If it works traditionally then rapid trigger doesn't make you a better gamer than what you currently are.

how the duck you comment this in the same minute posted.

@@joelconolly5574 not worth the price point lol

@@joelconolly5574 No hardware upgrade makes you a better gamer. The only purpose is to give you an advantage and rapid trigger does that.

Sad thing is, that this keyboard will sell anyways because its Logitech.

litteraly😂

They'll be arranging an internal crisis meeting ASAP, guaranteed 😅

Hyped for the Optimum Wooting

They aint sleepin bro. They just gave up.

Lol

Why do you think you have to register and sign in to use the drivers?

I wanted to touch them so bad, but I just could not touch them....

He ment because he reviewed a logitech keyboard

@@sak-atWork are you just disagreeing for fun?

@@sak-atWork read it again, slowly this time

xdddd

@@sak-atWorklet me paraphrase in a way you’ll understand: Optimum reviewed logitech’s keyboard but he put the link of wooting instead of it

If there is market pressure on them to change they will. But that will take the average consumer buying competitor's products to send the message. If people keep buying overpriced sub-standard equipment, it validates their cost-cutting measures on the production side.

They have not updated the 920 webcam in years and it's still $60

yeah they've gotten comfortable with just being "better than razer" but nowadays even razer has rapid trigger, even if it isnt as good as wooting or steelseries

Everyone that's talked about this keyboard has shit on it. This video is late.

@@boinqity4621 Razer V3 has surpassed Superlight, too. How the mighty have fallen... .

Makes sense why it still has the old Windows logo from 2012

THIS

😂😂😂😂

this alone genuinely makes it worth over any competitor despite how hard they can be to get your hands on

and you don't even need to download it if you use a chromium browser the keyboard has storage and will save whatever settings you have no software required

I’m so sick of every company wanting to install god damn agents and updaters. I want a wooting mouse for this exact reason. Wooting everything if it means no agents ffs

I've got several Logitech mice and while I'm mostly happy with the hardware, the software side is just convoluted and frustrating. Especially if you want to set up macros and different functions for the buttons.

G Hub is actually great... LUA scripting, macro recording, etc etc etc. The problem is the products aren't worth the price. I love the G305. I've modded mine with kailh and pink dot switches. It's great and it's only 35 dollars. If was anymore it wouldn't be worth it though.

Superlight

Honestly even the 3S has issues that should've been solved a long time ago, namely the scroll wheel inconsistency. That issue was present in the Master 3 and somehow managed to stay unresolved for the 3S. Not to mention the rubber coating on the mouse that just degrades over time from skin oil. I'm just waiting for a different mouse that has both smart shift and a side scroll wheel and I'm probably switching right then and there. The only one even close is the Basilisk V3 but that doesn't have a side scroll wheel and their version of smart shift just isn't as fluid and responsive as Logitech's.

😂

No need, their keyboards and brand have been doing super good ever since the 60HE dropped, they already know they have the market by their neck. They don't need to laugh anymore, they just focus on making their keyboards better and better. That's why Wooting is the best imo

Who's rooting?

@@ms3862 I'm rooting for you!

@@ms3862 The company/brand Wooting. Did you not watch the video where he mentioned them multiple times?

bro i couldnt believe it and went to check its really micro-usb and even when its on sale its 180$ WTF 😭

That’s the main reason I’ve never pulled the trigger on the 915 TKL. It’s absurd that they’re still using micro USB! That port is going to be wrecked after you disconnect/reconnect three times

@@BEARTAC0S i using this keyboard and is light years before all. soo video like this is mambo jambo

@@sasourbic636 i reading this comment and is light years old all. soo comment like this is wambo wumbo

@@alb9022 i feel like wambo wumbo is a great way to describe your comment actually

Amazon has a habit of shipping refurbished products even though you select "brand new". Easiest way to tell is if you are able to find a white sticker that starts with LPN. This has happened to me several times and I'm glad that sometimes it's very obvious when something, especially tech has been repackaged. I'll find the LPN sticker to confirm my suspicions and immediately start the return process. They usually give me a brand new one on the second attempt, for now.

