And where did you verify this statistic?

I've had both matte, glossy, and semi-glossy OLED displays. Matte on the latest W-OLED monitors sucks. Where's your God now?

@@phahqI've had Matte on the latest OLED monitors as well and it I prefer it over Glossy. Where's your God now bud?

@@phahqimo I prefer matte

I dunno I am sat in front of my AW3423DW and have a matte mini led monitor at my other set up and it would be much better as glossy

with optimal content as well! Gotta love it!!!

What a poor comment. Do better

@@riomendoza1111 irony

@@riomendoza1111 wtf

Semi gloss would be a good balance

Don't get your hopes up too much because a common complain with these LG OLED monitors are that the coating looks oily and grainy. I don't know if it's a person to person thing if Optimum can't see it, but matte is most certainly still a big issue for a good deal of people.

@@noidsuper Yes I think it also depend from constructor to constructor I'm pretty sure that asus matte finish still sux even in 2024

This very concept is what people can't grasp

Thing is that my room layout has no reflection issues. So I simply have no need to compromise and am glossy all the way.

@@noidsuper I can't see any grain on my OLED LG monitor from 2023. Did you verify these claims in person or did you just pass on hearsay?

He says that in the video

​@@CertifiedSlamboywho gives a shit just let the guy say his opinion

@@CertifiedSlamboy my bad

Agreed, color and details aren't necessarily compromised when it's done right. Hopefully more companies jump on this train.

Yeah I agree, I think they should probably find a new word in between both, that will be more representative of the actual coating. (Something like Semi-matte or semi-glossy for example) I tested one friend 240HZ OLED and is not as matte as I thought. I myself have a QD-OLED, I'm happy but when I open the curtains during the day, the Monitor looks more like a really good IPS, because the blacks are more of a gray. OLED technology is good. Most people that spoke about matte or glossy coating are expecting the matte from an IPS and is nowhere near that level of matte.

Misinfo presented in a good way is still misinfo. This video is literally light matte vs. semi glossy. The problem is that he doesn't know what he is comparing.

ok then make a good video with perfectly accurate points, stated facts , not even a slight mistake allowed. prove by A+b that one is better than the other one. lets see if you perfectly know what you are talking about then.@@Deffine

@@Gekihen_ Poor attempt at apologism.

@@Gekihen_pepega response

@@Deffine just want to know real information since this is misinfo, and why this is missinfo. Tired of hearing waa waa matte bad

and which one do you prefer now? Curious. Glossy?

He consistently makes the best content

just due to muscles

Also the fact that this is good second channel reaching 1 mil is astonishing

And he doesn't waste time asking for like and subscribe, or sponsors.

I am not writing this to attack you just to point out a funny irony about certain things, but "Exactly the comparison video I have been looking for weeks." you dont happen to try and find this exact comparison from "The display guy" right?

It was a well known behavior of the coating on QD-OLED panels in TVs. After all, we saw these panels first used in TVs, not monitors, and the people do well detailed reviews of TVs in general and the information is readily available from there.

Yes WOLED all the way, I didnt wait 15 years for OLED monitors just to stare grey image of QD-OLED.

Then again if you can use the monitor mostly or exclusively in low light environments, the QD-OLED colours win.

Yeah, its very hard to not shine a flashlight or studio light into monitor to avoid these raised blacks. But hey at least you have washed out colors and no burn in warranty. But who cares about that?

@@MrM-dl5zm LOL. Even normal ambient room lights wash out QD-OLED blacks. Proven by Optimum, LTT, Techless. The colours on WOLED are definitely not in the same league as QD-OLED, but they are still very good. Overall a much better package for many... INKY blacks at all light levels + very good colours... versus INKY blacks and excellent colours only in low light rooms... grey blacks and excellent colours in lit rooms.

​@MrM-dl5zm Yes, it's pretty hard, actually. At the end of the day it depends on your situation.

Such as no USB C or Dolby Vision support.

​@@MaZEEZaMwhich one is that? Also why would you need either of those things?

