Yeah, the could of made the names a bit different. Everything sounds the same and confuses alot. A shame really....

Agreed. I think they could have used a different naming convention to make it easier to understand

I made it about 15 hours with those obnoxious words and then just couldn't take it anymore.

Drew *Dies again, even with auto life active*

Yea I wanted to give this game a shot even though I've quit twice. I got to the first battle with the priest couldnt win and said fuck this game. I'm just watching the summary so I can move on to part two.

Super Iroquois Snake Use Lightning, Sahz, and Vanille with the Hero's Charge paradigm (Commando, Synergist, Medic). If all of Sahz's buffs are active, switch to Diversity (Commando, Ravager, Medic) so Sahz can hit too. Aim for the heads between the pauldrons and the main head and use blitz as Lightning. When only the central head remains, switch to Relentless Assault (Commando, Ravager, Ravager) and just do whatever to kill it. Switch to Diversity if you need to heal, or Hero's Charge if you need to reapply the buffs. Tbh, the first fight with Barthandelus and the fight with Cid both gave me more trouble than the final boss, so if you farm properly and level up your gear, you won't have much problem through the rest of the game afterwards.

Super Iroquois Snake i believe u dont know that u need to destroy other part of him before attacking the main head. Destroy his other part of bodies then its become easy. I need to retry 3 times until i realize about this

I finished 13 and 13-2 and didn't remember shit about the story until I watched this.

It's still convoluted as fuck

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The overall story isn't as bad as some people think I think, but the dialogue in some parts is not super good. Hope was one of the most annoying FF characters in my mind in the fist game. I rate this game a 7/10, but FFXII-2 IS a solId to me. I would say that 13-2 has some of the hardest to beat enemies in FF that you could try to beat. I think Both these games have good sountracks though.

TBF They didn't know Eden and Orphan also wants the world to burn lol, but at least they did save the people of the Cocoon.

yeah

Same problem with ffxv

@@dantemiles689 XV was awesome

@@zacatkinson3926 As someone who was hyped for it and followed its development for 15 years I can tell you no it's not. 1. Even after 15 years of development the story released incomplete then they released DLC to replace the missing story, they didn't release the last 2 DLCs so it remains incomplete. 2. The world is beautiful but its so huge that walking around it is boring. They said this was for realism but realistically speaking if I had the ability to teleport I would use it but Noct doesn't outside of combat. 3. Instead of feeling like a road trip with the boys it feels like a gay boy band simulator who talk about being models, taking selfies, and dresses. 4. Most of the characters are stale and boring hell his wife is the worst she's included so little that there's no reason to care about her. 5. Things that were promised were not in the final version. 6. Despite having a rich lore where a war is going on we get boring side quests like fetch stones, look at frogs and take pictures. They had the perfect building blocks for good side quests and still messed it up. Most of them are fetch quests and because it's boring to walk around all you get is boring. 7. It has a good story but it was told so poorly Most people wouldn't even notice 8. You can't just buy season pass you need to buy multiple DLC packs which is scummy. The only thing I enjoyed was the combat, they had the perfect setup and 15 years to get it done and still failed

@@dantemiles689 It wasn't told poorly at all, the characters had personality, cmon dude all 4 of them were distinct

Same the music is a master piece

Hamauzu did one flipping good job on this! Incidently, I thought XIII-2 was even better somehow!

It isnt that bad just streched especially with the fact that the party pretty much meets up in like end of the second act , from pulse it's great that too they wasted a lot of time , they could have made it shorter by 10 hours or brought in new things. I'd say solid 8/10 a lot of people say it to be hard, honestly i thought it's one of the easiest FF

@@anantdhyani2882 i agree my man

yes, i love the sound track )after ff10 soundtrack btw), but hate the gameplay.

