Ant-Man: Scott spends 5 years in prison because he puts the needs of others above himself. Captain America Civil War: Scott goes to super villain prison because he sides with Captain America when it comes to the idea of hero registration. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Scott is under house arrest because of his actions in the previous movie and risks further prison time for people he doesn't really know. Endgame: Scott is the catalyst to saving literally half the universe. Quantumania: Scott just doesn't care about others. One of these things is not like the others.

Really nice to come to a stream where people disagree and just chat about that rather than getting stressed out about it.

Mando Fans: "Whaddya mean I have to watch another show to figure out what's going on?!" Marvel Fans: "First time?"

I feel like the Mandalorian works better if Grogu is an actual character and not a merchandising opprotunity.

I have a co worker that's obessed with baby Yoda. I swear she has an entire closet of t shirts that involve that thing, and at least three different water bottles, a little plushy sitting on the dash of her car, who knows what else. Perfect Disney consumer.

Disparu (on Mando s3 ep1): 'I thought this was better than the first four episodes of Andor' MauLer: Jesus Fucking Christ! I choked I was laughing so hard at this reaction.

The panel: “but character development! Storytelling!” Disparu: 🗿

Even with their avatars, I saw Mauler and Little Platoon's heads explode when Disparu said the first episode of Mando season 3 is better than Andor. 😂

I wonder if Disparu likes Alice in Borderlands

As someone who used to work in San Francisco as an armored truck dude I love how SF is portrayed by Hollywood it is the best bits of comedy in their films these days.

This was my biggest gripe too: The Pirates have an entire capital spaceship, brimming with weapons, and they can't attack a town on a planet?

Mandalorian should have just been Star Wars Lone Wolf and Cub. Always amazed at how Hollywood, with out fail, fucks something so simple up.

the more i see little platoon working with you guys, mauler, drinker and FNT the better.. more, *_more_*

I am at the 1:21:09 mark when writing this. Had to stop the video because I am getting heated by the statement "if something happens past episode 4" with Andor. In the first few minutes of episode 1 we get a scene where the titled character gets in scufle with law enforcement that results that goes very wrong for everyone involved. That scene has very good action in it that does well in conveying character for those involved. Look, I understand if the first few episodes ain't your cup tea, but to say nothing happens in the first 4 episodes of Andor is BS. I am tired of hearing "nothing happened" when Andor is mentioned when it did so well to show that multiple things were happening. Its statements like this prove the creators that things like Mando, Kenobi and Book of Boba Fett will do better because the greater audience doesn't pay attention to quality. P.s. Still like Dispuru, I still value his opinion and will always watch a video because he is entertaining to watch.

What bothers me most about the Mandolorian atm is how can he get by in a Naboo star fighter? Before he had a gunship which served as not just transport but his literal home. Do they ever address how he is able to transport bounties, store equipment, or any of that? It seems they gave him that ship purely for nostalgia purposes without considering how impractical it is for his profession.

In regards to the Old Republic/EU, as a casual Star Wars fan, I definitely agreed that it still remains canon. KOTOR 1 and 2 are amazing games

The discussion on the Darksabre is the exact thing Harry Potter fans dealt with through the friggin' Elder Wand in the last book. And even that story had fewer plotholes and contrivances than D+ grade SW.

Take a shot everytime Disparu brings up Alice In Borderland

The Mandalorian, as a story, makes much more sense if you replace “beskar” with “plot”.

40:25 Mando was kind of a ruthless badass in about the first 2 minutes of the first episode, which gave me hopes the show would actually delve into the darker and more grey areas of storytelling. Right after he became the good guy caring about the baby and nothing else.

I am one of those people who thought Andor was engaging throughout. Intelligent dialogue, world building, and character development are what I would consider top-notch entertainment.

I do not agree with Disperu when it comes to TV being better than movies. While I agree with his point, it speaks a lot about your talent when you can get a point across in a short amount of time. As a big fan of short stories like Conan and the Shadow, if you can convey the point you are trying to make in a short amount of time, it demonstrates an understanding of what you are doing. Hell, the Critical Drinker himself proves this point to a T as a lot of his videos are 10 minutes long and he still manages to hit every single point of his criticism near flawlessly. What I think the problem is with contemporary media is self-indulgence. The reason why you are seeing a lot of flops with three hour movies is a lot of people don’t want to sit through a boring, slow-paced, uninformed lecture made by a rambling wannabe vlogger who has been given too much money. And if I wanted to hear a long rambling conversation that ultimately goes nowhere, I can tune to that for free on YT.