Even though they are calling it matte it's actually a semi-gloss coating, not full gloss but semi-gloss, it's definitely not a matte coating

The matte finish on this monitor is not as bad as some people claim it to be. Matte in general is getting a bad reputation and I don't like that people are being shamed for liking it. I do think it would be good to give consumers the option of matte or glossy but crying over someone's opinion is not a good solution. Keep up the good work with your videos by the way my friend.

yea this dude is just cringe

How?

Yes how??

@@jrlivingspaces Couple ways. Damp paper towel trick then peel. Or go ham like I did and use a box cutter blade and get under the film and lift / cut it off. There is another ways also. Simple google search will get you quite a few results.

Having used glossy and matte displays, I'd prefer matte for a monitor personally. That mainly comes down to working in an office environment or a room with ambient lighting from a window. I'll take hazy blooming over sharp reflections.

All that yap to say absolutely nothing at all. This panel isn't even really matte so your breath is wasted. Lol.

All that yap to say absolutely nothing at all. This panel isn't even really matte so your breath is wasted. Lol.

Hope the cooling fan will be silent

big mistake

@@imbeepy it has been amazing, can't hear the fan at all. The Matte finish is perfect for my setup, esp during the day. Been playing Valorant at 480hz and then 4K goodness for everything else.

@@imbeepyhow do you enjoy your 720p monitor?

@@gudadryckful asus has better 4k 240hz

He's shilling, but take him for his word anyway.

@@DrakonR explain in full detail how he's shilling

@@JosoLifts when you receive products to review, it tends to skew the bias. Just saying.

@@DrakonR that's not a thorough explanation. I'm pretty sure they sent him both products so what's your take on that. He didn't buy any of the two monitors I'm pretty sure so his opinion still remains unbiased no?

If there’s a light shining directly onto your screen from a light bulb or window buy the matte. If the window’s behind your monitor or it’s not very sunny where you live then get the glossy. Glossy isn’t that much clearer. What’s the big deal

I hate reflections, that's why I choose matte. The problem is that the people that prefer glossy will never understand this. When you mention this you will only hear them say "but matte also has reflections, it just scatters them and makes the whole display worse", well sort of, it scatters them, makes them less noticeable and makes it possible to read text and not see my own reflection. Personally I choose no reflections over a bit better contrast and text clarity.

@@pasi123567 i was never personally bothered by reflections until I used a surface laptop 3. I found it really bizarre considering I'm used to using glossy displays everywhere since I hate matte displays. That display really triggered me that day and I understand how you feel. Having said that, my Macbook is glossy and not an issue whatsoever. I have never thought about reflections. Not once. I have also used the surface book 2 and surface laptop 2, all of which had the same issue. It was really quite extreme with them.

@@pasi123567 Agreed.

because you see glossy qd oled, and qd oled have much more vibrant punchier color then woled

Can you hear the fan Inside the Monitor?

@@lukiohearn173 Not unless I have audio from speakers muted and I put my ear contactint the air vent.

​@@lukiohearn173 If you are sitting in a generell quiet room in front of your Monitor you can hear it. Yes, a little bit of sound, Music or an Open Window will overshadow it. But if you sometimes sit in silence then you can hear it. The worse part is actually the Violet somewhat reflective Bar at the Bottom of the Screen... But on the positive the LG was already very early available for good discount. The Corsair is Fanless and with an much Cleaner Design.

That is what I am afraid of as well. I ve been rocking with C2 42inch and I love everything about it except being too large for desktop use. However I am almost sure, going for matte woled or semi-glossy qd-oled will make me sad about the exchange. We need 32inch WOLED with same polarizer application and full glossy as on TVs!

Actually WOLED has better overall brightness.

@@CasepbXnot in this video it doesn't lol. All the colors look brighter and have more contrast than the woled. And that's not just my subjective opinion it's backed up by factual review measurements. If you want my subjective opinion, as someone who owns a woled TV and a QD OLED monitor, when I put them side by side the HDR colors look significantly better on the QD

Wish I could get qd oled colour volume with LG perfect blacks. (qd oled black levels are worse than LCD)@@Relex_92

QD oled black levels are worse than LCD with any ambient light involved. It only has perfect 'oled' black in a pitch black room.

