It ended with Infinity War (not Endgame) for me.

I’m feeling the same way, can’t be bothered to waste my time on this.

@@kamandi1362 Same for me. Never bothered to watch Endgame. No fat Thor, no hipster soy Hulk, no fem empowerment scene for me.

The days of Iron Man 2008 seem like long ago. Back when the MCU was just starting out and was fantastic

@@916hayabusa indeed. It doesn’t see with watching

Yea man, can’t allow that strong white male to slip through those cracks. Not ever.

Yeah because that's so different from comics....uhhhhh

He did what all men who follow the narrative are supposed to do in 2022; sacrifice everything for empowered wahmen

@@Metonymy1979 I mean, Thanos’ motivation in Infinity War wasn’t comic accurate at all but it suits the story and made him awesome. They had a choice to leave out the “comic accurate” but bad parts out of the movie. They just didn’t do it this time.

@@Metonymy1979 let's ruin the movies, as long as the comics were ruined in a similar manner 10 years ago. Now you are thinking with portals.

Because Whamen good; Man Dumm...

You see that would require the writer to write a setup and who wants to write a setup when you can just have a payoff. Payoffs for everyone, the journey doesn’t matter it’s all about the destination

I thought The Hammer (can't spell it lmao) kinda "helped" her with the fighting, at least I'd hope so or my fantasies of finding The Hammer are dashed to bits

Because THE MESSAGE.

Well clearly women can do absolutely everything without training or knowledge or experience. We are just born knowing all. *eye roll* I am so over this bs they keep trying to sell us.

Sad how people on the Internet like you have better and more compelling ideas for this film than the actual writers who get paid for this sort of thing. Shows how far the movie industry has fallen.

Wow.....this is a REALLY cool idea

@BIG DICK ClUTCH What changed?

does anyone know what mauler looks like? Show yourself bruh! I came here for u!

But then they would’ve had one less strong female wahmen to drool over!?!

It wouldn't make since with anyone, but especially not someone who is thousands of years old.

Range🤌🏾

when ragnarok was released i found it so odd that people were not discussing the jarring difference in Thors character

@@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 i work at a mall lol hella people showed up at 430 am for a marathon for thor and i was like imagine the eye rolling going on in there 😂

It's because of Hemsworth and Taika's 'reinventing' him every single movie. They literally say things like 'We wanted to do something different every time' 'We wanted to reinvent the character' 'Taika's mind is like that of a child'. All the warning signs were there.

Agreed, I do like Jojo Rabbit and What We Do In The Shadows but his Marvel movies suck and Korg is ok in small doses but he had so much more screentime in L&T and it was really annoying.

Two tricks - he has a funny voice cause New Zealand accents be funny. Waititi is basically a man saying 'check out my choice chilly bin, bro' and then falling over.

He's a shit director, and I hated Thor Ragnarok. Anyone who loved that movie deserves this one.

He is in love with himself. I can't understand how is that even remotely possible. If I was like him I would kill myself in a minute, baby

@@strollic5162 Somebody needed to say it. Time has proven us right, in a sea of buffoons praising that filth you were one who could see beyond the truth.

The more content Disney releases, the more numb I get. Same here. The MCU/Star Wars/Disney in general is becoming very underwhelming. It really is just content for the sake of content

I despite the woke agenda that Disney is pushing

@@M419.99 Same

I've started as a? Grammar.

@@Satansclawps3 "Grammar." is not a sentence.

Are you saying women are not worthy of holding a stupid hammer and they belong in the kitchen?!?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Disney is always undermining their own properties without even noticing. It's like when they make Obi-Wan haplessly follow around a 10yo girl without realizing what a loser that makes him

The requirement to be worthy was an enchantment by Odin. Prior to that it was just a regular hammer.

@@blidge8282 Regular hammer forged in the heart of a damn star.

@@libertyprime6932 😂😂💯💯💯

Or instead of Thor getting all his clothes "flicked" off by Zeus in Thor 4 Jane Foster gets all her clothes "flicked" off but they would never have the balls to do that. Everyone is supposed to be treated equally though.

