This video will help you to identify a franken HMT pilot watch from an original one.
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@watchmedraw43403 жыл бұрын
I like my vintage watches. I wanted to buy my first vintage HMT and it ended up being a frankin. It had an arrow on the dial. Hand painted lume but India dial and snap case back with generic numbers mimicking real service numbers. I wish I was in the group before I bought the watch but like you said.. it truly doesn't matter what others think... If you like it, you like it.
@@allarakha603 मुझे बस तब तक खोजते रहना होगा जब तक कि मुझे वह नहीं मिल जाता जो मुझे लगता है। मैं अब भी एचएमटी से प्यार करता हूं और मैं समझता हूं कि लोगों को अपने परिवारों के लिए खाने की मेज पर रखने के लिए अभी भी पैसे कमाने की जरूरत है।
@BrakkoJanus4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an incredibly informative video, I have just started researching into HMT watches and this is very helpful! Cheers from Italy.
@dracovenit95495 жыл бұрын
"something that is untouchable for you" I had to chuckle, I love that phrase! Great video brother!
@christophermarshall28013 жыл бұрын
Great video....I just purchased four HMT watches (one Avinash, one Jubilee, and two Pilots). I think three are “frankenwatches” as you say. This doesn’t bother me in the least, but I’m very appreciative of your video, that explains some of the things to look for when purchasing and collecting. I know I’ll be buying more in the future Ave now I know more of what to look for if I want full original and authentic HMT versions.
@noorulameen17184 жыл бұрын
Hi! I’m new to HMT watches but have silently admired the Pilot, when I located one I grabbed it immediately but to my dismay it turned out to be fake and I found that out due to this video. I have since bought an original one and only when you hold them your hands you can see the difference it’s like chalk & cheese!!
@octavianotmar36932 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Watching your video has opened my eyes as I was about to buy one that wasn't the original version.
@prathyush10977 жыл бұрын
great work! love your channel and your content. thanks a ton!
@marchills41316 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Your point is well taken that if the purchaser is happy with a frankenwatch, that's perfectly OK. As long as he or she understands what they are getting.
@turkeyfist3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative, thank you buddy!
@timeloupe8 жыл бұрын
Kamaal kiye Pandey ji.... very good
@jamesony8 жыл бұрын
You should never touch movement with your fingers - the acid and sweat on your hands will effect and 'rust' the movement overtime.
@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-19684 жыл бұрын
It is 2019 now and I am seeing plenty of Franken HMT watches on eBay with "Made in India" or "Made in India 0231" printed at the bottom of the dial. So they are catching up !
@siddhunkarthik2 жыл бұрын
Good video. You didn't mention from where we do get original hmt watch . When I was a child, my dad used to wear hmt watch. Later he switched to Titan. After many yrs,he changed his watch. I remember so well, what are all things I did with my dad's watch...lol. It was a robust one. I bought handwinding hmt pilot from amazon , but I know it is Franken watch. But it works good as of now. I really want to one a Hand winding good original HMT watch. ( not quartz). I even learned from you, hmt has it's own movement mechanism unlike other foreign watch makers who render the movement from other reputed organizations from abroad and assemble their watch in their own taste and style. Now, there is one watch maker, delhi watch company - they are promising that they would be coming up with mechanical handwinding and automatic winding (rotar based) watches within 3 months using hmt movement mechanism inside. Other than hmt, good old company is casio and citizen which was quite popular , they came out with digital display , quartz based watches which killed the analog segment on late 1980s. Now , people are realizing how nice to have those variants , spring based mechanical watch which doesn't need any battery power.
@sachinbhat95768 жыл бұрын
this is much needed especially for overseas buyers who buy franken and later crib about its quality
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rg12838 жыл бұрын
Very useful information for would-be Piloteers. Thanks!
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words
@TrailBlazer5280 Жыл бұрын
Very educational thank you. I can see the differences on ebay right now and you've helped me identify some fakes. But as you said, as long as you know it may be worth a purchase for the low price.
@nishanthb63795 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your knowledge
@tommyvictorbuch6960 Жыл бұрын
I might have bought a Franken-Watch, but it runs just fine. For now. I bought it for the yellow dial. If it's not original, it's very well made I have to say. I think I will start a collection. These watches seem good for the price, and they look good as well. Good and informative video. Greetings from Denmark.
@blackpig52 Жыл бұрын
I have 3,probably franken but they run fine,look great and cost under £20 each.i like to think of them as recycled rather than fakes as all the parts seem to be hmt
@howardgreen97186 жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you
@paulbrady81077 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your knowledge sir.👍
@TrueFork5 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a fake, good thing I saw this first!
