ONE PLANE OR TWO PLANE GOLF SWING-WHICH ONE IS FOR YOU??

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Shawn Clement's Wisdom in Golf Lessons

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ONE PLANE SWING OR TWO PLANE SWINGS? WHICH ONE IS RIGHT FOR YOU? HUGE INSIGHT ON HOW TO EASILY DETERMINE WHY ONE WOULD WORK BETTER THAN THE OTHER FOR YOUR GOLF SWING AND ANATOMY. You will no longer be confused about why one works for you and the other does not.
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00:00 Shawn introduces the golf lesson w/ Sav & Mu
00:55 How the Grass whip drill helps determine what plane you swing on
02:07 Task: Cutting two tees to the target
06:15 Grass whip drill to find the swing plane w/ Sav
09:40 A Swing Plane that is in-between w/ Mu
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@bobbys4327 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff Shawn! Has really helped my swing!

@curiousbystander9193 5 ай бұрын

golf instruction always has so much language in its delivery, amazing people learn anything

@academysalon8013 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Shawn, I am till working with your method and had my lowest round ever in a medal round ( second round of my club championship) gross 67. Got my handicap down to the lowest I’ve been. 1.2, I have never hit the ball so good and it seems to be consistently good every time I play. 🙌🏼🙌🏼

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

So stoked for you man!!!👌💪😀👍It is so satisfying to play a solid round in important events; so happy for you. Let’s evolve this farther and deeper down that rabbit hole into wonderland!

@peterdutton3193 2 жыл бұрын

Great work Shawn. Best content on KZfaq by a country mile.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter, those country miles are LONG!! 😀👍😝👌

@lance5101 2 жыл бұрын

I bought Shawn's DVD "Feel your way to simplicity and clarity" years ago when I was first learning the game. Very exciting to see him going strong as I'm getting back into the game and searching for videos again!

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Lance! Nice to hear from you man! 😀👍

@marcmanion4264 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Lance - you will love getting back into the game - and there is plenty more Wisdom available these days - but - the foundations are the same!!! Let Shawn know how you are hitting them!

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

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@zhuokanli1788 2 жыл бұрын

I finally understood what u mean by hand positions, I learned that from my range session, cuz the shank came in out of nowhere. So what I learned of my swing is I use my set up as impact of my swing, when it came down to hit the ball, I extend my arms n cause the heel of the club hit the ball instead of the center of the club. So now when I set up I use the center of the club face n the front of the ball line up to my target then set up myself, drop my arm naturally n swing through. Strike the ball much better n consistently. So now I can enjoy the game much better than mad of myself all the time on the course.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff! For those who do shank, see “the football drill shawn clement” and “solid contact means no shanks shawn clement”

@jaroslawpiotrowski877 2 жыл бұрын

Shawn, your golf philosophy combined with Brandel Chamblee’s book are the essence of this game that I have personally believed in (the natural way to play) since I started playing the most beautiful game in the world. You have made my game finally undergo this necessary final transformation, thanks to which I have a great fun of the game, I hit consistently and longer, and my handicap goes down. Thank you, watching your videos is a pleasure. And I agree completely, we have a lot of "qualified" trainers around who take money for practically nothing, unpleasant observation but very true. However, there is hope because we have such wonderful enthusiasts and experts on the subject like you around us, so thank you again for being here and for finding your philosophy on youtoube!

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

A huge heartfelt thank you for your awesome comment and kind words; 😀👍❤️👌

@robertmazzarachio7939 2 жыл бұрын

Great video I’m learning so much watching you ,Sav and Moo keep this great information coming

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert! Good stuff, and yes, count on it! We are on a mission!

@robertmazzarachio7939 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons so glad you are, you ,Sav and Moo have helped me enormously 👍👍🏌️‍♂️cutting grass , pick the target and intermediate target and my favorite nailing the door frame what pearls of wisdom

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertmazzarachio7939 thank you Robert! 👍😀

@rochellestanley9532 2 жыл бұрын

Love your tips Shawn

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@sfink16 2 жыл бұрын

Great video explanation! I kind of raise my hands at address as you explain Nancy Lopez(?) did in a single plane fashion.