Its only sharper on a microscopic level, in a real life setting where Microsoft refuses to fix this issue the QD Oled is really bad with text clarity unless Microsoft actually makes it as "good" as it is in microscopic level

@@definingslawek4731 Yes unless you live like a goblin in a dark cave with 0% light glossy goes closer to grey than black.

Bingo. My 27GR95QE-B has an easily perceptible nasty oily coat. That doesn't mean it's not a good display. It's just not as good as my WOLED Glossy TV. I want that picture, at 4k and 240hz. I want to know, did they improve the matte finish on the new panels vs the old.

I absolutely agree man. We prefer the glossiness of the polarizer layered LG C1/C2/C3 TVs. QD-Oled is not glossy IMO when you have a bright environment black levels are impacted while on LG TVs they are not and appear as inky blacks!

because matte is simply better dealing with reflections and people usually have more lights around when on a PC compared to watching movies in the living room. there is a reason why like 95% of monitors always use matte coatings, glossy coatings on monitors is actually quite rare with OLED being a niche exception, and iMacs.

@@patrikmediaso here are my takes; - why there is so much rant and demand about glossy products then? - why oled TVs have it all the way super glossy and successful for generations? - why our mobile phones have it full glossy when we are basically using it outdoors with tons of light? I disagree with your argument as it is rather subjective but if you prefer matte, it is fine. It should not be generalized.

Exactly this. Even if it’s less matte or whatever it’s still not as good as glossy.

Reports from the matte-critical crowd and the macro shot of this panel seem to indicate it's the same coating.

@@hugevibezIf this is the case then I cannot possibly understand how Optimum does not see a difference when the problem has been so widely reported. It’s not just conjecture, many users of these previous monitors have made similar observations: oily and grainy coatings.

@@noidsuperagreed. Such a shame they ruined the appeal of this monitor with a matte coating. LG failed once again.

The thing with phone screens is that you can move them to avoid reflections at a moments notice. Also theyre usually so tiny that youre not gonna get a great viewing experience anyway and most reflections will uniformly take up the entire screen. Monitors, being larger, reflect way more different things in the room. I personally find it pretty distracting to have my face and upper body superimposed on my monitor the entire time and having a matte coating makes that much less severe. Its totally fine, if you dont have any problems with reflections in your room, but I dont get how matte coatings are supposed to be unnecessary. Especially since you can usually choose between options and the image quality loss is imperceptible on most coatings. Especially compared to glare.

@@great_lake Move them to avoid reflections is only somewhat valid. For the most part, when you're outside you're not removing anything by moving it, everything is too bright. Our brains are great at removing reflections though. You can stand in front a shop window and see your reflection if you concentrate on it. By default you're just gonna see whatever is behind the window because that's what you're focusing on. Glossy monitors work like that as well. Not to mention, the mirror reflection is very dark, it's not actually like a normal mirror. If there's an image displayed on your screen you're not gonna see your reflection at all unless you specifically focus on it. I feel like most anti-gloss sentiments come from people who try it but are automatically in reflection-detection mode. If you were to just use it for a while you'd realize it's a non issue. Not to mention that anti-glare coating don't really remove reflections anyway, they just diffuse them. So instead you get large blurry blobs of light which can be just as distracting if you focus on them.

I give a damn because every phone I have ever owned has a matte screen protector. When I look at a screen (phone, monitor, TV, etc), I want to see what's on the screen. Not myself or whatever is behind me. I would gladly take a dip in quality that I will NOT see than a glossy coating/finish that I will DEFINITELY see.

@@commandwolf713 Yeah hey, at least you go all the way. Kudos to you. That's not the vast majority of people though.

@@gigantoad3261 I mean fair enough. I dont really use my phone for anything I really want to have a good look at in the open anyway so its not like I mind the reflections much. With monitors its probably just different for individuals. I personally find diffuse reflections much easier to block out. Of course actual bright lights will suck whichever monitor you use. I just think its neat to have the option for both, even if it means theres more work in choosing a display. (Hey wouldnt it be great if there were like actual shops where you could compare different panels instead of every retailer moving all of their inventory online?)