That's a great point!

"Fat Widow". LMAO

It was some nutty professor bullshit

Body Positivity Widow

he said he'll destroy anyone's mythos and i guess that includes his self's.

I noticed this too. Taika Waititi made Thor into The Mighty Boosh skits.

If they even remembered this detail, they would just give Korg an adoptive mother.

Well, Split was D.I.D., not being sociopathic.

@@moonlitskylight5740 Sociopath/Psychopath just means "crazy af" these days lol

And then he literally goes back to fucking Mjolnir lmao. Like, I get it. In the comics, stormbreaker is Beta Rey Bill's, and that's the end of it. But these retards never included Beta Rey Bill and instead went for Female Thor. Not only that, but they outright state that Stormbreaker (in the MCU) is the upgrade, 'the King's Weapon', so why would he just go back to Mjolnir and regress? I get that they screwed Thor out of being King but that doesn't mean he shouldn't use the King's Weapon that he forged over his old one that, in the movies at least, has been specifically confirmed to be worse than Stormbreaker.

This was the point of EVERY Thor movie. He just repeats the same story over and over and over … which is why they have to reset him or turn him into a different character every single film.

Thor has had to “find himself” in every movie. It’s been the same story for him four or five times.

@@farharbor3178 His point was; that Thor's Thor-ness wasn't necessarily due to the hammer itself, but yet somehow Natalie Portperson becomes a Thor-clone when she has the hammer. She's an Earth Scientist and the hammer just makes her act like every Strong Female Asgardian. It was like they were subverting that dumb FemThor comic for a minute and then they just did a 180 the second that a director wanted to insert THE MESSAGE.

The only explanation I can give is that some of Thor’s essence was poured into Mjolnir. Kind of like the One Ring with Sauron.

When I saw that, I went " yay child labour"

No, it’s a good point.

There is a big problem with the portrayal of women and children in our society. No Hollywood, not all women want to (or can) be a strong independant lesbian soldier.

"You'll fight before you can walk." -- Thor, aka Jarl ButtNaked

It's Disney. Of course they want to make children look and feel more powerful. It's a groomer characteristic. The more they make children look and act like adults, the more they hope it looks "casual" when they get caught with their pants down with them.

"Try get a wish at Infinity now you f*cking stupid bastard" _Thor continues to chop him with Stormbreaker_

All this shit started with Ragnarok. People need to stop defending that fucking film and remember how they turned what was Thor's darkest storyline on paper into a 2 hour-long SNL skit.

I just love it. Sif disappeared like 9 years ago in universe, there's absolutely no verbal catch up on what the hell caused her to disappear, Thor just laughs at her pain and makes jokes about Valhalla, Sif just laughs it off, disappears for the rest of the movie. Jaime Alexander was doing a great job and it was brilliant seeing her in Sif's current comic costume but this was trash. You wouldn't even know she'd lost an arm by the way she was speaking, the camera shot (which doesn't even show it) and them just joking around. What an immersion killer.

@@SolarDragon007 I HATED the movie. My gf and I played a game where we took a drink every time something pissed us off in a cultural context. Needless to say we were wasted by the end of the film. Diverse Asgard and all that shit.

@@SolarDragon007 dude I could not agree more. As soon as Thor said "Oh nooo Thor's in a cage how did this happen?" My heart sank. And when he was spinning in front of Surtur saying "I felt like we had a moment there" I wanted to vomit. Waititi is trash and only good for making stuff like Minions.

But Sif didn't die..?

Damn Thor hit some lows but learn to read and write runes no Google translate😂

That sounds like a really cool passion to have. The first two Thor movies had the slightest touch of Norse mythology about them, especially the first one. They totally dumped that element with Thor: Ragnarok.

