Hit the nail on the head. My father does the same thing when he goes out. When we get into a argument, he wants to tell everyone in the city how disrespectful and disobedient I am towards him. That’s something I would never do to my father, but I only tell about our relationship to those who are close to me like friends or co-workers to seek advice in handling the situation. None of my Mom side of the family likes him, especially his side of the family. My brothers and sisters don’t get along and don’t bother to visit him because he’s never understanding, reasonable, too quick to judge, doesn’t take criticism well, and ridicules you by degrading your self-esteem. He expects me to say “Hi”, “Good Morning”, or “Good Evening” to him the next day and acts as if the argument we had never existed. Lastly his scapegoat is using religion/the Bible as a counterargument, when realistically it never pertains to the topic we’re arguing about. So as of right now I don’t pay him no mind and act like he doesn’t exist. I understand that’s my father but the why he treats us is not how you would treat others like that.

Yeah, they know that the people close to them have already been 'won' over, so they don't have to make any effort, but with new people they want to use their oily charms to curry favour. It's disgusting.

@@platinum476 Mate, I'm sorry you have to deal with that, I have the same with my Dad...how do you handle it? I think keeping distance and be on the watch for those behaviours in me and how I treat people.

@@youhavetogotheretocomeback I mean I live with him, but I still don’t pay any attention to him at all. As long as he doesn’t bother me or ask me for anything, I’m straight. He’s a stranger to me so I can careless. Sounds harsh but!… I can’t change his ways.

@@platinum476 Cool man. Just note that I shared some stuff with you there and your response didn't mention or respond to it in any way. Lots of "I" and "me". Not calling you out for being a narc, but that's certainly a tendency. Good luck with it all.

That's the absolute truth.

basically Biden

Boo the fuck who. You poor little victim.

I can relate. Though if it's a one one one conversation I perform better than regular people due to the my ability to fully control it. I'm both a narcisist and a sociopath. However, I absolutely suck at social interactions involving more than one person for the simple reason that it's a/ harder to control and b/ I have to listen to multiple people and I really don't care about anything they want to say unless it's about me, or unless I'm talking. For example, public speaking, I'm flawless at that too. As for the reason why 1 on 1 conversations work so well for me is because these conversations occur with either the few people I care about (relatives / loved ones) or people I try to get something out of. Idk what the best way to explain this is, but to put it simply in group-based social interactions, it starts with my not wanting to hear anybody due to an absolute lack of interest, followed by high levels of hatred and overall negativity due to not being able to speak for extended duration. There's been people in the past that've claimed I have social anxiety but that's literally the exact opposite. It's more of me stopping myself from standing up, saying some really bad things to everybody and leaving in group-based interactions.

@@themacocko6311 who hurt you

I think the father reacting like this is a tiny bit related to the fact that he is self aware and what he’s saying to his son or whatever he was doing is wrong, but I see a lot of comments on here saying “he fully knows why the camera needs to go and he’s so concerned about the video because he’s abusive and he knows it” When I tell you this man has not a single clue or idea that he’s the abusive one he thinks it’s all rainbows and flowers he’s not self aware that there’s a deeper meaning behind the recording no one gives a fuck about what the PowerPoint does he’s recording to showcase how absurd a narcissistic parent can be without ever realizing at any moment that he’s the abuser!!! So clarification for most of these comments he has no fucking ideas he’s narcissistic and probably denies narcissism as a whole!! Just doesn’t believe in it at all and yes my father is a full on narcissist and yes I’ve tried to record like this before lol

Same with my parents

mine too

90% of Baby boomers are like that unfortunately

my dad literally called me superficial bc i said i was sick like tf

Or maybe they just don't tolerate any shite and just simply have the balls to stand up and say what they feel? Trust Me, You don't know so many things!

@@ProjectCreativityGuy96 No, what you are talking about is someone who is honest with themselves. It's important to understand the difference between Honesty and Narcissism. But what you are talking is also just straight pettiness, which is a big part of who a narcissist is. So you got that aspect to them correctly. Good job. Narcissists will try their best to come across as the victim. They cannot ever be the aggressor in their eyes. Everything is everyone else's fault. They will lie, and manipulate to make everything sound like everyone else's fault. Someone who is honest will admit their own mistakes, and look to be better because of it. They will call you out but also take accountability for their own actions. They will not look to manipulate you, or other people into believing they are the victim.

​@@ivanstayner8818well I make a mountain of things..but that's only with my trigger human..

... @ivanstayner8818 @eternalyujis frl, first of all, put your self in your parent shoes for once, second of all, you most likely talk shit about your friends a few times, dont you? And maybe a parent get harch for you saying your sick bc thay may not want you missing out school... you dont want you wasting parts of your life, do you, well they nether want you to waste parts of your life.

@Thomas Anderson I didn't say he had a permanent stutter, jeez. I said I know that feeling of that stutter when you're frustrated. I've seen his actual channel. He's allowed to post content other than conflict between him and his father.

@Thomas Anderson and anyway everything is recorded you can see for yourself what's going on.

@Thomas Anderson 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Omg are you the dad?

So true

@Thomas Anderson so your saying he's lying correct?

same with me my whole life, and my dad turns everyone against me and everyone thinks I'm the crazy one

I’m adopted and my when my dad gets mad at me, he says at least I know who my real dad is, knowing how much it hurts me. Never have I felt loved by him.

My mom is like that and that's why my parents at getting in a devorse. She tries to make me seem crazy, I can so relate

Cynthia Scott God bless you hon! You’re so sweet!

wasassabi k god right

"You're adding fuel to the fire!" ~ indeed, foiling their gaslighting!

This...

Same with my mum

do mothers count?

Both my parents are like this

​@@AB_HTof course they count why wouldn't they?... Lemme guess you think females can't do wrong?

@@seamusohoulihan666 lemme guess... this is a joke?

