ORIGINAL Star Wars Hoth Battle Scene (1980)

ORIGINAL Star Wars Hoth Battle Scene (1980) - 16mm Film Preservation

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ORIGINAL Star Wars Hoth Battle Scene (1980) - 16mm Film Preservation
This is the original Hoth Battle scene from The Empire Strikes Back as seen in the original release. This clip came from Puggo Strikes Back, a 16mm print of the film. It was scanned and then uploaded to archive.org by a user named Puggo. You can watch this version for yourself here: archive.org/details/ESB16mm
For those not aware, better versions of the Theatrical Releases exist and I talk about them in my video here: • A Brief Review of all ...
I do not own the rights to or to distribute Star Wars. That ability belongs to the Disney Corporation. This video is purely for preservation purposes. The music in this video belongs to John Williams, and therefore Disney.

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@DrClay999 2 жыл бұрын

There is something really nice about seeing this old film format. The colors and the grain, something about it just is comforting. We're so used to seeing everything in crystal clear quality it's gotten almost unrealistic, if that makes sense.

@fyfyi6053 2 жыл бұрын

......... it doesn't

@DrClay999 2 жыл бұрын

@@fyfyi6053 I guess what I'm getting at is there's a point to where something can look too clean to where it feels uncanny or unnatural.

@boomblabla6stack563 2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense to me, tought of that just before I read your comment.

@ChristiRich Жыл бұрын

It’s like a fuzzy memory or photograph that represents nostalgic emotion.

@brussell Жыл бұрын

It makes sense.

@kempy2 Жыл бұрын

1:06 loving the windows 10 sounds right here

@masteric123 3 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this as a kid with my dad. We sat in theater after credits rolled speechless didn’t move at all. What a movie huh.…

@masteric123 3 жыл бұрын

I think we sat through another showing i believe back then you could do that if you wanted.?

@hideofreakingkojima5457 3 жыл бұрын

@Obi-Wan Kenobi That's like your opinion man

@DDDiego 3 жыл бұрын

@Obi-Wan Kenobi I disagree. The prequels are great movies don’t get me wrong but the OT is a classic. I just enjoy them more than the prequels in my opinion

@keyabrade1861 2 жыл бұрын

No, Luke. I am your father.

@sentinal_entity Жыл бұрын

@Kenobi Edits As someone who grew up with the prequels and whose favorite trilogy/star wars IS the prequels... ESB is just uncontested for the best star wars film. Rots is a close second for me

@mrghiax Жыл бұрын

The scene at 4.08 showing 3 AT-AT walkers with rebels running away from them is pure cinematic gold. One cannot quite believe you are watching something that was made well over 40 years ago and it looks as good now as it did upon first release. Back in the day this scene (and others) must have been mind blowing. Hats off to the special effects team for bringing these films to life.

@YortOK 11 ай бұрын

Those imperial walkers scared the hell outta me when I first saw them on the screen over 40 yrs ago. I calmed down a bit when I realised they weren't living things but we're "driven" by the empire 😂

@Mr12Relic 7 ай бұрын

@@YortOK Everybody complains about AT-ATs being slow and inefficient compared to an orbital strike. The psychological factor is so immense. Their design was based on Paraceratherium, a huge extinct hornless rhinoceros. War elephants were used throughout antiquity for travel efficiency (especially over difficult terrain) and to instill fear, prior to the invention of tanks. Given the Rebels' trenched position resembling WWI, this scene blends the ideas of animal and machine into a twisted monstrosity.

@Someonece 5 ай бұрын

It's so surreal because the look of the film calls back to something like the eastern front, except there are giant four legged tanks in the background shooting laser bolts. This was beautiful to watch.

@ROPictures 3 жыл бұрын

Something about this makes the effects look even better

@wazztvproductions Жыл бұрын

The effects actually look real. Like actual war footage. Quite remarkable really.

@HeathenMetalhead221 2 жыл бұрын

The 16mm effect makes it looks like actual war footage that was recorded

@SG10FilmArchive 2 жыл бұрын

Who says it wasn’t? :)

@behelit1997 3 ай бұрын

@@SG10FilmArchiveGeorge Lucas since he keeps doing a pile of star wars films every year

@bjornpagenkemper6622 2 жыл бұрын

A masterpiece and sooooo far ahead of its time!