Square Enix’s writing has been going downhill after they hit their peak with CHRONO Trigger and FF7. The only exceptions being FF10,FF12 and the promise of what FF15 could’ve been if they had focused the whole story on the game and not tried to push some shit movie and an also shit anime that nobody wanted to fucking watch. I think FF15’s biggest problem was how much time the game and story spent in development, it got too big. If they had just focused and streamlined the narrative and only made a video game, what they’re good at! Then it would’ve been an incredible game

@@thedeepfriar745 the issue with final fantasy 15 is that it wasn’t even supposed to be 15. It got rewritten and scraped, it used to final fantasy 13 versus

@@thedeepfriar745 also, even though final fantasy 14 is an mmo, it has one of the best final fantasy stories to date.

It's the first game in a trilogy. Obviously not everything will be explained immediately.

It is

The real irony is the evil priest for me.

Not funny

I get it :)

#hallwaySimulator

You say it because the game is linear? 🤭 it has its non linear moments though

LRFFXIII is the worst in my opinion. I had it since it came out and i never finished it due to its horrible gameplay (by that i don,t mean the fights, but just the time limit, not allowing me to explore the world and pay attention to small details, and always having an impression of rushing) I almost finished it but i went too fast and now i have days with nothing to do until the end. Unlike FFXIII where i have 200h of gameplay or FFXIII-2 where i have more than 500h, i only have like...24h on LRFFXIII... it's really a shame for the price it came out :/ The story is good, but gosh the gameplay ruined it for me If you finished it, please tell me how the final fight goes, i'm curious about that, and i'd also be curious about your thoughts on it

that's because this video didn't do any analysis , its just a summary of what happened.

no, it's because the narrative in this game is ridiculously convoluted.

no kingdom hearts is compliacted but still most can understand it...this is just crack head storys

I thought it was easy to understand, there's only two factions. Cocoon and Pulse, now all you have to understand is the characters which are well developed and written. FFXII had more than I can even remember all their freakin names. (not that I dislike XII just making a point). Even X is harder to understand what with (spoilers) Tidus being real but not real and maybe not disappearing but maybe will when they destroy Sin.

No that's only if you don't play the game. The story is actually much simpler than people like to admit, Let me simplify it even further by removing the complicated terms that require people to read datalogs. Once upon a time there was a "One God", this god created a planet and with the help of many other gods and demons. Life was born in this planet and it evolved, however at one point in time this "One God" left the world and gods and demons clashed, gods created an artificial satelight above planet and took most people living on the planet, there. While the people that were left on the surface, recieved the protection of demons and fought to keep themselves independant. After this separation, the planet had grown wild and creatures forther evolved into monsters, and survival depended on being strong, the weak becoming food for the strong or more evolved. The gods instructed the humans living in their satelight to completely forget about the planet and that anything that comes from there represents nothing but death and misery. And for centuries people learned to hate the planet and anything related to it. Then after society had been estabilished, technology developed and empires had been founded on the satelight, the demons sent envoys to do a mission for them on the satelight. These envoys, go do their thing but while they are doing it the come in contact with a boy living in the satelight, that boy ends up being chosen as an envoy too but he has no way of knowing that, the envoys managed to complete what they had to do, and with their success they are left to rest but being crystalized, sadly the boy suffered the same fate, much to a a troubled father's dismay. Elsewhere the govern had become corrupt and a couple of sister's had been torn apart by their social standing. The older sister choose to become a soldier and fought daily to feed the family of two, while the young sister was convinced by a common childhood friend to enter a rebel group and deal with whatever the government has been doing to certain people at the time(I'll have you play the game to see what this is all about, or the text will become much bigger). In time, the troubled Father tries everything to save his kid, traveling around the world, he gets involved with the Older sister when she is sent to fight against the rebel group, only to find out what the government had been doing behind everyone's back, as soon as these people find each other, the demons once again move and choose them to become their envoys, at the same time the two envoys who were initially sent to the Satelight start moving again, and so the entire world becomes their enemy(they are hated servants of the demons after all) This is pretty much what's happening in the story. Just change demons, envoys and Gods, with their respective Pulse Fal'cie, L'cie and Cocoon Fal'cie terms, and everything will become clear. Oh yeah and the "One God" is called the Maker, he made the Fal'cie I'll stop here because more than this and i'll be a spoiler. Let me just say that our characters are only puppets, losing their right to live the moment they were chosen, only to fight the puppets following the Fal'Cie on the other side, in a quest to purge the strings that bind them and earn their freedom. You don't actually need to read everything in the datalog, after you understand certain concepts most other terms can be understood by just following the story. There's even a moment in which Sahz the "Troubled Father" cuts Lightning short a mentioning that regardless of what term she uses to describe her function, she's still a soldier, which shows that these terms are easier to understand then people think.