True, and the Samsung panels have, even if they are glossy, an anti-reflective coating that is superior to the LG glossy TV displays. The reflection are sharp, but darkened to a high degree on Samsung panels.

Isn't that his point? Matte screens aren't really matte anymore, at least for monitors.

@@ArdentMoogle True

Exactly

​@@ArdentMoogleno that's dishonest, most mattes are cheap mush nonsense.

qd oled are better

lmao - good catch

that’s a QD oled. Expected to be a little brighter than WOLED. So this is due to panel differences and not due to matte vs glossy.

@@LukeZhao My guess would be more cleaner coating + higher color luminance of qd

So my G9 Neo that can reach 850+ Nitts has better colours than Oled with that logic.

You won't notice fringing. Text is tack sharp same as you won't notice letter shadows on LG panels @ 4K

QD-OLED does not have a glossy coating, its semi-glossy. Even TFT Reviews site calls them semi-glossy. They have a slight haze in the coating. Its easy to see if you compare it to a glossy LG C2 for example.

​@@Deffine Yes both monitors is somewhere inbetween

@@Deffine Still its more "clearer" than matte, even optimum showed in his video macro shot. Best of both worlds. The only is lacking is polarizer that would be helpful for those who live in more lighten up rooms.

@@Deffine Exactly! My Alienware 34" dwf everyone says its glossy but its not at all. It's matte still and prone to scratches so freaking easy. I completely removed my matte finish on my Alienware dwf qd-oled. Best thing I ever did. The colors pop so much more. Wasn't that hard to do either. Just a little time consuming.

I would like to see such a comparison too.

This is a quite niche preference.

​@@jamesmcjamesington631 Sure, but WOLED have near perfect text rendering if you disable clear type. I own the old 27" LG OLED, where ClearType looked much worse.

@@jamesmcjamesington631 It actually isn't if you consider the fact that tech took 2 decades to give us mass produced OLED monitors where clear type trickery might not be needed

People are just not realizing this and listen to marketing youtuber and end result is the comments section below.

The entire video you watched just explained how that's not a glossy vs matte thing. The panel brightness, contrast, and quality are highly likely to be responsible for the way you feel about that monitor, dude.

@@jamesmcjamesington631 yep its just WOLED vs QD-OLED, nothing to do with it being matte or semi-glossy.

@@jamesmcjamesington631 I had a neo g8 which is miniLED and it’s brightness is far superior than any other type of panel, but its matte finish made it look like it’s oily and dirty. There’s a weird rainbow hue on whites. So yeah it’s not only “the brightness and contrast”

@@chy.0190 But that just isn’t the case. Users of glossy LG OLEDs TVs immediately notice how poor matte WOLEDs look. Hell, a consistent complaint for WOLED monitors with LG panels was the distinctly noticeable oily look the matte coating gave them. This isn’t just a WOLED vs QD-OLED thing.

graph sniffers

Enlighten me. What else of a headphone are measurable in terms of quality? Not trying to fight here, truly wanted to know I bought a Moondrop Chu before truly based on its frequency curve and I kinda got let down by it. I feel that it makes my songs sound low resolution.

Or people just have preferences based on their past experiences of monitor panels.

​@@maozedowner5915I don't know about objective metrics, but the subjective sound profile is the most important thing to me. I don't care if a headset is objectively worse than another as long as it sounds better to me.

@@maozedowner5915 After spending thousands on headphones and selling almost all of them I realized that how a headphone makes you FEEL matters much more than frequency response, popularity or a KZfaqr's opinion. Today I use galaxy buds 2 pro every day because they sound great to me. I have IEMs more expensive but when I use them it feels like they're missing something even though I know they are "objectively" great and every reviewer says they're perfect.

Ikr. I reckon it's due to a great lifestyle mindset and philosophy. Careful, mindful, aiming for substance over flair.

​@@Un1234l nice analysis, well said

He is honest.