@gledalka 6 жыл бұрын
Coming from the a cycling background I started calling this early release timing in basketball "pumping" , It feels exactly the same, catching the timing that you generate with the up and down motion with your body and transferring it into the ball or bmx on the pumps.
@ScotShotBasketball
@ScotShotBasketball 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting connection. All about efficiency I guess
@bogusphone8000
@bogusphone8000 Жыл бұрын
Should add to the analysis the impact of rule changes in NBA fostering the change in shooting form. If you watch older film, most shooters were 2 motion, high set point shooters in order to even get the shot off with a defender so close. The one motion, low set point has been fostered by the space generated by the offense first rule changes.
@classyassmothafucka8890
@classyassmothafucka8890 5 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Ray Allen's form... Ray Allen KNOWS his form. I see other shooters like Curry and Klay say things like "Point your toes at the basket" "Straight up and down" and "Shoot with 1 hand"... but Ray Allen actually describes his form AS IT IS. Ray Allen's form is much closer to the standard form coached for the last 50+ years. He jumps straight up and down. He Stops the ball in setting position (2 motion shot). Keeps his elbow in, Releases at the top of his jump. He holds his follow through (and there's now a debate that THAT may create shot tension in the shooting shoulder). Though these mechanics are actually not ideal, you can tell that Ray Allen hasn't only trained muscle memory in his shot... but he's actually built his shot around the coaching he received... not his natural body mechanics. That's both a good thing and a bad thing. The bad... we now know that Ray Allen's shot is... not optimal in several ways. BUT the good... we also know that Ray Allen's shot was built from the ground up... meaning no part of Ray Allen's shot has gone unattended to. Ray Allen has CERTAINLY put repetition to good work. If I were to guess (since there's not enough data to know for sure) I would guess that Ray Allen has put in the most structured repetition of any shooter in NBA history. Steph Curry for example tends to be more improvisational, but Ray Allen's shooting routine is the exact same every time. You can learn shooting from any of a host of shooters in the NBA... be it Curry, Dirk, KD, MJ... but you learn perfect practice habits from Ray Allen.
@jl1835
@jl1835 3 жыл бұрын
also, the categorization of release timing could be quantitative, e.g., the amount of the time before the moment of release / the period from jumping to reaching apex.
@jhalparo3827
@jhalparo3827 5 жыл бұрын
It's all about your stamina. If you are 2 motion, mid release timing, and high set point, each shoot drain your stamina a lot rather than 1 motion, mid release timing and low set point. I prefer use 2 motion shoot for deep 2 or midrange to avoid the defender
@erenkun4196
@erenkun4196 5 жыл бұрын
thanks this change my jump shot from 45% to 80%
@A08J
@A08J Жыл бұрын
Don't confuse one-motion with not having a set point, one motion simply transfers all the lifting power into your shit to extend range and increase release speed. I was recently in the biggest shooting slump I've ever had and realized it was because I had basically no set-point, since the lifting speed varied a little each time I took a shot, the shot would veer off very badly. The point of the set point in a one motion shot is to properly transfer the lifting energy, without a proper set point, the shot energy is not controlled
@user-hf8py7qp7j
@user-hf8py7qp7j 5 жыл бұрын
Hey i like your shooting mechanics can you do a video - jump shot tutorial ?
@rayallensjumper
@rayallensjumper 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen’s jumper changed over time. On the bucks, he had a high arch. On the Celtics and heat, he had a quicker release and a lower arch. He also didn’t really extend his arm out as much, but still had a great wrist flick. He still had a dip in his shot with a high release point that was a two motion shot throughout his career. He could have a low arch bc of how much he practiced his jumper
@drellmatthews2586
@drellmatthews2586 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please show us some NBA 3 point shooters below 6 ft ??? Tyler Ulis , Muggsy Bouges , Earl Boykins , Nate Robinson , Isaiah Thomas , Junior Robinson , Spud Webb ??? I wonder how they get their shots off being so undersized . Please I'd Love to hear you do a break down on whether the 1-2 or HOP is more effective for shorter guys . Love your content !
@box4aza
@box4aza 6 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about the deep
@tripzero0
@tripzero0 6 жыл бұрын
If height is somehow related to set point position, could arm length/wing span actually be the factor? Is there a correlation between arm length and setpoint?