Thomas Anderson I can’t quite figure out if you’re fucking around because it’s written but I really hope you are🥴

Thomas Anderson Okay you made it clear😂 You’re fucking around

Same. My father would just agree to everything my narcisstic mother says to avoid more drama. It sucks

Yup. My dad to a T.

@Thomas Anderson My mom is fine. She is a great woman and has always veen patient with everybody. My dad however, is extremely difficult and to this day I go back and forth because as soon as I start forgiving and trying to move on he does something else to hurt me seemingly on purpose and that can make it hard. It isn't like I enjoy having those feelings so....

miles ♕ this comment made me realize why I stumble when people actually listen to what I say. It makes so much sense and hit home hard. Thank you truly, this comment helped me understand. Hopefully I can move forward and be more confident in my speech in the future, though it's hard.

I can relate

Dude I can totally relate 😡

Damn, I realized the same thing. He's used to not getting to finish his sentences so when he gets the chance to, he's not used to it.

omg is that why i cant ever fucking finish a sentence without stumbling over my words every 5 seconds

@SlimJ1980-Eire Totally agree...hope he's doing ok today 🙏❣

@@LassieSgryou sound like a narcissist to lmao wtf dude u cant be serious. if the dad cant talk to him right and has treated him like this his whole life this poor dude had a shit childhood. the dad needs to grow up snd take accountability for his actions.

​@@LassieSgrRents are too high, especially for younger people,college students,etc. He does need to move out, many people need to move out,even before age 18, actually. These high rents force people to live together who should not be. The parents are abusive anyway. He should simply stay away from them until he can get his own place. In California, it's almost impossible to do this right. The year 1981 was the beginning of the end of successful adulting. I wouldn't want to be his age for anything,tech or not.

​@@3SeveredHeadsHe shouldn't be home whenever they are. I hope he pays some rent, keeps his paperwork off premises, an affordable storage unit.

​@@LassieSgrHow is he bullying or threatening or intimidating them?

The dad's the one who will suffer the consequences.

Reasons defined. I am 😂😂😂😂😂out loud .

if dad and grandma decide to sue, then yes, kid will suffer the consequences.

My niece and nephew grew up like this. They're adults now and won't talk to either parents.

@@sagebaun6101 they're the ones who will suffer the consequences.

Yes it’s easy to see that the wife and son are not rational and reasonable by the cognitive distortions and logical fallacies. People of the lie. That’s how abusers manipulate and dominate. The son doesn’t even know he is lying. Just like the lying addict mother. How’d you like the part when she tells the dadget along by getting to the heart of the matter which is getting along? Circular reasoning. Political shit weasel. How about when 5he English professor says so I’m always to blame? Hahaha. Living with heroine addicts no fun.

Narcissists in their make believe world imagine that anger is a sign of pathology. They calmly play mind games with straw man, red herring, tu quoque, pleas to pity and ridicule and incredulity, and do all the same things they accuse the scapegoat of. Double standards. So superficial they learn a little about narcissism and use it to be even more manipulative and dominating. Look at this idiot describing the unreasonable narcissists as reasonable. That’s what evil people of the lie do. Luckily there is a name for every distortion and fallacy they play. What people like indigo girl don’t do beyond her narcissistic empty assertions and mind numbing cliches where she callously flips the script, is engage in actual reasonless deliberation about the actual facts. Thanks for the excellent example of lying empty ehtoric.

The rational, reasonable and calm is a superficial guise the narcissist wears because they stupidly think an angry reaction to their games or the victim standing for his basic human rights is pathological. Meanwhile they lie every time they open their mouth. With haughty arrogance and omniscient certainty and projecting all narcissistic traits in their primitive minds onto the scapegoat. They falsely accuse him of wveryth8ng they themselves are doing. Notice how the son shades the dad that asking for help is interrupting and fiddling with another parameter is ignoring but he withholds these resentments and acts out and then lies about why he walked away. He changes the story and flips the script that dad changed the story when the reality is that he rushes to judgement and doesn’t use critical thinking. He keeps the false and petty accusations coming one after the other. Families like this are taught in recovery to level with each other and to resolve issues reasonably. The people who are evading reasoned deliberation are the wife and son. The ENGLISH PROFESSOR DAD could easily teach them how to talk reasonably in order to GET ALONG. They don’t listen to him. He is right. They all need to sit down together and seek truth and find meaning and understanding. Share their perceptions, thoughts, feelings, beliefs, rules, values and principles. And listen to each other and negotiate. Any decent father would be concerned with a son who walks off angrily and silently in the middle of a job and rushes to judgement that dad isn’t supposed to be annoyed or give honest feedback. Next the son will report back to wife who then punishes dad with these sick mind games. Her language patterns are cluster b. He is absolutely right. She is an addict who lacks insight and needs to deal with this. There is something wrong with the son. She was callous about the effects of her lies to the son about dad and she is too self deceptive to understand or care about the consequences of her actions on others. She is weak and lacks self insight. Neither she nor the son self reflect or reflect back to dad his humanity. He is an object in her drama in a rigid role. She withholds the truth that she told son daddy is an evil monster who doesn’t know how to talk to kids. We see the son acting out the original trauma in a repetition compulsion for fifteen years. Issues go unresolved because she is not honest. She speaks in empty assertions and circular reasoning and vague generalities. With an air of superiority and omniscient certainty. But she can’t explain how to get along. Dad knows. Hang in there and level and talk openly and fight fair. She is irresponsible and has been scapegoating him for decades. Secretive and deceptive. It can cause schitzofrenia and neurological diseases in children. Her and the sons behavior Is crazy making and they know all about it in addiction recovery programs which she did not pursue except superficially and to validate her preexisting distorted beliefs and sick values. In other words she used the superficial knowledge she learned to be even more manipulative and dominating. Her and the sons abusive script is a well known game you can see in any homeless shelter among cluster bs. They should write long letters back and forth and the ENGLISH PROFESSOR could easily teach them how to reason honestly and logically. We actually do have objective standards of morality and reason in this world. Her rules are anti social. We see the son act out the sickness that he can do whatever he wants when he eats the plants on grandmas table half naked like a gorilla. He can do whatever he wants and they better not say anything about it. If they do he will kick in with the global labels and overgeneralizations and spar with word salad and report back to the wife who pretends she is Switzerland while “getting” dad with her distortions and fallavies like a common low level sociopath.