That's fair. It's just something to consider as a developer. There shouldn't be a requirement of an in game dictionary, but as far as the characters in the game not needing exposition, that makes since. Until reading that though, I hadn't really considered that it's usually common for you to play a character that is thrown into new world (FFX) or adopts a new and sudden role in that world that they never knew the ins and outs of, so it makes sense for someone to explain it for them and you as the player.

1. Because Orphan HIMSELF wanted to die, and leaving him alone would've just prolonged the mass-murder-suicide. 2. The same entity that forced Fang out of Ragnarok a thousand years ago intervened. The entity's identity is revealed in the sequel. 3. Said entity also freed the gang from crystal. But Fang and Vanille needed to stay within the crystal pillar to stop Cocoon from going "end of the dinosaurs" on Pulse. 4. As was already explained by Cid in the game, he and his fellow fal'Cie were dissatisfied with their existence, and killing everyone on Cocoon along with themselves would (they thought) summon their Maker who would reset everything. 5. The answers to that lie in the deeper mythology of the XIII series.

1. Because Orphan likely wouldn’t have let them go out of that room in the first place. He was going to force one of them to become Ragnarok no matter what because he wanted Cocoon gone. 2. The goddess of death Etro interfered from the unseen realm and changed all of them back because she took pity on them. Etro is known to have an affinity for humanity unlike the other gods Pulse and Lindzei. 3. The same happens at the end, Etro takes Lightning and everyone else out of crystal stasis as she felt bad for them. She likely didn’t do the same for Fang and Vanille because they were literally apart of the crystal pillar holding Cocoon up. 4. Barthandelus wanted to kill Orphan and drop Cocoon because all of the Cocoon Fal’Cie wanted to meet their “maker,” and they believed the only way to do that was go to the unseen realm where Etro was because the Fal’Cie thought that’s where the Maker fled to when they left. In order to get to the unseen realm, they needed millions of deaths to open Etro’s gate wide enough to go through themselves. 5. They don’t know what the Maker wants. It was out of desperation (at least that’s what I think) that Barthandelus orchestrated the destruction of Cocoon. The Cocoon Fal’Cie wanted to see their maker because they were tired of being stagnant and unable to grow like humans.

No one dislikes turn based

@@pogman3982 A lot of people dislike turn based. Look at the comments for Yakuza 7

@@pogman3982 I dislike turn based, I hate it actually that’s why I’ve never played any final fantasy before XV. And that’s also why I’m watching these recapitations of all the stories

Aguila701 Yes, among other things. How did that even happen? Was it their focus? If so who gave it to them and when? Didn't they wake up from a crystallized state once already? How come they became humans again after this to sacrifice themselves again in the sequels? Note that this is only about two of the characters and doesn't even touch on how idiotic the rest of the characters' stories are.

this game isn't even that complex, the whole story is told in a very shitty way.

u might be interested in kingdom hearts

I think that was the point

What about FF7? needs a lot of spin offs to understand the main plot XD

@@RubenRamirez666 What? how so? FF7 tells you everything you need to know for the story. The spinoffs (sequels and prequels) are just there to fill out the world more. Like Crisis Core, we didn't need it by any means, but it shows us what happened clearly rather than through memories. It also expands on who Zach is. We didn't need to know what kind of guy he was, but it adds to the experience of FF7.