@@ovidiudiumea4012 Yeah, all because people said “THoR iS bOriNg”. Ugh…

@@ovidiudiumea4012 Yea there was actually a decent amount or lore in the first one. The second started swerve but still had some. Ragnarök has a Valkyrie, for some reason they chose to do the exact opposite from what they did with Thor. Valkyrie is a title, not a name. Thor is a name, not a title. -_- They had Hel (Hella) in there but they fakked up both her lineage and lore. Shes not Thors sister but Lokis daughter and the ruler of the death realm. She wasnt trapped there really, she even had the entrance to her realm protected by Garmr to keep others OUT. Surtr (Surtur) Is in there and while he IS supposed to be the one to destroy Asgard hes not supposed to fight Hel but Freyr and he is supposed to die. But I guess I can look passed that, at least his story is pretty much what its supposed to be I dont count Fenrir (Also Lokis offspring) in Ragnarök cuz thats a PATHETIC depiction. That was just some random dog. All in all, Ragnarök pretty much only kept the Names and the movie title. -_-

@@anomaly395 those same people shit on ed nortons's hulk back in 2008. Now they want him back as bruce banner realising how ruffalo's hulk is a soyboy

The conspiratorial part of my brain wants this devaluing of family to be part of a plot. It's reminiscent of cult indoctrination, seeking to control people by convincing them everything else in their lives is evil, corrupt, and duplicitous.

Dude you’re trying to use logic here hahaha This is girl power, just consume and ask for more 🤪

I think they were trying to hint that because Thor loved Jane and Mjolnir and Thor loved each other, the hammer sort of became besties with Jane through osmosis and so would act to protect her because of what she meant to Thor. This was a pretty dumb idea though and was also not fully explained.

Thor imbued Mjolnir with a "spell" much like Odin did to test Thor worthiness. Thor told Mjolnir to protect Jane no matter what... yayyyy

@@jamienisbett9917 Even that was bullshit lol. Mjolnir was broken but had a mind of it's own and could just...reform itself at Thor's command but...for some reason didn't the moment Hela broke it? What a shit film.

Because bad writers gotta write bad. 😏

Sound's too much like WW84.

Maybe so, both are films that needed more polish before being put to print. A wish mcguffin is a terrible plot point.

@@messias5391 except without the really messed possession stuff.

@@darrengaroutte7744 "A wish mcguffin is a terrible plot point." They really should have learned this from Wonder Woman 1984.

Star was episode 9…

And her twin sister.

And do all the gun training and everything. What a legend.

Oof

Seriously. Tony Stark figured out TIME TRAVEL, Wakanda is a powerful nation because of a do-almost-anything macguffin metal, and Bruce banner is still one of the smartest people on the planet whose biology and radiation knowledge could at least be used to stem the tide of the cancer with some new kinf of chemo therapy or something. Yet with ALL that knowledge and technology at their disposal, there's still nothing they can do?!

Not to mention that in Black Panther, Everett Ross was paralyzed because he took a bullet in his spinal cord then thanks to Wakanda technology, the paralysis was reversed like in 10 hours later and Ross could walk again like nothing happened.

Also, how the fuck cant the asgardian healers cure cancer?

In fact, they found a magical way to speed it up. The cynical side of me wants to believe that it was a contrivance meant only for a single emotional payoff, but the REALLY cynical side of me wants to believe that the Cancer God is just as real as all the the other Gods except everybody is too terrified to say a single bad word about him.

Bunch of indoctrinating pedophiles, them.

I hate the “for kids” mindset. People always use that shit as an excuse. Like the MCU did not start out as strictly kid’s movies like they are today. And even then, it’s not excuse to just abandon good writing. People who say this crap are fans who have only seen the Disney stuff.

Grow up, it's a fantasy film with a rock man and god's in it.

@@tabbymoonshine5986 So what if it's fantasy? That doesn't mean shouldn't be good. Nor does it mean that we shouldn't judge the actions of those involved. And yeah, Hemsworth is not "natty." He's juiced to the max. Might as well just say it.