@jayanthkumar79646 жыл бұрын
Hi Prashant, any idea if there is still stocking going on in the HMT website in August 2018? Thanks.
@TheBigMclargehuge3 жыл бұрын
I bought two HMT copies and the movement on both stopped working within a couple weeks.
@yash93014 жыл бұрын
I have 2 hmt parashock watches....I want to know how to key the watchess
@skynet_cyberdyne_systems4 жыл бұрын
nice video. thanks
@RaviShankar-es6bk3 жыл бұрын
Does all of this apply to the newer versions of Pilot? Is the lume still hand applied on newer pilot versions?
@violinmke3 жыл бұрын
I think for the small price and simplicity of that manual wind that if you want a Pilot or the Citizens they sell in the India watch mills they are worth taking a chance on.
@gerardcalero43952 жыл бұрын
Hello, for this precise analysis on these HMT watches and what could be a clone .... I will try to learn the lesson, I am not sure to get there .... thank you gérard
@khersanjay5 жыл бұрын
Hi ... my Dad has a HMT Pilot .... the hatch says 201084 B and the dial @ below 6, says nothing about India or Made in India.... just wondering if this could be a franken...
@shriramseetharaman75967 жыл бұрын
Sir, today I bought a Pilot from a reputed shop in BLR..the watch didn't have a model number on the dial...I told that the watch may be a Franken and told him I learnt in this video.. then he called you and spoke to you..he also got very angry with me... finally he sold me the watch after I apologised...anyway I just wanted to apologise to you as well to have brought your name in my conversation with the shop owner...I am really sorry... still I m not sure I bought an original...any advise you can give me is greatly appreciated
@shreekanthshinde39847 жыл бұрын
i was in banglore i trying to buy hmt pilot and sona and i got lot of fake ones but after watching this video i am relieved i have a oriingal pilot watch.............black one. proud owner...
@prashobyutube7 жыл бұрын
Hi shreekanth, can you tell me where you got your pilot watch in bangalore? i have been hunting for it for a long time.
@greatvelu3 жыл бұрын
Nice narration
@viroxxx3 жыл бұрын
Yo tengo 3 relojes franken, pero aun así me gustan. Compré 1 janata retro. Según entiendo, la empresa HMT está armando relojes con lo que haya disponible en sus bodegas. Hoy se pueden encontrar una gran variedad de modelos con diferentes acabados del supuesto modelo original. Ni la empresa HMT te asegura la completa autenticidad, sólo nos queda aceptar que las partes son originales aunque sean tomadas de otros modelos de relojes de la marca HMT. Me han dicho que HMT empezará a importar movimientos para completar de armar relojes con las piezas que les quedan en bodega.
@d.dranner51505 жыл бұрын
I love my "made Pilot" frankin built with India under the six. I don't care if it's built from others, as long as it's from the wonderful country of India built of Indian hands of HMT parts. It keeps almost perfect time by mechanical standard.
@HMTWatchCollector5 жыл бұрын
As long as you know what you have and enjoy it everything else is secondary.
@AbhitejSidhu8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I got a white pilot from eBay, a year ago, even if its franken its quite beautiful.
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
As long as you know what you have and enjoy it everything else is secondary.
@ishworrajkumar4442 жыл бұрын
I ordered a Janata from the official website recently. I love the watch although the crystal/glass is slightly loose. Is this a common issue?
@TheBryan12846 жыл бұрын
Thank you..
@angelvalle6515 Жыл бұрын
They are what they are refurbished watches , some of the dial configurations are cool and if you want original they aren't alot more.
@shabnamfatima35343 жыл бұрын
Where can I get a genuine blue dial or red/yellow pilot?
@ManishSahay8 жыл бұрын
Good info... thanks :)
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words
@GirishKAnanthakrishnan3 жыл бұрын
The tear drop stuff is enlightening! I guess I have a franken Pilot!
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
This is a dated video, as HMT has now released HMT pilots with printed lume instead of hand applied lume.
@mangeshmirashi94172 жыл бұрын
I also have one but information you provided in video it seems to be like I get a frank version.
@sunilkumar302524 күн бұрын
Can you tell by seeing pics of watch if tbats original ? I have two pics of hmt watch told its genuine
@Mal_uim Жыл бұрын
You will also find the lume on the reap hmt actually is lume and not simply lume coloured paint on the dial it will be visible at night.
@upendersingh98195 жыл бұрын
Sir Please show us a review video for hmt gautam watch.
@jeevanjanith42334 жыл бұрын
Is the movement original ?
