OnePlus 12 vs OnePlus 11: It's not a fair fight...

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JuanBagnell

JuanBagnell

4 ай бұрын

TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy OnePlus 12 vs OnePlus 11! I would normally do a "one year upgrade" video, but that didn't feel right here. The OP12 doesn't replace the OP11. They're different devices with slightly different audiences in mind. Still, that doesn't mean we CAN'T compare them a little right?
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@consciousgentile5141
@consciousgentile5141 4 ай бұрын
Its criminal they didnt bring the white oneplus 12 to international market
@kaiserfakinaway5909
@kaiserfakinaway5909 4 ай бұрын
hey man I'd rather have these over pulling an Oppo on us and not releasing the phone globally, they're doing the whole smartphone world a favor with this phone, should pressurize Samsung, Google and Apple to innovate further or reduce prices. AI features are great and all but even Oneplus phones will have em with software update after a year or so. BBK companies have been on a roll lately, releasing banger after banger
@marcochavanne
@marcochavanne 4 ай бұрын
I'd be okay with it if we had the 1TB option. That's my only complaint.
@Averybryner
@Averybryner 4 ай бұрын
I completely agree I would have totally bought it in white.
@TacticalPhoenixYT
@TacticalPhoenixYT 4 ай бұрын
​@@marcochavanneI mean, it kinda ruins the point of cheap oneplus with the expensive 1tb option. Not to mention, the only reason you need that much is if you are an insane filmmaker or emulation user, and if you need that much, just get a proper camera or pc.
@jevonsims900
@jevonsims900 4 ай бұрын
I sure D-Brand will have something to make OnePlus 12 white.
@machtschnell7452
@machtschnell7452 4 ай бұрын
Still rocking my One+ 7 Pro with 100% screen for one more year.
@cartoonbaby5711
@cartoonbaby5711 3 ай бұрын
What about cameras?
@snowy7236
@snowy7236 3 ай бұрын
If you are not a power user then 5 years old phone is OK
@xChikyx
@xChikyx 2 ай бұрын
I'm still uaing my oneplus 5, it was the lastest version when I bought it lol
@dextercumberbatch4334
@dextercumberbatch4334 4 ай бұрын
I notice alot of reviewers comparing the One Plus 12 to the S24 Ultra and not comparing it to the Plus.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 ай бұрын
That's because despite the price difference, the OnePlus 12 is the highest tier flagship that they're offering in 2024 (at least so far) just like the S24 Ultra is the highest tier flagship that Samsung is offering in 2024. It makes sense to compare them both despite the price difference: The best from OnePlus (Chinese brand in the U.S.) vs the best from Samsung (South Korean brand in the U.S.) Xiaomi, Vivo, etc don't sell phones in the U.S. which makes OnePlus like the ambassador of China in the U.S. market.
@kedvesionutmarian8593
@kedvesionutmarian8593 4 ай бұрын
If they compare it to the Samsung s24 plus it's a lost fight from start that's all .
@andrewtiwari5728
@andrewtiwari5728 4 ай бұрын
@@kedvesionutmarian8593 for the Samsung or OP?
@kedvesionutmarian8593
@kedvesionutmarian8593 4 ай бұрын
@@andrewtiwari5728 OnePlus -Faster charging and better battery -bigger storage and more ram for the price -Camera I would say it's not much of a difference, maybe on zoom level between the two -Samsung would have 1 or 2 years much software update but 90% of both of them are going to ask for change long before that anyway. -Display and sound even. -Build quality a bit better for Samsung for the extra IP rating and cleaner looks but a case would cover it anyway. So I would choose OnePlus just for the battery and charging speed, which for me at least are more important than the camera which it's not much of a difference lately between devices.
@borshisme
@borshisme 4 ай бұрын
​@@kedvesionutmarian8593 OnePlus has a much better tele camera, btw
@samuelventimiglia7327
@samuelventimiglia7327 4 ай бұрын
Juan, you are not helping me stay away from snagging a OP12 by sacrificing my 10Pro. Thank you for the amazing content.
@Sedp23
@Sedp23 4 ай бұрын
I went from the 10 Pro to the 11 and now im getting the 12. The battery life alone is worth the jump to either phone but the 12 gives u the features u have now like wireless charging and a bigger battery
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 ай бұрын
OnePlus 10 Pro can record 4K 120fps. OnePlus 12 CAN'T. 🤣🤣🤣
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 4 ай бұрын
DUMP THAT 8GEN1!!! 😄
@mark5071
@mark5071 4 ай бұрын
@@Sedp23 Getting a new phone every year is kinda stupid.
@andreknudsne7648
@andreknudsne7648 3 ай бұрын
@@Sedp23 and next year there is a 13 that are bigger again..
@RJ_Uploads
@RJ_Uploads 4 ай бұрын
The only thing I know where wireless charging saved me from chunking one of my phones in the garbage was my USB c port stopped working on a phone so it wouldn't charge that way but the wireless charging allowed the phone to still be charged so I could still use it, so basically wireless charging to me is a great backup or a just in case scenario if something happens to a charging port. Great video as always Juan.
