osu! Unstable Rate FULLY Explained | How to get better unstable rate, What is unstable rate?

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In today's video, we learn exactly what unstable rate is, how to view it, what converted unstable rate is and how it all can be related to comfortability and accuracy with regards to tapping. Questions like 'how do you improve your unstable rate?', 'what is good unstable rate?' are discussed here amongst many other topics as well!
► Timestamps ◄
00:00 - Introduction
00:45 - What is unstable rate?
01:14 - Unstable Rate explained visually
02:53 - How to view your unstable rate
04:00 - Converted Unstable Rate
04:45 - Uses of unstable rate (accuracy related)
06:03 - Comfortability on map affects unstable rate
07:48 - Length of map affects unstable rate
08:54 - What is considered good unstable rate?
10:23 - Beginners misconceptions
11:32 - The reality of unstable rate improvement
14:44 - Conclusion
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@sc4mton 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you tonehh. after this video, I got a 0UR SS on centipede +HDDTHRFL. This video truly helped me on my osu! journey and I thank you for that.

@SoloGoCrazy 2 жыл бұрын

You're on You're way to become an osu! champion

@tydude 2 жыл бұрын

@@SoloGoCrazy 69th like

@artfurret 2 жыл бұрын

Wth

@floopyy_ 5 ай бұрын

No 5mod?

@yonishachar1887 2 жыл бұрын

8 years in the game and never understood what Unstable Rate is. thank you!

@Antside 2 жыл бұрын

Simply curious, what rank are you after those 8 years? No judgement I swear

@yonishachar1887 2 жыл бұрын

@@Antside My IGN is Complexity, my actual rank would be around 30k if I didn't take many breaks, as my top scores show

@Antside 2 жыл бұрын

@@yonishachar1887 that's still pretty good! Have a nice day man

@N4RKFPS 2 жыл бұрын

the video i needed the most. I've been trying to improve my unstable rate for like 3 months ty for the help!

@velia4605 2 жыл бұрын

nice and very informative video as always, thank you tonehh!

@kirby6548 2 жыл бұрын

What is also important to mention, lower AR usually result in higher UR too since they appear longer. For example I, as mid 5 digit gets like 140 ur on most maps of maps my skill level with AR 9+, but whenever I play 2*s with AR 5 I still usually think 160 ur is good and average on 210 ur or so.

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

mmm maybe, but that’s just linked in with reading anyway which is what I already mentioned. I think if you could read low ar comfortably then your average UR would be lower

@threadbreaker5851 2 жыл бұрын

Im 72k hardstuck and the only thing i have going for me is my UR

@kyokaxew9070 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy ur content, I was so stoked to see another vid from you in my recommended after so long! Solid video as always, very informative very helpful. Helped me learn what UR was cuz I had no idea prior.

@shock789 2 жыл бұрын

Subbed to this channel randomly in hope of osu info and info you delivered. Nice video

@doublea1840 2 жыл бұрын

omg a new tonehh video the man has blessed us

@Male_Parent 2 жыл бұрын

It's important to note that unstable rate doesn't get rid of outliers so it's possible to get insanely high UR values in mania on long note songs just by hitting a long note really late or releasing too early. This makes UR almost completely useless on noodle maps in mania.

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

wish I had mentioned that in the video!

@iceangelx22 7 ай бұрын

Hope you're doing well. Your videos are really interesting to watch.

@MichaelEhrmantraut12 2 жыл бұрын

Good video overall, I just wish you talked about the hz of the keyboard and how it affects the consistency of your inputs. Tokaku talked about it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nsuKidCjnszdnps.html but even then I feel like she didn't fully explain why inconsistent (125hz) inputs are bad for rhythm games. Just think about how you manage to stay on beat when playing a map. You listen to the music, you might hear your fingers tapping, but most importantly, you are hearing the hitsounds in game. The hitsounds you hear from in-game are not reliable points of reference for staying on beat, because even if you tap almost exactly on point your input can be delayed by almost 8ms if you tap right after a poll. But you still use hitsounds because even if they aren't as accurate as they would have been on a keyboard with higher polling rate, they at least give you something to work with. inb4 "it's only 8ms, me and my friend Allan play on 125hz and we have SSed several maps with OD 10" I'm not saying you can't get high accuracy with low polling rate keyboards. I'm saying that it will limit your ability to achieve a lower UR and be able to reliably and consistently get high accuracy on higher OD's, because your body cannot account for the keyboards polling rate. This would all have been a different story if we knew that EVERY input was delayed by 8ms, but unfortunately this is not the case with 125hz keyboards. That being said, I don't think most players should buy a new keyboard just because of this. Because most osu players don't take the game that seriously (especially when it comes to accuracy). And even if you are serious about the game and only play on 125hz you can still get insanely good. It does not prevent you from being a top player, but it will limit your potential in terms of accuracy and UR.

