OnX vs TrailsOffroad: It’s not even close

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Күн бұрын

Hey guys, sorry for lack of uploads… we’re filming a lot tho! I’ve just been tossed around the state (GJ to Denver to now Craig) and I’m working 12-13 hour days. Oh and I broke the camper. Rushed edit but I believe I have provided good info. I’ll still check to see if OnX improves, but I don’t believe OnX is from fellow off-roaders so they just don’t get it. They sure want our money tho.
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Here is the code for TrailsOffroad discount. Do a trial first… don’t buy it unless you’d think it’d be useful for you. I definitely love it but you saw the video so you know why.
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Channel Members have access to our filming schedule and I want you to be in the videos! The Black Bear crew gets additional easy to edit videos but offer more up to date info on trails (since guides take a while to put together). The Holy Cross crew gets more say in what videos get edited for the channel (video credits and early looks at Trail Guide edits). / @coloradomallcrawlers
00:00 The Cave house
00:14 Not the video I wanted to make
00:54 Best trail intel around
01:51 False advertising is as bad as true clickbait
03:53 Definite Gamechanger for me
04:55 Finding Trails
06:04 Ok, I'm an OnX hater... here's just one example with the Liberty
07:16 I never knew this feature could be this good
08:41 It's comical how bad this feature is in OnX
09:54 This was really just a Jeep Liberty update
11:25 Maybe I was reaching here, but I swear these are all over the place when I look at them in one of these apps
12:52 Who writes these "trail Guides"
14:37 Do you really think it's the best software for your fans?
15:06 I almost didn't include this section... but it was interesting
15:49 Next week's Trail Guide and App Breakdown
17:49 Pricing and look at those errors... sure we lost Moab, but they arent closed yet
19:03 This wasn't fabricated for the video... that's why trailsoffroad is awesome
20:19 a sedan on a off-road trail?

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@Trailsoffroad 8 ай бұрын

Really appreciate you and the incredible work you put into your guides and sharing information with the offroad community, just like our mapping crew does! It says a lot that you share opinions from the trail based on experience in the dirt, not just from behind a computer screen. Catch you guys out there! 😎

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for making a great app and being a true by off-roaders for off-road era company!

@JanetGraniteJeep 8 ай бұрын

Very happy with Trailsoffroad! We met the Colorado mapping crew on Black Bear Pass last year. They were super friendly and even helped us down an obstacle. Really great guys that really are into helping the off-road community!

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I’m friends with a few TrailsOffroad mappers including filming a guide with one… they’re actual off-road enthusiasts and that’s what I love!they knew it’s critical to get it as right as they can.

@JayElement13 8 ай бұрын

I prefer trails off-road and I recommend it to anyone who ask me what’s trail app they should use

@WorkFromHomeFriday 8 ай бұрын

Dude! What a great, in-depth review! And you got a discount link!! That's so awesome! Looking forward to wheeling together again sometime!

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Let’s wheel! You want to do poison spider in early November?

@jeffbluhm7314 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this informative video, helped me decide which app to renew.

@FearlessTrailhawk 8 ай бұрын

Great video my dude! After spending the week with you in CO this fall i'm a believer in Trails Offroad, though i haven't pulled the trigger on the purchase yet, but will definitely do it before the spring! I'll still keep my Gaia as it does have its own strengths.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love GAIA too, but I love trails off-road more but that’s because I love trails. You do too so I bet you’ll be like me and like TrailsOffroad over GAIA as you use it. Still, I wont get rid of GAIA!

@Drew.Hunter.Maker.Artist 8 ай бұрын

Very fair comparison! You provided plenty of hard evidence and your personal experience. Not just an opinion.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy! I tried, but I ready to pump out trail guides and not these kind of videos… can’t wait for Blanca! I’ll get the narration done!

@Petesmotoadventure 6 ай бұрын

One reason you may not be aware is OnX you get 6 months premium free when you buy a new jeep. Thanks for the cool content and information.

@coloradomallcrawlers 6 ай бұрын

Thanks and I know. Just wish it was actually decent software. The trail guide I’m editing now is one of the trails OnX failed me on.

@rollingedges9469 8 ай бұрын

Trailsoffroad all day! Had it since beta test and it just keep's getting better.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I agree, I absolutely love all the new features!

@robertb880 8 ай бұрын

I agree I found on x has let me down several times. I now have giaia and trails offroad. Love them

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I’m not surprised by how many of us have been let down from OnX… but I think it comes down to the fact that they just aren’t overlanders/off-roaders.