I remember KoTOR, which had the Mandalorians as incredible warriors who launched a bloody war the required the Republic to engauge in incredibly unethical tactics to win. Remember, they had to detonate A PLANET to get an upper hand on Mandalore. How far they've fallen.

When the stakes are so high, they become meaningless as they become incomprehensible. Cheers to Ant Man bombing!

The state of Manadlore is mostly because of Bo Katan. When Maul took over Deathwatch she ran to the Republic for help. Not because he was a evil sith but because he was an outsider. She and Deathwatch were wiping out entirely Villages for the fun of it. She has no grounds to stand on here.

I would sleep in a bed made out of the Little Platoon’s voice.

Kang is the Wile E Coyote of the MCU with ACME dynamite

I like that a big chunk of conversation could be construed as "young people have no patience"

Based on Disparu's take on movie focus, being action oriented or character oriented, I was really hoping someone was going to throw Saving Private Ryan at him to see on which side of that line he landed on with it.

"I didn't leave Mandalor,Mandalor left me." 🤣🤣🤣

The Little Platoon: awesome, as always.

Okay, I have to comment on all that Mandalorian Darksaber business because it's a great deal dumber than the panel realizes. All the way back in Filoni Clone Wars, Mandalore was ruled by the Duchess Satine, who was like Padme on steroids and even dumber. The holder of the Darksaber was Pre-Vizila and his lieutenant, Bo-Katan, were leaders of a terrorist organization that kept trying to overthrow Satine. Also note that Bo-Katan is her sister, which makes her an even bigger jerk. Also, just because he had the Darksaber didn't mean he was the rightful ruler of Mandalore; that was the Duchess even though she was an incompetent pacifist. After many attempts to overthrow her, Pre-Vizila teamed up with Darth Maul's criminal syndicate to give Mandalore a Summer of Love Peaceful Protest so that everyone lost faith in Satine. After she was deposed, Maul challenged Pre-Vizila to a duel to be the rightful ruler. Maul won and Bo-Katan refused to accept her own dumb civilization's rules and ran away for twenty years. So, first of all, the Darksaber as a token of authority was a retcon from Filoni Wars. Pre-Vizila never used to say that he was the rightful ruler. Second, the Darksaber itself wasn't heavy in Clone Wars either; Pre-Vizila used it one-handed, meaning Mando is a pussy who doesn't lift, bro. Third, Mando's weird religion is like the Amish of Mandalorians because Death Watch were perfectly fine taking off their helmets and they were more influential to the state of Mandalorian affairs than Mando's has ever been. Mando's armor smith might as well be a larper making up rules as she goes along seeing as how her group is just three people.

I don't think Disparu's ignorance of movies helps his overall points.

I really appreciate the different opinions and the respect displayed by opening subjective debate. End result is that all parties have simultaneously clarified their perspective ensuring their opinion is more robust and justifiable AND are now more open to alternative perspectives. That is the point of debate which is sadly missing from many content creators. Well done lads!

I honestly forgot there was an Obi-wan show

Open bar is a highlight of the week. And long enough usually to keep me entertained though the week’s worth of lunch breaks 😁👍❤️

Take a shot every time disparu interrupts them

I lol'd when Drinker compared Mandalorian to a videogame plot. Star Wars the Old Republic vanilla storylines are head above all the Disney SW shows (bar Andor, maybe). Especially the Imperial Agent and the SIth Warrior ones.

Mauler would agree with Disparu on the movies dont have enough time fleshing out characters vs tv shows, if Disparu just asked Mauler about Buffy and Angel characters. The character of Spike would never have been done justice in fleshing him out in a movie or a trilogy compared to a tv show. Same for the character of Wesley Wyndam Price. :)

I've gotta say, after all these years of poor content being spilled out of Lucasfilm and Disney, deep diving into the EU (real canon) has been one of the best decisions I've made. My main focus is everything before the 2008 Clone Wars show, with exceptions regarding some of the novels released after that. I may have to mentally remove some of the retcons, but I've been having a blast reading the novels. It makes me happy to love Star Wars again, even if it means on relying on the old material.