@@RubenRamirez666 atleast not like kingdom hearts u need ps2,psp,ps4,3d,3ds,mobile devices to understands the story ,thank god we can watch the walktrough and cutscence in youtube . and guess what upcoming games on switch ! HAHAHAH

+Aguila701 I guess some are into BEING crap. I'm not a big fan of 13, but others have their own opinions

I agree! FFXIII gets alot of shit. I'm sorry FFXIII wasn't a carbon copy of games we've seen in the past. The plot was focused people thrown into a situation where they were basically guilty by association with an underlying theme that shapeshifters had infiltrated and manipulated human government. It was a huge conspiracy. You were on the run and in no way in that game did I feel like they could chill out and explore a town, when they tried it ended badly. Final Fantasy XII was much more open than Final Fantasy XIII but I also feel like the story, gameplay and dialouge are dull as shit in XII by comparison. I loved the on the run feel within XIII and the game did open up and have a slew of endgame content. I wish the sequels never existed but that's about it FFX and it's towns were linear as fuck and I love that game. After the first 18 hours and you get to pulse there are much more open areas and parts that branch out more than. You were just trying to survive, you were branded with dark powers and intended to be a destroyed against your will by beings trying to play puppet master. This is coming from a guy with about 400 hours on both FFX and FFXIII, respectively. Why am I comparing FFX to FFXIII? Because so many of the "problems" people have with XIII can be found in X. The first few hours of FFVII is a few slashes and an occasional potion and bolt. Because the opening of FFXIII gets so much shit for it. Again, sequels were absolute garbage because FFXIII had no cliff hanger, only because I was really attentive to that universe you actually find out that there were hundreds to thousands of Fal'Cie shapeshifters lodged within the human government aside from Barthandalus. They could've had humans and Fal'Cie continue to fight and obscure the whole concept of the purge around until that fight drew the attention of the creator like the Fal'Cie intended to do with Ragnarok. Buuut. They didn't. To be completey fucking honest I like the original FFXIII more than FFX and I fucking love FFX. I couldn't compare FFVII to FFXIII until I see an HD remake, FFVII had more exploration but only because the world allowed it.

+Talon Marshall I loved the world and story of 13, I didn't dislike the combat but I got a little bored of cause you could just autobattle everything aside from boss fights if you wanted. I just find it funny people bash a game that is based on story soley on its combat. I don't think I've honestly played a FF I didn't like at all.

WonOneWun​​​ I loved FFXIII but it isn't perfect. The combat lacks depth, you won't get an argument out of me here. You can't switch who you control in battle, and if the party leader dies it's auto fail. Hate that, you can phoenix down the other two, but not yourself? It puts more focus on auto battling and once you get to pulse, grinding. I always grinded in Final Fantasy but it's more important there due to the lack of depth. There are things you can do, you can change the battle speed to slow, and set the default to abilities to auto battle in the settings to make up that time for actual selections. Paradigm switching and grinding are prevalent in it's in game content but the combat does lack depth. The sad thing is though, is that even though I can't command the other two in my party outside if paradigms they're smarter than most people I PUG with in FFXIV. Sad, but it damn sure is true. Between the combat lacking depth, Hopes character, and Tetsuya Nomura's hypersexuslized costume design the game irks me. I like chicks in miniskirts but the design is borderline porn star while the writing is completely devoid of any sexual dialouge to keep that teen rating. I also understand the complaints about linearity but FFX gets a free pass? Ugh. 

i also want to add that i love the music.

AGothicFairyTale IMHO, as long as you like it, that's the only opinion that matters when it comes to preferences. Games are about having fun, and some people take critical and commercial appeal far too seriously.

+AGothicFairyTale stupid question, was 13 the first one you played as well as owned? just curious

The first Final Fantasy Game I played was 10 and it was my friends.He brought it over one day and we played it for a while. 13 is the first one that I actually bought and completed.

Thats cool, everyone I know says their favorite FF game is the first they played, mine is FF4, that story just hits home for me, and also the first I played lol

I have a few favorites but I think 13 is my most favorite because of 13-2 and Lightning Returns.

+Daniel L Yeah that was what drew me out of the game. I really enjoyed it, but found the story very hard to follow because of all these foreign terms. I didn't know what the sanctum was or what the hell an Orphan is until I watched this video. Still not sure if I understand lol.

+Sean M Sanctum was Cocoon government meant to put a human face on their actual captivity. Orphan was the fal'cie god granted the power to keep Cocoon running and direct the course of its existence. Bart was its agent that listened to the pain of Orphan and tried to have it killed, so that everyone on Cocoon would die (something normally against fal'cie programming to happen), so that the Gate of Etro would open and the Maker/Lindzei would notice this, who would then determine that this world is finally failure so it could be recreated (Orphan would be killed and Bart would have been alive in order to meet his Maker and join him in a New World).