@Broski__
@Broski__ 4 ай бұрын
Same exact thing happened to me with a Nexus 5. I had cheapo wireless chargers everywhere. At home, work, even velcro'd to the center console in my car.
@vivekbelvalkar
@vivekbelvalkar 4 ай бұрын
U have no idea how relatable i felt when u mentioned reg. that accidental screenshot when locking the op11. Oneplus really tried to polish these little things HW/SW wise in op12 this time❤
@DRcatscratch
@DRcatscratch 4 ай бұрын
Just so damn hard to screenshot with the new layout. You can't take a screenshot with the buttons holding your phone with your right hand which I do 97% of the time
@vivekbelvalkar
@vivekbelvalkar 4 ай бұрын
@@DRcatscratch yeah u need two hands if u want to get it with right hand.. but u also have Side bar to help
@borshisme
@borshisme 4 ай бұрын
Yes. OnePlus 8 pro had no such issues. Why couldn't they do the same in op 11
@Undeaddeaths
@Undeaddeaths 4 ай бұрын
Hi Juan, did you enable the high performance setting in the battery area on the oneplus 12? The performance is restricted unless you update that setting, which allows the phone to fire on all cylinders.
@joedudley6137
@joedudley6137 4 ай бұрын
Wireless charging is a god send. I have had two phones where the usb port failed but I could keep using the phone via wireless charging!
@CristobalArdon
@CristobalArdon 4 ай бұрын
How its compared the 11 with the 12R? That could be interesting?
@BrianGlaze
@BrianGlaze 4 ай бұрын
Video out 😮. Enough said. I really like what OnePlus is doing. They are the epitome of refinement of their product to fit specific solutions. The tweaks and refinement to the OS in multi-tasking really make "using the phone" better. Not enough OEMs focus on that (including that fruit company).
@EagleS0ng
@EagleS0ng 4 ай бұрын
Random question: what does the back of the phone feel like? Is it anything like the black OP11? Or I wonder if the black version of the 12 will be like the 11 in that regard. I love how the back of the black OP11 feels, and was curious if the green 12 was a different texture or something similar. That's the one bit of information I can't seem to find anywhere. Excellent video, btw
@modal1312
@modal1312 4 ай бұрын
Now, the question is, do I get the gen 2 in the 11 or in the 12r 🤔 You gotta do that comparison!
@manjitmld
@manjitmld 4 ай бұрын
Noticeable improvements!
@DRcatscratch
@DRcatscratch 4 ай бұрын
curious if the 12 has the same pixel stacking as the Open. Yes it may be the same kind of sensor with the 12 being 2mp higher.. but nowhere on Oneplus's website do they mention the 12 having pixel stacking capabilities like the Open does. Curious if the extra 2mp makes up for it not having the pixel stacking, or if it actually does have it. Not sure how that can be checked/tested, no info about it online.
@Alextrino
@Alextrino 4 ай бұрын
The open and 12 don't use the same sensor, open uses LYT-T808, while the oneplus 12 uses LYT-808 (without the T). that means the open has a stacked sensor while OP12 doesn't
@Karllooo
@Karllooo 4 ай бұрын
My last OnePlus phone was the OP7P and I loved it! Only issue I had was the screen burnin I had after 2 years so upgraded to an oppo find X5 pro..... The OnePlus 12 looks like a good upgrade but the Vivo x100 pro also looks intriguing to me🤞I'm so stuck
@meowmixes98
@meowmixes98 4 ай бұрын
I preordered the OnePlus 12 and I think I'm going to be absolutely bonkers for awhile. But I wish the back glass was Gorilla Glass Victus 2 like the front. Gorilla Glass 5 is getting old but it's fine. I do think the OnePlus 13 should copy the Samsung S24 Ultra and get a antiglare coating on the screen. Also, excellent video dude. You keep cranking out the best OnePlus content of all.
@idletime
@idletime 4 ай бұрын
Sweet, thanks for the heads up Juan, that looks nice. For what it is my One+ Nord N200 5g has been a great Workhorse phone and I like it but I didn't realize I was going to be stuck with Android 12 and only security updates even though I bought it new @ T-Mobile / Metro PCS & I'm feeling like it's time to upgrade into something a bit nicer 😋 ..
@acidnut
@acidnut 4 ай бұрын
Is browsing the youtube app and some other apps still limited to only 60hz on the oneplus 12? Not smooth at all. I have a oneplus 11 and this has been a never ending issue.
@chickenandshrimp1338
@chickenandshrimp1338 4 ай бұрын
It's true. I suffer with the same issue. It's not smooth on KZfaq. High performance mode fixes that but battery 🔋 life will drain faster.
@AliXalted
@AliXalted 4 ай бұрын
You can go to screen HZ settings and you can specific choose which app to which HZ.
@acidnut
@acidnut 3 ай бұрын
@@AliXalted Thanks man that fixed it.