I know its really hit or miss but try calling them and asking for a real person (they spam you with an AI help bot). The person on the phone helped me out as one of my buttons stopped working 2 months in after i bought it from amazon and gave me a new one.

2 year warranty is with amazon, not logitech, as amazon sold you the mouse. If it's still less than 2 years, get in contact with amazon. They'll usually refund you no questions asked.

Damn, has Logitech support taken a nose dive? They treated me insanely well around 2019ish, after which they had my loyalty.

Looks like another case of enshitification

Probably on purpose, my first Logitech mouse lasted like 7 years 😢

considering the amount of RND that went into the original G pro vs the superlight 2, I think you are right

@@wenimechoinasama2 I only bought the Superlight 2 for the sake of more tactile clicks and USB C charging. Otherwise I would've just taken the first

@@PainkillerX12 Nah, it's been 6+ years at this point.

Definitely, I would just go the custom route and come out with something better lol.

they were definitely smoking something

"Basic" is generous. That keyboard looks absolute SHIT.

@@jet613 fr you can build a WAAAAAY better keyboard for that price point , i hate logithec so much lmaoo

Not me paying 250 bucks for a topre

Yeah my keyboard actually has a switch on it that lets me choose Mac or Windows mode, is metal with removable keys and switches, can do bluetooth, wired, or highspeed wireless dongle, can set up to 4 devices at once, and is cheaper than Logitech's mechanical MX series by %40... no way I am going back to Logitech. Now I am on the lookout for a good mouse. My MX Master 3 is kinda disappointing as the cursor moves super slow on the fastest settings. Looking for something that can set at least 2 devices, can do bluetooth and 2.4ghz dongles, and is USB C rechargeable, if anyone knows a good device? My wife has the G705 which is nice but a bit too small for me (I don't have big hands but this particular mouse is designed for female hands).

@@destructodisk9074check out the keychron m6 :)

@@destructodisk9074 if you're on a Mac then you might want to adjust your mouse acceleration settings. If you can't do so with Logitech software, then SteelSeries used to have an universal tool for adjusting mouse acceleration

@@destructodisk9074 What keyboard are you using? I need a keyboard that can quickly swap between different pcs and your's sounds like the perfect fit for me. I'm currently using the MX Keys which works really well when swapping between multiple devices

@@destructodisk9074 how are you gonna say all that but not say the name of the keyboard?

8K HDR10+ 120fps DOLBY VISION IMAX*

4k is not HD lol

​@@guinea_horn Maybe they meant HDR

Has Razer really improved that much? I've been burned by them too many times to ever buy one of their products again.

@@TheRealFlamingNinja Yes, they have. (its amazing) Especially in comparison to Logitech. Their mice are *mostly* industry-leading (i.e. Viper v3 pro, DAv3 pro, counter i.e. RVMSE), you know, 8k wireless, great qc, best shapes on the market (though that is subjective), their keyboards are trying (though wooting still has them beat), their headphones are still mid but better than logitech. Logitech meanwhile have been almost going backwards with how bad things have been for them lately. Keyboard releases are dumb, mouse improvements are either nonexistent or minimal (i.e. the GPX 2, g502x), i dont know much about logitech headphones. All while Logitech has been charging more for less.

@@OzymandiasMC my issue was always the switches dying on their mice, I lost like 3 mice to that. I don't think I'll ever buy one again.

Until Razer completely remakes the borderline malware that is Synapse and then makes it optional for some of the tournament products like Logi does, they’re not competitive. I’m on the wooting and a Zowie mouse now and god it feels so good to not have all that trash on my PC

@@TheRealFlamingNinja Everything except for their Laptops seems to be fine. Overall, everything is still a bit overpriced, but they're a huge brand so its to be expected anyway.

Yeah it really is especially because it really is just a basic mechanical keyboard Aliexpress sells keyboards like this for 10 dollars with free shipping

basic? its half a keyboard! when 60% means pay 60% more per switch... xD

Basic? It's literally lacking

wirelss, 60h of battery life, extrrem low latency and rgb backlight and software support, I want exactly such a keyboard give me a cheaper alternative

@@sensei_... exactly. People be commenting about cheap keyboards but those $10 keyboards misses a lot of features than my grand father.