@DrewD748
@DrewD748 6 жыл бұрын
tripzero height has more to do with power, usually taller people have more benefits from a higher set point due to limiting there power so they don’t bang it off the backboard. Usually taller people have longer arms, but of course there is always exceptions. So I would say yes arm length is a factor kind of like having a longer barrel on a rifle or longer arms transitions to more power/velocity on the ball, which by shortening your stroke length you decrease your power to have a softer release.
@Khail707
@Khail707 6 жыл бұрын
IMO arm length is a big factor.. even great shooters like KD have more cockback or wined up in their shots than shorter players who shoot straight up or away from their fave
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains 6 жыл бұрын
Drew D look at how kd shoot. He arm is so long he put it slightly to the left, just slightly for his setpoint.
@DrewD748
@DrewD748 6 жыл бұрын
GilxSullinger yes I’ve noticed that he also sometimes has a slight bend in his elbow and he swings his arm back to the right on his follow through, from what I can remember anyway. I’m going to go over his form right now. Lol. He is a weirder one but thats because he is so tall. Ive noticed that a lot of taller players shoot more flat, like Pau Gasol and Karl Anthony Towns. Karl also doesn’t even jump he just bends his knee’s a little.
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains 6 жыл бұрын
Drew D well karl utilize the early release for power so he doesnt need to jump that much. Just like a hop ? Well just relax and shoot. If ur arm is really long then imitate kd form if not dont do it. anyway wish you all the best on ur shooting game
@theofficialphil
@theofficialphil 6 жыл бұрын
You need to make a video on how jumping higher helps in the midrange and how to slowly integrate a higher jump for a pull up
@ScotShotBasketball
@ScotShotBasketball 6 жыл бұрын
Next 3 videos, one’s going to cover the difference
@theofficialphil
@theofficialphil 6 жыл бұрын
Scot Shot Basketball thank youu!!! I shoot with a one motion with early to mid shooting timing but I’ve been trying lately to jump higher on my midrange pull up but the transition is pretty hard was hoping you’d maybe have some tips for me. Keep up he great work!
@yiwang5250
@yiwang5250 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. How to practice early release time in general?
@DREGA
@DREGA 5 жыл бұрын
One motion low to mid set point also puts less wear on front delt and also increases range and conditioning
@CharlesGilmore3
@CharlesGilmore3 6 жыл бұрын
Int. Very interesting.
@Lalambz
@Lalambz 6 жыл бұрын
Just like those aracade basketball (pop a shot, ricardo reyes from jimmel kimmel), if u pretty much scale it, its pretty much what steph does
@aigarsbru6702
@aigarsbru6702 6 жыл бұрын
OVer the years I've tried all sorts of shooting techniques. For me the most convenient ones during practice are - low set point 1 motion early releases. However, in games I'll tend uncontrollably to shoot differently - mid set point 1 motion mid or late releases. That's because it gives me more time to place the ball in my palm correctly and also to find the target (basket) and estimate the distance.
@noahlivingston6764
@noahlivingston6764 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think about shooting the ball on the way up??
@SlyAngel911
@SlyAngel911 5 жыл бұрын
2 things I think you should take in consideration for the context : - 1 motion and quick release is probably trained more by players today because 3 pts is the main weapon and you need to be able to shoot quickly against defense, not only when you're open. It's necessary in NBA because game is quick. For me it's more to gain time on shooting than because it's more accurate (IMO) - Short guys have a better coordination of the body, so it's easier for them to coordinate jumping and shooting, taller guys are better in jumping to there high point and then shooting from there. The amplitude is larger too for tall guys, so it's less easy to reproduce the perfect timing in the combination of both jumping and releasing the ball. As best 3 pts shooters are usually guards, it's not surprising. But for tall guys, should be easier and more effective to shoot in 2 motions. For me it's more about game necessity to have a quick shoot and body size, more than efficiency in the technic. But I agree 1 motion is less exhausting too.