@kevinpitts3548
@kevinpitts3548 4 ай бұрын
OP 11 over 12R. I had the 10. Loved the flat panel! Loved it! But the cameras were eh at best. The Hasselblad color science is worth it! If you're the type that doesn't take many pictures, then the 12R is going to be great!
@SilvioBritto
@SilvioBritto 3 ай бұрын
About charging cable / wireless: oh, yeah, totally agree. My Motorola Edge 30 Ultra charges from 0 to 100% in 23 minutes - to 85% in about 15 minutes (125w charger). I couldn't care less for wireless charging. PS: he can change wireless a lot fast if I ever use it (50w).
@buzz1ebee
@buzz1ebee 4 ай бұрын
I've been languishing with a 6t thats on its last legs after years of very heavy use and abuse. The battery lasts about 2 hours, it constant freezes and suffers from app crashes, opening the camera takes up to a minute, and it's permanently stuck in silent mode. They are shipping in my country again so I finally ordered a 12 which should be arriving in 3 weeks or so. I can't wait!!
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 4 ай бұрын
Congrats on the new phone! My mom is on the 6T also. It might be time to upgrade her too 😁
@buzz1ebee
@buzz1ebee 3 ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy it arrived three weeks quicker than the delivery estimate said. It's fantastic! A huge upgrade over my 6t. Had to fiddle with settings to get it looking how I like, but now it's all set up it's an absolute dream to use. The battery is unreal. I'm still on 75% 14 hours after I unplugged it!
@angela-onesroman8873
@angela-onesroman8873 4 ай бұрын
You are the goat my friend, the best detailed breakdown's in the game...👏🙌
@kevinpitts3548
@kevinpitts3548 4 ай бұрын
The only OP 11 vs 12 video I or you need to watch!
@zakuinabox3992
@zakuinabox3992 3 ай бұрын
I just recently got the 11th about a month almost before the 12th and I definitely agree the wireless charging thing while it is fast on the OnePlus is nowhere near as fast as popping the phone on a charging cable for literally 10 minutes to the point where I really don't miss the future all that much. I get all of the features out of my buds Pro 2 with the 11 and the phone handles gaming on stuff like genshin impact and star rail on Mac settings beautifully but it's still makes me wonder, would it be worth trading in the 11 and getting the 12 right now? Like do you think it would be worth spending the 400 bucks that I would still owe to upgrade to the 12 or do you honestly think the 11th is going to be perfectly fine, the temptation of getting the device during this limited window with 500 plus gigabytes of storage for the price of the 256 is very tempting but I just don't know if it's worth upgrading to the 12 if I would honestly never use wireless charging and I don't take photos that often.
@hafidzmartandy9863
@hafidzmartandy9863 2 ай бұрын
Stay with that bro, better wait for 13
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 ай бұрын
Honor Magic 4 Pro released in April 2022 and can do 100 Watt wireless charging (50% in 15 minutes).
@meowmixes98
@meowmixes98 4 ай бұрын
Keep on rocking that Firefox browser!!!
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 4 ай бұрын
I see no reason to stop now 😁
@michaelromanko2255
@michaelromanko2255 4 ай бұрын
its interesting to hear you say that about software being heavy but still being palatable. so why did the public hate LG so much?? They had that issue for a while where the software bogged the phone now but by the Velvet I felt they really improved even from the G8 really
@jeremykurtz9031
@jeremykurtz9031 4 ай бұрын
i like wireless charging because my oneplus 7 pro didnt have it, and evuntally my cord couldnt fit in the port.
@kings_chronicle592
@kings_chronicle592 4 ай бұрын
Always a brilliant take on any review.
@RickyFromVegas
@RickyFromVegas 4 ай бұрын
How does OP12 perform when taking pictures of twitchy people indoors? Like, little children? I feel I'm stuck with Pixel phones right now because I have a toddler and no other phones I've seen takes pictures of moving little humans as well as Pixels do. The way pixel boosts shutter speed when detecting humans moving has saved a lot of otherwise blurry photos for me. I have OP12 pre-ordered after seeing your impression on it, but I'm a bit wary on the little human photos
@Broski__
@Broski__ 4 ай бұрын
I just saw that there is an option to adjust the shutter speed on the 12. So it should be fine.
@Slavo851
@Slavo851 4 ай бұрын
OP has a function of continuous shots when you hold the camera trigger, OP7 also has it If you want a new phone with a fast shutter, buy the Magic 6 PRO because it supposedly has the sharpest photos in motion already in the basic settings.
@Ignacio.Romero
@Ignacio.Romero 4 ай бұрын
I find wireless charging on phones only useful to reverse-wireless charge bluetooth headphones
@rossfortin5641
@rossfortin5641 4 ай бұрын
Just pre-ordered mine 8n the marble. Current phone is a pixel 7a
@thrdeye
@thrdeye 4 ай бұрын
Excellent review.
@gumercindojr.4802
@gumercindojr.4802 4 ай бұрын
Do they send the wireless charger in the same package with the phone????
