Yeah, it's like heroin for bad writers.

Joshua Richardson yup check out the new ff7r with sephi time travelling

I’m listening to the first minute, time travel, my brain immediately turns off. Glad I didn’t play this one

@@julioromero238 Ok lol

??? She talk about snow countless of time at the beginning what do you mean ? And then during her adventure would you always talk about you fiancé? It will be a bit weirn ain'it

@@khiem8488 yeah I agree. If anything she NEVER stops talking about him. But through the game, she realizes that she worries too much about Snow and that he’s capable of protecting himself so she tries to focus on only what she can do atm

I see your point, but I also deeply appreciate this game's resistance to romanticizing a male/female protagonist duo. It would've gotten old and tired if they'd done ANOTHER game where the growing romance was intimately tied up with the rest of the story. From one perspective, it can look like she's uncaring, but also love isn't everything. She's her own person too.

I agree

Nope. My first Square Enix Game was kingdom hearts 358/2 days. Then KH BBS, THEEEEN Final Fantasy 13. And let me just say, this is an example of gamers being over-dramatic about not liking a new game because it wasn’t familiar to what they expect from the FRANCHISE. As a stand alone, the games are literally fine for their era. 13-2 really holds up in my opinion over time, but it lacks the immediate icon-ability that makes it easy for people to mindlessly “final fantasy ooh ahh” at.

Ironically, ff 14 is INCREDIBLY difficult to follow if you don’t take in hundreds of hours of dialogue in full… whereas 13 requires like an hour or two of data-logue entries. Which people complained about. Albeit, you have to go out of your way for the full story. I see 13 as a demo, and 13-2 as a more fine tuned demo

Bro I was confused in pt one

@@sketchtheparadigmyork1217😂wrong loser

No

You mean: hold my beer in multiple different timelines

+Oni Black Mage Sorry to hear :( This was really terrific content - I've beaten both FFXIII and FFXIII-2 but years ago now. Never played lightning returns but just got for my PC. Thanks for putting in all this effort!!!! Hope you don't run into any further copyright shenanigans.

Honestly this is the first time I ever heard Square C.claimed someone. They were always pretty chill about it.

Oni Black Mage Fuckin' Nazis.

I know this is old, but maybe it's because of the background music? Do they ever give you a reason as to why it's claimed?

I hope you won.. Your previous comment was a year ago, it's stupid why companies would block contents like this. It's free advertisement of beautiful games. Sheesh. These videos made me buy all the games, they should be paying you.

you bastard

Because pulse was not safe to stay on as in noels future

+Daniel Cappuccio Thanks for watching. Let's see, if the characters did nothing, then, speaking 4th dimensionally, my guess is that Cocoon, with its fal'cie and humans on board would, all die due to Fang/Vanille turning into Ragnarok and ending things. If Etro intervened again, then Fang/Vanille would crystallize again and the Cocoon fal'cie would try something else to kill them. So let's assume their plan eventually works and Cocoon falls and dies. That still leaves the Pulse fal'cie alive, as well as Yuel and Caius who are both immortal, and Etro would still be alive, albeit very sad. Since there was no need to mess with time via Chaos to save the party, the events of FF13-2 would never happen since there is no society of humans to fight for survival, and Caius wouldn't be mad at Yuel dying due to time paradoxes. If anything, Yuel might die even less often with no humans around. Because Caius doesn't try to freeze time, he would continue protecting Yuel and Etro instead. As an aside, Bhunivelze or his creations Lindzei/Pulse may or may not care enough to use the extra Chaos lying around to remake a new human society on a new Earth. The only significant difference is Lightning Returns has the original group saving the original race of humans as Etro intended them, with Chaos inside. Keep in mind the Cocoon fal'cie's plan to end the current race of humans, wasn't necessarily wrong, as peaceful humans in the image of Bhunivelze would be likely be inhabiting Earth instead. Just my 2 cents.

+Oni Black Mage I'll take your pennies and add a few more of my own. It is mentioned in 13 that the cocoon fal'cie were attempting to open "Etro's Gate" and create a calamity great enough to draw the attention of the creator, Bhunivelze. We see in the finale of 13 that Etro's gate was just about to open before the heroes intervened. Cocoon falling would release the chaos if the human souls were still on board. Even if the pulse fal'cie were still alive, they would surely be swept up by the chaos just as it happened at the end of 13-2. This seems to intimate that the chaos could escape Valhalla even without the death of the Goddess if enough souls had to flow into Valhalla. Etro's gate opening in the final cinematic of ff13 may be an incorrect statement, but, I believe I read/saw that somewhere. If it is correct though, the heroes still continue to be 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' through both the first and second game as it relates to the overarching plot. The points about Caius not needing to do anything (because Yuel would be safer in a world not altered by etro's paradox causing ways) doesn't matter as the end times would already be upon humanity. PS. Thank you for responding to a comment on a much older video!