The son is parroting the wife and is her pawn. He needs to seoarate and individuate and stop playing her ally and enabler in a childish covert war against the dad who is obviously superior intellectually and morally.

@@misstmemrs Ok. Ive read your points over and over across the entire comment section of this video, how do you come to the conclusion that the wive is an addict?

@Thomas Anderson wow you can't see the toxicity and are asking about what must've happened 15-20 days before lol. Is it that hard to Identify toxic people. I hope you're not the toxic one

Thomas Anderson unfortunately narcissist parents drive you to do things that you normally wouldn’t do as you feel desperate to prove that their behaviour is inappropriate somehow. These situations can build up for years and can lead to some desperate “cries for help”.

Especially when you are a child.

@Thomas Anderson Oh haha! WHY was he still at home?!

He looks old enough to walk away from it.

I know it well, it took almost a decade to formulate sentences and complete them

Can someone explain to me why this happens?

The son suffers from parental alienation syndrome psychosis and it is the wife who is the pathological narcissist. This is a common triangulation game and you can identify the narcissists because of the cognitive distortions and logical fallacies. The father here is being bullied. If you are only seeing the superficial picture her then you have narcissistic traits yourself.

Same :(

@@xaviersfitnessjourney I can relate to this so I'm goin to tell you why happens in my case, When I'm trying to talk to my dad(a narcissist) he always cut me off when I'm explaining my point of view, he don't let me explain what I'm trying to say, and that happens every time I talk to him and have a disagreement, so I'm now used to it, therefore I always stutter when I try to talk. *Sorry for my English 😬 Im not good at it but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say

So true😭😭

More like mopping the ocen w/o a mop bucket , and the bucket wouldnt even work.

You mean narcissistic son ...

Arguing with any narcissist is like that. Covert narcissists are dicks but they're victims in their own right; usually of abuse as children, and they have an inferiority complex, so their brains develop that delusion of excessive self importance to counter their low self esteem. Grandiose narcissists, on the other hand, have had everything fed to them on a silver platter since day one, so they expect it to continue throughout their lives and never understand how reality really is; they're truly the fucking scum of the Earth and deserve nothing less than to be impaled with a flaming stake.

you phrased it beautiful.

Thomas Anderson bro what????😂😂😂😂

Thomas Anderson 5:45 Theyre literally talking about going on a jog and swimming YOU did NOT watch this video😂😂😂

Thomas Anderson Thank you for your very boomer input.

@Thomas Anderson Your son is much more successful than you, you suck worthless idiot.

@Thomas Anderson lmao youre the one coming up here for attention and getting everyone pissy, snowflake

@Thomas Anderson shut up dumbass

I know the type. My step dad is one. He will personally attack and mock you if you stand up to him. Much like this weirdo that comments on everyone freaking out

@@ratqueen3809 he's been doing this for months. He's saying stuff that has nothing to do with the convo, then leaves once he's wrong. That's how narcissistic people are online. Let us pray for him 🙏😇

@@ratqueen3809 he is the dad. There was someone on here who did a thorough search and the pic was the same as the dad in the video. It's so pathetic lol.

@Thomas Anderson you've even admitted it yourself on another comment thread. Move on with your life because your son has.

😂

SO OBNOXIOUS!! smh lol

D.A.R.V.O. in action. Wish we had video back in the 80's, but I grew up thinking this was normal. 😢

1 in 200 ish people are narcissists and they usually dont get along well with other narcissists. both of your parents were not narcissists. considering that you were completely wrong about this, there's a good chance neither of them were. what did you do to get them to dislike you so much?

@@MrTedMcForehead I believe those stats are incorrect. Also, even though you never met me or my parents, you assume it was me who messed our relationship, when in fact, my father was the one who caused everything. I guess I got unlucky. I can’t explain why I was put in a shitty situation and a random person on the internet should tell me what I do or don’t know about my parents.

​@@MrTedMcForehead oh, you're weird. how r u gonna say their parent's aren't narcs when you literally don't know what happened? do you think everyone has a healthy life at home??? this video and other videos abt toxic households made me realize my dad is a narcissist himself; like this is exactly what i deal with 24/7. ur disgusting and abuse is a very real thing.

​@@MrTedMcForehead Wrong. Dr. Ramani says, 1 of 6 people is a narcissist. 🎉🎉🎉

exactly

Basically.

That is absolutely true.

Crazy man realest comment I’ve ever seen

real

Gabrielle Hendershot \(^-^)/

Precicely

Righttt

Gabrielle Hendershot mememe

Literally me just now

he likes has a very good reason to most of the time, if not all

Yep. I suspect my mom has borderline personality disorder but her parenting style was 100% narcissistic. She would have higher expectations for us than herself. For example, she once snorted and called me a rotten child so I snorted back and called her a rotten mother. She later told me I owed her an apology for that and I told her that she called me a rotten child and should apologize to me.

That's gaslighting.

Fake Normality I agree, and feel so much for this guy. seems like this is a toxic living environment that has beat his self confidence down to shit when he tries to speak to his father.

Yeah

I stutter sometimes and people interrupts me allot and it makes me so frustrated.

Same

Fake Normality now I don't take that, you wait til I'm finish

Thomas Anderson fuck off you dumbass, don’t fucking say anything if don’t have anything good to say you fucking narcissistic bitch. Get a fucking grip bro.