@rajivratnavale1142
@rajivratnavale1142 4 ай бұрын
No company does that in the whole world. But you do get the wired 100W charger.
@greggski3710
@greggski3710 4 ай бұрын
No, you have to purchase it separately.
@Technocrat.
@Technocrat. 4 ай бұрын
Suprised you have Android 13 still on your OnePlus 11?
@flat-out
@flat-out 4 ай бұрын
I can create great photos in my LG G8...it's not the phone, it's the photographer's skill. Albeit lighting is always the key to good or bad photos.
@jancelabobo8238
@jancelabobo8238 4 ай бұрын
Oh no Juan. You're really selling the Oneplus 12 to me... As a long time Oneplus user who just jumped to a Pixel. I do agree, I miss A LOT of features that matters to me more than what this Pixel offers. It actually angers me that 5g is still blocked in my country. Even the cheapest low end Chinese brands have that on the get go... I dont really want to spend on a phone soon though, so I really hope Oneplus is in this sweet spot one or two years more so i can jump back.
@kforrester3904
@kforrester3904 4 ай бұрын
WIll you be doing any reviews on the OnePlus 12R? How does that compare against the 11 or the 12? Thanks
@power279
@power279 4 ай бұрын
if you want better features..go to op12.. if you wanna save money..op12r. as simple as that😂
@jedolivier2688
@jedolivier2688 4 ай бұрын
It’s basically the base version of the 12. You know, the same with Apple, Google, & Samsung.
@Salty_Biscuitz88
@Salty_Biscuitz88 4 ай бұрын
My guess is the 12r is like an upgraded version of the one plus 11 and a notch below the oneplus 12
@chickenandshrimp1338
@chickenandshrimp1338 4 ай бұрын
The 12r will have lower specs than the OP 11. Go with the 11.
@CalpachinoMrcroner
@CalpachinoMrcroner 3 ай бұрын
​Well I checked the specs and the OP11 has better specs than 12R
@PilotSuperSport
@PilotSuperSport 4 ай бұрын
At 9:14, how is that comparable to anything a pixel can do? Can you add a bokeh effect afterwards? Or move the subject of the image or even delete unwanted things from it and have AI auto fill the empty space? If not, its definitely an area that OP cant even hold a candle to Samsung or Google.
@BarryJohnson
@BarryJohnson 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video Juan. I have been impressed with the Open's cameras so I know I will enjoy the 12.
@Wickiup
@Wickiup 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for a wonderfully honest and logical review. I just suffered through a different reviewers "opinion" of the OnePlus 12 that took ALL of my patience just to watch to the end. I truly enjoy your logic and down-to-Earth sense of humor. 👍 I bought a OnePlus 12, even though I'm writing this on my beloved OnePlus 11, which I am keeping.. not trading in. 👍
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
I think more folks should keep a second phone as a back up and then use the older phone for trade ins. Just don't be like.me collecting a phone museum 😅
@Wickiup
@Wickiup 3 ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yeah, me too! Nothing wrong with a phone museum either, my friend. I used my Motorola Edge Plus 2022 as a trade-in and received $170 for it at OnePlus. It was a gorgeous phone but it has lousy antennas so it didn't bother me a bit to give it up. I won't let go of my OP 11 though. I will keep it in the safe, wrapped in aluminum foil, in case of a CME.. or whatever. 😀
4 ай бұрын
Finally switching from OP7Pro (mentioned, i've smiled holding that 7Pro) i was searching when it comes to smartphones for a year now. And oneplus 12 did it for me. Finally
@lloydfrancis9149
@lloydfrancis9149 3 ай бұрын
Me also enjoy
@WSG-fv9dq
@WSG-fv9dq 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait to get mine next week!!🔥👍💯
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 2 ай бұрын
Congrats on the new phone!
@meowmixes98
@meowmixes98 4 ай бұрын
I bought the black OnePlus 12. But I'd like to see a dark blue or even a burgundy option.
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 4 ай бұрын
Bring back Thunder Purple!!!
@williampickering356
@williampickering356 3 ай бұрын
The oneplus 7 pro is outdated now in a lot of ways, but if they made a spiritual successor I would buy it in a heartbeat. The pop up camera is the best thing they ever did and they dropped it the very next generation.
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
If you make every component on the phone better, but you need to keep costs in check, the first thing to go would be motorized parts.
@williampickering356
@williampickering356 3 ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy I understand that, and I get it's not easy. But it was just so good that I would that compromises elsewhere to keep the pop up camera.
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
That's the situation though. I would MUCH rather have higher performing other parts, and I'll deal with the screen holepunch, than put those costs towards a motorized selfie I RARELY ever use outside video calls. It's a shame we can't support niche consumers better, as we'd have a LOT of other nice options for things like pop up selfie, and hardware keyboards, and gaming/multimedia features, but our phone tech review commentary always seems to dig directly to the lowest common denominator.