@sadas3190 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, so much so that Echo station 5-7 managed to disconnect a USB device while Luke's on the way

@SG10FilmArchive 2 жыл бұрын

Technology

@douglasjohnson4382 Жыл бұрын

Nothing is ever ahead of its time.

@MikeBailey74 3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing the OT films in this format with the odd aspect ratio and the bleached-out colours - it’s like seeing the films again for the first time, also the audio tracks are so much clearer. Thanks for uploading these 👍

@falco919 2 жыл бұрын

It makes you really appreciate how much talent and skill it took to make this back in the day. When I work on low budget stuff I see even films made on 50k having CGI that looks realistic, but back then, this was a monumental technical achievement that involved a huge number of industry leaders trying to do things that had hardly ever been done before

@ytuser_3122 10 ай бұрын

I feel like I’m seeing the films my father saw at that time

@wombleofwimbledon5442 3 жыл бұрын

Why is this still better than the new stuff? Also, look! An ATST!

@cbalan777 3 жыл бұрын

In terms of special effects it's effectively all real. The AT-AT's are just really small. No CGI or computers except for maybe blaster bolts and Luke's Lightsaber.

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

@@cbalan777 Not even the blaster bolts or lightsabers were CGI, they were all painted in on a rotoscope. Pretty cool, huh?

@cbalan777 3 жыл бұрын

@@SG10FilmArchive Yeah. I wasn't sure how much painting they were still doing for laser bolt type special effects even in these movies.

@nintendorakyamato1859 4 ай бұрын

@@SG10FilmArchiverotoscope was also used by Max Fleicher in the 30s

@reading_MOVIES Жыл бұрын

Watching the digital remastered version for the first time was amazing. But after over two decades I now realise what was also lost. There is a gritty realism preserved in this version making it look more authentic than the remasters, like old war footage especially the minatures shots. Thank you for these uploads.

@user-bi3kk5om7j 3 жыл бұрын

Cool! Now I'm waiting for the return of Jedi 16mm preservation 👏

@goliathpark5867 3 жыл бұрын

There is. You can look for any video of ep6 in this channel that may have the link to full ep6 in description

@numeitor7075 2 ай бұрын

No Star Wars films were ever in 16mm.

@anthonyklanke1397 3 ай бұрын

The scene where the speeders are all speeding towards the enemy still holds up 👍 practical effects and a good score can not be understated :)

@liamthompson8563 2 ай бұрын

I like how Luke gets a notification from his phone mid-battle!🤣🤣

@kirk1701 Жыл бұрын

The music, the tension, the effects are all just epic. One of my favorite cinematic sequences.

@blockmasterscott 8 ай бұрын

4:07 I cannot stress enough just how awesome this scene with the 3 walkers dominating the battlefield was in 1980. There had literally been nothing like it before.

@delnajamusic 2 жыл бұрын

4:58 Stormtroopers can't hit anything but that AT AT pilot...OMG...I love that maneuver...

@Amp661 5 ай бұрын

The speeder doesn't have a main hero in it. You'll learn some day.

@PatrickMatherne Жыл бұрын

Watching that brought me back to when I saw it in the theatres

@indiana2096 5 ай бұрын

I have these film preservations and I am so glad that I found them. There was something special watching these, it brought back the feel of how it was before VHS, LD & DVD, just a simpler time!

@luckykennedy7364 3 жыл бұрын

I would watch the whole movie in 16mm

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

You can! I put links in the description for these film scans.

@luckykennedy7364 Жыл бұрын

@@SG10FilmArchive unfortunately they’re no longer there. Before they did vanish however I did manage to get a new Hope and return of the Jedi.

@oceanpacific886 2 ай бұрын

@@SG10FilmArchivebring it back!!