+Daniel Cappuccio FFXIII had them save many of Cocoon for hundreds of years. FFXIII-2 had them save many of Pulse for hundreds of years. FFXIII:LR had them save many for an indeterminate time. Its about Fighting Fate. About humanity having the little bit of 'chaos' that might surpass all other plans of any divine will. If they didn't do anything in FFXIII, other people might have been picked to kill Orphan, everyone in Cocoon dies and there is no Savior because there's no one to save. The world just ends. Either Etro's Gate is 'ripped open' and chaos pours in and God makes a new world, or he goes into the chaos himself and tries to find his mommy, but either way, everyone's dead and they don't come back. There would be no humanity anymore.

Malcolm Swoboda Given the nature of the game world, fighting fate to live another day makes sense to me. I think what might have been lost on me is the span of time that actually occurred in XIII-2. Obviously they tell you the years, but as a player jumping through time, all the events seem to be just days apart. So while the efforts of the players do make a large impact on the people living in the world, it would seem that the PC's themselves are still getting the short end of the stick. But, when you consider the ending of Lightning Returns, with the characters finally coming together and overcoming GOD, yeah...it comes together.

I think it was also mentioned that a large group of people dying at once also releases chaos, so cocoon falling and humans dying would still create a burst of chaos which would be bad you know, if humanity dying out and being replaced wasn't bad enough, who's to say these "peaceful humans" are even really human, part of what makes us human is we are flawed and must overcome our shortcomings.

+TheTrophyMunchers haha i am going to do the same thing, final fantasy 13-2 is just unplayable, worst port ever. GTX 970 4GB and FX 8320, Lightning returns is much better + 60 FPS :p

Kenadit Shegow glorious 60 fps, it is much better port :)

+Don'tShootTheMessengerX Yes, the main thing of FFXIII-2 is 'this is how we get from things seeming quite fine, to the world ending anyway'. Though there is still a 'timeline' of hundreds of years in between.

lmao

What's funny bout that?

It's a shame too, because the game play and mechanics with taming monsters and whatnot is actually pretty good imo.

+Skyler B (TheBakedGamer) It's an awesome game. :D

༼ つ◕ω◕ ༽つ Wise Sage Doge it is haha xD I was playing a bit yesterday :D

Skyler B I've played it from start to finish 3 times and I've completed it 100% once, along with DLC and everything. It's just such a great game, I love it. It reminds me so much of FF 6 and 7 (My two favorites so FF 13-2 is also one of my favorites now.) :P

༼ つ◕ω◕ ༽つ Wise Sage Doge wow haha that's an a complishment! Awesome! I need to step up my game then haha. I think I'm halfway maybe I'm. On chapter 4

Skyler B Cool! I hope you enjoy it a lot. Oh, and if you ever tame a green chocobo, KEEP IT! It's the best healer in the game. ;) If you ever get it, ask me for infusion tips and I'll help you make it resistant to all elements and give it better stats. ;)

i'd love that too. been trying to get thru this game for years but get frustrated w/ raising monsters, what spheres to invest in ect

3 seconds later he explains there's a boobytrap made by her that they get caught on

I urge you to try. I do think if properly managed, this story could become great while also not being this complicated. I’ll help you if you want.

well FFVIII ends with Ultimecia giving her Power to Edea who even agrees to wield her Power, making every Playthrough of FFVIII canon, basicly^^

@Quinton Rogers No it wasn't. ff15 is trash

@hugo 4363 I can tell you some reasons why ff15 is a lot uglier than you think. It's the most empty final fantasy game. It has boring traveling, reapetitive side quests, no character development, incomplete almost no story at all with horrible narrative and the main story quests are most of them totally silly. It's not broken, it's disgusting. Technically can't get better except if they created 10 more dlcs to fill the gaps and change the story. At least ff13 was decent enough to complete its story and I found it very original and interesting. If you didn't like it it's your problem, but not in a million years ff15 is better than ff13. My favorite is ff9.

I shall end this debate once and for all: deleting it from history.

Noel Auditore ffxv had so much potential. Square just rushed the game just like how EA, Bethesda, and Activision does it. It was supposed to have a different story (most characters are the same) and a different title (versus 13) which means it was made in the same world as lightning’s. But meh we were given an incomplete game, made without passion.

+NekoSoren I understood the story perfectly the first time I played the game. I actually think it was so simple that it was way OVER-explained, lol. If you have questions then I'll gladly answer because I feel like more people would enjoy it as much as I do if they could understand the story. :)

David Kennedy I rank FF 13-2 5th in terms of story and 3rd in terms of gameplay. I rank 13-3: Lightning returns last in terms of story but the gameplay and sidequests are FUCKING AWESOME (P.S. The sidequests have awesome stories and I loved them all. The main story sucks ass.)