@Stonecones
@Stonecones 4 ай бұрын
Apple didn't condition people into having to charge their phone. What made me love wireless charging was when I got my galaxy s7 as my previous phone HTC m8 USB port stopped working so couldn't charge it. It's nice to have two ways to charge it. Be nicer if they went removable battery route but maybe the EU will make that happen one day.
@DavidNgo86
@DavidNgo86 4 ай бұрын
Yeah not to mention it's better for your battery
@MihaiTrica
@MihaiTrica 3 ай бұрын
I am going to continue to watch what OnePlus does with their phones, even though I retired my OP 7T Pro. I would love to learn OnePlus delivers better updates (and a lot more frequently). If they don't artificially keep the latest tools on the latest phones only and do better overall, I may give them another chance when I will change my current phone in 5 years time.
@Brandon_Cash
@Brandon_Cash 4 ай бұрын
I really like what I have seen from Oneplus this go around, but I am having a hard time separating from my Xperia 1 V...
@noly927
@noly927 4 ай бұрын
Good review thanks
@Cameri760
@Cameri760 4 ай бұрын
lol... damn it, this made me finally pull the trigger on a OnePlus 12. I've been with Samsung since 2018 (but my OnePlus 5T is what got me into the Android world) Thanks for not chasing the algorithm, your true, unfiltered opinions are what keep me coming back to your channel!
@JubileeRM
@JubileeRM 4 ай бұрын
I have my S23 Ultra and other phones. I actually find that I’m more interested in the OnePlus 12 over the Galaxy S24 Ultra. I’m seriously considering getting the 12 over the S24U since unlike a lot of reviewers, I’ve seen nothing with the S24 Ultra to gush over.
@fraghead9813
@fraghead9813 4 ай бұрын
You sir, are crazy
@JubileeRM
@JubileeRM 4 ай бұрын
@@fraghead9813 I've owned every Galaxy S flagship and Note flagship from inception and still have the S22 Ultra and S23 Ultra. I never said the OP 12 is better buddy. I said I'm more interested in it. My choice. You sir, are crazy 🤣
@DeAtHvAnGeL
@DeAtHvAnGeL 4 ай бұрын
Same here. I will keep my S23 Ultra, and I'm certainly more interested in the OP 12 than the S24 Ultra. Specifically, since a lot of the S24 Ultra features will be available on the S23 Ultra at some point
@fraghead9813
@fraghead9813 4 ай бұрын
@@DeAtHvAnGeL you sirs are both crazy
@DeAtHvAnGeL
@DeAtHvAnGeL 4 ай бұрын
@@fraghead9813 🤣🤣
@sweedishpie360
@sweedishpie360 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Awesome phone but I really dislike the look of the phone. Looks like a counter top with a huge camera bump. Ended up getting the s24 ultra.
@FAT8893
@FAT8893 4 ай бұрын
For me, the return of USB3 with wired video out is enough for me to take the 12.
@stxmisanthrope
@stxmisanthrope 4 ай бұрын
I bought a pixel 8 pro, and amsatisfied with it. However, OP price point and storage. That alone is swaying me. I recently went on vacation to Nepal, did paragliding etc etc, took videos with my base 128gb model. I had delete old stuff to make room for the new. plus the cameras look great, might be saying goodbye to google really soon. Google followed the big two and might give up market share doing so.
@AimzP
@AimzP 3 ай бұрын
So i recently bought the OnePlus 11.... Kinda wishing id waited for the 12 but overall ive veen happy. I had the 9pro abd the 11 is definitely an upgrade especially in the camera department
@nicolas-emileauger6536
@nicolas-emileauger6536 4 ай бұрын
I can relate for refusing to use a phone that doesn't have wireless charging, but it's not for battery anxiety. It's more for versatility. Since there is only one port, you can't use the port and charge without a lousy dongle.
@gmosc
@gmosc 4 ай бұрын
The idea with OnePlus is that you aren't always charging. Just plug your headphones in and relax. You charged at home just before leaving as you were gathering your keys and stuff. That ten or fifteen minutes gives such a boost that it makes no sense to always be plugged in. I've had 3 OnePlus phones that quick charge. It's a game changer.
@ChristopherPoitras
@ChristopherPoitras 4 ай бұрын
​@@gmosc but having a wireless charger at my desk ensures I don't have to worry about topping up before I leave the house. Fast charging for me is only good on those rare occasions my phone was not charging and I need to leave my house soon. The past year there were two times when I needed fast charging. The 45watt I used for my s23u while not great got the job done.
@gmosc
@gmosc 4 ай бұрын
@@ChristopherPoitras so you've never tried OnePlus charging? Samsung fast charging is not the same. I hope you try it some time. It also helps to know how they keep heat low (lower than wireless charging.) Heat is a major killer of battery life.
@Drakewyrm
@Drakewyrm 4 ай бұрын
"It doesn't feel like a compromise to reach a lower price". In Europe the phone costs 950 or 1000 Euros. Those are flagship prices and they come with flagship expectations.
