Always nice when Ork players have a chance to take their Nobs out and play with them.

I always used Nobz, even when they werent good just because they're a centerpiece of an Ork Waaagh! Just 10 of the Bosses biggest bullies is a cool sight to have around your Warboss

Please please please games workshop. Don't swing the nerfhammer again. I couldn't play my nobs for about 3 years now, until now. Finally they are fun to use.

They are what I would have wanted Company Vets to be, before seeing them at the literal bottom of the barrel of the marine update. Btw I'm talking about internal balance, I know SMs certainly don't another good unit atm

I really wish the big choppa was -2ap like you said heh. It would have made alot more sense. With normal choppa at -1, big at -2, and Uge at -3.

UK friends - Nobz are one of the cheapest Elites choices in the game on eBay and will frequently go for 15 GBP or thereabouts, even when new on sprue

For almost the same price as two Nobz kits, you could get the AoS Orruk Ardboys kit of 15 models, and either kitbash on some klaws/saws, or run them with their melee weapons as double choppa or choppa/big choppa

Boss Nobs don't have extra attacks. They have more attacks than the boyz, but in nobz and meganobz the unit leader doesn't get any benefits.

Orks die in droves. The ones with the strength and cunning to survive should be a decent cut above the baseline. As someone that ran the green skins for a long time in both fantasy and 40k I like seeing them do well.

Really glad to see them looking good again. They'll be a fun unit to play again

One again a great amount of information from you, it's always great to catch up on fun and meta news. I also hate that you made me laugh with the dry way mentioned that "nobs is also a funny name as well" well played sir.

Worth noting * the "Breaking heads " Strat also only works on a 4+ for that expensive 2 CP

Sadly big choppa isn’t ap-2 like you mentioned it’s ap-1. It’s just bonus strength modifier. That said my friend and I are convinced the original 9e ork preview from gw had big choppas at ap-2 and they retconned it to ap-1 for the codex

My triumphant return to the tabletop after 20 years was against a Goff pressure list. I never got out of my deployment zone that game. I had no idea the buggers could move all the way across the board in one turn. It's friggin ridiculous.

That sample Goffs list from Da Bolton Waaagh! brings me joy, as does the fact that Nobz are actually good. (Now if only I'd built mine as pure melee instead of a mix based on what was actually in the kit...)

I would put Nob mobz in trukk for first turn to move closer, then maybe call WAAAAGH! second turn and not even upgrade them to Trukkboyz because that would loose the klan rules. Also might be tempted to take few nobz with kombi-rokkitz.

ive been running 30 nobs with klaws and choppa as deathskulls. when you take a mega boss aswell as a waaagh banner you can get those klaws hitting on 2+ and they kill just about anything they touch, have a weidboy cast warpath on them. during the waaagh thats 50 klaw attacks and 10 choppa attacks with warpath, 1 free re roll, and then they are all obec and have a 5+++ against mortal wounds and they ride in wagons

This is why I do not give a single damn when people say “don’t buy, they aren’t good” I like them, I got a bunch when they were not advised. Now they come around. Sure it will swing back, but that is how it is

He said do do. Looking forward to Nobs being viable when I next play.

I have mine with big choppa and choppa. Still 2 damage but choppa gives one extra attack. 30 big choppa attacks and 10 choppa attacks regular and 40 big choppa attacks plus 10 choppa attacks in the waagh.

I've been fielding a unit of 10 with big choppas+choppas for a little while now, they always manage to do something of note.

As for Killsaws, it isn't hard to fashion some from the big choppas blades. Though you might want to heat up your cutter in a lighter flame for a second or two for cleaner cuts through the plastic.

While the models aint that bad i would prefer new bigger nobs.

Okay but everybody is sleeping on Kans, my roommate has absolutely bodied me and the rest of our gaming group with a big blob of kans dropping in from deep strike and crushing in with ramming speed

Must be a new, better kit coming in 10th! Better get those greasy meta-chasers to help us shift some stock before it drops, eh?!

recent changes had me diggin mine up and rebasing them..... Yes, my collection is old enough to be pre-32s

I've got 50 ork Goffs painted up. This is great news

Would a power stabba and power klaw nob work well? Would it be the best combination of weapons possible?

You must take the new AoO detachment, but you are also allowed to add a Patrol Detachment, or a Lord of War Detachment, says so in the Mustering armies. So can you gain a second Specialist mob outta the Patrol detachment you can take in addition?

can the genestealer cult take aegis defence line? Thanks

The beast snagga boys are almost as big as the nobs in the kit.... if not as big. If you use the heads and arms from the nobs kit on the beast snaggas it looks anatomically correct.