Movies have to make sense. If they don't make sense, they're just a random collection of pictures. So this means either that females have to be females, which necessarily means that they just cannot keep up with men physically unless some kind of magick is involved, or it means that females have to be males, which necessarily means that everyone in the universe knows that women are better than men and all police, soldiers, and guards are female. Too many movies try to have it both ways: females are superior to males in literally every way, but are somehow totally oppressed and ignored by males and never allowed to do anything. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

That's what twitter wants to see, so we all have to pretend that it isn't weird. Like how Finn was just running around screaming "Rey!" all the time, because what else is a man gonna do? Make decisions? Pfffft. I wonder if this is a sign of Disney's desperation. They seemed to be leaning towards mitigating the wokeness slightly but then sales got so bad that they had to just go full ham and beg the bots on twitter to save their jobs.

The lad was right

its been like this since the mid 00's, some time around the writers strike 08/09 it really went to hell.

How does this make sense? He can still watch those movies... even more choice now. Old and new.

@@robkneepkens5930 I'd call Rebecca.

I thought it was hilarious but I seriously think she just pegs him lol

Once you are nailing big directors, you don't have to bother putting effort into your work, silly. This explains that horrible Men in Black movie. This explains so much.

He had an adopted mom. Also thats how all of kronans are made. Your comment is completely stupid and ignorant.

Came here to say this

All of that bad policy because of a whiny Swedish teenager.

@@archstanton9073 I concur my friend. There's is a food crisis and at the same time they are going to strangle the most efficient farmers in the world. The globalist technocratic elite are sick to the bone.

You're spittin straight facts, but we need to reconcile the fact that women have been treated as second-rate citizens in almost every culture for countless generations. I'm definitely NOT defending entertainment culture's latest push to prove that women are naturally amazing and require nothing more than existing to become heroes and gods - it's fucking ludicrous and makes zero sense narratively, and box office takes are starting to reflect this. But I am attempting to employ reason to see this idiotic era through to its logical conclusion. This latest era of "wOmEN" is simply a knee-jerk reaction to women in entertainment suddenly being granted a modicum of power they have never had previously. And if we know anything about people in the entertainment industry it's that they're mostly over-privileged coke-heads who got where they are through fellatio or nepotism (or both), and retain nothing between the ears except a hollow echo of their own name and the sound of money being counted. It will pass like a kidney stone: painfully. But once it's gone, it will be gone and we can return to decent storytelling once again. Here's hoping, anyway.

@@danknfrshtv women are no longer treated as second rate citizens and haven’t been for quite awhile now. Way more men are in prison, way more men Kill themselves, way more men are doing the hard crappy jobs no one else wants like being coal miners. If the American traditions of the past, where a woman was to be provided for, loved, while she looks after the home and cooked is second rate then dang…I want to be second rate.

Mary Sue?

but that's how traditional male heroes are also... i dont get this bizarre conservative virtue signaling lol

@@scrtwpnx so, so many examples of how your comment is invalid. One of the principal narrative focuses, traditionally, was the journey to becoming a hero. It was so important to convincing and entertaining storytelling that "The Hero's Journey" became a flexible system containing all the components required to captivate an audience through a protagonists suffering, loss, discovery, learning, training...jeez, it's like you've never read a book or watched anything made prior to the Transformers movies. Your statement, much like contemporary cinema and TV, ignores ALL traditional storytelling methods and practices. And capping it off with some kind of correlation to "conservative virtue signalling" and a "lol" just exemplifies exactly your level of education and understanding. Go back to commenting on TikTok and let the grown-ups engage in grown-up discussions.

Both media makes no sense. Mjolnir is strong enough remove chemo ... but not strong enough to remove cancer cells?

@@ericpowell4350 In the comics, Mjolnir interpreted the cancer as part of Jane's biological body since it was made from her cells and not hazardous. Therefore it didn't remove it from her body.

Oddly those were the recipe for many terrific films in the 70s and 80s.

​@@kamandi1362 *Scorsese takes a bow and gives a wave

@@roymunson1 Dude gave himself a heart attack by doing so much. That's dedication.

The disappointing thing is that Taika is perfectly capable of making good movies, but his comedic style starts to get old if it’s drawn out for too long.