@Thomas Anderson are you the dumbass being filmed?

@Thomas Anderson No I am the president of Russia.

@Thomas Anderson thi s grown ass man is not a kid. He needs to get his own apartment, or move in with a friend.

It's even worse when they make you feel like it's your fault and deserve it

Nobody cares .

That's NOT true!!! Alot of people do CARE!!! Many people as children grew up with this same kind of ABUSE!!! Back then WE just didn't have the language to explain what was happening to US!!!

My narc. father when he was mad at my mother was also mad at me & my brothers!! Collective anger is really a nasty/evil thing & also "irrational" & possible " dangerous"!! I had to live with it in my childhood & teen & youth years!!

zerono pluto smh

literally my mom. If I dont do exactly what she says without question, then I'm disrespectful and I have to go talk with God xD but I'm and adult

In a narc’s mind they are NEVER the problem. They have a victim complex and will never get help. It’s a mental personality disorder.

I’m pretty sure that’s parents in general

Yes he needs to understand that the addict wife is a narcissistic triangulator. The son has a psychosis and is mirroring her disease. The son scrutinizes and nitpicks and moves the goalposts. He acts out and then pathologizes the reaction. He spars with word salad like the wife. The sociopath games she plays are an inferior person who thinks she is superior. You can’t resolve issues with her because she is the control freak and spars instead of reasonable argument. The son needs cignitive therapy, alanon, and a doctor of integrative medicine. His original abuser is the wife. She has them pit against each other.

Growing up with a father like that i totally would not have thought that that was NOT a normal behaviour.! Thanks for pointing it out

Don't argue with Thomas trust me. Just pray 😇

@Thomas Anderson is she worse than you an ADULT kid 50+? Hypocrite 😂.

@Thomas Anderson I'm talking about you! How you put everyones opinion down to try n make yourself look better. Heard you were about 50 from some random so it's funny asf how much of a crackhead you are

@Jennifer Green holy cow that's worse than these "free inhabitants" people 😂. Thinking people must obey with the stupidest things

It's exactly like how you described too. Over such small stuff.

Thomas Anderson found the boomer guys

@Thomas Anderson Bruh you sound like your IQ is smaller than your shoe size. P.S. Please don't spank me thanks

@Thomas Anderson Oh sorry sir. I'll try to do something more respectable with my life like replying to nearly every top comment on a 5 year old video with weird spanking threats.

@Thomas Anderson Bruh I never counted your psycho ass comments, I've just been looking through the comment section and made an estimate. I don't want anything more to do with you and your creepy spanking fetish.

@Thomas Anderson Listen man I just don't want to be apart of some perverted old man's weird spanking kink. I mean, you seem really interested in slapping the asses of random kids on KZfaq. We don't need to stop talking, I just don't want to be part of this weird sexual fantasy. Also, when did I count 410?

Or maybe he knows that his son will post it on the internet for 2.5 million people to see.

Pretty fucking much.

Yea.... or mabey because its a complete invasion of privacy

somehow, I doubt this would have millions of views if he wasn't emotionally abusing his son.

they are so disgusting, total gaslighters.

@@user-hr2tu5yr1i I hope you get better soon dude you sound like a really good person 👌

@Winter I promise it will get better 🎉

@@plant2188 I hope you and your sibling is okay 👏

@@ms.playboyinternational393 I'm so sorry to hear that you deserve so much better I'm sure others love you very much

@@ronnie3988 thank you, you're so kind

Bella Reese truth, you'll never hear an apology or hear them admit they were wrong.

Bella Reese I had a child with one and I am always and I mean always the problem lool. I have learned to deal with it

wow, so you people think this father has a problem ? this is a spoiled brat that literally is recording his father because he called him obnoxious, and well he is! and if the father doesn't want to be recorded he shouldn't have been recorded in the home he lives in !! plus how old is this kid? looks well over 18 to me and if he doesn't like it get out. That's what I would have said. that father didn't yell, scream or holler at his son. far from abusive, if my child would have pulled that shit he would have had that phone shoved so far up hisasss and if he likes posting things online he would have a great video he could share.... his Colonoscopy ... on youtube. the problem in this family is the mother is siding with the son. and I'm sure she does all the time. he has no discipline and never has. because if he was the perfect child he is trying to make himself out to be he would have listened to his father when he asked him not to record him. That's literally what the entire recorded argument was over

maybe pay attention. the house is not his fathers... The house is his grandmothers. Maybe check your ego and realize children are human beings not just something for you to command and hit

Kenny Gentry that father did not hit his grown ass son. But number one thats not a child and number two this is all because he called him obnoxious? Lmao do you not see how spoiled this kid is. C'mon.

yes, he said ''it's your son'' because she is literally leaving and avoiding all parental and spousal responsibilities. narcissists dont care about ''revealing themselves'', theyre unaware of their behaviour. people that say this are so ill informed

i honestly think it's a smarter thing to do to not argue with dumb people and save your energy

Exactly. if the spouse doesn't do anything she's also an enabler

The mom seems kind of sketchy though, mostly siding with the dad

omg are u sibling or smth? so relatable 😭

I go through this all the time

Luna Moone right! What an asshole!

Or maybe he’s just trying to be calm like his son was asking him to do...

Jeb Helsing calm, maybe. But he was still refusing to take blame for his behavior or apologize for calling his son obnoxious when clearly his son was trying to help him. He didn’t even thank his son for the help.

Exactly

Well his son has a roof over his head and a camera to record his life. His father isn’t doing that bad. This type of family talk shouldn’t be in the Internet. You were obnoxious and instigating the situation. He didn’t want to be filmed respect his privacy. Be thankful

Got that right.

Yeah, definitely...