Been bringing a unit of 5 with dbl Choppa in Boarding Actions and they are fun. Kill something turn 2, die turn 3. Just as Gork & Mork intended.

Finally I can field my 20 black reach nobs! (After some surgery for big choppa+choppa!)

Klaw (or Saw) and extra Choppa is CLASSIC Warboss combo and I will endorse it. TBH I think Klaw is good enough because it give extra reliability (D3 damage never sits right with me), even at slightly reduced AP.

These sound good! On the other hand, I've always personally been more of a fan of Meganobz, since I prefer my 2+ Sv when it's available. Since you didn't go over it as an upgrade, I'm guessing they are still sort of a separate unit choice, which might mean more expensive models, slightly different rules, and different kit options, but how do Meganobz compare to this? Is the MegaArmour worth it for them, and the Warbosses they hope to someday suprass?

Snakebites are the least played?

Might load up 20 in a battlewagon, one squad with the choppa combo and one with saws

this does answer why the Nobz are sold out on GW webstore. I just started collecting Orks so I guess I'll wait, I'm not looking to meta chase.

yea love that orks are getting some love but we alllll know that 10th ed is around the corner so will be waiting for that to rules vamp.

Good unit, and a cheap kit with absolutely tons of bits. Bash em up with whatever Ork bodies you want to make even more nobz. I tried out a Big Choppa/skotcha squad in Boarding Actions and they absolutely abused the marines I was against.

While I have been running a ‘Funny’ Unit TRANSPORT Battle Wagon with Ard Case and deff rolla - 135 6 Mega Nobz -180 warboss mega Armour- Ard az Nail and HeadWoppa KillChoppa -115 5 x Kommandoz - 60 ( who take the brunt of exploding Battlewagons + are great for taking objectives in cover or fighting near terrain) But with Cheaper Nobz …. Purhaps replacing all the Mega Nobz with 180 points cheep Nobz or Having a MSU Mega Nob unit and 90 points of regular Nobz….might be a good idea….

Are Speed Freeks list's doing any good at this time? I'm tempted to start an Ork Army,more specifically Speed Freeks

Now my converted black orks can get a workout once again.

This makes me so happy, I bought so many nobz when I started because they looked cooler. Now when Ghaz runs in it’s with more nobz

There are four big choppas in a box. You'll have plenty of compatible spare klaws if you built horde boyz at any point in the past, but folks who went MSU with them may struggle a bit. Kombi-weapons are a trap, so the number of them is irrelevant. The thing you're actually tightest on are the offhand choppas, but there are five arms them and plenty of slung bits for any big choppa boyz that are holding them in two-handed grips. 7:35 The boss nob has the exact same profile as the rest of the unit, no extra attack or even leadership. These are still glass hammers, but at least they're cheaper glass hammers now. The newfound power of marine armies will have even more people reaching for efficient D2 weapons, and nobs evaporate to that kind if attack.

with arks of omen can you get 2 specialist mobs per detachment for 1 cp ?

I've had 1 AoO game and I used 8 trukk nobs, 4 klaw 4 big choppa and killed an mini knight in 1 turn. Do recommend!!

You said big chop pas were AP-2 but they’re only -1. Wondering which AP your used for the calculations?

Today my Nobz will shine in battle!!!

They're good in a trukk thrown forward to delete a unit but they're so soft they tend to die right after so you better pick a good target for them to hit.

The only issue with the video is the list presented is for Nihilim. It doesn't work with Arks now - HQ wise anyway. Otherwise it does.

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So, we've lost wargear of option of having both a kombi and a melee weapon... and no kustom shootas again... RIP my wysiwyg

Can't wait to see what kind of challenge they bring. Can my blood angels still handle them with ease

This could use an update for 10th

"Very strong" is a.. strong word. They have gone from being bad to being decent. They are not "Very strong". The big choppa is still only a -1AP weapon, and the loss of the secondary, "biggest and da best", means the secondary "Greentide" is used more often now. Nobz dont work well with "Greentide". If you want to go for a powerklaw you still pay 22 points for a model that dies to a stiff breeze. Furthermore they still need a transport because they only have move 5 and no real defense. They are 17 points per model with big choppas, and while they will kill any space marine equivilent in melee if they fight first, they will also DIE to any given space marine model that fires upon them at a distance. A distance, that can be difficult to gap with cheaper space marines that now has more firepower and more models. Making even a trukkboy Nob squad a bit difficult. Nobz are in a decent spot with arks of Omen, making the playable competitively, but they are not amazing. They should have had a point reduction in points on their base model, not only the weapons upgrades.