I love the "12 Angry Men" topics. Three critical voices, and one determined dissenting voice! Battle on!

At 48:28 Disparu is talking about the classic Canadian Sifi show: "Lexx." The episode is from season 4 and is called, "The Game."

It’s always good to see a video from the Drinker and Company

I really appreciated that in-depth discussion about different mediums, and ultimately it boils down to personal taste. Great cast gents

This is a great line up! Articulated, nobody talks over each other, and entertaining. Thanks

I love that these guys probably put in more thought about the characterization in the shows they watch than the writers of those shows 😂😂

When you guys talk about Multiverses, and the how you can just pull the same character from another world, it reminds me of that Robit Chicken skit where Batman is tired of going to heroes' funerals.

Disparu going on about AiB like season 2 wasn't absolutely terrible

The dark saber _can_ be a cool concept. Mandalorians have had the “the strongest rules” society since before Disney bought Star Wars. The saber should just be a physical representation of that. The problem is they’re doing a piss poor job of handling it. Bo-Katan doesn’t even try challenging Mando, even though that’s what would make sense. I get the feeling they’re _intentionally_ framing the Mandalorian hierarchy as stupid so that Bo-Katan can tear it down later. I hope I’m wrong though.

I don't think people who liked the first two seasons of Mando necessarily liked this episode. I liked the first two seasons but didn't like the opener. They brought back a dead character (again) whose story should have been over, the writing is worse than before, plus Grogu and Mando should have been separated which Book of Boba Fett destroyed. Season two opener was far better

This was worth listening to as I drove several hours to a job site today. Quality content, as always!

Bathing in the Mandalorian waters is probably just going to change his armours Color or something so they can make more toys

Yeah I'm not a fan of Disparu in this one. His metric for judging the quality of something like Mando compared to Andor is ridiculous. He's very quick to throw his hands up and be like 'I didnt watch Boba Fett!' or 'I only watched the first 4 of Andor!' when the other guys are just trying to bring up examples to illustrate a point. It's irritating, especially when he's regularly drawing from Alice in Borderlands?? I also find it insanely annoying when he's making a point, begins to trail off because he's run out of things to say, but then starts to shout over others with just the same argument when they begin to respond to him.

DIsparu's pacing rant is entirely what I expected to be the result of someone with ADHD being a bottle deep into whiskey.

1:53 LMAO 🤣 you genuinely got me to do a double take.

I’m in Atlanta too brother we like your stuff a lot . Keep on keeping on

I love how they've now made those 2009 Hasbro talking helmets canon. The ones where clearly these were aimed at kids, so made the visor bigger so it wouldn't impede thier vision so much. As the helmet looks plastic, they may well have repainted one? Can anybody spot the button under the rangefinder to activate the sounds?

You know, I recently heard about this, but apparently the actress who played Cassie in Endgame; Emma Fuhrmann. Wasn’t aware that she was being recasted in Ant-Man 3 until they announced it.

Diaparu is hard to watch, his pants seem full.

Disparu: when you mentioned Buffy in your TV series vs movies epic expostulation, it reminded me of what Sarah Michelle Gellar said when, following the end of the TV show, she was asked about the possibility of doing a movie sequel. She said then that it took a whole twenty-plus episodes to tell a Buffy story; how could they do the same thing in 2 hours? TV shows like Buffy almost pioneered the series-long arc for character development; other shows had had long running character sub-plots, but it was with Buffy and its assorted contemporaries that the format was refined to the extent that became the norm. The action in Buffy was always good (from Season Three onwards, anyway) but as somebody said at the time, nobody was watching Buffy every single week because of the action. What Joss Whedon did so successfully was to integrate the action into the plot--Buffy was a vampire slayer, so even when she wasn't actively out slaying that still coloured every single element of her life. Stan Lee did the same thing with the Marvel characters: he made each one's power integral to how and why he fought, unlike most of the DC characters where the heroes could have been anyone under their masks (Tony Stark literally was Iron Man because of his heart condition; Bruce Banner was the Hulk because he had been exposed to gamma rays (from a bomb he himself had built - and as a result of saving someone's life), the Fantastic Four got their powers testing Reed's rocket which Ben was piloting and that was what made him into the Thing - there was a direct line of causality between who the person was before they got their powers and what they did after they got them). Long form storytelling is always more immersive, even if it often lacks the immediacy of the shorter form. I love TV shows and movies, but I can watch a TV show over and over in a way I can't a movie. And for the record, I'm probably three times your age and have seen more shows and movies than you can imagine. But don't worry - at the rate you're going, you'll catch up. Edit: Just heard what you had to say about SHIELD on TV. Totally agree, although I don't hate Winter Soldier. SHIELD is one of my favourite TV shows because it does all the things that Buffy did and that my other favourites do: gives you an ensemble cast with a strong family feel.