@Ridesaway24 8 ай бұрын

A lot of great info to consider. Thanks for presenting the options. Trailsoffroad seems to be your choice, what do you think about the updates such as trail open, conditions are handled on trailsoffroad?

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

So, I think both TrailsOffroad and OnX allow users to update that. Generally I find the TrailsOffroad user base to be more knowledgeable and therefore more accurate. Also in TrailsOffroad you can submit photos… like in my mount Baldy video, there was a sketchy rock slide I shouldn’t have attempted, but I’m almost certain that there were pics of that slide in TrailsOffroad. That’s what makes TrailsOffroad reviews awesome!

@speedyforde3404 8 ай бұрын

Downloaded and bought trails offroad with your code. Thanks😊

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I hope it’s as great as it is for me for you!

@speedyforde3404 8 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers have any trail days in the next few weeks?

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

@speedyforde3404 we do! I broke the camper, but my plan was to film one last Colorado trail with it this weekend. May not happen now unless I just fix the camper myself (I want a professional to take a look at it). Besides that, I’m planning on lots of Moab this winter.

@WyWander_yt 2 ай бұрын

Very cool. Thank you! I'd signed up for most of the map apps, trying to figure out what's what. This helps. The issue I have, which is entirely a location issue, is that TO doesn't have much to show in WY. Granted, most of what is in WY is just FS roads. With the work you're already doing, you might consider applying to TO as a writer. I am considering doing it for WY but haven't followed through yet.

@coloradomallcrawlers 2 ай бұрын

The main issue with TrailsOffroad is that they’re a small team, but they’re rapidly expanding their location coverage. I’d definitely encourage you joining their team… there’s great people there. My plan is to be up in Wyoming this summer as we want to film a few trails. I have thought about joining TrailsOffroad, but until this year, I had no off days.

@WyWander_yt 2 ай бұрын

I swear OnX heard us talking. I've been inundated with OnX ads lately.

@coloradomallcrawlers 2 ай бұрын

lol, they’ve bought out almost every KZfaqr

@b16crxt 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Regarding the affiliate link/kickbacks. Who cares? You spend your time producing content for us and you deserve all you can get from that hard work. It speaks volumes about your character that you even mention them, but I feel it's unnecessary. People should be happy to support the channel in any way they can and an affiliate link costs us nothing.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! Thank you! I try to put more into this channel than it earns as I truly enjoy filming as making videos for others. I’m getting more confident hosting, but I still hope to find someone to take over so I can be the videographer and driver lol

@bpwillits 8 күн бұрын

Still have a discount code for the app? Anything we can enter to get you "credit" for getting the app? Good stuff, keep it up.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 күн бұрын

Yeah, it’s still active and in the description of this video. Thank you! They truly are a great company/app… actually made by offroad enthusiasts.

@njcomaz3487 8 ай бұрын

I'm new to offloading and was using onX and fond some of it useful. I do own the FunTreks off-road books, and think that it gave better information than OnX. Do you know if Trails Offroad gives that same amount of information?

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I know they’re small pics in this video, but hands down TrailsOffroad has so much more info than OnX. I used our recent filming sessions to show the differences. I’d say TrailsOffroad probably had double or triple the info OnX had on the same trails. Also, the best OnX guides are from funtreks, and as much as I love those books, TrailsOffroad has more room to have more info being a digital guide. Hope that helps!

@karlmurphy1751 8 ай бұрын

Hi, Dewey. Me and The Old Goat have been using Trails Offroad this year. The problem is that the "Follow Me" doesn't always work with my tablet. That and Trails Offroad tends not to show how to get to the trail head from the primary acess highway/road. Otherwise, I've been please much more than OnX. By The Way, Me and The Old Goat (2005 slightly raised Liberty that is otherwise stock) have done Poison Spider a couple of times. I recommend a talented spotter for the first waterfall up from the trail head and a couple of other spots. But on the whole, competent, skilled driving will get your Liberty thru Poisoned Spider just fine. Yours, Karl and The Old Goat.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Let them know… I had issues with navigate to the trail, but it’s fixed for me now. I don’t run a tablet in my Jeep so I’m doing everything with my phone. We’re finishing filming Poison Spider in early November, want to come?

@karlmurphy1751 8 ай бұрын

Hi, Dewey. You're killing me, Smalls! I'm out of leave time at work due to illness and the bank is real low for the same reason. Man, I really would if I could afford to. The Old Goat is going to not be happy, Dewey. What day(s) are you going to be in Moaba? Oh, bother. Getting old and decrepit sucks like a Hoover. Karl and The Old Goat.