They don't fix anything in that shit app

G-hub, from a user friendly piece of software perspective, is absolute garbage. Seems to have been designed to look minimalist without a single thought towards intuitive design. Every function requires a google search to find out how to use. I hate it I hate it I hate it

what? you wrote a LETTER to a billion dollar company? I hate to break it to you, but absolutely nobody at that company read a letter from a random person. Thats comical.

@@absolutelysobeast Generally if the company provides the product which is nice with slightly issues, I usually send the message to them. I love to see the service keep in good quality. Of course as you said ,I am just one of the daily nameless person , so it is understandable that customer service reply shit. meanwhile you can think twice whether you should keep using the same company's product or not when you make your purchasing decisions. don't feel too upset with life, just a bad product and don't need to feel comical or badly

@@tazer4391 I stopped buying Logitech products once they all required G-Hub. I've had nothing but trouble with that POS software

Or at least price it accordingly. I can understand if an upcoming pro player can’t afford spending more than $100 on a keyboard, so they would get something slightly cheaper from a decent brand. So then pricing an average keyboard higher than the best keyboard in the market is just delusional.

Too bad they probably started from a perspective of, "we have a budget of X and promised the executives X% profit per device in order to get this green lit"

It also bought Saitek, maker of expensive but unreliable flying peripherals. They’re still expensive, and still unreliable.

I mean the blue yeti kinda s*cks for its price but they managed to make an even worse and more expensive "upgrade" lmao

Hopefully it's just the case and keycaps or else I'll have to get a second 60he just for this

The G5 was never the best mouse on the market, not even close, but it was a breed of a different era in terms of build quality. Sadly, you can't really expect that nowadays.

how long do you expect a product to last you? The fact that you would expect ANY compensation after 4 years is absolutley mind blowing. You used a headset for 2 YEARS straight and thats somehow unacceptable to you? Im not sure where you think you live, but this is planet earth. I honestly cannot believe your entitlement, its absolutely ridiculous

@@absolutelysobeast It is not about what you expect, but about what you feel like should be able to expect. Those two are similar, but not quite the same. I feel like if I purchase a comparatively pricey peripheral and a distinct problem emerges during the first 4 years, I will for sure let the retailer or manufacturer hear about it. Politely asking how should we proceed now. The response and service I get will be noted. As a result, there are manufacturers whose products I am prepared to pay a premium for, and other manufacturers whose products must be less expensive than the competition available for me to even consider purchasing.

@@absolutelysobeast I expect pheripherals to last at least 5 years. Maybe you're American, but consumers in Europe tend to have longer warranties than just 1 or 2 years. It's unreasonable for a 150 euro mouse to have buttons going bad after 2 years.

@@npyrhone2 dude 4 years? I mean if you use something, its not going to last that long. If you use something like a mouse or a keyboard daily for 2 years i dont understand how you expect more than that? Maybe 3 years, but i honestly cannot fathom having a thing for 4 years and contacting the manufacturer and asking them what they are going to do for me? I mean dude that means that you are still using a thing now and would expect compensation for something you bought before the world even knew what the hell covid was? I CANNOT understand that. A mouse or a keyboard is a piece of plastic that you touch every single day and press the buttons hundreds of times a day.

This tells me everything.

Wake up

@@OfficalMineTechHD he's alwys praised wooting before the partnership bro

True. Logitech has literally never made good keyboards.