mando s3: somehow baby yoda returned

1:58:00 Wait, hold up! Cassie had a shrink suit at the protest? She was at a protest, in possession of an ant-man-style, Pym-tech shrink suit, and she got ARRESTED? How the hell were they able to arrest her? What all-fucking-powerful cosmic being did this city police department manage to recruit as a rank-and-file beat cop?

Disparu sounds like someone who hasn't watched a movie prior to the year 2000. Needs to calm down.

Ok, I get Disparu was trying to make a point, but my god he needed to just stop talking. Will have to come back to this again later, his arguments are hurting my head. I have never heard the 'movie characters are all shit' take before 😂

I think Disparu might have been having his point busted and he wouldn’t relent and admit there are exceptions to his rule about you can’t make good character driven stories in a movie.

The pirates are the dumbest villains in Star Wars, which -- given Disney Star Wars' extensive content -- is saying something. The gunfight literally starts because they want to get a drink in their favourite drinking spot, and are told it's not actually a bar anymore (it's a school now). They insist they want to go in and have a drink. They're told "that's not a bar." They insist. This is the hill they choose to *literally* die on -- "I used to go bowling here, and I'm having a game of ten-pin whether you like it or not." "Sir, this is a woman's clothing store now, not a bowling ally". "I will play bowls here OR DIE".

Honestly, this was your best video yet! Pissed myself laughing 🤣🤣 I didn't even realize how stupid this episode was 🤣🤣

"Baby Yoda" merchandising was an oversight. Disney/Lucasfilm didn't have products in development/production until after the second season. Once his popularity was realized, products were "fast tracked" into production. This is at a time when toys on store shelves, prior to releases, spoil stories and character reveals. Lucasfilm, on all levels, is miserably mismanaged.✌🏽

Im surprised no one said Spider-man 1 or especially 2, when it came to the top 3 Marvel movies. Am I the only one who remembers how good they were?

great panel - the all stars

Love this stream! unlike other film critic streams that just insult and bad mouth rubbish shows. You actually try to think and describe how it could of been made better 👌 love the reference to Alice in borderland too, thought I was the only one who watched that, it was alright, kept me more entertained than anything from Disney +

I was on Tiktok (I know) and I was surprised to see far more people calling out The Mandalorian S3. But also the same fans calling us 'toxic' and 'unable to be pleased' and 'bots' as well. So, not much has changed.

09:00 I completely agree with Platoon... I wanted to get as far away as possible from the atrocity that was the sequel series... Mando was a refreshing bottle of clean water in an otherwise sea of poisonous shit of Disney's design and malice intent. Don't get me wrong, Rogue one was also a nice little respite from mainline Disney as well. However, Mando was exactly what they needed to save any face with the alienated audience after the third movie... Had it not come out I have a feeling it'd be a few years before we saw something Star Wars... I still wonder what dirt KK has on those executives to not have lost her job after purposefully tanking a few billion dollar investment.

I thnk I agree with Disparu. John Wick didn't have a character arc. He is the exact same and the world he lives in is the exact same at the end.

Race-swapping established characters is almost always mean-spirited. It is the ideological desire to piss off normal people who are fans of the original, and they are revelling in your discomfort. I would also disagree with Disparu on the idea that it is because they are obsessed with casting that it suffers; sure, they are obsessed with politics and attacking their political opponents by any means necessary, but it is also setting them up to use tribal politics to cover their arses if the movie sucks, by calling everyone who doesn't like the movie a racist troll. They know how the argument will play out, they have the bully pulpit, therefore they cannot lose and will save face among their peers (who are the only people who matter to them), even if they sacrifice fan goodwill so that they cannot win, they have gamed the system and dunked on their ideological enemies, so it's all good from their point of view. It will keep being this way until corporations care about making money again, because it currently shields them from left wing criticism if they throw in tokenism of minority groups, and that is why they keep letting the spiteful activists take control. It worked against Occupy Wall Street to push identity politics to drown out economics (which the left was about before), and has been standard policy ever since.