@mikegallagher2732 8 ай бұрын

THANK YOU for this Dewie !!!! I use TRAILS OFF ROAD AND FUNTREKS for wheeling and ON X BACKCOUNTRY for hiking/backpacking Which IS Good...I TRIED ON X off road and am NOT a fan .... DONT know why people think its great ....

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I really wanted to like OnX when I first got it especially when it looked like they had a partnership with Funtreks. However no credit given to the funtreks team really rubbed me the wrong way. Then the errors and software bugs had me realizing it was just a cash grab to get us off-roaders to buy in. Thanks! Blanca is next!

@mikegallagher2732 8 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers CANT WAIT for BLANCA !!!!😄🤘

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I won’t watch it till y’all can, but Sean reviewed it and said it’s awesome! I need to record some audio for it but it’s mostly ready to go I’ve heard. I hope people watch it… Drew had 13 hours of footage yet probably 5 hours of footage without audio as my main narration GoPro didn’t record sound. I want to pay him a lot for editing it!

@Mallrunner 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I've started to notice more and more mapping bugs on onx. It's not a big deal when I'm solo wheeling but annoying when I'm leading a pack and we all have to turn around.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Yeah buddy, I think it’s because they’re not vetting their “guides.” Did you see the snuggly britches trail author? That was a screenshot. I checked it later and it was back to Trae, but onx is seems like Wikipedia where anyone can update their “guides.” Maybe if they get some actual off-roaders in charge, they’ll improve but clearly their leaders are not one of us. I’d be embarrassed to pitch OnX to others from actually using it. I still can’t believe Ian was ok narrating that onx ad… had he actually tried to use their 3D maps? It’s just frustrating.

@Mallrunner 8 ай бұрын

@coloradomallcrawlers no I haven't seen the snuggly britches trail author. I strongly doubt Ian and them use the app. They arnt going out and exploring like us.

@JonDZ_Adventuring 8 ай бұрын

On-X had inaccurate trail info when we were in Gunnison Colorado. It said level 3 “slaughter house gulch” was level 5 South Lottis road….. needless to say, we weren’t expecting this trail to be this difficult. I plan on making a “Halloween” episode called “OnX horror story and the demon cows” 😂 Also, I just used TrailsOffroad to find overland camp 2 nights ago. Worked great!!

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

That’s gonna be awesome! I’ll may do one last little dig into OnX when I edit horse creek, but feel I said my peace on it between the GAIA vs OnX video and this one. This was a long time coming tho as an OnX KZfaqr called me out on the GAIA vs OnX video and then recently another OnX KZfaqr tried to tell me it’s the best off-road company out there. I was like, do we have different versions of the software? Anyway, I’m glad you found TrailsOffroad! TrailsOffroad is awesome as it’s made by off-road adventurers for off-road adventurers. Yeah, and for true off-road camping, TrailsOffroad is killing it. Such good spots in their waypoints!

@JonDZ_Adventuring 8 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers My latest video has a little video of my using it to find camp close to Tuscon, Arizona. I had to drive over there for a little partnership meeting about new product. Saved me from a hotel stay.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

The shower one… I’m working 13 hour days plus I broke my camper that I’m so behind on watching videos.

@kayleighdrouin6378 6 ай бұрын

Found it thank you

@sevendewey 8 ай бұрын

I’m only 2 years into off-roading and briefly tried On X and was not a fan. I used trails off-road in combination with Gaia before their integration with CarPlay. Now I have had some issues with the app crashing but those seem to be resolved now. I think they are the best option for off-roaders for all the reasons you stated. On X should stick to hunting 😅

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Let them know if it happens again. From what I understand, TrailsOffroad is really responsive to issues. I’ve luckily not had any issues with their app on my iPhones, iPads, or laptop… but I’ve not tested it on android based systems.

@JayElement13 8 ай бұрын

I miss Living in Grand Junction. Hopefully I could move back.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I hope you can too!

@prrnrngr Ай бұрын

Tardy to the party...haha. But your points are a big reason I've stuck with TO. ONX is a mess to look at compared to TO or Gaia GPS.

@coloradomallcrawlers Ай бұрын

It’s a great app!

@daveharness70 8 ай бұрын

I've struggled with OnX for 3 years now. It has never ceased to disappoint. Downloaded maps in high detail are still blurry. Map doesn't stay centered on your location. Maybe it is user error....but definitely a pain.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

You and me both. But I can get GAIA, TrailsOffroad and various other apps to work right. I think it comes down to using map software as trail software. I still want to know how they had all of funtreks trails on their maps with funtreks info. Especially when funtreks had their own app (which I need to give a try).