I had the same thought after Endgame. As i left the theater i recognized the franchise was no longer being made for fans. You could feel the Disney tentacles tightening their grip since their acquisition of Marvel. The spider man films are the only ones i had any interest in but im so burned out on disney comedy i just can't bring myself to watch them.

I've only seen far from home and no way home in theatres since endgame.

@@TheHalfrican5 No Way Home just didn't work for me. . SPOILER ALERT . Caging most of the Sinister Six in your basement just to joke with and insult them? Then the dialogue between the three Spider-men that's so obviously calculated to move you? It's nothing special. I never thought about it after seeing it, until now. There aren't any scenes that resonate. There's nothing as memorable as the upside down kiss. It's just pleasant noise.

@@johnstrawb3521 Exactly. People are sick of the Member Berry joke, but that's literally all No Way Home had going for it. " 'Member Tobey? 'Member Andrew? 'Member their villains?"

Sounds like you were following Robert Downey Jr. More than Marvel. But hey most people were.

Many actors these days are reporting that they don't even know who their costars are or what their takes on their own characters are until they see them movie themselves. Each role is shot separately in front of a green screen and then built up by editors after the fact.

This strategy does have merit, as it did with Empire Strikes Back and the Bespin Duel. Everyone was kept out of it except 4 people: Kershner, Lucas, Hamill & James Earl Jones. All further scenes, like the scene on the falcon where vader reaches out to luke, where leia, chewie, lando and the droids are right there with him, were kept secret. But still, the actors knew the whole storyline of the movie. Only a few moments to hide a twist was kept secret. This is when this strategy works!

@@lord2.0works that actually sounds clever. Unlike the things marvel did which sounds horribly dumb.

Rangarok couldnt really pick between being comedic and being serious, but it at least had the decency to keep somewheat serious in serious moments and it was actualy enjoyable

Ragnarok had serious moments and didn't overdue with the humor, plus most of the humor landed. We also had Banner and Loki, and Ragnarok led directly into Infinity War.

@@hughjereckshon1232 Serious moments like when that “rock man” joked about Asgard getting destroyed towards the end of the movie? Everyone who loved Ragnarok deserves this movie.

But at least they aren't as stubborn as the people who still defend Mass Effect 2 and 3, we're making progress really.

This movie would have been 100x better if they never made it.

I would have watched this

That's the way the God Butcher story arc worked in the comics. Then after that story Nick Fury tells Thor that Gor was right, which makes Thor lose his hammer and leads to Jane Foster wielding it.

Biggest missed opportunity of all time....playing Thunderstruck over a Thor ( THE GOD OF THUNDER) fight scene

"would of" is terrible grammar. You mean *would've, which is short for would have.

As a dad to 15, 13, and 11 year old girls, I can attest that girls in that age group couldn't give a rip about any of this stuff (except Spiderman because Tom Holland is cute I guess). Seems to me focusing on the boys who would be inclined to like this sort of content would a wiser business move.

Stunted critical faculties, no sense of the value of money, pester power, fanatic loyalty to their fixations, uncritical nostalgia decades later (eg: the mum demographic going to see superannuated boy bands): they're the perfect consoomer demographic.

Actually the chosen demographic are college-aged women but they are functionally the same.

@@gottesurteil3201 very true

I guess I'm pretty lucky then. We play Warhammer and our GM is really good - he throws a lot in our way, but still wants us to succeed. I mean, we were on verge of death more than once but it always felt like it was our fault or bad dice rolls.

Dang, I hate when that happens

Totally agree, it’s a bunch of scenes thrown together.

@@jasonsangwin4006 Lots of movies feel like that

It's Padme time!

I cried when I heard that kind There was so much emotion in it

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Yeah Taika ruined Thor's arc from his own previous movie.