Not to count having to force Lightning to say "Meow Meow Choco Chow"...with Hope there to listen and maybe record it? XD

NekoSoren I actually liked that xD

Now, joke aside, I actually kind of liked the battle system this time around owo, and the banter between Lightning and everyone XD and it was nice to see her being nice to Snow xD

Yeah. Because vampires do not like sunlight.

It's flimsy, but as they said, the Guardians have an inheritance system in which they can only pass on their power and immortality to the next Guardian that kills them. He was basically pushing for Noel to get stronger to slay him, while sabotaging Etro in the meanwhile. Though, as we find in Lightning Returns, that plan backfired.

Good point I love the story but it turned out to be too complicated in the end I wish they had found a way to make the story better starting at the end of the first one.

+Lesley Nealy He technically can't kill himself at all since he has Etro's heart. Only another guardian can kill him but since Etro fucked up, killing Caius kills her too. Etro is an idiot.

But Caius's suicide fixed the paradox, thus saving Yeul... Why DIDNT he kill himelf if he cares about it Yeul that much?

No, they don't. Just like the rest of the trilogy, they don't even explain anything.

King Scheiber I think they explain it in Lightning Returns but I dont remember xD

Nitram Zimaohk Sema Actually, they don't explain this in the game. Or in that other game either. I think in FFXIII-2 Fragments After, which is a 242 page book, that tells us that a Cactuar branded him a l'Cie. I don't get why the developers didn't put that. They could have easily placed that info into the game.

King Scheiber They just say it was to have powers in order to help Serah find Lightning I think, but they never mention who transformed him or what his mission is in the game. Also, I didnt know about that book :O I only read the episode 0

King Scheiber They said he must've found a Fal'cie after he wound up in a paradox and became branded again.

14:43 minutes in... I'm ready to give up 😓

19:56.... nosebleed 🙀

Matthew Etter i ran back the numbers FF13-2 retention rate was more like 47-49%. Then from 13-2 to Lightning returns 29-30% So for that series it dropped 85% sales. FFX to X2 was more 53- 54% drop. Sequels sales drops happens. Yes. But my point there was alot of vocal disappointment in the series and the Square didnt listen they tried to patch work 13-2 and. In all honesty all 13 trilogy games could have been just one game if they cut out all the BS. Persona 5 looks good but dont think it will out sale XV. But it will likely be a more polished game.

I think smaller companies do better overall. they are way more focused. Passion projects. When alot of companies get big they lose their drive, their ethos. but FFX was last good one in my opinion. Havent played FFXv yet ill wait till they do a GOTY Edition Im a big Persona fan since maybe 5 years ago. I knew of the series just finally got into it.

i think the game gave this info or some CPU after you finished bresha

"It's a human-built BIOWEAPON..." humans built this biological weapon.

+carolthorn 1: When Noel was "forced" to kill Caius, he also killed the goddess Etro (she gave her heart to Caius so he could be Yeul's immortal guardian). She controlled the chaos in Valhalla and with her dead, it just exploded into their world. 2: Lightning froze herself to keep the memory of her sister alive after she died.

Lol

+aranciaaurora The deal with Etro is that she's the most 'human' goddess, and this may have to do with her being unintentionally modeled after the top creator goddess. She's the flawed but caring one. Her whole story is of intervening for humanity or specific humans' sakes and yet complicating things even more. But then she finally dies (or whatever) and Lightning carries on her better intentions. It is of Etro herself that humanity was created, and through Etro's power and actions that humanity's souls could continue to exist after death (but in new birthed bodies). Where Pulse would challenge and house man and Lindzei would manipulate and form man, Etro birthed and cared for man, even while often being the god of their deaths. Even in the larger scale of her interventions bringing on the 'end of the world', this of course did also lead on the chain of events of Lightning doing her own stuff, but partially in the name of being the champion of Etro.

+Malcolm Swoboda Honestly. I use to hate the Mythology of the game, till I found a detailed video that explained the myth without cutting corners. I just hate how sloppy SE got with their Storytelling and decided to give us this Mythology in bits and pieces. It did Not even Help that Etro was intorduced in FF13-2, and honestly....they should've ended the Game There!.

+Daniel Ramsey Could you link that video by chance if you can still find it.

Daniel Ramsey "To be continued..." lol This sequel was a rickety bridge to a sloppy finale

Hate to say, but I really don't have the time or resources to go through an MMORPG, so there are no plans for FFXI or FFXIV

Okay.. I understand. Thanks for replying ^.^

+Oni Black Mage what is mmorpg?

+Oni Black Mage It's fine I understand.. Thanks for replying ^•^