@daveharness70 8 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers just signed up for a year to give it a try. Looks like they have a few trails near Daniel Boone NF in Kentucky which is where I typically go. I've read the description of one of the trails we typically do and it is spot on!

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

They’re expanding too… I’m Facebook friends with some of their traveling guides and I’m jealous of all the wheeling he’s doing!

@Travisj9935 8 ай бұрын

Trails off-road is very limited where I live. Sure it may be great in Utah and Colorado. But there is nothing on it here in South Dakota

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Let them know and they’ll likely send someone out. As I said, small company expanding coverage.

@brunnie 8 ай бұрын

I too like TrailsOffRoad in conjunction with Gaia. My only problem with TOR is their photography can be confusing when they are showing an intersection. OnX has proven to me to be a real pain, as has Avenza, so those 2 are going into the trash.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I know they’ve been putting their trail authors through video and photography workshops so I bet they’ll be getting better. They seem pretty good to me but I’m a video person, never was good at photography.

@brunnie 8 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers .. Part of it is tell you to "go/continue straight" at an intersection... Just tell me when I have to turn, straight is assumed at all other times. And line up the vehicle in the turn, not pulled over along side the road. With video you can actually show taking the turn as well as any signage.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I think they put that in at places some people get confused at… it doesn’t bother me, but I agree with your point.

@davidbutler5114 8 ай бұрын

I have been using Trails Offroad and like it better than OnX. Bought a Jeep Rubicon 2004 and put a 2" lift and 33/10.5 tires. its way better than the jl Diesel on 35" tires.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I think you’ll like my stock to stock comparison. I think that’s how you should evaluate vehicles off-road as almost anything can be built to be awesome on the trail. Thanks for watching!

@baileydennisw 7 ай бұрын

do have done trails in indiana yet?

@coloradomallcrawlers 7 ай бұрын

It looks like they haven’t made it there yet. Send them a message and they’ll try to get people out there to document them.

@wayliengchoy576 8 ай бұрын

Does Trails Offroad work for Canada??

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Surprisingly, I did see some Canadian trails when I was downloading offline trails. It was only a few tho, but I know they’re rapidly expanding… they’re based in Colorado yet I keep seeing new Tennessee trails added.

@ccovemaker 8 ай бұрын

I've had subs to both. Trails Offroad information is better. I like it better but on my last trip I went to Red Bird IRA in Indiana. TO had BoH trails, with better info but only the BoH trails. The entire rest of the park was blank. No trails to even follow. I used ONX. ONX literally had every trail in the park. Offoad trails, ohv trails, hiking path. I used both. I can't really see using either solo. FYI I downloaded the entire state of Colorado on ONX. I am not sure where that offlineaps info came from.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

How did you download the entire state in OnX? I tried while editing and it was still just the three rectangles altho improved from the last time I played with it. I use them all, but I only trust funtreks and TrailsOffroad. The expanded coverage is coming, but takes time to do right!

@ccovemaker 8 ай бұрын

@@coloradomallcrawlers On the Android app I go to Offline Maps, scroll to an area, hit New Map, zoom and crop to what you want, and download. Looking back I had downloaded "Boulder Area" and "Ouray Area" for my trip so I didn't have to pull individual maps.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

Oh ok, I see what you mean. I have done that, but I much prefer the TrailsOffroad download a whole state thing. I don’t even need the map.

@TheTinManTJ 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for not being yet another mindless OnX huckster.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

I don’t quite understand the OnX KZfaqrs… if you want people to know you’re for them, then wouldn’t you actually push good products instead of anyone that throws money your way?

@supacheef1 8 ай бұрын

Trails off road for sure. Onx has given me nothing but issues

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

It’s been good for me too… but that’s why I made this!

@jscotangus 3 күн бұрын

I've been a Gaia user for user a long time (started as a backpacking user), but the usability and features are crap so.. since I clearly still have to manually create all the routes found on Trails Offroad (upload to Gaia creates a track... which isn't useful at all... it should create a route) ... and the features inside Gaia make it a PITA to do this (system admin sucks, folders and saved stuff is a train wreck to understand and manage across iOS and website)... so I'm just going to stick to CalTopo and Trails Offroad. Really wanted to my Gaia and Trails Offroad combo to work, but... it's just too shitty.

@JoshSpring3746 8 ай бұрын

OnX advertising is super annoying. Lots of sell-outs on KZfaq pushing it to make an easy buck.

@coloradomallcrawlers 8 ай бұрын

As a creator, I see their side as ad revenue is hit or miss. As a viewer, I lose faith when they sell out. The thing I wonder… is do they truly believe the bs they say about their sponsors?