Her critique isn't even accurate. Infinity War Thor was still the God of Thunder. The issue in IW was that he was facing another God who happened to be wielding a massive, interstellar death weapon (the Gauntlet with the Power Stone). Remember, we don't see how that first fight went down but there's an insane amount of destruction and casualties on the bridge, suggesting Thor put up an incredible fight in a five-on-one situation before being subdued. Thor's entire quest for IW was therefore to find a tool that would level the playing field. Stormbreaker is that tool, like Mjolnir was, and it works, neutralizing the Gauntlet for those key few seconds. God on Titan, he's a match for Thanos; it's his failure to seal the deal AFTER that, and the realization that at his absolute best he still sabotaged himself and got everyone killed, that causes his physical and mental meltdown. All of that is COMPLETELY consistent with Taika's Thor, who needed to let go of his reliance on Mjolnir to hit his peak. It's the peak that matters, not the tool he's using at the time - the proof is how at the end of Endgame he has BOTH weapons but loses rather easily because he has let himself go so badly. As you pointed out, THIS stupid movie then shits on that abjectly by having Mjolnir not only make a Thor, but make an instant PEAK Thor because Natalie is immediately better at everything than Thor is. Taika ruined his own story arc after the Russos painstakingly continued it!

@@lordjimbo2 I've already hit her with something close. I believe my exact words were close to "Thor has unbridled power on his own, which is devastating to large groups of opponents, as seen in Ragnarok. However, against an opponent as powerful as he is, or stronger, unbridled power just isn't good enough, as seen with the Thanos VS Hulk fist fight. In real life, weapons serve as force multipliers that can make a normal person tens, or even hundreds of times more deadly than without. Mjolnir was no different, and therefore, Thor wanted another weapon that could help focus his power, which would give him a chance against a being wielding more than one Infinity Stone." She still responded with a rather generic sentiment along the veins of "I just didn't like it," which tells me there wasn't much substance behind her response to Infinity War's depiction of Thor beyond "it's not funny like Ragnarok was."

@@occultnightingale1106 You've done all you can. I had a grown woman walk out of this movie and say she "had to watch it again" to form an opinion on it because she spent the whole movie waiting for Loki to show up. Literally nothing else in it registered with her because she wanted to see Tom Hiddleston and was so laser-focused on his prospective return. Disney can break even with people like that for a while longer.

His takes on the rings of power are brilliant

it's almost like they WANT to fuck things up.

It’s just baffling, honestly.

That would have definitely made the movie better. You know, make it actually reasonable to attempt to "fix" people since the multiverse won't collapse Killing potentially millions.

I agree. It’s like they can do better storytelling in a comic due to them not worrying about mass appeal like they do with a multi million dollar film. The problem is that they were doing a good job of getting it right at the beginning of the MCU, now it’s just film by committee.

They sure did! And all because they HAD to have Christian Bale (they wanted his star power to get more butts in seats at the theater) … they also wanted people to recognize him easily, so they just panted him instead of going with a more accurate portrayal of Gorr. They sacrificed making Gorr an awesome character (as he is written) to get the normies to watch it cause it Christian Bale added to the celebrity list. Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

Disparu rips amazon's woke of power apart.....good lad 👍

If they don’t want to insult anyone, why approach everything with humor? That’s WAY more insulting. I mean, I agree with you, it’s just that logic not only doesn’t make sense, it’s completely backwards.

I’ve worked nights for 28 years. Nights are tough to adapt to especially if you don’t change your daytime habits. I see people all the time who run around all day instead of sleeping then can’t handle night shift. I’ve seen people who expect to sleep on the night shift. If you are stuck doing nights, you HAVE to learn to sleep during the day. Once you master that, you may like nights a little more. I like nights because I drive as part of my work, and traffic is better at night.

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Full Fat has a good video about fat Thor that would change your mind, maybe. His failure in Infinity War wasn't small. He screwed up. And he was still competent, just rusty, not in shape. The movie after that could have been very interesting.

@@O1OO1O1 Regardless of how big he screwed up, it is NOT in character to completely give up and just say "nah fuck it being a hero is hard" because it does make sense if he breaks down... but to become a PATHETIC FAT SLOB? OF ALL THE THINGS POSSIBLE???