Honestly, what did they even EXPECT with this keyboard? The first time I’ve ever seen this keyboard is by HipyoTech’s review. It was absolutely so insane, hilarious, and especially disappointing from a big brand like Logitech to even produce something LIKE this. It looks very basic, and I bet it feels basic as well. There’s no KEYCAP or SWITCH puller, and for the keyboard modders out there, if you wanted to hotswap it for different keycap, you literally can’t. You can’t switch to any other keycap if you tried. The software looks ridiculously mediocre and boring in my opinion. I gotta say, I have never been a fan of software. Hell, I have an Apex Pro Full from SteelSeries, and holy SHIT, it is annoying. The software has garbage I don’t use, in which the only thing I use is the “Engine” for the custom actuation points (Rapid trigger is included as well). Overall, for Logitech, they are in hot water, and I feel like it will only get worse in my opinion in the future if they keep releasing terrible stuff like this. For the epic of $180, being nearly the price of many high-tier keyboards today like the Wooting and some of its competitors, I find that so BS and hilarious that people would buy a keyboard that probably isn’t worth its high price tag.

hey! my G710+ lasted me 11 years and i only just replaced it this year... with a non logitech keyboard

Most people consider the G15 to be the first gaming keyboard which launched in 2005. It was pretty much awesome by default and that was within 20 years! ^_^

No, it is not. Logitech has been bought by an investment fund in 2021. It takes a few years until the shift becomes clear to the consumer, as old products with a few tweaks are being sold as "new" are being released. As an investment company, you want to maximize profit, while minimizing expenses (this works well for food, agriculture, cars, etc, not so much for "high end" peripherals). This was inevitable, and easily foreseeable for anyone who reads any news, ever. Going forward, Logitech will continue to release "parts bin" products priced as premium, until the investors recoup their money, sell licenses and trademarks, or various divisions are bought by various companies who then churn out various products using the Logitech name (see Philips), or they go bankrupt. The wider context is super important. During the pandemic, sales most likely went up, and based on the really positive but very incorrect forecasts, tons of money would have been invested in the wrong direction, money which now unavailable for fast enough and high quality R&D. As such, churn out old tech which you then try to pass as "current gen", fresh, flagship, etc. Sadly, it takes a long time until this becomes clear in the sales figures. Expect many years of even worse products.

now

Take all my money or my kidney i want it. ( even thought i already have the woothing 60he )

Take my McClaren!

Yea, would be curious to know timeline. That fade looks sick. Would definitely get if it’s before the Wooting80HE release.

Bro this collab is gonna kill the keyboard game. Logitech absolutely shook.

i had been using a corsair hs70 wireless headset i bought when i got my first gaming pc a few years ago. when i finally tried to upgrade last year - knowing much more about pc gaming at that point - i tried the g pro x v2, partially for convenience since i was still using logitech m&k. only having to use one piece of software was alluring. however, at 100% volume on *everything* the audio was muffled & surprisingly quiet. yes, firmware/software was up-to-date & g hub was functioning as expected otherwise. returned to place of purchase to swap out & had the same problem with the second unit. returned again for a refund & decided to try the very well-reviewed audeze maxwell headset. sound quality was fantastic on those, but they had a fatal flaw (imo) in which any video, song, or media source i tried would have zero volume for the first few seconds after play/pause with no apparent way to correct it. audeze customer support was arguably the worst i've ever encountered, unfortunately. after weeks of absurd back-and-forth emails, i was finally able to return the maxwell & eventually receive a refund. ended up replacing the battery on the aging corsair unit with a higher-density cell then replaced the ear cushions & am still using it daily. --- filed under "i'm frustrated and this is good enough lol."

I still like the ergonomics on the g915, but the quality for the price is insulting, same thing with the keycaps and the battery is getting worse FAST

G915 is ass especially for the price

Corsair has a keyboard with magnetic switches that has variable actuation points and rapid trigger and the ability to map 2 keystrokes to one key for example a light press of the "W" key would make an in game character walk but a harder press would make them run

im not spending past $280 for a keyboard. gaming or not

Not really. In term of pure gaming competitive-ness Wooting is still on top. The typing feel are trash but you can't argue with the input responsiveness. Custom keyboard are now trying to do hall effect, but their software is more often than not pure junk and their implementation of features like rapid trigger is all over the place. Personally I'll still use a regular contact based custom keyboard for the superior typing feel because I don't need that competitive edge.