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

yeah I wish I did too! could’ve had at least a small mention since it’s a pretty good point

@MichaelEhrmantraut12 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonehhosu thank you for reading my comment :)) looking forward to your next upload

@takahashinekuo8912 Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelEhrmantraut12 "nExT uPdAtE" hahahahaha

@nightcoreperson9972 6 ай бұрын

@@takahashinekuo8912 Did you mean to spell upload?

@_rivlin_4947 Жыл бұрын

Would like to see new video so much... I hope you're doing great

@quest_playz 2 жыл бұрын

awesome video as always!

@okkens 2 жыл бұрын

omg new tonehh video lets gooooooo

@itzlqmer6084 2 жыл бұрын

V.Interesting video tonehh osu!

@cyanide_3409 2 жыл бұрын

Banger vid as always

@underfrag_ 3 ай бұрын

i just binge watched all ur videos while doing my hw. ur def one of my top 3 favorite youtubers now pls come back 🙏🙏

@Antolychu 2 жыл бұрын

Good explanation, and yes, there are no "standards" on good or bad ur, if you have high UR and you want to make it better, then just listen to the music, and have more experience (basically play more lol)

@SparkyisJack 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! See you again in a few months

@arutama 2 жыл бұрын

i would say this very helpful and well explained

@rekunan 2 жыл бұрын

Me waiting for lazer to get full score submission so that UR can actually be used for pp calc and then this video becomes outdated.

@nephree 2 жыл бұрын

wake up babe new tonehh video dropped

@happyboy9953 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for it, but can we expect video about alternating or DT alternate on jump? Nowadays most of highly ranked map contains 1-2 jumps, which are impossible to hit by a singletap.

@kaish1186 2 жыл бұрын

? Impossible?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

it’s definitely on the list! What I would suggest for now is to know that alternating is learned through brute force. What could make it easier is to play low BPM jump maps and really focus on alternating between the two fingers for the jumps and any other patterns if possible

@rosedies_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@kaish1186 It is possible but not for all players, imo stamina is key to singletap fast jumps.

@yokeomelet2883 Жыл бұрын

Please make a video discussing mouse players, how they do it, etc its rly fun to watch them do it and would like to see more insight on their play style

@2BXD 2 жыл бұрын

POG NEW VIDEO

@carrotlemon2665 2 жыл бұрын

thank you so much

@bellox 2 жыл бұрын

im going to have to agree with you on this one right here

@rosenbergkk 10 ай бұрын

16:21 Sick transition

@anneraggot 2 жыл бұрын

(happened on osu mania but I think it's still worth sharing) I got 95.something% accuraccy on a beatmap while having 574 UR so yeah if that doesn't prove that it doesn't really matter idk what will

@IN-pr3lw 2 жыл бұрын

Oh he back

@artfurret 2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhhh so that's why I get around 50 100s on tech maps often I am not 100% comfortable with them I just need to get more comfortable this helps a lot

@Orthokong 2 жыл бұрын

When the world needed him most, he returns

@BreadTeleporter002 2 жыл бұрын

damn I actually thought my UR just got way worse when I started playing DT speed, turns out my UR on average is like 20 lower than it was before, I even have a play with literal 65.58 UR that shows up at 99.90 UR.

@raiden7821 2 жыл бұрын

The based topic I already knew about it the next video gonna be about unstable rate

@dooenerblitz7718 2 жыл бұрын

THERE HE IS

@Luan-jg8kx 2 жыл бұрын

12:30 tf why the boss music out of nowhere LOL good video tho xd

@shujaatahmed3783 8 ай бұрын

Where are your videos man they are fun to watch, I watched same video like 10 times

@Adrean245 Жыл бұрын

11:59 did you think we would miss that subtle WYSI clip selection? How dare you

@Ellie_2810 2 жыл бұрын

“farm” maps (aka maps that only use the basic jump patterns and/or streams) honestly think these maps are pretty good for building fundamentals. I think you should complement them in your next video they deserve some love after all the hate they get 😭

@spelpotatis7240 2 жыл бұрын

omg tonehh upload??

@kecHik445 2 жыл бұрын

me as accuracy player hearing 9:22. "im gonna ignore that"

@jotinhazap 5 ай бұрын

por que você sumiu? seu canal é muito bom de assistir e bem informativo, volta logo!!

@1rubens2 3 ай бұрын

😭😭😭vamos ter que sabotar o cigarro dele

@michaeldubery3593 2 жыл бұрын

Great video overall. I disagree that UR can't be practiced directly, tho. I think practicing consistently high accuracy / ss literally IS training your stability. Like there are loads of maps which I am capable of ss-ing if I really focus, but which I usually get around 95-97% on when playing for fun. The reason I'm inaccurate is not a lack of familiarity with the maps, as I've played them hundreds of times, it's a lack of stability. If I were to play for ss as my goal, I'd expect my UR on those maps to rapidly improve.