@Mo-pt7bw
@Mo-pt7bw 4 ай бұрын
OP totally dropped the ball on it's European pricing while simultaneously pricing the phone ridiculously low in North America and it's perplexing. The phone is still overpriced in Europe but would be fair if it had ip68 resistance. But if it were 799 euro it would be the greatest deal in phone history. Such a shame what could've been...
@Remont-pcKievUa
@Remont-pcKievUa 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Mo-pt7bwit has ip68, but not officially. I saw the man was washing it under review and op12 was working great after)
@TheHed94
@TheHed94 4 ай бұрын
I use my OnePlus 6T as a daily driver since it launched, so 5 years and a few months. The battery is not great anymore and so is the performance... so I'm totally gonna swap it for this OnePlus 12... the only thing I hate are the color options... like wtf is that? :D at least give us the white...
@SeptienPatterson
@SeptienPatterson 3 ай бұрын
Juan has the Rec trilogy?! 👀👀⚡
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
I have all four. 👍
@anthonytech
@anthonytech 4 ай бұрын
OP12 is such a good deal. Not a “good for the price” no it’s a real flagship at a bargain price
@SeptienPatterson
@SeptienPatterson 4 ай бұрын
Juan has me in an arm bar. If I was the fence before; I'm not anymore.
@impulsesystems
@impulsesystems 4 ай бұрын
The only thing stopping me from trading in my OP7 Pro for $160-ish is that I am outside the US. This looks really good but I don't need it.
@giovanniecordero4655
@giovanniecordero4655 4 ай бұрын
I just upgraded from my OP7 Pro to the OP Open and I'm really enjoying it so far. The OP12 is probably worth the upgrade IMO coming from the 7pro myself. Love the 7pro but it's dated enough to where if you're on the fence I'd do it.
@Technocrat.
@Technocrat. 4 ай бұрын
It's funny I slow charge my OnePlus 11 on a older 5v charger. But somehow OnePlus manages to suck every drop of power from that slow charger and still charges it really fast. I do have the 80w charger, but I find, when I charge it fast, it drains faster, on slow charge it will stay at 100% most of the day. Like an iPhone.
@BLAKEEATS1988
@BLAKEEATS1988 4 ай бұрын
The best thing about these Chinese phones now is that they have everything but with a cheaper price and if you think that this is cheap now, wait next year I promise a lot of people will still consider this.
@timeattackghost
@timeattackghost 4 ай бұрын
Going from my OnePlus 9 to the 12 so looking forward to it 😅
@borshisme
@borshisme 4 ай бұрын
Op 12 is a great phone. The changes are really noticeable! But I bought OP 11 only 2 months ago, so I'll wate for op 13 or 14. I agree about the cameras. These days it is possible to hear lots of funny things...
@paltrax
@paltrax 4 ай бұрын
You know. I had wireless charging on my lumia 920 in 2012. You know when nobody cared....its NOT a feature i use alot today.
@Technocrat.
@Technocrat. 4 ай бұрын
I paid more for OnePlus 11 5G than I did on my preorder on OnePlus 12 with the Free upgrade to 16gb and 512gb. PLus 10% discount and OnePLus 11 Trade in.
@vandarasharkly5636
@vandarasharkly5636 23 күн бұрын
1+12 is significantly better than the 11 especially the camera but for $200 less I went for the 11
@AlvaroPadilla97
@AlvaroPadilla97 3 ай бұрын
I need oneplus to fix do not disturb, other that been loving my OnePlus 12. Having regrets on not getting the green one after seeing more of it.
@jezuconz7299
@jezuconz7299 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to buy my 12 in 2-3 months time when price comes down😩
@Ezzy1989
@Ezzy1989 4 ай бұрын
Honestly the SD8 gen 2 feels like the actual true successor to the SD865, what i felt to be the most stable and performant all rounder soc. I heard some reviewers mention the 8 gen 3 is indeed more powerful but draws more power and actually throttles down pretty hard. Reminds me of the apple bionic soc's that crush benchmarks but suck at sustained performance.
@Drakewyrm
@Drakewyrm 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it looks like Qualcomm only gets it right once every two years indeed...
@Ezzy1989
@Ezzy1989 4 ай бұрын
@@Drakewyrm right?? Could be 3 years even! The duds that i can recall were the 808 (did anyone say bootloops?) 810 (this thing ran HOT), 820/821 (half decent but ran pretty hot), 888, 8 gen 1 (iffy battery life due to Samsung foundry). Though in their defence the 835/845/855/865 were pretty okay ...
@DavidNgo86
@DavidNgo86 4 ай бұрын
@@Ezzy1989 not to mention Oreo is terrible on the 2016 flagships
@jarjarbinks8954
@jarjarbinks8954 4 ай бұрын
865 was just brilliant. Sustaining it's gpu workload without throttling was a sight to behold. The 8 gen 2 did actually live up. My all time favorite chip would be the 845 though. I still have my oneplus 6 with it. The 8 gen 3 looks to me that Qualcomm did not learn jack shit with the 888 and the 8 gen 1
@Ezzy1989
@Ezzy1989 4 ай бұрын
@@jarjarbinks8954 totally agree. 8 gen 2 seems to be the true successor to the 865 and the 8 gen 3 seems to be a step backwards.. lets see how qc adjusts to apple's innovation coz qc has not been great at implementing new stuff. SD808/810 was their first leap to 64 bit cpu which was an utter failure. SD888/8 gen 1 was on a 4nm process on samsung coz apparently tsmc was fully booked for bionic. Also quite a failure. Based on previous patterns, QC will completely mess up the move to 3nm to compete with the A17 pro bionic.