Lol, I just started an ork army and finished 20 boys, and 10 nobz with double killsaws.

How would their points change if their toughness was lowered in favor of more wounds?! In 10th edition I'd like to see a lot more T3 and even T2 troops, instead of removing the toughness check altogether. I'd balance a few types of fodder troops differently. Guard will have the cheapest T2 (conscripts) mirrored by various cultists, while orks will have more wounds. 'Nids would rely on easy psychic powers that regenerate or give fnp. With AP and their bonuses a bit limited, you'd have more variation in units, with armor actually having meaning and those with low or no armor cheap but vulnerable. A bonus like combat doctrine would only be given to half range, possibly allowing multiple doctrines to be active. For this reason I'd remove all possible AP from flamer and frag weapons, and compensate in price or strength. A 6 0 1 profile would be ideal to kill the weakest type of T2 fodder. With a few more S9 weapons and a rule of auto wound on S at least 3*T you would save some rolling. While a lascannon would go to -4 at half range, a 9 -2 D6 rocket wouldn't but could be the perfect poor man's alternative. For multimelta I'd like to actually have multiple shots, the profile of a fragcannon would be ideal 7 -2 2 at long range, 9 -3 3, or -4 with bonus. Instead of removing the toughness step, I'd like to see it reversed and rolled by the defender. The attacker instead sometimes gets an optional precision roll, 1++ (auto succeed by default) , 2++ if a 5++ or 6++ invul and 3++ if 3++ or 4++. This is then modified by 1-2 for light/full cover. An effect normally triggered on a wound roll of 6 is moved here, like sniping. If no cover, invul or sniping this roll can be skipped. This means invuls now do not lessen the value of actual armor nor of AP. This would also mean a lot for fodder armies like orks, where want to use movement and cover effectively to pwn in melee.

1 boss in mega armour, 10x nobz with big choppa/choppa in a truck

I miss the cybork klaw nob blob from 5th

WAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

ok so how do you role "Big Choppa/Choppa?"

They still haven't got their Cybork Bodies back yet. -_- BTW, you can't actually double up Killsaws. The text is just a copy-paste from Mega Nobz. If you read the wargear options, there's no way to take two Killsaws. You could theoretically take a Killsaw and a Power Klaw, though that would be pretty pointless.

Talk about the runtherd

22p for the powerclaw nob and 30 for the meganob, i dont feel the normal nobz, 8p for 2+ and a third lp, only the trukk boys arguement is nice

Big choppa is ap -1 not ap 2

I miss ‘ard boys.

ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS!!!

i was wrong truckboyz them :D never make them truckboyz, they cannot charge when the truck has moved before they disembark ! Rules FAQ page 8 is about " Remaining Stationary" but the last part hits truckboyz i think : 7. Even if a Transport model is subject to such a rule, embarked models still cannot disembark from that Transport during the Movement phase if that Transport has already moved, unless that Transport (or the models embarked within it) have a rule that explicitly allows them to disembark after the Transport has moved (but if a unit does so, it cannot then charge during the same turn). Please correct me if i am wrong, i would love to charge :)

Now, GW, buff Flash Gitz

NOBZ!!!!1

Wait, what about them has changed?

But Orkz don't even have those oh he meant Nobz.

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But... what makes them better than their previous iteration? You could always run them in a transport or alongside a warboss, that's nothing new. So why do they suddenly matter now? Would rather they just gave boyz another points cost drop honestly, there's nothing wrong with them being general purpose infantry given how slow orks on foot are.

review my gaunty gaunt boys, also huge fan of your videos found them ~3 weeks ago great work

Primaris Orks.

Day 2 of requesting an AoO Drukhari video!!

I think having double killsaws actually gives you 2 extra attack not just one because it says "if it is equipped with 2 killsaws, it makes 1 additional attack with this weapon" which I think applies to each killsaw

So don't search for Boyz Nobz. Make sure you include Orkz in your search, pretty sure I'm on some sort of list now.. ugh

I can't wait for GW to just make Trukk Boyz rolled into the data sheet of Trukk, or just make it a strat. Paying 70 points for a trukk makes me sad.

Don’t forget that if you are Trukk boys you lose your Clan Kulture.

Don't like nobs, they are still not powerful enough to warrant the points for more than one unit. Their save is awful also. Better off with other infantry.

ik people like the old models but man they look so outdated. Painting the newer ork models is just way more fun compared to these goofy looking ones

who cares in a week the rules will have changed agaijn

yarrrr

Thanks for the video, though just worth saying that Nobz can't be Trukk Boyz, as the keyword is restricted to Boyz, Nob or Warboss

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