💯

Like the argument would have changed if he wasn't recording. Yeah right, oh yeah it probably would have been different he probably would have thrown the cookie jar at his son

One day, the shoe may be on the other foot. Oh what irony then.

Jay Pea yes yes yes

I noticed the stuttering immediately and I couldn’t handle it. My heart just broke because I know way too many negative reasons that causes sich talking behaviors and with a dad like that I just knew it was one of those reasons. I‘m so angry right know and I’m not even two minutes in, I really wanna punch the life out of his so called father.

Or maybe he cant think of a reasonable argument as to why he's causing so much distress to his parents by ignoring their privacy. The son is being obnoxious here, so why shouldn't we believe he was also obnoxious in the first instance. Maybe if he was spanked more as a child he wouldn't turn out like this.

Veritas Aequitas what is wrong with you

Asal L why? Is that supposed to be some kind of argument?

Yeah...

Me 2

Yep

Ya isn't it weird that it suddenly popped up?

Me

it feels like ur a prison inside ur own house.

It would be the same if u paid rent prob. It’s living w a (former if adult) authority figure.

This is ridiculous! He lives there because he is his SON

Ridiculous

That's why I live in another country

@Zachary Sheffield I’m so sorry for that. Stay strong. U did nothing wrong and u r not alone 💖💖💖

Shoot, he's lucky his parents live there. My parents and sister all have a nice place or whatever but how many times I've been homeless , shoooooot, moved out of my mom's when I was 16. I would love to have these as my parents, LOVE

Wish I'd had a camera phone. My mother would have gone to prison for her abuse.

Mine said that to me all the time. And now they are surprised i don't visit them.

My dad always kicks me out of the house starting from 11

Misogynistic prick

same it's a stress thing trauma response ect

You were never allowed to have a voice. When you find it, individuate, they hate you for it.

same as my dad

My dad

That's my soon to be ex to a T. Update: she is now my current Ex girlfriend. I AM FREE.

And my dad, codependent individuals tend to attract people just like their disordered parent, because of the childhood trauma.

How you can tell who the narcissists are is the cognitive distortions and logical fallacies and that is the wife and son.

@Thomas Anderson Lol bro was sitting on top the stairs while his dad shit talked him for a good 5-10 min. This guy's definitely trouble eh bud 😂

@Thomas Anderson nobodys listening to you anymore lol

@Thomas Anderson lol okay bro sounds good to me. Haha I've had fun, but shits just weird now

@Thomas Anderson the irony! 😂

@Thomas Anderson pce

And when your finally a adult they still want you to “ respect the adult “

@Dakoda Fisher yup , my dad is one . It’s hard . It’s strange though he was never bad . But he’s gotten bad since 2020

That's how you build rebellion and resentment in teens

How did you just describe my Dad in one sentence-

Oh fuck don't incentivize me to write a detailed novel about me resenting my father's influence on my entire sense of self. Trauma from verbal abuse doesn't even begin to scrape the tip of the iceberg

I agree! That is an unhealthy relationship! Get out of there and live with someone else that is WAAAAYYYYYYY better!

Yes give your parents some relief !

Bro ur old enough to move out , now move out ! Get a job! Let the old folks live there older years in PEACE ! Geez typical American Modern spoiled 20yr olds!

@Bitter-Truth Pill Saves 👏👏💯 🙌 100% absolutely living with family who are narcissists will have chipped away at his soul & will definitely need wholesome therapy to rebuild his inner self and strength They never acknowledge what he is saying. I am living with the same circumstances & it is *very* difficult.

They wont be comforted because they fear becoming under attack

For sure, some boomers never had to grow up. No emotional intelligence. Very bad role models

The lady in the video was trying to stay out of the conflict. She probably actually does feel physically ill when shit like this happens. This is not a healthy environment for anyone.

It's a brain disorder. Trying to teach a narc to become empathetic is akin to trying to teach Quantum Mechanics to someone with Down Syndrome.

Its sad yet so true in many ways

Yep

Spot on! My son's girl friend is a narcissist, she's a energy vampire 🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇

Xophieya yeah, I dont even hear it as stuttering. I can see how when he is starting to collect his thoughts he doesn't have time to speak before he is interrupted much less remember his original intent of what he wanted to share. The conversation just goes further and further away from the getting to the resolution. His dad didn't want to resolve it anyway because the best way to get your son to move out is to treat him like crap. Not really the "best" way but maybe all his dad knew of.

Xophieya I'm the same way

His dad's behavior won't change when the son moves. This isn't about the son moving. His dad's behavior will never change. My mom's never did.

Cait3 Holtzback i am sorry that you have no hope, don't believe in your parents and that you demand something from life, that you yourself, dont want give to anybody.

Nowhy very sad ... Hes not alone .

Don't be fooled. The other parent assumes the narc traits over the years. They will always choose the narc. Even over their own kids.

@@LocaButt I’m sure sometimes that’s the case, we can tell from just this video though

Same. Until i was about 27 i finally cut my narcissist family members out of my life. I was surrounded by them. My mom, her boyfriend she met we were forced to live with. A majority of my dads family. My grandma and her sister particularly. Ever since i cut them out of my life I've been a much happier person

When you argue with them they always make the excuse that you wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t them to make your argument invalid

Same here 🤦🏽‍♂️

@@ericasdollworld3886 Im not sure what it is but they definitely run in packs for some reason. Im happy to hear that getting away has helped I was starting to feel guilty for cutting them off

@@bQtea22 i kinda did at one point. A year or 2 after i cut them out, my great aunt passed away. She raised me in a way but she was very psychologically abusive. But i still went to her funeral. The dirty looks, people being cold towards me or try to make me feel guilty. That's when i realized i don't need to be around people like that. And i certainly won't be going to the next funeral. Don't care who it is.

Cat Gwinn ,I just don't speak aloud that often.