@fliesentisch-imperator8185 10 ай бұрын

0:25 for me one of the greatest (of so unbelievable many) musical moments in Star Wars! Strings in the background, that build the framework for piano and marching drums, that give such a unique impression of the tension that is running through the soldiers while waiting for the attack. Wish there was a longer version of that little part

@mdeange3 Жыл бұрын

The cinematography in the first theatrical release prints episodes IV, V, and VI convey a soft grain "dreamy" quality that imbues the "Once Upon A Time" updated prologue: A Long Time Ago, In a Galaxy Far, Far, Away. Thanks for posting this 16mm film clip because all SW fans need to see the original quality of the film.

@sentinal_entity Жыл бұрын

I love this shot at 4:08. At this point the troopers have been routed and thus they retreat. You see ominous creatures of destruction looming over them with the destruction they've already caused billowing behind them in ash and smoke. There's just so much frantic chaos here. It captured the desperation of this conflict quite nicely imo, and it's one of the scenes in OT that really puts the WAR in Star Wars.

@warmecanic 2 ай бұрын

this is why this movie still is the number one

@waraspan755 2 ай бұрын

i remember when I was a Child and I watched this scene for the very-first time. It was mindblowing. Thank you for this short timetravel.

@bmanrockwell2174 2 ай бұрын

I love when the commanding (lead?) AT-AT backs to the side(at 5:00) just to get a sick shot in on the Snowspeeder. Skilled AT-AT crew.

@chrisheywood7376 2 ай бұрын

Always loved when that ATAT shifts its weight and nails that speeder. Flex move

@bugattiveyron8282 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite Star wars movie! It's my favorite because the hoth battle scene

@imanolalonsotegui7999 3 жыл бұрын

Me encanta la colorimetría tan natural y el grano: mucho mejor que el sobrevalorado 4k. Coincido con muchos en que es como visionarlas por primera vez. Enhorabuena a quienes tienen copias en super 8 y 16 mm y muchas gracias por compartirlas con los fans

@TroublesomeSlateTruck 2 ай бұрын

4:39-4:40 It’s Gonna Blow! 4:42-4:43, 4:44-4:45 And 4:46-4:47 It’s Falling Down To The Ground Of Snow, And Crashing Down Into Dust.

@UsernameGeri Жыл бұрын

Even if the audio is roasted to hell, you can tell the actual sound mixing is far superior. Just listen 1:09. You can clearly hear all sound effects, dialogue, and the music flares loudly at the appropriate times. Brilliant.

@safirahmed 3 жыл бұрын

Star Wars films have so many changes after the original theatrical release it's difficult to know whether even the directors know about all the changes to canon.

@rickhunter6513 3 жыл бұрын

I hated ALL the changes Lucas made to the originals. He won’t even let us watch the originals, just the CGI ridden ones.

@wesleybevels Жыл бұрын

That's my favorite exciting scene in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, The Snow Battle in Hoth

@cbalan777 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice. It definitely gives the movie a look it would have had back when originally released.

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

Actually, this is a 16mm print and the US theaters all used 35mm prints, which had a much higher quality.

@peterp2153 2 жыл бұрын

Nah, 35MM would’ve looked as good then as it does in today’s film. It’s essentially the equivalent of 4K digital media, maybe even better.

@adisonmiller8552 Жыл бұрын

It’s so much better this way

@Aethertopia369 3 ай бұрын

Best movie going experience I had.

@cole_man.exe_2002 3 жыл бұрын

1:34 Love this shot.

@CavangoVulgora 2 жыл бұрын

4:08

@nintendorakyamato1859 4 ай бұрын

How the AT-AT were animated with stop motion

@joydivisionisnotdead67 Жыл бұрын

I'm going to Norway next year and I plan on visiting the location they used for Hoth. It's just south of Finse. Looking forward to seeing it. Cheers.

@SJHFoto Жыл бұрын

Wow! That would be neat!

@michaeljohnson5365 Жыл бұрын

I must have watched this scene a thousand times

@SoulStylistJukeBox 10 ай бұрын

The sound mix is terrific.

@wabbittwacks3173 2 жыл бұрын

Eddie and the Cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude!

@AJadedLizard 9 ай бұрын

It will never not impress me how *good* these movies still look.

@arbite979 9 ай бұрын

Beautiful , dont ever lose it and thanks for posting it sir , much respect

@qbchadp 2 жыл бұрын

The true stop motion animation imagery of the AT AT Walkers can be seen.