@mcyuop1929
@mcyuop1929 6 жыл бұрын
ohhh im part of that early realease timing
@naverap7642
@naverap7642 6 жыл бұрын
Please do zahari smith's shooting form, love your videos
@Humble_808
@Humble_808 6 жыл бұрын
Zahari smith, lmao
@calvin4319
@calvin4319 5 жыл бұрын
Who is that lol
@matthew-ox5zx
@matthew-ox5zx 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh it depends on what position you play. If you're a big man doing post moves and stuff use a two motion shot. But if your guard use a one motion shot
@FusiveSwag
@FusiveSwag 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a good 3p shooter. I do the low jumping 3’s. But when I’m in mid range I do a higher jump.
@malonedick3541
@malonedick3541 5 жыл бұрын
I shoot 1 motion for threes and 2 motion for mid ranges works for me well
@williamquinn7826
@williamquinn7826 5 жыл бұрын
1 motion , early release point, mid range set point shooting is the best way to shoot. It makes it feel effort less and smoother plus the release is faster and more accurate. 🏀 By, 🎭
@aryaan136
@aryaan136 5 жыл бұрын
Its almost impossible to do early release with higher set point
@kylerwhite6101
@kylerwhite6101 6 жыл бұрын
I love this shit
@youngjohn5076
@youngjohn5076 6 жыл бұрын
I think it has more to do with the size of the player with growing up . Smaller player learn to have a faster and lower release point to get their shoot off faster .
@user-fg7kk1kn6b
@user-fg7kk1kn6b 5 жыл бұрын
It depends. There was hand checking before and it is so hard to pass a defender. That is why you need a jumpshot not set shot. It means you need to jump first, and in your peak , you release the ball. Remember Reggie Miller? His defenders are allowed to hold his jersey...
@_Maxten
@_Maxten 5 жыл бұрын
naturally I'm a mid release time shooter with a low set point and an arc similar to ray allen's. not sure how any of those correlate but its what i do
@jeydkabigas5193
@jeydkabigas5193 6 жыл бұрын
Bro even if I shoot backwards or even below my knees, if it goes in then it's good.
@dannzingadreamwork3743
@dannzingadreamwork3743 6 жыл бұрын
Basically 2 motion is better for mid range shots. And is it wise to have two different shots or just practice one way? I used a pull-up jumper a lot. So I just used same pattern for all my shots. Of course not all because we still have to use a set shot on free throws. Lol. If only I could go back in time.
@jameslearing970
@jameslearing970 6 жыл бұрын
Do gary Harris Jumpshot please
@rayallensjumper
@rayallensjumper 6 жыл бұрын
Unless u have incredible leg strength and endurance like ray Allen, u should try and aim for an early/mid release and with a mid set point
@theartofcompetition5965
@theartofcompetition5965 6 жыл бұрын
how can you be a one motion shooter and have a set point also?
@jacobspitalny
@jacobspitalny 6 жыл бұрын
Look at ammos shooting release. Morrow is my all time favorite shooter
@alejandramatlock3283
@alejandramatlock3283 6 жыл бұрын
Superb video. My theory is that good leaders TEND to have two motion jumpers. Is love to be proven wrong, but see MJ, Lebron and Kobe as prime examples. They relied more on their athleticism and are usually labeled as "scorers", not "shooters". I'm a two motion shooter and this video is finally the nail in the coffin that I need to change my shot, permanently, even though i'm in my mid-30s. However I like to shoot mid range jumper's in traffic so I'm going to experiment between the two using the two shot mid range and one shot from long distance.
@zachjohnson5228
@zachjohnson5228 6 жыл бұрын
Through my own practice, I have found early release one motion shots are only effective in the 3pt area. As you get closer to the rim, the release point and motion of the shot need to be extended as the shots need more arch and less distance. Not sure on the analytics of this statement, but I was personally trained for years to shoot in a high release, and to only use two motions if I need to elevate above a defender. Good vid tho
@luiscarlostabian2192
@luiscarlostabian2192 5 жыл бұрын
1 motion for behind the arc 2 motion for inside the arc
@ioriocaballero
@ioriocaballero 6 жыл бұрын
i´m 5´9´´ and i use a high set point / two time jump shot....i know you ve to be pretty strong or trained person but for me is the best or the most efficient way....and I try them all, its its easier and pretty accurate to be low releaser and 1 motion shooter but ... its not about range or accuracy it has to fit into your style offensively
@jomaridelossantos3793
@jomaridelossantos3793 5 жыл бұрын
my Dad taught me how to shoot my dad told me to shoot and took notes i had a pretty bad form and timing so my dad trained me he told me if i was inside the 3 point study Kobe if i was outside he told me to watch steph curry and watching both my favourite players shoot doing all the work off the court my dad taught me to forget about it and told me you make 50 here and then here and so on ive had the same shot form so has my dad dont change ur form change the training of your shot
@quinroark8519
@quinroark8519 6 жыл бұрын
where can i get this graph?