Yes, and they have a way of making you doubt what you are trying to say or making you feel like your words don't make sense so you stutter and falter in the message you are trying to convey and they make it seem like you are exaggerating , being dramatic, carrying on like a child ect so speaking out and speaking up confidently to defend yourself is very hard

Zoe Frew exactly.

Zoe Frew ,but you still feel like defending them because you feel the need to care. I understand that.

I stutter a lot but my parents are kind and care about me (sometimes) the only reason I stutter is because whenever I try to talk with my parents they always cut me off, argue, or just ignore me.

I think his mom isn't insane either clearly

@@IndianAnimeBros sadly, I feel like she is… driven insane by her husband.

@@janutellet yea but she was trying to end the discussion peacefully like she knew its best to dodge a bullet from this person rather than confronting, that's how we live with narcissists

@@IndianAnimeBros totally agree with you, sir. That's how my relatives deal with my father too. It isn't easy.

@@janutellet Actually, she keeps her boundaries very solid when talking to him. And, she is calling out his behavior for what it is. She's not trying to solve or fix, she's telling her husband it's his problem, not hers. I'm pretty sure the guy who recorded it is a covert narcissist, though.

right ive experienced that feeling before

that honestly makes a lot of sense and makes me so sad

Exactly what I thought. Poor dude.

It's sad that we recognize how he feels

Yeah , I talk really fast because I try to get my words out before anyone cuts me off because I’m so used to it

Lawyers gaslight defendants all the time in the UK

My mums famous words “anything for a quiet life”…they agree with the one that can turn on them.

My disabled father has a very bad habit of calling others and telling them exactly what he wants to. So all they believe is that I'm full on mistreating him. Couldn't be more untrue. I'm 28 years old and I've been working for a good portion of that time. Coming close to twenty years now working for this home and this is my reward. I even replaced the roof on this place by myself for the most part. To come "home" and quiet only lasts for a little bit. It's mostly just yelling. I've been living in a state of anger for years and I'm beyond over this. All I desire is some actual quiet. That's it. For all I've done and my father will say.... "I'd have alot more if it wasn't for you." All I feel is that part of my life has just been wasted. I'll never get those years back. I've tried to get better but he believes he's not doing anything wrong. Then starts throwing ANY hurtful thing he can.

@@Patriotusa44 Bless You Dr Ramani does some helpful videos about narcissists, which explain. Whatever you do for narcissists it will never be enough because they are bullies and want servants to wait on them all the time. They exhaust their carers with increasing amounts of work. They feel entitled to everything they can get out of carers and more. You are still young and it is not your responsibility to make him happy. It is your turn to build a life for yourself. My string advice is get therapy asap to analyse and understand how you got to these circumstances. And do not sacrifice your happiness for anyone, least if all a narc. Save yourself or you will miss out on finding love and peace in your love. You can still visit him at home but get out his home while you can still escape. God is our witness. Stay strong BVH from England 🙏

I truly feel that the people who help the abuser or standby are worse. It’s different if they’re scared but to encourage or participate sometimes or enjoy the show.. if it weren’t for them and if they were decent, I’m not even sure the assholes could get away with so much. That’s why some amazing parents fight like hell for their kids if one of the spouse is abusive. That is love and a warrior instead of some pos who thinks the abuse is fun! Maybe if the consequences were worse, it would encourage others to hopefully see this is bad rather than fun or some group activity to gang up.

That was sickening.

Thomas Anderson

Thomas Anderson you must’ve grew up the same way. Why are you trolling?

"you sound like a baby" said by the guy who is literally having a tantrum and said "can I watch you delete that video? 👉👈"

Yeah the way she starts going oh lord and starts saying I don’t feel good… Trying to manipulate the young man into feeling like he’s the rotten one at the core and he’s the crazy confrontational and aggressive one who troubles his poor lil old lady

@@MrBurgerPal it's pretty clear that the kid is a major problem. i dont understand how people are unable to recognize this.

Hisoka Morrow that is all my dads counter arguments 😂🤣😅

My moms way of arguing lmao

Hisoka Morrow lmao relatable

Hisoka Morrow I cant even express my opinion. Nor am i able to look in his eye or anywhere near his eye when im getting yelled at. Im expected to look down at the floor in remorse and take it with an expression on my face that doesnt show any sign of distaste. Guess what im getting yelled at for, for not taking care of my sister well enough while he was out gambling. Hmm seems legit

d E Yeah you’re not allowed to have negative emotions cuz you’re not human! You’re simply incapable of empathy or understanding when you should or shouldn’t be angry!! Yep. That’s a manipulative parent. Let them have their way for now, their little power trips, but get out of there when you can. Don’t be afraid to leave on bad terms.

Yes. That is my ex husband right there!

💯👏👏

Yes!

Yes... EXCEPT when they’re the ones recording after crazymaking is successful 😩😭

Exactly

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@Thomas Anderson Maybe you, I'd have snatched the camera by then, or left.

The wife is the narcissistic triangulating addict. The son is deluded. This is bait and switch. Logical fallacies.

Families Supporting Trauma Recovery can you stop replying to every fucking comment

No I believe in honoring people's right to be replied to.

I'm here to discuss the actual subject. Irrelevant.

I think the lesson of this video is that we need more and quality communication, not less. The father seems to feel provoked and that he has certain inalienable rights. Freedoms. The wife is very intent on controlling freedom of speech. That's the control freak. I wonder why she's not interested in reconciliation?

Last time i played the video proof to prove my point of him denying abusing us i almost ended up beaten. They're so scared of evidence, because they know the police would believe the evidence and not their empthy words.🤭

Those parents must be mentally ill on the inside, I feel bad for the camera guy.

It's because in their mind they aren't doing anything wrong🤷‍♂️

That's fucking truth 😂

Ong

Sarah H because

Ikr

Sarah H Same

Because videos in your recommendations don't have to be new.