@@PSS395 QMK is great software. You can program it without having any application installed on your PC and is an open protocol, so you can as example create your own effects. Between my 200€ Keychron and my 160€ Corsair K70 mk2 there's just no comparison by how much better the keychron feels

@@PSS395 Wooting sells a custom keyboard kit, you can basically buy just the mobo. I LOVE Wooting but agree that for anything other than gaming it isn't necessarily better than a mechanical switch, but all-in-one wise Wooting is killing it.

Yep, both obsessed with quality and attention to detail. Good combo!

I'm pretty sure they said they wouldn't do it because it would chew throught the battery immediately.

Not exactly an apt comparison

@@microgamestation how so basically just copied wooting with no benefits of it just like what fast fashion does copy trend and does it worse

@@eeenshahopefully it ends with this keyboard. I still remember my g102 and boy that thing is so good at that price.

@@eeensha it's not like wooting invented 60% keyboards lol. What exactly do you claim they copied from wooting?

@@eeensha Fast fashion 'tends' to be cheaper

Lol, they're not even as successful as the OLD nokia.

Actually yes, there’s currently no match for wooting, except wooting

@@lostwinter5637 LMAO you ain't wrong xD Jokes aside the only board I'm aware that's faster than Wooting is Rakka (Holy60) and they can be purchased on KBDFans but it won't be the case anymore. That's the only board that's so close to performance.

@@lostwinter5637 Magnetic switch keyboards are starting to appear like the Keychron Q1 HE

I have the G703 Lightspeed and I'm extremely satisfied with it. I tried different mouses, even the flagships from Logitech but returned them all and stayed with G703.

The curse of big public companies - their stock price becomes their main product. The resources are sadly going to stock buybacks and dividends. Let's hope they don't lose their way.

Not exactly a hard concept tho.

I dont get how 65% isn't infinitely more popular. Its literally almost the exact same size as one of these 60% keyboards except is actually usable because it has arrow keys. If Wooting makes a 65% analog keyboard I'm instantly buying it. The 80% they recently released feels like it would be too large after getting used to 65%.

Ye except Corsair still make decent PSUs and cases, Logitec relying completely on peripherals.

Nah dont insult corsair like that, they miss sometimes but they still make good stuff

Corsair has magnetic switch keyboard with rapid trigger and 8000hz.

Their only decent products are gpx superlight / gpx superlight 2 / g305 I wouldn't buy anything other than these their headsets aren't great speakers are mid keyboards are really bad

@@ciesloskyyou forgot the g303 shroud

I doubt it. As long as their shareholders are happy they won't improve anything. Niche keyboards aren't a market that will even show up in a quarterly report.

@@XiaOmegaXNot sure their shareholders are gonna be happy when their Gaming brand dies. Stuff like this takes a while but eventually it's gonna hit their bottom line.

@@HuyV lol a failed 60% won't even make a margin difference to logitech. Gaming is 26% of their earnings report. 60% keyboards are probably 0.001% of that. It's a niche of a niche of a niche. I'd also bet the sales numbers of this crap are meeting their corporate targets. Gamers will buy it because they dont know better.

Amen brother, even tho i'm a cable guy, i see your point

Gaming from the couch with a lap board so wireless is great.

Same. Although I use logitech peripherals for office and work use only. Their bolt dongle is the most reliable wireless connection I've used so far.

You must really hate having to charge them then

@@Crazyblox batteries do last long

ahhaha yea obviuously, their pricing is kind of outrageous if you ask me

I have a g915 and its battery degraded SO fast Not my superlight tho, so idk what thats about Also the abs keycaps edges started completely wearing of after less than a year I get better prices on logitech products where i live, but everything but certain mice and maybe some headsets feel like a scam by now

Thats all sweet and shit but not when this garbage product costs 180 dollars, its an overpriced 50 dollar keyboard. It brings nothing to the table that we havent had in the last decade.

That only lasts if they release quality stuff. They can stay afloat but they're going to lose market quick, as KZfaqrs keep releasing these disses to them. (rFP, Badseed, etc.)

They are gonna keep losing customers though because not many people are gonna buy overpriced trash when there are so many better options now.