@mrpriceisright 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, as a single planer and Moe fan of 20 yrs, its great to see you show it (also didn't know you had known him). I had noticed (& like) Sav's single plane swing but missed the Lopez move til now. Very curious to know how she learned to swing single plane!

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ashley! This is the thing: It is not a “single plane” as much as a way for the human machine to deliver a grass cutting tool through the grass and along the ground to the target with the grip and posture and appendages that you were born to use for your survival. The way my hands and wrists work, the length of my arms, the way my kinetic chain engages with the body I have there is no way to LOOK LIKE a “single plane” golfer like Savy, Bryson or Moe. However, my tilt is the same, my lag, my release pattern on the same kind of shots, my leverage, brace, steadiness in the head, my up and down action with the ground can rival anyone’s. This game is truly the best game out there.

@mrpriceisright 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons I vaguely remember, was it Harvey Penick said - if his students would practice swinging a weed cutter, he'd be out of a job?

@markholdenlanzarote 2 жыл бұрын

I'm single plane. Hands high like Savs, straight line 'impact position' ish at address. So much more consistent than when I have hands low like you do.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Mark! Thank you for the comment and feedback!

@cynt1111 2 жыл бұрын

Shawn you were so lucky to have spent time with Moe.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

You bet! That man is still a treasure to this day; what a gift to the game of golf he is!👍😀

@markschwieterman2296 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a one planer I tried the two plane swing and it was just two hard for me but when I tried the one plane swing I became more consistent

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Like you saw here, it is most likely because your anatomy lends itself to it!

@BrianOstrovsky1 2 жыл бұрын

So..what does this do to aligning behind the ball (forward/back)? I often noticed that Savannah lines up (most obvious on driver) with the ball closer to the toe. It seems that if you extend to the single plane after you start the swing that your arms will extend and therefore you would hit the hozel (or at least heel strike) if you didn't take that into consideration. I'm wondering because I often have to lineup with the ball about a third of the way to the toe to strike the middle of the club. Thoughts?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

The distance between you and the ball CHANGES DRAMATICALLY DEPENDING ON YOUR FOCUS! If you go for the ball, you could shank the driver and when you deliver through the ball (tip of tee) towards the target, then you will likely hit solid! Full extension is at the target, not at the ball!

@jek7011 2 жыл бұрын

Shawn, I follow your instruction but my swing often never touches the ground at all, which resulting in thin shot. Do you happen to have a video on this? Is it about release?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

See “where to park your eyes shawn clement” and “grass whip training shawn clement” and “solid contact with the irons shawn clement” and “drill to flush your irons shawn clement” You are not defective! When you look at the ball, and brain sees the ball, you will easily this or top the thing. When your eyes are on the grass, between the leading edge and the ball and then mind sees “cut through stem” in the direction of the target, and the focus is on how the sole of club cuts through grass and ground’s surface, it changes everything! On our premium channel, you want to see “task trumps everything” and “top 3 tasks” to start, then see “predict contact” and “the goldie locks series” and the “2 tee perpetual motion drill” video.

@billoliver9814 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thank you. Name of the supplier of the portable aircon device please

@golflessons 8 ай бұрын

Sorry I missed you! Hope you found it! 👍🙃

@GolfFran 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that my swing is single plane. This explains why my unique swings are simple

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@conway649 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great video. Earlier this year I was seduced by the marketing barrage of "single plane" from T.G.'s website but it just messed me up. It makes so much more sense to me to have the simple swing thought of cutting grass and making the target the target - not the ball. When I found out that Shawn also worked with Moe it made my decision to block T.G's videos from showing up in my KZfaq feed all the better! P.S. I'm a wisdom in golf premium member too ;)

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Right on Jack! We all swing like Moe from the inside out and not from the outside in! 👍😀💪👌

@stephenjohnson80 2 жыл бұрын

First thought was Nancy Lopez. A great person to immulate.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man!!