@ScotShotBasketball
@ScotShotBasketball 6 жыл бұрын
It's in the description. Second link
@irvinge4641
@irvinge4641 5 жыл бұрын
this guy should become a data scientist
@chiefdev6289
@chiefdev6289 6 жыл бұрын
Do the high school player Zion Harmon he’s only 5’11 can shoot from deep with a mid-late motion timing I don’t know how... maybe it’s his mechanics, but please you should do a video on him .. the way he shoots it’s interesting 🤔... sometimes he barely jumps other times he’s like 3 ft off the ground
@pinkpanos
@pinkpanos 6 жыл бұрын
Chief Dev he is probably just really strong
@chiefdev6289
@chiefdev6289 6 жыл бұрын
The Greek Freak I have a couple of friends who are just as strong but when they try they always air ball... they are use to one motion shooting
@pinkpanos
@pinkpanos 6 жыл бұрын
Chief Dev you don't know how strong he is tho, and strength isn't just arms he probably has strong legs and core.
@chiefdev6289
@chiefdev6289 6 жыл бұрын
Kerrid Esor I don’t airball unless I shoot two motion which I shoot only if I’m kind of heavily contested and need to get a shot off which are normally my deep contested mid ranges
@chiefdev6289
@chiefdev6289 6 жыл бұрын
Kerrid Esor I don’t know how but personally I like it better because your shooting at the apex of your jump... I can get off the ground high enough but when I’m releasing it at the top of my jump it has no power and feels hard to shoot that way
@xcvsumextra
@xcvsumextra 6 жыл бұрын
No doubt
@keyshawnjohnson1612
@keyshawnjohnson1612 6 жыл бұрын
STEPHEN CURRY HEAD TO TOE AND 🔥🔥 VIDS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. (u were yelling in ur mind ain't it)
@bojanmarkovic1717
@bojanmarkovic1717 6 жыл бұрын
its about release timing,its about upper mechanics , speed of entering in set point... every shot is two motion you have to pick up your ball and release it in some point... activating antagonists by doing that, so it can not be one motion... that is a term by some yt coaches that started they business by selling crap ... like most shit on internet nowadays...
@CertifiedPG
@CertifiedPG 6 жыл бұрын
Bojan Markovic No. The term has been around well before KZfaq shooting coaches. There’s no real pause in between start to finish. Two motion has a clear pause. Those are the terms, like it or not.
@bojanmarkovic1717
@bojanmarkovic1717 6 жыл бұрын
when ? who was using that term? name one respectful coach... and like it or not that "pause" is just a part of shooting motion , you still, in that "one motion shooting" have to achieve that position and determinate that transition from pulling up the ball to set point , only difference is that where is trajectory of your arms... Like i said , this bullshit terms are just one of more ways to impress some potential clients, and this kid is doing nothing else than that,( off course he became shooting couch suddenly) ...he claims that Ray Allen and other good "two motions" shooters are exception to the rule??? No dude, its not about that...sorry, still bullshit internet nowadays...
@user-th7hw1cy6i
@user-th7hw1cy6i 5 жыл бұрын
My dad is very old but shoots one motion, despite growing up in the forties(yes i know) and with the two motion. But he says ray allen has the prettiest and greatest ahot the NBA will ever see. 💯facts
@CelticsFor
@CelticsFor 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it depends on the size. But most people aren't that big so I guess it works.
@micahhewlenharrell2259
@micahhewlenharrell2259 Жыл бұрын
The only thing that sucks about being a 2 motion shooter is shooting off the dribble man.. especially trying to break someone off😭
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