It's not that bad if you break it down. Fal'Cie: Powerful creatures with vast magical abilities whose job is to keep order in the world. L'cie: Humans who are branded by a Fal'Cie, they are given increased magical and physical abilities in order to complete a focus (a mission) given to them by the Fal'Cie who branded them. Cie'th: Former L'cie who failed or didn't complete their focus and turned into monsters who lash out at anyone that comes near them, human, L'cie or otherwise. Cie'th stones: When a Cie'th is left alone long enough, it eventually loses its strength and power and turns into a stone, with its focus still branded into it. Other L'cie can access these stones and choose to complete the Cie'th focus for them, allowing them to crystallize. Pulse is the original planet made by the creator on which the Fal'cie and the humans originally lived. When the humans started warring among each other too much, the Fal'Cie in a desperate effort to keep control over them made Cocoon and took most of the people up there. Eventually, after many centuries, people forgot what Pulse really was and it became like a legend to them, as the Cocoon Fal'cie continuously brainwashed the people of Cocoon into believing that anything from Pulse was the enemy and needed to be destroyed.

I don't mind with term like fal'cie and l'cie. What confuse me is they use many common word (Focus, Cocoon, Cavalry, Sanctum, Orphan, etc) and use it as their own term. So every dialogue is ambiguous to me

@@kleberson777 that, my friend, is called localization sickness. If you play in Japanese, most names are better.

mark o Autobots...ROLLOUT! Brynhildr was the reject lol

It’s really not though

@@BigBoss-sh2jx people are just dumb asses. You literally see people say the entirety of the Witcher series is amazing but it’s story sucks ass until Witcher 3

You're right!

Then I suppose we don't agree lol

LOL

+Samanosuke1138 I agree with you sir! I loved these games. Square did something different, and I loved it. I got 9 ways to play turn based combat, 10 and 13 are just creative ways to tell a compelling story in the Final Fantasy Universe :)

Very compelling storytelling. Also, what most people don't understand is that virtually all final fantasy games were linear. extremely linear. The presentation is different, but still the same game and if it were in a 3rd person perspective, it would play the same too. Heck most of the Side Missions didn't even happen until Pre Final boss anyway. This game did nothing different really than any other game in the franchise other than put the side missions in the post game so you can enjoy the narrative as its meant to be. I mean, if I was going to turn into a C'ieth, I wouldn't be dicking around in Taejin's Tower or some crap lol..I would be trying to complete my focus.