@gabrielkidder8112
@gabrielkidder8112 4 ай бұрын
I actually like the Corning glass but I see your point
@JD_Manufacturing
@JD_Manufacturing Ай бұрын
This was the review that finally convinced me to trade in my 14pro for the 12. I got 680 for it from Oneplus. Seems generous. No longer impressed with iphones.
@2muchjpop
@2muchjpop 4 ай бұрын
Having the ability to have separate work and personal with something like secure folder is the best implementation IMO. I don't want to have to make separate profiles and switch between them. That's keeping me on Samsung. Yes go ahead, make the jokes 😂
@tfret718
@tfret718 3 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥. Thank you.
@Jonny7082
@Jonny7082 4 ай бұрын
Finally had enough of my one plus 5t. It did a good job but the battery is now at the end of its lifetime. So excited for my New one plus 12
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
You're in for a NICE upgrade. 👍
@Jonny7082
@Jonny7082 3 ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks, your videos helped a lot with the decision
@shafiqazemi96
@shafiqazemi96 3 ай бұрын
Its rebranded to hyperOS now, no longer miui
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
I actually shot this BEFORE that update went live, but I covered it here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtGDZdpl1Nq9g3U.html
@Remont-pcKievUa
@Remont-pcKievUa 2 ай бұрын
Its different OS, not Rebranding)
@Beardalorian
@Beardalorian 4 ай бұрын
I can't wait for my OP 12. My 8T is just done.
@v.bharathkishore5796
@v.bharathkishore5796 4 ай бұрын
Been following you for a decade and your unchanged advocacy for treating technology and advancements fairly by not blindly joining the marketing bandwagon is commendable! However despite your best efforts, we have lost gem of manufacturers like LG and HTC as a result of poor marketing and reviewing. The industry is no longer welcoming radical ideas and is dictated by two or 3 major players who control the marketplace and the media! Is this the end of an open marketplace?
@DavidNgo86
@DavidNgo86 4 ай бұрын
Motorola is basically dead after Google ransacked them for patents.
@Remont-pcKievUa
@Remont-pcKievUa 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@abhisheks8879
@abhisheks8879 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see this video via OnePlus 12😊❤
@lloydfrancis9149
@lloydfrancis9149 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic Review
@ZeDarkLord
@ZeDarkLord 4 ай бұрын
I really like the OP12, personally feel like that it's the next best phone by OP after the 7 series. There, I said it.
@gmosc
@gmosc 4 ай бұрын
Your enthusiasm backed by facts is gonna try to put some hurt on my wallet. This phone crosses a line. (Or two!) It will be the most expensive phone I have ever purchased (but my finances are up to it and I can afford a luxury purchase for myself). Also it will come before I've worn out my present phone. (I hate crossing that line :( though)
@MrKapaV
@MrKapaV 4 ай бұрын
I'm watching this from my 7t pro I'm going for the 12
@levil4012
@levil4012 4 ай бұрын
Think i may be trading my P8P in for this phone.. I've always been a fan of OnePlus phones and software
@Drakewyrm
@Drakewyrm 4 ай бұрын
The 8pro is 3 months old! Why did you decide to buy a new phone instead of waiting 3 months more ? Looks to me that you are just following the hype...
@LOUISVILLECARDINALS
@LOUISVILLECARDINALS 4 ай бұрын
No way i would give up a p8p for OnePlus
@leonardodavinci7425
@leonardodavinci7425 4 ай бұрын
The one plus 12 already looks like phone of the year, looks much better than the S24 ultra.
@fraghead9813
@fraghead9813 4 ай бұрын
You sir are drunk as can be. That phone has a LOT of weird shortcomings and issues
@RAAZR-
@RAAZR- 4 ай бұрын
Only thing with shortcomings here is your brain@@fraghead9813
@zachmasters7397
@zachmasters7397 4 ай бұрын
It's a nice phone yet the S24 ultra shits all over it besides in gaming
@Broski__
@Broski__ 4 ай бұрын
​@@zachmasters7397I hear dat super duper fast charging and battery capacity on those Samsung S24 Ultras is the best on the market.
@leonardodavinci7425
@leonardodavinci7425 4 ай бұрын
So many Samsung knights in my thread LOL
@BigGroupHug
@BigGroupHug 4 ай бұрын
How do you manage the lack of SD card?