@siddj084 жыл бұрын
Hi sir. Just purchased a Pilot. Was wondering if you could look at it and tell me if its an original or a Franken?
@atanudhar76664 жыл бұрын
Please tell me where can I find hmt watch
@nikhilakre97573 жыл бұрын
Lovely video fellow collecter. Air plase could u tell me what is Luba Hmt original watch? Is it the actual thing or a reconstruction?
@govindsharan74712 жыл бұрын
When the HMT co.shut down,how the watch is still available and where from being manufactured.
@dexternyc10615 жыл бұрын
Hello. I have a black hmt pilot. The dial looks nice with hand applied teardrop indices, but only says India on the bottom. Can I send you a photo for your opinion? Thanks
@juvekajang117 жыл бұрын
Hi sir. Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, through your video, I have come to know that I have bought a fake pilot. As some would say, ignorance is bliss. But in my case, it make me determine to scourge to find the original! Would you recommend any place or website for me?
@5573vikram2 жыл бұрын
Hi where can I buy HMT pilot ? Could u help / guide ?
@aaron27094 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@aerofoil1237 жыл бұрын
Thanks for spreading the awareness. Where can one pick up genuine hmt's (used/second hand) ?
@mesreeram8 жыл бұрын
hello prasanth.. if nothing is printed at the bottom of the dial like "India made 023-1" or "made in India 023-1" ,then could the watch be considered franken?
@siddhunkarthik2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Case and case back, embedded info are only from original.
@user-uy8ii3ou3w4 жыл бұрын
I want original pilot dial and case and hands can u sale for me.
@gerardcalero43952 жыл бұрын
I come back to my comment with a question if you will allow it .... I saw on Ebay a Kajal 21 jewels model number 6906 ... the mechanism in the case is smaller, is this normal ??? thank you Gérard (FRANCE)
@Avaddon911 Жыл бұрын
Where can i buy original hmt watches
@kerolostawfik46945 жыл бұрын
Would you sell any of the original hmt watches? It's hard to get one they are all Franken being sold now.
@HMTWatchCollector5 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can check out my facebook page hmtwatchespicturegallery. I put up some of my watches for sale there.
@aarounge5 жыл бұрын
Where can I purchase the original green pilot in Bangalore ? I don't see these watches online on the HMT website.
@sunilkumar302524 күн бұрын
On Tumkur road they have outlet
@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-19685 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I was looking to buy a Pilot HMT from eBay. But now you have exposed it as not being genuine. Thanks for warning me.
@mustafaduz716 жыл бұрын
Hello from Istanbul. I love Hmt watches.but not selling in Turkey. On ebay selling 20$ price.this watches are original?
@faizsk8644 жыл бұрын
Depends on models, although you can't get original coloured pilot for 20usd.
@dr.r.ravindraiah97488 жыл бұрын
Pandey ji, thanks for the videos. Can you post a video for aligning HOURS & MINUTES hands on for a Mechanical watch.This will be useful as most of the Mechanical watches will suffer from Misalignment of hands with age. Thanks...
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
I have replied to your comment with similar question on another video of mine.
@johnnysagittarius85786 жыл бұрын
HMT Watch Collector
@roshanpatel078 жыл бұрын
i want to buy an original hmt janata/pilot watch. the official website does not have it. from where can i get one?
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
The site does get updated once in a while but for last few weeks the updates are far and few, the best place to hunt hmt watches is by checking old watch shops in your city.
@bobbieber8 жыл бұрын
good luck finding such a watch in germany ;P - very nice video, i wanted to own an hmt and have sadly fallen for a frankenwatch on ebay..maybe ill have more luck in the future. Anyway, thanks for educating me.
@roshanpatel078 жыл бұрын
Since then, I have found a good number of HMT watches. some from the official website and some from eBay. bobbieber try some good sellers. There still are so many good pieces on eBay. Do your research well. Facebook pages like hmtwatchcollectors would be of great help.
@Lostbychance3 жыл бұрын
I have recently purchased hmt pilot black from HMT website. The endices are not printed there is not tear drop effect but INDIA on right and 0231A on the left handside of 6 is written. I am confused now. Do HMT original websites also sell any franken watches? Or have they adopted some machinery or automated the printing on dials job?
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
They are selling original watch but the dial is not made the way it was made earlier they have outsourced the dials and therefore the finish is not similar to one's i have shown here. They are using the movements available with them and making these watches
@Lostbychance3 жыл бұрын
@@HMTWatchCollector Okay. Thanks for your reply. Also by saying"movemeents available with the" do you mean very soon they will stop selling watches once the movements are finished. Or they movement parts are still in production.