Honestly, fat Thor is a most "realistic" portrayal Thor for the mythology. He eats his goats for dinner and then they revive the next day. Less Mr. Olympia,more world's strongest man.

@@nanakufuor1800 Now Thor being Fat sure that's one thing, but him being Fat in Mythology was because you needed fat to maintain energy in those cold winters in which you could die freezing, ALSO, it was also said that Thor was a beast of a man, fat sure but YOU WOULD NEVER EVER MESS WHIT HIM, now what kind of "Fat" Thor is? He is a pathetic slob who can't do anything anymore, that is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the most Braindead idea you can have for Thor, making him a sad loser is just them shitting on him for the lolz.

I used to love the hulk. Especially 2008 hulk and phase 1 hulk. I hate soy hulk ruffalo. They completely ruined hulk. They should’ve never made Mark Ruffalo the damn hulk.

Lady sif as "king" would've been better lol. I've always liked her character. Valkyrie is intolerable and was never an interesting character tf did thor (god of jokes) give her the throne

Yeah and him not being able to give speeches to the masses is silly as fuck he’s thousands of years old come on this is his fourth movie lol he’s done all this shit before and then they sort of just make fun of his depression. That bit played weird for me.

Which would’ve also been a great opportunity to show that thanos was a perpetual, forbidden to die because he’d insulted the afterlife or something, and so he returns and does the snap anyway, explaining why the only way to defeat him is to let him win (so he regrets his choice and realizes he was wrong)

That was like 5 movies and 4 tv shows ago. You shouldn't expect the director or the writers to remember basic continuity.

@@Adamatronamus even if it’s the same Director?

@@thunderstruck6647 This director? No.

Indeed.

Z💯

That’s exactly what it was like.

Yeah it was so much more grounded and realistic, not to mention actually cared about telling a story. A lot of people sleep on Phase 1 in general outside of Ironman and the Avengers. Now it’s all just Saturday morning cartoon shit.

I thought the first Avengers was the top because they actually accomplished their goal: the characters, brought together, were a bunch of alphas that had trouble getting along, but ultimately found a need and a way to work together and still be themselves. You needed all the other previous movies to establish the characters to make that work. As the MCU drug on, however, they very clearly lost the thread for many of the characters. They start acting differently for no reason, and when they get together all continuity is often thrown entirely out the window. Seeing all the movies will only confuse you instead of inform you.

@@HerculesBallsInc 💯

@@HerculesBallsInc Yup. They do not care anymore. These movies have become nothing more than a product to sell…

Amazing, fantastic actor. That’s just sad

Was also baffled by everything about Russell Crowe. What on Earth were they thinking with his portrayal of Zeus? Gladiator, Master & Commander, LA Confidential, A Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man to that…cringeworthy

Don't hold your breath

Yes, they took wrong lesson from its failure. DW was not a great movie per say but it was a good Thor movie. They didn't have to reinvent the character of Thor to make a good Thor film. They just need to write and execute good script.

Dark World was also written by the same guys that wrote the Captain America trilogy and Infinity War, aka the best writers in the entire MCU along with James Gunn

I'm the Carol and you gotta deal with it!

💯💯💯. Sooo true

I thought I was the only one LOL - particularly HIS character in that movie as the tech CEO or whatever...was one of the most annoying performances I've ever seen! I feel like he acts like that in real life

His acting was terrible in that movie 😪

Can't wait to see what he'll do with Star Wars, haha, Disney really deserves this

I really am not of fan of Waititi, cringe and overrated director

@@MrShonH he is totally like that in real life, which means terrible acting

Fleeting is a good way to put it. Exactly what I always thought of this but could never think of the word.

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It will fade away into the wind

When I first watched that part, I just cringed for how forced it felt. Yeah, Jane, we know that in the comics you're called Mighty Thor, but are you that willing to wink at the audience at the expense of the story?

Those ppl probably were annoyed by some mosquitoes , not bcoz of thunder karen lmao

😂😂 to bad tika what ever his name is forgot to remember

Port-PERSON, bigot 🤣

I choose to remember her learning to shoot a sniper rifle. I think she did her best acting when she was still a kid.