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 ай бұрын
You can use a portable SSD if you want ultra fast file transfer speeds or you can use a USB-C to USB-A flash drive from SanDisk which has slower speeds vs a SSD but it offers convenience via easier portability. My friend uses a USB-C to USB-A flash drive to free up space on her S22 Ultra. She takes lots of photos and videos and refuses to pay for cloud storage services. Her files are safely backed up. Micro SD cards are way too slow nowadays vs internal UFS 4.0 storage.
@majtechtings
@majtechtings 4 ай бұрын
Thank you on the charging portion. My open does adaptive charging so at night before i pass out so battery health stays great on that regard and my open lasts on battery life...in the rare instance i need a top up if im going out with my lady or the homies? I'd rather have 67 watt charging/super fast charging over wireless charging. I've heard the "but i dont have to plug anything up!" Or "my phone stays at a high level while working!" First of all...how lazy are y'all? And second of all? these folks are wondering why their battery health is at 87% after a year...probably because it's always sitting on a wireless charger.
@DavidNgo86
@DavidNgo86 4 ай бұрын
Not really. Fast charging actually kills your battery
@alpha-gs2uz
@alpha-gs2uz 4 ай бұрын
​@@DavidNgo86it doesn't, my OnePlus 9 pro after 3 years has 80% battery health and that's with constant fast charging, however I do use a qc charger as my bed side charger, but the dual cells ever since protects from the drawbacks of fast charging, infact it's the higher voltage charging from power delivery that hurts batteries, not the charging that OnePlus does which is pushing more amps at lower voltages, which contributes to lower battery and system heat.
@majtechtings
@majtechtings 4 ай бұрын
@@DavidNgo86 it doesn't. Heat is what can wear a battery out. One plus puts all the heat in the cable and the brick itself. Couple that with adaptive charging and you have a battery that lasts longer. Touch the back of your phone after you wirelessly charge it and what do you feel? Heat. From a coil that takes up more space and rests on top of the battery.
@DavidNgo86
@DavidNgo86 4 ай бұрын
@@majtechtings trust me fast charging is bad .
@DavidNgo86
@DavidNgo86 4 ай бұрын
@@alpha-gs2uz my S6 Edge bad battery due to fast charging
@mikecrabtree8200
@mikecrabtree8200 4 ай бұрын
The OnePlus 12r is more like a Nord 3 then it is an 11
@L1ven
@L1ven 4 ай бұрын
Yep, OP cameras have been really good for years and I would say in most scenarios it can beat Samsung and Apple by a mile. Most of the people are just lazy and camera should work just by point and click...
@EmilBozhilov
@EmilBozhilov 4 ай бұрын
review nord 3!
@davidburns8113
@davidburns8113 4 ай бұрын
Only apple has the gooder ux juan. Apple magic or something
@jevonsims900
@jevonsims900 4 ай бұрын
Tech reviewers on KZfaq act like they're frightened to do Pixel 8 Pro vs OnePlus 12 videos for some reason🤷
@SuperUzbekbola
@SuperUzbekbola 4 ай бұрын
Ordered oneplus 12 in 16/512 black. Current phone is pixel 8pro
@ParsaMoshiri
@ParsaMoshiri 4 ай бұрын
Literally in the same boat. I go back and forth on whether or not I should keep my order.
@giovanniecordero4655
@giovanniecordero4655 4 ай бұрын
I just switch from my 7pro to the open, love it so far so I know the 12 is going to be killer
@Sedp23
@Sedp23 4 ай бұрын
Battery life alone will make u forget about Pixel
@brianmiranda6262
@brianmiranda6262 4 ай бұрын
Going from the 14 pro max to the same 16/512 Black !
@fraghead9813
@fraghead9813 4 ай бұрын
​@brianmiranda6262 welcome to the dark side my friend 🙌
@BAJF93
@BAJF93 4 ай бұрын
Will you get the Oppo Find X7 Ultra?
@CedricOwens
@CedricOwens 4 ай бұрын
😂 My discord message made the video!
@davidburns8113
@davidburns8113 4 ай бұрын
I legit don't know what Samsung is offering besides dex anymore
@consciousgentile5141
@consciousgentile5141 4 ай бұрын
AI voodoo
@Sedp23
@Sedp23 4 ай бұрын
Nothing
@fraghead9813
@fraghead9813 4 ай бұрын
The best features a phone can offer, that's what.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 ай бұрын
Motorola Ready For > Samsung Dex.
@gabrielkidder8112
@gabrielkidder8112 4 ай бұрын
Saves the charge port
@SomeGadgetGuy
@SomeGadgetGuy 3 ай бұрын
Save the charge port by wearing out the battery faster? 😅
@gabrielkidder8112
@gabrielkidder8112 3 ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy isn't charging the phone with wireless charging be better for lithium batteries anyway. Yeah it's slower. But I personally get by with 30w charger for my OnePlus 8. It served me well for four years. I plan on getting the 12 because they offered me $200 for my OP 8, and 50w wireless charging would be great. Being nobody else on the market has it.
@Yos115
@Yos115 4 ай бұрын
Love the OnePlus 12 😁
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