You put much more thought into the MCU then anyone at Disney does, personally i gave up on that garbage ages ago and Baby Yoda is the only thing making money for Star Wars at the moment 😅

Mando season 3 so far gives me Boba Fett vibes. Got a feeling it’s gonna be a cheesy, crap season.

A bit too much Disparu for my taste.

Disparu has a point around he 56 minute mark. And I sometimes think it is underappreciated about recent reference to shit. What have you watched recently that makes you think this is good? Because recent reference, and hell expectations can seriously skew a viewing of something. Go into something with low enough expectations and you'll think 35 minutes of a dog having explosive shits would be a good time. As far as Mando Season 3, at least episode 1 goes, it is fine, in so far as it didn't do anything out of left field, anything insane, didn't do anything to offend, it was just there with some fan service and 30-something minutes of being able to turn your brain off, and unfortunately for some, and probably fortunately for a lot, that is all a likely majority of the consumers care about. In short it was entertaining enough for the majority of the consumers and in a month it will be forgotten by them.

You guys would make a great band.

This stream was worth it for the "shout out to christina applegate" superchat at the very end.

Am I the only one who was incredibly frustrated with Disparu's overbearing behavior on this stream? He was constantly interrupting the others before they had a chance to finish their thoughts or questions. It's okay to do this on occasion when warranted, such as to provide clarity on a point to avoid misinterpretation, but he was doing it CONSTANTLY for no valid reason. One of the aspects I absolutely love about Open Bar is that the conversations are incredibly civil when it comes to sharing thoughts and letting others speak... except for this one. I stopped listening about 1/3 of the way in and won't tune into any in the future that include him.

the way disparu dismantle piece by piece Maulers feeble attempt of defending LOU made me cream my pants.

The reason there is so much focus traditionally on male coming-of-age, male adventure, etc., is because of social outlooks stemming from reproductive bottleneck issues. That is, while females are seen as having inherent biological value by virtue of their womb, males have to earn or prove value through actions, character, etc. (As an aside, in terms of labour and economics, it's the opposite. Males traditionally labour for the family line, females will leave for another, and are a drain financially rather than a bonus, so males are seen traditionally as financially more valuable). Culturally we can (and in my mind definitely should) address the consequences of viewing things on reproductive instinct -- for one thing, simply in practical terms, pair bonding systems that value all males and celebrate male cooperation are far more stable than tournament models that only value "competitive" (that is, female-pleasing dominant) males. (Equally, societies that see females as contributors in multiple ways rather than *just* reproductive are more successful). Still, the idea that boys "become" men by trial rather than just by maturing is rooted in our evolution and biology, and will always colour people's reactions. The thing is, the supposed change in values of modern progressivism is never change at all. It's always reactionary, always about reinforcing the old, just in bizarre, self-contradictory ways. The entertainment powers-that-be double down on "females have inherent worth and don't have to earn it" while playing them in male roles -- which is why the female hero isn't proving her worth or growing as a character but just learning how great she was all along. It's females in male heroic roles but still defined classically with female qualities antithetical to the *point* of the role; and also, still perceived as defined by reproductive potential even as settling down and actually having children is condemned now as repressive. And because they're casting females in the hero roles without actually changing or updating how they feel about sex, it means that males aren't needed to fill those roles and thus, all males become the "uncompetitive" ones, so all males are treated the way in which "lesser" males were anyway -- as unworthy, mocked and dismissed. This is why "girl boss" and "girl who's the key to everything" go hand-in-hand with mockery and humiliation of male characters, even when it might seem there's no reason that it should. It's all tournament model sexuality, only warped to the point that even the positives of that system are removed, and all that's left is dysfunction.