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
@@Lostbychance yes. As per the current situation these watches will be available for sale till the stock of hand winding movement lasts.
@mayankrakeshiya7450 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir where I can buy HMT watch ?
@biharijivandana68946 жыл бұрын
Sir yesterday I saw a HMT Sona with only India written on it and the owner says it's an old model so can I say is it genuine
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
I am planning to make a video on HMT Sona watches to help people differentiate between original and fake
@podolanko73 жыл бұрын
I live in Slovakia (Central Europe) and I would love to be able to have a real HMT watch. I just randomly bid on an auction on an old HMT Janata (just for fun, knowing that it was 100% a very old Franken watch) and it arrived just today and I love it. Do you know any reputable seller that sells abroad? The original HMT watches site does not ship abroad.
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it would be difficult to pin point a dealer because at times even they are not aware that there watch is franken
@rdtaylor8585 Жыл бұрын
real great video, do you nowhere i can buy an original HMT
@shabnamfatima35343 жыл бұрын
Dear thanks! Great info. But it is rather appalling to note that even HMT is now offering PILOT Black dial watch with a dial that is akin to a franken one! The same printed big lume dots and not the tear drop hand applied type.
@prashantmlpm3 жыл бұрын
The current one's are similar to the franken one's as they are not made through the coining process. HMT gave in to the constant demand from its customers for the pilot watches and outsourced dials and cases etc. However they did course correction in terms of the dial but still it would never match the charm of the older version. There were some who hated the comparatively messier application of lume on earlier watches and they like this one. Therefore you have haters and takers for both.
@RaviShankar-es6bk3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@vardhankamat42253 жыл бұрын
How much would be the difference in price original and Franken?
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
You can check the prices on ebay and the original ones listed on HMT website
@alongthebluff6 жыл бұрын
The HMT logo never printed on the dial?
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
I have recently come across one exception where HMT was printed on the HMT pilot dial
@abhijitdandekar87404 жыл бұрын
Sir pls guide us ..from where to get the original hmt watches as lot many models are not available on hmt website...
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
Models available with HMT are the one's listed on their website. For other models you have to get in contact with private individuals or Olx who are selling them. You would be lucky to find mint condition watches at a nominal price.
@PromodhSridhar7 жыл бұрын
Thank you man .. really appreciate your effort to spread this awareness.. I myself am looking for a hmt pilot .. do you know where I can look for and buy .. I live in Chennai!!
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
Contact me on hmtcollector@gmail.com
@rohitprajapat134 жыл бұрын
Hi sir, can you let me know any good hmt handwind watch repair person.
@rohitprajapat134 жыл бұрын
Bangalore
@dineshkohli24874 жыл бұрын
Please let me know from were to get orginal hmt watch I'm ready to spend 5000to get hmt orginal watch
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
Please contact me on hmtcollector@gmail.com
@nicoanthonyvinuya86373 жыл бұрын
How about the movement of the original sir? We have not seen it from the vid
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to take the risk of opening the original watch i bought from HMT itself.
@cheycheyc4 жыл бұрын
The maroon pilot is beautiful. I have family in India will try to look out for it. Do you have any of the hmt watches with the Hindi/Sanskrit dials? I think they were under hmt janata.
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
Yes. They are currently on sale at HMT website
@Blue_Libra4 жыл бұрын
Hello sir. I have been constantly trying to contact you to know how can I buy an original one or where to contact for. I have been looking for original HMT Pilot for quite a while but I could get one. Can you please help me sir? Regards.
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
You can contact me on hmtcollector@gmail.com
@Blue_Libra4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir. I would definitely contact you there. I am quite curious about mechanical watches, especially HMT. Coincidentally, I went through your KZfaq videos and found that you are one of the best HMT watch reviewers on KZfaq, being a collector yourself. So my enthusiasm rocketed sky high. Please help me get an original HMT PILOT, sir. I would be grateful to hear from you again. Greetings from Assam!!
@Arvind_Bagri3 жыл бұрын
@@Blue_Libra you can get HMT watch on HMTwatches.in
@RajB92J18 күн бұрын
Sir, Can you sell one original pilot watch to me?
@provishu8 жыл бұрын
what does fraken mean? Replica or duplicate?
@DrQuiza8 жыл бұрын
+provishu It means it's reconstructed with parts from different watches and sources, like Frankenstein's monster.
@HMTWatchCollector8 жыл бұрын
I agree with DrQuiza
@relojesdelmundo25924 жыл бұрын
In Ebay i see many htm... I know a seller who sell only original?