@sumitagg1 2 жыл бұрын

When we worked together, the longer irons and driver were on a flatter swing plane. Dynamically, we were setting up on a flatter plane at addres

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sumit! That is correct! You saw the distance to ball with all clubs and remember that the hands are farther from the body with the longer clubs? On the premium channel, see “the throwing series” where we throw clubs and items of different lengths to show this and many viewers right now think that the hands are same distance to the body with all clubs. This is why so many struggle with the long irons and woods and driver! See also the latest long iron video called “gently flush the long irons shawn clement”

@TheIncomparableGolfer Жыл бұрын

What about the 3- Plane swing? 😉

@golflessons Жыл бұрын

I am sure it exists out there somewhere! 😝😝😂😂

@rsanchez5676 2 жыл бұрын

Omg she’s gorgeous!

@michaelrood2751 2 жыл бұрын

How close together Are the two tees?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

4 inches apart

@alexmedjesi2520 2 жыл бұрын

Is a single plane swing easier for a beginner or higher handicapper than a two plane?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily; Savy and I still have the same movements; they just look different at first view but they are still the same kinetic chain engaging!

@alexmedjesi2520 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons Can you use the single plane for the driver and woods and two plane for irons? or is that a bad idea? Should I stick to one or the other swing?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmedjesi2520 ABSOLUTELY!!! Hogan was the PERFECT EXAMPLE! See his “in persuit of perfection” video at his last appearance at the masters where he looked like the hands were between the knees with the wedges and short irons and single plane with the fairway woods and driver!!

@alexmedjesi2520 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons Was Moe Norman always a single plane swing player?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmedjesi2520 Moe always had the look of a single plane swinger, yes. He took the classic reach for the ball beginner position and DYNAMICALLY delivered the ball into his flight plans. Everything was about collect ball from here and send it over there. He said he had the swing “trapped” at age 19 and evolved from there.

@berniebroder2024 2 жыл бұрын

I understand the logic behind the grass whip ang getting us on plane, but visually it looks likes it's promoting a more over the top/out to in swing.. No?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Not one bit! See all my “over the top shawn clement” videos and you will see how easy it is to rid that on the spot!

@djpoints 2 ай бұрын

Lol....welll...that was..uh.. interesting 🙃 love Shawn but save Savanah this one wasn't quiteready for primetime, which is a shame because in my experience it's truly the most important fundamental distinction any aspiring golfer needs to understand, more than ever actually due to all the seemingly contradictory instruction available at our fingertips. It's inly contradictory because 99.99% of instruction fails to contextualize the different planes. Oh well, all the confusion is good for the click machine 😉

@kourt2469 Жыл бұрын

I'm much more one plane like sav with higher hands at address. For me I have to have my clubs 2-3 degrees upright. Does sav play her irons upright because she's got such high hands? I've never went and had an actual fitting, no place close to do that so just going off of what's worked best for me so far.

@golflessons Жыл бұрын

Going off what works best is a great place to be!!

@wordclouds2906 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the backswing (Savannah) be even smoother if she, at address, held her trail elbow a bit lower and keep it inside the hip? (Would put the trail arm into a bit more into the shape that it has during the swing to the top, eliminating the motion from stretch to bend.)

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

See “secret to John Rahm’s swing is width shawn clement”

@wordclouds2906 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons That is why I am asking: You create a flying elbow and then bring the elbow back in while flattening. (and isn't flattening about eliminating leverage?) If you keep the elbow inside the right hip and down at address, your right arm goes goes up without getting into a flying position consequently without need for repositioning, without loss of width. I can imagine some benefits to a flying elbow and some benefits to not having a flying elbow. My thought is that a flying elbow enhances the chance that a player might apply undesired leverage to the handle.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

@@wordclouds2906 The flying elbow is a HUMAN BUILT IN MOVEMENT PATTERN!! You would never coach a baseball pitcher, hitter, lumberjack, tennis player, Jai Alai athlete etc to keep their elbow in. This would kill the power AND NATURAL RELEASE PATTERN that you needed 1000 years ago to throw stuff at your food. Golf instruction has brainwashed us into thinking we are defective when in fact we are the opposite; we are Pinocchio with no strings and as we practice this way, we get better and evolve amazingly well!