Sarah H Same? I don’t even watch any videos that would relate to this. Weird.

Thank you!! I’m sad to see people siding with the parents yikes!!

Yeah, he did the most brilliant thing, and I love this went viral.

JustChels and gosh I can't take any more "I WANT you to" " I WANT him to" "I WANT" "I WANT"

JustChels I know, my dad is Narcissistic 😞 Good thing I don’t see him anymore. He is a violent man. I feel bad for anyone who has Narcissistic parents.

Yeah, my mom married my dad who was narcissistic then divorced him and got with ANOTHER narcissistic dad. Wonderful, at least the first one changed when he left to the navy but still.

In families like this there is a rigid unspoken hierarchy, rigid unspoken rules, and rigid roles. Black and white thinking. Mom white, dad black. Sociopaths provoke and are superficial. Their unspoken premise is that anger is an indication of an evil monster. They have cognitive dissonance and create drama for confirmation bias. They avoid healthy conflict resolution in the name of peace and harmony. Lol.

Yep!

Yes why didnt you film that secretly? Nobody wants tonbe film having an argument.

Yes he should have recorded secretly.

@Neo Anderson the name calling, and the denial. Proves that you are the dad in the video, and it proves that you are a narcissist. You are just upset that people that actually know you. Finally see the real you.

Thomas Anderson Pretty bold of you to insinuate her being weak when you basically had a tantrum after she criticised you. All it does is show how frail your ego is.

Oh god, my step dad did that all the time. He NEVER called us his kids. He didn't want me calling him "dad" even tho he's been my father figure since I was 2

my own biological dad does this and it is the most annoying blood boiling fucking thing. like it’s as if people forget that it takes two to create and raise children

Moon batt my father is like that too. He tells me he only loves me because he has to. He likes people to think my sister & I are his girlfriends. Not daughters. And has always referred to us as our mother's children.

Get me Eileen

Meh Sometimes when I’m mad at my mom/dad I️ ask the other parent to talk to THEIR wife/ husband

@@devanov3103 So today before bed i went to my moms room and told her i had to get dropped off at school tomorrow and that i wont be sleeping in her room like she was insisting me for some reason. Then I said that I had some chemistry syllabus at school and something i cant remember but nothing i said could male her react the way she just did. So i talked to her amd went back to my room. Now 20 minutes she knocked on my door and i was kinda scared cuz it was kinda dark in the living area for some reason and i said "yes mom" and then she started crying, screaming at me so i got so scared cuz i couldnt understand why she was reacting like this . I got scared Af and closed my door and she was crying screaming about how i am such a bad daughter,will be taken out of school , threatening me and other stuff. My dads out of town so its just my sis,my mom and me at home. My lil sis came and started asking "whts happening?" And my mom legit had no answer even when i asked why reacting like this cuz all i said was i had to get dropped off at school the next day. She was even yelling that I need a psychiatrist lol and that i was acting like a bad kid the whole day , when in reality i was just in my room most of the time trying to study and idk wht she talking about anymore , i feel like she has turned my whole family including my lil sis against me for no damn reason like i could just be *existing* and she would start going *crazy* at me and telling me all these vile things. She was acting weirdly nice to me today saying "i love u , u are the best kid etc" the whole day out of nowhere,usually she is normal but today she was trying to be too lovey dovey i guess but then suddenly she gets crazy like this at night time. Guys, idk wht to do anymore. I feel bad that shes crying but idk wht i did to make her react like this, feels awful honestly for doing nothing basically.What kind of an adult acts like this even? I have an aunt(my moms sis) and she has mental issues too and the way my mom reacts nowadays is reminding me of her. This is getting ridiculous idk why she has such extreme episodes of crying and blaming me for everything, degrading me ,threatenig me giving me ultimatums etc etc even if i dont talk to her for HOURS or in a bad way she would still say all me these things and say i am a bad kid or disrespectful but my mothwr has turned the whole family against me by exageratting everything and talking crap about me behind my back to my dad and sis so my sis thinks that i made my mom cry and go crazy by doing something bad i dont get it anymore why is she doing thisto me am i the scape goat m is this behaviour of hers normal? idk man what do i do?

Yes you can not resolve issues because they keep others in rigid roles and go by rigid rules and evade and divert and deflect with word salad. That would be the wife and son. There is a name for every lie they play. This is a video of a narcissistic wife and a son who is her echo with psychosis. The father an English professor is reasoning well and his feelings are valid. They automatically discount whatever he says. To them he has no human rights. This is a common gangster hustle and very low level. Don’t be fooled. They think they are perfect but we see they are shallow and superficial and callous. The wife is manipulating and dominating to go off alone to get High. The son has a psychotic disorder common in addicts kids. She confabulated anout the dad and got the kid on her side. He is taking care of her sadistic needs in a repetition compulsion. He is her white knight. and she does not show appropriate concern. She is callous with unemotional traits and blocks connection with logical fallacies. She says the exact opposite of what a functional woman would say. When her pjs are moving she is lying. Neither she not the son level. They are the pathological narcissists.

The wife is the control freak who controls communication. She is pure pretense. The eldest son completely lost his voice and was diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder. Open minded people can look at Matt orfaleas videos and comments below and think for themselves. What is nonsense is the cognitive distortions and logical fallacies the wife and son play. There is a name for every single one form beginning to end. This is how abusers manipulate and dominate. They are evil people of the lie. I have explained it thoroughly throughout these comments. Rigid narrow minded know it alls are not able to grasp it. This so why recovery for families with addicts is a long term process. Easy does it.