@oceanpacific886 2 ай бұрын

We need a new link for the archive!!! We need to preserve this!!

@joeysalazar4356 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful! Thanks for posting!

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! :)

@adriangaliver 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite battle in the Star Wars franchise

@ilikemilfsandcougars Жыл бұрын

I actually wish we'd go back to this standard. The visual saturation of today's media doesn't feel right

@elijahvincent985 Жыл бұрын

3:36 not gonna lie: that shot is pretty cool for 1980. also, the original version looks both better and more vulnerable than the versions I've seen of "The Empire Strikes Back."

@easyreader8859 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the share, very interesting.

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@kataisa3 3 ай бұрын

Those walkers scared the crap out of me when I was a kid.

@lilrobi45xxx42 2 жыл бұрын

I hope they showed this version of esb when they rereleased it for its 40th anniversary

@peterkorek-mv6rs 4 ай бұрын

Star Wars is a fiction of course, but this is probably one of the most "realistic" battle scenes of the worlds cinema. The icy fog, the giant armoured walking fortresses, symbolic for industrial and military power, the fact, that you cannot "screw" the Empire without to be striked by its full force, all this contributes to this realism.

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 ай бұрын

Great video...👍

@prdalien0 9 ай бұрын

Amazing always.

@ricardomarrufo8302 2 жыл бұрын

Extreme chills

@thomasmiller9205 Жыл бұрын

Thank you..

@williammoore6361 11 ай бұрын

I feel 6 years old again watching this

@hyperioncorp4465 2 жыл бұрын

A master piece....!!!!!!

@viperleader001 Жыл бұрын

Love it!!!!

@lggaming8616 2 жыл бұрын

This is the best 6:06 of my life!!!

@TheArsenalgunner28 Жыл бұрын

I know it has the grain effect as it is the original print but why does the colour look better? Some shots of the AT-ATs actually feel more real without digital remastering where they brighten and colour everything Having them be cast in shadow makes them look more menacing, if you look at the footage from 4:58 and compare it to the digital remasters it’s looks so much better to me. Feels like I’m watching a war documentary

@thirdlawofmotion Жыл бұрын

Great to see the original video, Shame the longer version was taken down :(

@Progamer420_69 3 жыл бұрын

1:05 usb unplug

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

Oops

@pauldonvito 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha!! I thought that was me then realised I'm on my phone 😂😂

@skylaxx 3 жыл бұрын

Nice catch 😅👍

@CreationK. 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this, but more importantly, thank you for the scripture at the end! God bless! :)

@Elusive9T2RETRO 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know why they call call it hoth, it should be called Coldth

@FairyWeatherMan 3 жыл бұрын

You win! :D 😀😍

@rpersen 2 жыл бұрын

You didn’t!

@lancecurry7538 Жыл бұрын

1:34 - The AT-AT March!

@garryfield5319 2 жыл бұрын

awsome!

@RX7821979 9 ай бұрын

The way it was meant to be viewed

@lindsaydessent329 6 ай бұрын

at 4:48 minutes to 4:54 there is a piece of music that in the spotify version is cut short which infuriates me because its supposed to be the whole version but its cut back. they do the same to ROTS when anakin looks out over the lava fields of mustafar crying and the music there plays the whole piece but on the ost for that scene its also cuts it out. anyway i miss what star wars was even the figurines suck now. member berries or a time machine what i wouldn't give for a time machine.

@jorgezarco9269 Жыл бұрын

A good Star Wars movie. A good movie...period. We had to read the novelization in the 6th grade. When that was over, we saw the movie. We watched the 1984 Ewoks TV movie in the cafeteria when it rained after lunch.

@moso299 8 ай бұрын

Any of you ever seen that really old movie, The Empire Strikes Back? Remember the scene on the snow planet with the walking thingees? Spider-Man must have watched a 16 mm print at a nostalgic Star Wars festival. A real movie buff!

@mattmccain8492 3 жыл бұрын

Is it me or am I seeing effects, elements, and scenes that are different to the versions from later on in vhs format and up?? I haven't seen the theater original like this since about 82. They changed things more than I realized over the decades.

@leobarrios7103 Жыл бұрын

Exquisite !!!

