This talks about the origins, the origins are from the 16 century which pre-dates the United States.

Wow that's powerful Some of My Tios had it with a peacock too.

Yes, the devine Holy Trinity. The father, the son and the holy spirit.

There is not much written about them because they were very secretive and did not let outsiders in. What is know is that the word Tirili comes from the word Tirilones and means something like someone who is poor in Calo. Calo is the language that they spoke and that the Cholos speak now. Calo or Gitano Calo originated in Gypsy Spain. The Calo that is spoken now is known as Chicano Calo or Pachuco Calo and is mix with Romani, English, Mexican Slang, New Mexico Slang, Mexica Nahuatl and other words picked up along the way. Most of the Tirilones were made up of Mexican bandits, Gypsies and other criminals and gangs. There is a book named Gangs of El Paso-Juarez Borderland that I haven't read yet. There is information out there just have to dig and dig.

Yes the 3 dots for mi vida loca originated in California. Back in the day there was not really a divide between Northern and Southern Cali like there is now, all that stuff happens in recent history with the prison gangs.

It literally stands for Christianity and protection

@@BarrioTirilon1940 thank you🙏🏽

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The shoe shine kids use to tag their gang names with shoe paint prior to the 1940"s

@@BarrioTirilon1940 yeah but what made them write the letters in that style? something had to influence them

@@caivsivlivs the los angeles times and military discharge papers etc and anything Official were all in that gothic old English script format so they wanted to portray that same power wheb writting thwir names and neighborhoods ... Theres books about it street writers and one called cholo writing Latino gang graffiti in Los Angeles

Letras angelinas is a style that comes from old english or blackletter remember that mx had more communicacion with europe and we had printing before anyone in this continent and there typography was old english and it was modified by chicanos to identify themselfs

The style per-dates California. The Tirilones we're around since 1910. The style didn't show up in California until the 40's. The suit was just the fashion at the time, the Tirilones actually pre date the suit too

Yeah you must be thinking about the cholo style and the lowrider style now those Styles came from California but the Pachuco stuff that's from El Paso Juarez area homie.

What? Bruh you have no idea about Texas I was born in LA north Hollywood but I lived in dallas since I was 2 I’m 32 now and Pachuco came from El Paso from Juarez but in the rest of Texas we have city boy style and vaquero estilo norteño unlike many Californians we Latinos were lynched by racists in Texas and segregated from whites with the black homies this is why we came up with pachuco and vaquero estilo it’s our way now it has evolved because of the Mexicans who kept coming here. While Cali had lowriders it made its way down to Texas the car culture but unlike Cali Texas land isnt made for lowriders where you could ride smoothed and get close to the ground Texas is rough and like the land we needed to adopt and that’s when we got into Trokiando and then the new generation has evolved into Takuaches. But you cannot hate on Takuaches back then in Texas we were shamed for speaking Spanish having our culture many of us forgot our culture and language but now the new generation says fuck that and only speak Spanish to eachother but knowing English having Edgar haircuts(the Edgar was inspired by the Aztecs and Mayan haircuts) and listening to rolas from corridos to norteñas and Cumbia rap we pioneering a new latino style that (no hate to cali) y’all gave up on in cholos. I was in Cali the beginning of 2022 I barely saw some Edgar haircuts and some sort of lowriders trucks they just need a lingo that a friendly Texan …like me passed on to in pacoima 😈now let’s see how far it can go “si quema o no quema cuh”😎😎😎

That's a good question, to be honest bro I don't know but I do know that the peacock tattoo was popular back in the 80's here in Texas, around the 90's it faded away. I'll have to look into it.

@@BarrioTirilon1940 I used to put the peacock tattoo on all kinds of Chicanos when I was in the California pinta back in the 60s, that and the Madre tattoo, the white boys liked the death or emaciated guy with the syringe over his shoulder. That's how I made my canteen, tattooing, and spit-shining shoes.

No just means it's radiant

@@BarrioTirilon1940 does it still have the pachuco signification?

@@ivypsycho2727 yes and no. Pachucos we're not the first or the only ones to had it.

It is not a fad. It goes way back to before the United States and before Raza started using it.

My grandmother's grandfather was of French descent. His Family settled in Mexico after the war with France.

Originally the lines mean that the cross was radiant, now days some Norther California Gangs use to represent X4 14 or Norther California

It’s a native symbol for peace and good luck

@@miguelr6989 that is a completely different symbol.

@@BarrioTirilon1940 that symbol was used long before gangs

@@miguelr6989 That's what I said in the video.

Yes it's safe but some people might see it as gang related because they don't know any better

@@BarrioTirilon1940 Simon carnal, Gracias bro

Noooo do not get the three 3 you have to earn that trust me foo someone gonna test your “ gangster “ and see if you really about that life

Anyone can get it. Originally it was not gang related. The gang members adopted it.

@@BarrioTirilon1940 could i get mi vida loca on the corner of my eye if im not ina gang?

@@elmeromero5053 No. Mi vida Loca is a gang related tattoo.

@@BarrioTirilon1940 how about the pachuco cross with the three lines on top

@@elmeromero5053 you should be fine depending on what the are you live in is like.

It is. Most people will see at as gang related but they are not educated on it's true meaning. The cross pre-dates gangs, pachucos and the Americas. It goes way back and is used for protection.

@@BarrioTirilon1940 ohh ok but if they see it at as gang related would they do something to me ..because I’m planing to get it in between my index finger n my thumb so I want to know if it’s safe so I can get it there

@@VenomGaming-qh5dx You can get the cross without the radiant lines like some Indian Christians do. The misconception is that the lines represent mi vida loca or other things along these lines are false. Mi Vida Loca is symbolized by 3 dots and is gang related in origin. Northern Cali gangs use for lines or 4 dots. But the original meaning of the radiant cross still remains the same. The Pachucos or Tirilones adopted the cross from the Gitanos of Spain who brought the cross from the old world.

@@BarrioTirilon1940 ohh ok sounds good I’ll probably get it ..thank u so much for everything 👍🏾🤙🏼

I'm not from a gang and I have one tatted on my face but then again I was in Jail with Mexican Gang members who are affiliated its just the culture and what your around

Technically yes.

The Cholo style did originate from CA, true but they style has it's too from the Pachucos. Any OG from CA will confirm that.

Pachucos are from the Southwestern United States, Cholos is a term that I believe was invented by people from Old Mexico to call the Chicano from here. I never heard a Chicano growing up refer to himself as a Cholo or Pocho which we understood to be a derogatory term in reference to us!

Then what does it mean?

Thats exactly its origin… like everything else people like you twist it to something more perverse, eg doin time with each line representing how many years done doin time, etc…

@ntorious county You are very uneducated and have no stripes with your zero posts and 10 subscribers ese 4 reals. LOL.