+fgeo97 GuitarVids I don't know if you're trying to troll me or what, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you aren't so I can give you a well worded response. And it will likely be TL, but worth reading. To inform you, my "research" is exhaustive, but I'll really only note that the most important bits include that I have played and completed (minimum 2x) all Final Fantasy numbered titles, save for II, III (at the final dungeon), XI, and XIV. Actually, I'm currently in replay of IV, V, and LRFFXIII, so, to make a harsh statement without knowing anything about me, or my argument for the game, was kinda dumb on your part. Moving on, when I stated that virtually all games are linear like XIII, the keyword was VIRTUALLY. I'm well aware of XII's very open world approach similar to that of an MMO. But because of that, the story suffered vastly and the characters came off as very bland and lacking any real depth (Vaan is who the game "centers around" and he's not even the main character for crying out loud!!) I'm glad you find it hilarious that people would defend 13, but that's because people actually enjoyed it. Just because you didn't doesn't give you the right to take apart their analysis of the game, but I digress. So, my "insult..." Ok lets look at Final Fantasy VII, a game so revered, it's getting a full on remake (which, by the way, looks exactly like FF 13 and from what I can see will play exactly like it, and be episodic like it.) Flow of the game in a nutshell: Mako reactor-sector 7-mako reactor-sector 5-sector 6-sector 7-shinra building-kalm-chocobo farm (first technical sidequest if you farm the money to rent a stable and get the shitty chocobos that are available at the time)-mine-junon-costa del sol-juno-corel-gold saucer-cosmos canyon-nibelheim-rocket town-back to gold saucer-temple-city of the ancients. Disc 1. This is a very linear storytelling path. You acquire vehicles to get you to and from places from time to time with very little room for deviation as it slows down the narrative. Most every Final Fantasy does not open up the deviation paths until the end of the game when you just have to fight the final boss. Chrono Trigger was also like this and it has a ridiculous amount of side quests. Final Fantasy 6 is also very linear. 4 is very linear. They give you just enough to progress the narrative, but I don't know what I'm talking about. Now I'm going to break down your points: 1. Hallway-typically when you walk through a city or an alley and when the game is presented in a behind the NPC 3rd person view, it is perceived as a hallway. This is not relevant as it is common in a plethora of games. 2. The Characters-this is subjective. This may be a reason for YOU to not like the game, but not a reason to dismiss others. 3. Every FF is linear. I clearly stated most. But if you follow your own advice and DO YOUR RESEARCH, you'll clearly see what I'm talking about. 4. You don't have to auto-battle....you don't. so there's not much else to say about that. It will make the game more challenging, but you don't have to auto-battle. You can pick commands like any other FF game. 5. The story fits the hallway. Presentation is everything. This game is presented in the way that say....Action films are presented in theaters. Your character is always on the run. No time for anything, because they have something to do that's time sensitive. the story fits the presentation. 6.The battle system is better than 12. That also is subjective. While I loved 12's battle system, by the end of the game, i was just using the left analog stick to run around and my characters did the fighting for me. I was just watching the movie...so you are way more active in it in 13 and it requires constant tweaks for every battle and every situation. So I give the crown to 13 in this match up. Side note, FF10 is a hallway but you see it from an isometric point of view. There is stuff to do on the side........... at the end of the game when you get the Airship because...story matches presentation. And the battle system is ATB/TB hybrid....to say its the best is subjective also....so not a relevant fact or a reason to tear down my comment... k. bye.

I think there was. The original idea and my headcanon is that the maker actually returned trough the gate and saw all the chaos his Fal'Cie did and decided to fix it by ressurecting the L'cie back to normal.

Let me try and summarize. basically the group gets cursed brands to destroy the small planet in the sky by an evil god and are given a time frame in which to do it. The irony being that the evil god is supposed to be the people's protector, a priest. He wants to destroy the planet as a sacrifice to get the makers attention to rebuild the planets... I think. The group says uh uh. we're gonna save the small planet no matter what the cost but still ends up destroying the planet. Dwl 😂

Let me try and summarize. basically the group gets cursed brands to destroy the small planet in the sky by an evil god and are given a time frame in which to do it. The irony being that the evil god is supposed to be the people's protector, a priest. He wants to destroy the planet as a sacrifice to get the makers attention to rebuild the planets... I think. The group says uh uh. we're gonna save the small planet no matter what the cost but still ends up destroying the planet. Dwl 😂

Agreed. The number of terms that the writers ask players to keep track of right from the start is absurd.

Story- pure shite

@@michelhanson1500 thanks, that helps a lot. so cocoon is the sky planet right?

Can't say I disagree. Final Fantasy XV is much better but that's not saying much because the narrative is still crap.

Who's gonna go through and edit every instance of them using the word l'CIe or fal'Cie and replace it with something that's not obnoxious sounding?