@keyabrade1861 2 жыл бұрын

1:07 What's that sound?

@mistofoles Жыл бұрын

How did they manage to vaporise that AT-AT they'd just toppled ? - I thought Luke said its armour was too strong for blasters.

@Pitdmn Жыл бұрын

This is the star wars I grew up with in the 80's. Special Edition cleaned up the picture too much.

@Dear1Stupit1Dog Ай бұрын

1:10 some sort of motion blur must have been put on here with the ships, in the more recent years.

@emperorpawpateen.9992 2 жыл бұрын

The way it should be watched

@youknowwho5251 2 жыл бұрын

The CGI really does stick out like a sore thumb. But it look's great either way. Really does look good.

@Motoskichimo1974 2 жыл бұрын

CGI? I'm quite sure there is no CGI in this movie. At least not in this preserved version. The blu rays and other re releases do have some added in (Example being the extra scene in a new hope where han talks to jabba which originally was an actual actor. But was switched to the slug in return of the jedi.). But in this version. It's all models, Pyro technics, camera tricks with blue screen and perspective.

@Metalbringer92 2 жыл бұрын

It's all real my friend. Small-scale models, stop motion and props, plus the blaster and lasers are all painted in rotoscopy. it looks weird because we don't have this kinda stuff anymore, but this has its own feel to it I'd say

@tjjones753 2 жыл бұрын

Looks more realistic ... in a galaxy far, far away.

@arturocevallossoto5203 Жыл бұрын

I really like the natural colors. I noticed there has been some change in films from the camera attempting to capture what "our eyes would see" to something more crisp and somewhat artificial. Was this to make CGI look better? No idea.

@masteric123 3 жыл бұрын

I like the bible verses at the end!

@Nathan-nq6bc Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the Scripture 🙏💕

@paulsteinhauser434 2 ай бұрын

I hate the fact they removed the rebels yelling to retreat.

@Protheeus 2 ай бұрын

There is something strange at 5:11 when the shield generator explodes... When I watched this movie back in the 1990s at home (on a video tape), I clearly reminded that there was no blinding flash at all, and the scene was very briefly in slow motion. Later, when the film was restored in the 2000s, I noticed that the blinding flash was added, manifestly in an effort to "hide" the temporarily slow motion. Since the present footage is from the original 1980 movie, why is there the blinding flash at 5:11 ?? I am really confused...

@JonahNelson7 Жыл бұрын

Am I crazy or did they cut out Wedge saying "hooah" before "that got him" in later versions?

@acenewholland564 4 ай бұрын

Wait how can they copyright claim something that doesn’t look like that today?

@christopherbyrd7621 Жыл бұрын

aside from opinions from the scenery which I like, this is like Plane crazy PVP side team wars. (Edit: like Ground forces, Air Force, and Aerial defenses fighting against each other with different weapons. Plane crazy PVP is really the sight of handmade werid weapons in defense against their teams. The times in Plane crazy PVP is really beautiful and terrifying at the same time. Star Wars is really showing how much terrifying and most spectacular things there is in the war.

@christopherbyrd7621 Жыл бұрын

pretty sure some of y’all will read this in 10 seconds and call me a nerd

@rpersen 2 жыл бұрын

«Target, maximum firepower», general Veers is da man.

@igap6304 3 жыл бұрын

Minecraft music at the end 💖💖💖💖💖 so wholesome

@JonahNelson7 Жыл бұрын

Glad they removed those black outlines

@nintendorakyamato1859 3 жыл бұрын

Snowspeeders don't have deflector shields

@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 Жыл бұрын

1:07 and he signs into his computer with bleep

@thegabriel3789 3 жыл бұрын

Pero que joya 👌👌

@rphlcrvz 3 жыл бұрын

Will there be a 16mm preservation of the asteroid pursuit sequence? Would love to see how good it looked back then

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll put it on the list!

@rphlcrvz 3 жыл бұрын

@@SG10FilmArchive Awesome! Thanks chief😄

@SG10FilmArchive 3 жыл бұрын

No problem! Just as a note 16mm wasn’t shown in theaters, it was mainly shown in schools, prisons, and for international releases. 35mm is what was shown in theaters. Just FYI :)