@jacquessivade8763 2 жыл бұрын

Cher Shawn J'ai constaté depuis toujours, que votre fille, avançait légèrement les mains, au moment précis où elle démarrait son swing, j'essaie de l'imiter avec quelques succès dans mes coups. De même j'ai remarqué une attitude identique chez vous, au moment de l'impact. Cette "position", je l'ai mise en évidence, sur vos videos de profil, en plaçant sur mon écran un cache, à l'adresse, qui masque votre silhouette, à la limite extrême de vos mains, j'attends la réalisation du swing: et à ma surprise, je vois vos mains qui passent devant le cache. Sur la dernière video du 14-08, ce passage des mains est encore plus évidente chez l'impressionnant MU...Si vous me répondez faites-le je vous prie en français: merci.

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Concentre toi moins sur imiter certains mouvements et BEAUCOUP PLUS sur tes tâches qui t’amèneront à des mouvements fluides à travers la balle et vers ta cible. Nous sommes déjà Pinocchio sans fils et pour nous de penser à quoi faire avec nos mains est un véritable SABOTAGE à l’élan du golf.

@jacquessivade8763 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you but...

@Aloha96789 2 жыл бұрын

Does Sav have to have her clubs adjusted for the hands being higher?

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Dynamically, her lies are great!

@Aloha96789 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons So does that mean she comes into the ball with her hands lower and that she has standard lie angle clubs? My hands start low but through impact they are higher and I need to adjust my lie angle 3 degrees upright to compensate for it.

@markschwieterman2296 2 жыл бұрын

@@Aloha96789 no she on 1 plane club goes back and comes back on the same plane wear as with a two plane swing the club goes back but does not come back on the same plane as with the single plane swing club goes back and comes back at the same position every time

@chrissunseri6315 2 жыл бұрын

Shawn, love ya man, but Sav's swing is NOT a one plane swing! Look at her position in the full back swing, then look at Ben Hogan, not even close. Sorry, got this one wrong...

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris; there is no such thing as a one plane swing; just the appearance of it; Moe Norman wasn’t even one plane… Just splitting hairs is all…

@chrissunseri6315 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons Hey Shawn, please, please, please don't get me wrong, love your teaching and have learned tons from you. I'm now a 5 handicap, and believe it or not, i've used both one and two plane swings. Whenever I get in trouble with the two place swing, I jump into the one plane to get me through the round. Keep up the great work and keep them coming.

@rbarnard19 2 жыл бұрын

second

@erikRR 2 жыл бұрын

First!

@bobkirkwood2992 Жыл бұрын

The problem I have with all of the golf teachers subscription web sites is the overwhelming quantity of the videos.

@golflessons Жыл бұрын

Hey Bob! This is why I include 2 video analysis for my customers if they need it to point them to the videos that pertain to their needs; after some practice and feedback we do a second one and continue the momentum and things get nice and stable after that!

@bobkirkwood2992 Жыл бұрын

@@golflessons does this 2 video analysis come with the Par subscription?

@golflessons Жыл бұрын

@@bobkirkwood2992 yes, special promotion that I give personally!

@mikecarver8770 2 жыл бұрын

Neither I suck so bad I have quit playing!!!

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

Get a grass whip and start cutting; when you get good at that, you are good at golf; case closed!

@_scumbrisket3172 2 жыл бұрын

I need to understand the difference between the two planes

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

It boils down to the “look” of things and golf instruction throughout the years has had it’s ups and downs naming names of swing systems. In our schools, you are the going concern and not some theory based on someone’s opinion. Your machine has it’s way of delivering the ball from point A to point B and it’s our job to find out what tasks you need to focus on to get all the body parts to engage into what we call a “kinetic chain” or “Kinematic Sequence” that is truly a human reflex. You want to be able to throw and sling and whip through into the flight plan EASILY and we provide you with all the TRUE FUNDAMENTALS of dynamic grip, dynamic posture, a blue print to gather a full backswing to allow you to deliver with the fullest potential momentum WITHOUT STRAIN; AS STRAIN IS THE ENEMY OF THIS ACTION. www.wisdomingolfpremium.com is really the way to go and we now have a great new partner on accessing all this important information through these amazing people wisdomingolf.retrieve.com/store/#/

@_scumbrisket3172 2 жыл бұрын

@@golflessons next year I should have 11k to piss away on golf… i know your worth every penny… your youtube is worth gold… definitely gonna subscribe to something soon…

@golflessons 2 жыл бұрын

@@_scumbrisket3172 we will be right here for you!