Yes she lies when she says she wasn’t there. Notice how she just stonewalls that. It is irrelevant wether she was there or not. This cycle of abuse has been going on for fifteen years. Trying to discount me with appeal to credentials is fallacious reasoning. An empty assertion that I am speaking nonsense is noted. That is what is nonsense. It is not gaslighting or inappropriate shaming to appeal to conscience. She is behaving shamelessly and he is holding her accountable. As we see below and in other videos of Matt orfalea she told the son dad is a narcissist. That her therapist told her this. That is not how therapy works. It is their little secret which the son acts out. That is what is gaslighting and crazy making. His complaints are petty with rigid rules and double standards. Read the description. A functional woman would say the exact opposite of what she is saying she would self reflect and consider her part and level. She is withholding information he has a right to know. A healthy woman would say let’s all sit down and each share perceptions and thoughts and feelings and listen to each other. Argue about one thing at a time and hang in there and fight fair. We try to seek truth and find meaning and understanding together. What the son is doing is harassing and it gives the perception of discrimination. At that point a healthy group discusses core values and codes of conduct and functional grievance procedures. The son walked off angrily and silently and stored up petty resentments. He felt dad was interrupting and ignoring. He ought to level with dad that he doesn’t like being interrupted to help dad and that he thinks it is wrong to fiddle with another parameter. He ought to politely say he is leaving now and let him know if dad needs any more help. That is what is nice behavior. He already had his resentments to report back to the wife in his repetition compulsion and as we can see he tells the wife dad got mad because he was helping him. Actually he got mad because son stormed off and is about to rattle to mommy and the episode is starting up again. He is not honest why he walked away. He was annoyed and then rattled and card stacks with the mind reading distortion. It is false accusations with rigid unspoken rules and acting it instead of using words. His original trauma was mom telling him dad doesn’t know how to talk to kids. If dad talks nicely then the son experiences painful cognitive dissonance. He scrutinizes and nitpicks for confirmation bias for his delusions. He doesn’t level. He should ask dad his motivations for asking for help. Perhaps dad should try to do things for himself. Perhaps son should show some interest in dads work. He is an award winning author. The wife pretends to understand what getting along is. But doesn’t describe it. She is a primitive thug. You can’t argue with her or work through issues reasonably because she is a control freak who evades and diverts and deflects with distortions and fallacies makes there’s Anne for every one. Which the English professor is well ware of. And could help them. Unfortunately they automatically discount whatever he says. The heart of the matter is that the wife is a sadist and her son is her puppet who parrots her word salad. She sticks her fingers in dads wounds and wiggles them around and is win lose in a zero sum game. The heart of the matter is she desperately needs to go oof alone to get High and dad is the one who gets to the heart of the matter. He is correct. She shows callous disregard for the rights and feelings of others and callous unemotional traits. She is exploiting her own son. She makes up why he walked off instead of simply asking him. She is the triangulator. The father is like a detective trying to clear things up. She pretends you aren’t supposed to argue. They reason you can’t argue with her is because she spars with word salad. And that is why the son has this psychosis. This is a common script on families of addicts. Words for the experience are healing. She plays power and control games with cognitive distortions and logical fallacies and an authoritarian omniscient air. Note her omniscient certainty and subtle pity ploy and the vague generalities of the political shitweasel. How about the glittering generalities and circular reasoning? Apparently you “get along” by getting to the heart of the matter which is getting along. He gets to the heart of the matter. She is an addict and is lying and withholding and unreasonable and what she says is irrelevant. This has been going on for fifteen years and there is something work guard their son. The first son lost his ability to speak completely and she is the tyrannical dictator with the saccharine guise who acts like a child’s idea of a mature woman. An docntrols communication to the pint her own child completely lost his ability to speak. This son also has developed a neurological disorder. It is exhausting to play these games to feed her sadism addiction. She is enjoying this. Children see it as powerful and mirror the addicts disease. They are revolving around her. She confabulated Abuja the dad and shattered the child’s fragile ego and got him on her “side”. She speaks on the language patterns of the common low life thug.

It is important when dealing with a narcissistic or sociopathic addict to know your rights. The father has a right to be heard about things that concern him and to engage in an open and honest dialogue. He has a right to be treated with dignity and respect and for his family to be honest with him. In functional families we do have transparency and accountability and no you do not just have to take it nor are you automatically to blame for not “getting along”. He is not magically cussing these problems. The rules are not clear. We see the son doing the exact things he is accusing his father of. Name calling and ridiculous. Note his appeals to ridicule. The fathers feelings are valid and he is reasoning well. He is demanding he be treated with respect. It is not right to manufacture a video and smear your fathers reputation publicly. It is the son who lies that his father refuses to engage in any Reasoned deliberation because as we’ve seen over five years the son does not engage in a reasonable deliberation about The facts in this video. Videoing a person and falsely accusing and constantly flipping the script does not make you the victim of an evil monster. The person who caused this sons original trauma was the mother. We see the black and white thinking and he adulates her as “amazing” below and gives her pity. That is her payoff. It is the all and nothing thinking. He had to make a choice no child should have to make. She is the alienator who pit them against each other. This video is classic bullying an covert relational aggression and the wife is the culprit. It is definitely her problem. Know your rights. You can learn more about the Lucifer effect and anti social group dynamics as described in Philip zombardo books and the milgram experiments. Ninety percent of people can be fooled by tyrannical narcissists. Sociopaths love pity and successful con artists. You are seeing the superficial picture. The wife is shallow emotionally and superficial intellectually. The father represents a superior intellect and moral compass and that is threatening to them. He is not afraid to show childlike vulnerability and emotion and they stupidly imagine it is icky. That is what is childish. The wife and son do not self reflect or maintain reflective functioning. They treat him like an object in their fantasy drama. These are the narcissists. Recovery is possible although considered miraculous in nature. If this wife had any decency she would have got her son help a long time ago. She is completely clueless to his distress. He is parroting her propaganda.

MemerSchemer exactly!

MemerSchemer Same bro! 🤔

someone at youtube hq got triggered?

Same lulz

Why is it popping in the first place.