Kotor 2 had Canderous Ordo take on the mantle of Mandalor. In that role (defacto supreme leader of the clans) he embodies the persona, and like Din Djarin, he speaks through a helmet and doesn't take it off. However his lines are still passionate, emotive and compelling. In fact you'd need to emphasize your intent through voice due to no facial expressions, ie be more expressive. Also, the must "never remove helmet in public ever" was never, ever, ever a cannonical Mandalorian custom. Perhaps in training, rookies might have had a version of that custom (probably still only while in training or combat, makes no sense in casual settings). The only reasons Canderous did that was part Mandalor custom (little c) and part because he'd had made a particular reputation as a mercenary and he didn't want the two identities to overlap or influence people's preconception of the man. Basically, he wanted to make a new Legend of Mandalor, not the continuation of the Legend of Canderous Ordo, sacrificing his own identity to pursue the interest of the Mandalorian people as opposed to being an individual. Djarin has some parallels, and I was hoping season 3 was going to be that story of pursuing the interests of his people, reunification effort, instead of yet another spirit quest to find himself and "regain" honor. Again.

Mando should've just bought another droid. I'm calling the seaweedy guy captain seeweed. ARRRR avas yee there laddy give me me space treasure 🤣.

on the Bo Katan comment, this was covered in the Clone Wars series. It was not that they were progressive, they were trying to get away from isolationist policies which almost caused them to all die off. The group Death Watch was a faction that wanted to go back to the old warrior ways which included isolationism etc. The group Mando belonged/belongs to is Death Watch.

Drinker being unaware of George Thorogood's "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer" is absolutely shameful.

I hope Mandalorian season 3 isn't just a series of fetch quests.

ant man 3 shoulda been a Scooby Doo type movie where Scott and the Lang Gang (Luis, etc. & Cassie/Janet/Hank with Cassie only making meaningful cameos) solve a seemingly low level mystery instead of a heist now since they're good guys that ultimately led to the discovery and reveal of The Conqueror as a villainous force arc throughout 3 Marvel movies. They coulda introduced him in ant-man 3, multiverse of madness coulda been released after antman 3 to show the force that the conqueror is as the main villain of that movie where he doesn't lose, then they coulda had him be defeated in the Fantastic Four movie to show that F4 is one of the top tier heroes and there would finally be a leader for the Avengers that we've been sorely missing and also so that audiences can have a little more time with Marvel's first family before the next 2 avengers movies. Then it could be revealed at the end of F4 that the Dynasty of Kang's is actually the big antagonistic force for the upcoming Avengers movies (released after a few more solo MCU movies/shows) after they see the potential threat that these groups of heroes can be to them if they all came together like the Dynasty of Kang's

Mauler's strenuous defense of last of us is the proof that deep down he's a positive and optimist eldritch god. He shouldn't be, but still... 🤣

Little patoonas way off on the comparison between boba Fett. Boba Fett killed the whole mythos of that character. He was like a tired old man. And it was so so boring

I love when Disparu gets an invite to Open Bar. It's like watching Cap and Iron Man squabble and then team up to stomp the real baddies.

Great story and so much of the story was expressed without words.

I like how the idea of micro universes and dimensions is presented in the Three Body Problem series...

A ton of action occurs in Jaws before you see the villain. One could argue it is the best action because it is blended with the tension and terror of an unseen threat in an environment similar to a nightmare where you can't run. John Wick one's character is built more on the circumstances of losing his wife and puppy, rather than his actual depth. The beginning hook of John Wick 1 is mostly female centric emotional pandering that holds up a rather blank stoic male protector who happens to be very capable in that role. Its a female fantasy with great action and a popular female sex symbol. Smart movie making that. Disparu raises a very a compelling point about TV series and film.

so basically they just extended the "previously on" to a full episode

I think what Dispary was gettin’ at is that not being tied to a universe as a fan frees one to critique or enjoy a story from a less biased perspective, or for the more general aspects such as: fights, plot, characters, etc. But as far as the Mando or Andor go, he believes they still fall short in those regards. Or something like that.

I love how almost every problem in Quantumtism could have been solved by Scott acting like a lot of parents would. Tell Cassie that "No, I'm not going to jusf bail you out, so that you can end up back here next week. You can stay in this cell overnight, so you can actually learn a lesson and reflect on your actions"

I don't mind if people don't like the same stuff I do or hold different opinions. That's what makes life interesting doesn't it? I mean imagine if everyone liked the same things as you? Who would you argue with when you fancied a row? lol