@@NicholasBrakespear Her best acting was in Revenge Of The Sith and Annihilation(2018), in my opinion

@@NicholasBrakespear - She certainly was a precocious child actress. Leon the Professional was all kinds of good!

Same. I would be down for that

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That’s a hellava dream at this point

I know that in reality he'd never do it, but I dream of a universe where Martin "fuck your capeshit" Scorsese gets to show the kids (at heart) how things really are done and give the viewers something with depth and gravitas.

To do that they would have to be disowned by Disney

Same. Instead of watching the movie, I’m watching this instead

"Please do my thinking for me" 🙄

I'm not watching it

Yeah, and their content is very reliable, too! Sif never died in the movie by the way.

@@michaelthompson3286 Right? I'll never understand how you can watch/read someone else's feedback about something and then decide whether you like it or not based on THEIR opinion.

Same, Ragnarok was just a silly comedy which took away from the serious moments and Love and Thunder amps that up to 11. Half the dialogue in L&T was just exposition and the other half was dumb jokes.

It’s a good comedy movie, but a horrible Thor story. To enjoy it you either need to detach yourself from the emasculation of the character, or not know him in the first place. Ragnarok owes its success to the later.

Rip LOTR

Legend.

Literally MCU in a nutshell. Wasting good actors with mid scripts

Taika Watiti is the reason Thor was turned into a fucking clown. Don't spare Ragnarok from your scorn, because that film is absolutely guilty of smothering a potentially good story with self-indulgent comedy.

Isn’t this how Ragnarok was? I remember everyone loving that movie despite the jarring transition between it and Infinity War when dealing with the same subjects.

Yeah it’s kinda sad

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George Lucas: *whistles nervously*

@@lordofthepizzapie9319 That's who I primarily had in mind. I'd say Will Ferrell is another.

Bore: God of Blunder and Frightening(ly bad writing and shit humour).

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The first Thor film from 2011 is still best

There’s a reason for that. The divinity that Thor represents is pure unadulterated western masculinity. Thor of the myths is not someone to be trifled with. Thor gets shit done and cracks skulls doing it. They don’t want any young western boys getting any “toxic” ideas. So they downplay his divinity and degrade his character.

@@proudsaiyanprince2651 my man nearly drank the ocean in two sips

*Surprised Pikachu face* 😂😂😂😂

Imo the worst comedy moment in the entire mcu is in infinity war when they cut from the tragic scene of gamora’s death to okoye joking about Starbucks

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@@idawg7332 Why didn’t they cut that?

Infinity War was still awesome tho, in spite of that.

@@idawg7332 For real. A lot of people say Infinity War was the last good MCU film with stakes, but honestly the only thing carrying that film was Thanos. If you ask me it was still just as cheesy with the only real drama being Gamora’s death and the snap sequence. But I think the worst comedy is definitely Ragnarok and now Love & Thunder.

They definitely, seriously are

I just think Watiti is either running out of ideas or growing a massive ego. Everything since Ragnarok has been shit. He was cringe in Free Guy, What We Do in the Shadows isn't funny anymore.. he will coast and get his own projects like Star Wars and we will continue to get silly generic movies from him.

I feel Ragnarok was pretty tonally consistent. It didn't feel like every scene needed unnecessary jokes or gags. For example Odin's death, Thor and Loki in the elevator, Thor's vision with his dad, are all played straight. And I think Thor was really well handled in Ragnorok. Yeah he makes more jokes but the core of his character is intact. And he's still allowed to be badass at times.

My first reaction to Ragnarok was that it was too much humor - in exactly the way you state. Scenes are broken up by jokes every few minutes. But, I was told by others how great Ragnarok was, so I suppose I got used to it. This movie sounds like it is Ragnarok on roids. I don't know if I can take it.

Watch that scene in End Game again, Captain America was able to conjure thunder. However, he didn't have all the powers of Thor.