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
It's very difficult to recommend a seller as you cannot trust any seller blindly these days.
@adithyans53343 жыл бұрын
Sir can we buy hmt watches from flipcart, is it orginal? Sir please replay
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
Buy from HMT ltd website only.
@DhavalFuletrapla4 жыл бұрын
Hi where to this watch
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
Contact me on hmtcollector@gmail.com
@viroxxx3 жыл бұрын
¿En dónde podremos encontrar relojes HMT originales a buen precio?
@neooension12563 жыл бұрын
En la tienda
@viroxxx3 жыл бұрын
@@neooension1256 caeme bien.
@fishman19554 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy an original?
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
HMT watches Ltd website
@primaladventure1017 жыл бұрын
how many dollars cost a watch on the official website? it shows the price in Indian currency...how can i buy that?
@HMTWatchCollector7 жыл бұрын
Shiatsu ZenDo The official website is not working at present and they don't ship outside India.
@balachandransham40284 жыл бұрын
Hai I will help you to buy ...
@sumansatyam Жыл бұрын
Check their new site. These cost about $40-$50 in India.
@sheikhnaim4392 жыл бұрын
Mere pass Hain HMT whatch 50 year old
@Defundemorats6 ай бұрын
Rip
@parameswaranvaidhyanathan51184 жыл бұрын
Sir, I saw your above video on fake pilot watches. It was very useful. Are all watches which is printed as INDIA in the dial are fake.......
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
No. The information given here is applicable ONLY to the coloured pilots shown in this video.
@mahendrasinghmeena8442 Жыл бұрын
Sir please Hindi me bhi video banao
@AnyoneCanSee6 жыл бұрын
Do you sell watches please or can you advise on a genuine HMT watch seller. There are thousands of watches on eBay, all fake.
@vishaljassal239 Жыл бұрын
I like to buy pilot watch
@bharathkumar5607 Жыл бұрын
Have you got any place??
@ishwarchand41777 жыл бұрын
I could not understand
@shreekanthshinde39847 жыл бұрын
beware in banglore there are lot of assholes sellling fake watches.. one guy even got angryy when i was little choosy...
@sayyedadil93553 жыл бұрын
Bhai hindi me video banao Bade bade youtubers Hindi me banate hai isiliye unke lakho me subscribers hai 6 saal me aapke sirf 2.6k subscribers hai aur audio quality bhi behter karo Thank you
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
मैंने हिंदी में वीडियो बनाए हैं। कृपया प्लेलिस्ट देखें।
@sayyedadil93553 жыл бұрын
@@HMTWatchCollector check kara bhai sir thank you🙏🙏🙏
@mattbod6 жыл бұрын
I bought mine from UK on ebay. The lume and everything else seems ok but just says India as manufacturer. It was only £15 but will be first and last foray into Indian watches. Cannot seem to find originals anywhere and ebay full of con men rip off merchants
@jayanthkumar79646 жыл бұрын
hmtwatches.in still stocks many. But i think they only ship to India. You should find someone willing to hold them for you or send them for you abroad. I got a nice HMT Kohinoor today, and will be looking out for a HMT Pilot and a HMT janata. Cheers.
@violinmke4 жыл бұрын
Its not like I hocked the family jewels to buy one thats coming that I paid 20 $ for.
@shahkushal14953 жыл бұрын
Please allow me to contact you through Email. I want to buy a pilot watch.
@HMTWatchCollector3 жыл бұрын
hmtcollector@gmail.com
@abhijitbosecognizant4 жыл бұрын
Dude may be the watch is really franken but the points on which you are judging doesn’t make any sense. Thing is HMT doesn’t have any consistency on cosmetic side of a particular model. As an example I recently bought a HMT jubilee from jalahalli showroom in Bangalore of which it is written only “India” at the bottom of the watch face.So I appreciate your effort on guiding people to avoid counterfeit HMT items from ebay or so. But before that you should gather more knowledge on the originals.
@HMTWatchCollector4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment but please note that this video is strictly related to the HMT coloured pilots shown in the blog and is dated. HMT has recently released coloured pilots with art Deco numerals this video if used for checking the genuineness of those watches. HMT may release watches in future which may be inconsistent with my blog but then the blog would be dated for them. Hope this clarifies.
@abhijitbosecognizant4 жыл бұрын
@@HMTWatchCollector speaking of inconsistency the whole HMT thing about visible imperfections. such as lumes are not well positioned, dented case back , so and so. But we rather consider these imperfections as the perfections from lost art of making Indian mechanical watches with throw away prices. Also HMT mechanicals add up a little pedigree. :)