Yeah. Wants you ascertain it, it's really. It throws you in the shit in this giant metropolis. The political manipulation and shape shifting demi-god theme is actually really good. FFXIII gets alot of shit. I'm sorry FFXIII wasn't a carbon copy of games we've seen in the past. The plot was focused people thrown into a situation where they were basically guilty by association with an underlying theme that shapeshifters had infiltrated and manipulated human government. It was a huge conspiracy. You were on the run and in no way in that game did I feel like they could chill out and explore a town, when they tried it ended badly. It was a futuristic Utopia, the fact that shopping was done on kiosks, AKA online didn't kill the immersion for me. Final Fantasy XII was much more open than Final Fantasy XIII but I also feel like the story, gameplay and dialouge are dull as shit in XII by comparison. I loved the on the run feel within XIII and the game did open up and have a slew of endgame content. I wish the sequels never existed but that's about it FFX and it's towns were linear as fuck and I love that game. After the first 18 hours and you get to pulse there are much more open areas and parts that branch out more than. You were just trying to survive, you were branded with dark powers and intended to be a destroyed against your will by beings trying to play puppet master. This is coming from a guy with about 400 hours on both FFX and FFXIII, respectively. Why am I comparing FFX to FFXIII? Because so many of the "problems" people have with XIII can be found in X. The first few hours of FFVII is a few slashes and an occasional potion and bolt. Because the opening of FFXIII gets so much shit for it. Again, sequels were absolute garbage because FFXIII had no cliff hanger, only because I was really attentive to that universe you actually find out that there were hundreds to thousands of Fal'Cie shapeshifters lodged within the human government aside from Barthandalus. They could've had humans and Fal'Cie continue to fight and obscure the whole concept of the purge around until that fight drew the attention of the creator like the Fal'Cie intended to do with Ragnarok. Buuut. They didn't. To be completey fucking honest I like the original FFXIII more than FFX and I fucking love FFX. I couldn't compare FFVII to FFXIII until I see an HD remake, FFVII had more exploration but only because the world allowed it.

Don't Ctrl-C Ctrl-V your posts. I was tired enough of seeing it the first time.

@SNBeast tbh he has a well written comment, letting more people see it isn't a bad thing. No one is forcing your poor tired eyes to read it.

Underrated by morons are retards, so who cares. It was a success in showing how extremely fast-paced, challenging and driven a RPG can be. That's why this franchise is so much above the rest: they try something new with every title, and actually take the risk of not pleasing the masses - including their own fanbase - all for the sake of always making better games.

You're crap. Hope people with actual taste will present themselves when square's next big rpg hits the scene.

I agree, I think most the hate is undeserved. Every once in a while ideas latch on and gullible ppl latch onto it and band together as if it's some sort of tribal bonding ritual. Unfortunately FFXIII was caught in that as the people that enjoy XIII seem to really enjoy it and the people that don't seem to all repeat the same things in the same way. I guess I could hope for a better world where more people think for themselves and judge content for it's own worth and if they don't like it then fine, but at least give a non regurgitated reason. People hate some things just to try to score cool points and it has been that was for FF for a while now and it's really dumb. It's like that with a lot of popular game companies by default now too, it's sad. No matter if the game is good or not, hating became in and cool. Which is idiotic. At least it makes it easy to spot ppl I don't care to associate with and it's on the way out.

@keffypoo the only thing i'll disagree is that Final Fantasy is above the rest. Star Ocean, the Chrono series(Yes I loved Cross too), the Mana series(both Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu III which I'd do anything to have a remake or a port released here, including Legend of Mana and Sword of Mana), Tales of series, Suikoden(on of the best Konami titles ever), Wild Arms series, the classic Phantasy Star, and Dragon Quest. Every one of this series is a serious competitor for best J-RPG, even the poor Breath of Fire, which was murdered by Capcom for no reason and Grandia series which died out for, once again, no reason.

...or maybe you're just not intelligent enough. Seeing how the FFX plot was incredibly bad - but very easy to understand - I think it's safe to say you're the problem, here.

keffypoo X's plot was good and makes sense so does XII FF8 had a trash storyline though

@@keffypoo X's story was good but nothing crazy. I agree it's not Square Enix that's the problem

yeah you're right... unfortunelly, I would love to see that though :/ I really love the trilogy

+Chris Sorreda FFXII is criminally underrated. Too hard for the general FF fans to understand. For a game that big with no lags and bugs, that's something to be appreciated.

+Ndoelicious Too hard? Nu-uh. It's not too hard. It just requires fuck load of MMORPG style grinding and that's boring as fuck especially because the game was designed so that it will play itself. Wanna know how I spent all of my boss battles? Running in circles to regain enough MP to heal my useless companions!!! w00 what fun...

+Chris Sorreda Yeah, FFXII has one of my favorite plots of all the Final Fantasy games.