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

I can see what you mean, that logic would work for high OD maps but might not work so well for low OD maps!

@flayhender7914 5 ай бұрын

where have you benn man...

@YumiNeeosu 5 ай бұрын

@to2647 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone have a link to tonehhs discord server? The one in the desc doesn't work anymore

@walktroughman1952 2 жыл бұрын

Normally yes, it's just a number... But when I'm working on getting acquainted with streaming in faster bpm, that isn't 200 or 210 even, and I play a map and I see my ur is 190, that's when I do care. It's a tangible way to see how comfortable I am tapping the bpm, in general.

@walktroughman1952 2 жыл бұрын

(for those with ocd, no my ur isn't 190, it's 190 at around 250 bpm where I just found out how to tap speed. It's around 130 at 220 and doesn't really change until around 240)

@paiks611 2 жыл бұрын

So, while I think most of it is true, I think there are exceptions for when you should indeed care about your unstable rate. It's funny that you bring that topic up right now because yesterday I recognized that tapping consistensy is actually my biggest problem right now and leads to me not being able to fc maps with any kind of higher bpm jumps. The reason behind it is me switching to tapping with keyboard after entering the 5* range. I know the patterns, I got the speed, I have the reading but because my tapping is too inconsistent I miss these jumps because of my tapps getting too inconsistent after like the first 2-3 circles of the jump section. This problem is bothering me for a while now. Now I'd really like to know what is your opinion of this and what you would do in this kind of situation, and thanks for the video!

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

I have never cared about my unstable rate personally. Ik what ur problem is, have faced that issue myself when I was relatively inexperienced but honestly I just played more jump maps and then tapping consistency improves from there. doesn’t get more complicated than that imo

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

try playing more jump consistency maps, there’s a map pack for it in my discord server in #map-packs

@paiks611 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonehhosu oh ty! i'll check em out

@_rivlin_4947 Жыл бұрын

Maybe one more video?

@darklugia2472 2 жыл бұрын

honestly everything to improve at osu is just enjoy what the game has to offer, youll find yourself improving much faster if you like what you do and play more bc yes as always thanks for the awesome video tony

@jecehh 2 жыл бұрын

Reina izumi thumbnail omg

@abaon 2 жыл бұрын

that osu! phd brocc boy has been studying for is starting to pay off. i wonder when he's going to finish that aim guide

@mouse5318 2 жыл бұрын

Some of the maps in this video were in the osu round table map pool loll

@CyndaWott 2 жыл бұрын

You can see UR in real time on Lazer

@julinko 2 жыл бұрын

thank you tonehh now i can measure how unstable my life has become

@qumania6388 2 жыл бұрын

Noiice

@masamune8775 2 жыл бұрын

He just has good rhythm sense bro

@shinejnn2 2 жыл бұрын

you know.. there are still few ton of things other than mental heath that affect part of this as well.. input latency, fps, keyboard polling rate, and our *stunning inconsistent f i ng e rs* that keep miss hitting circles for some reason 😂..

@veltlion8924 2 жыл бұрын

In my experience keyboard polling rate doesn't matter that much for UR because I managed to get 63UR once and around 70ish consistently with a keyboard that polls at 62.5hz (although granted most is just 1/2 and 1/4 simple patterns). Polling rate does matter i guess if you want to get some crazy low UR (

@shinejnn2 2 жыл бұрын

@@veltlion8924 yeah simple patterns are fine. For harder patterns tho- I think with such low polling rate, it make it that our hitting frame window's inconsistently to be hit, especially with soo many different bpm combination out there.. since different bpm will affects the polling rate(like skips frames) tho it's just based on info' I've watched. Soo if with it, most of the time we really only can rely on the luck for the polling rate to give us a good hit framing window. You know I could be totally wrong, this is just how I think it is.

@veltlion8924 2 жыл бұрын

@@shinejnn2 yeah with my experience the only problematic part with polling rate that is lower than 500 is that it will have a chord splitting problem with the bpm that has the polling rate as its factor. Complex patterns is not a problem tbh as some of my friend can do 1/4+1/6 streams (taiko) with such a shit keyboard and still got a really low UR anyways.

@shinejnn2 2 жыл бұрын

@@veltlion8924 ahh good for you guys then.. for me I've never been able to get a good UR ever.. the best I have gotten is like 90, just one time only. Usually I got around 130-250, So whenever I see 129 or below, I would be amazed at it haha xd

@veltlion8924 2 жыл бұрын

@@shinejnn2 I also got the same UR range as yours in the first 2 years or so of playing. Even my very first

@puqueumiamo 2 жыл бұрын

i dont know why but the only map where i get high ur is harumachi clover(the sotarks one)

@alekz0987 2 жыл бұрын

yes

@compuenlace1953 Жыл бұрын

Finally i can get what is UR

@LoafOfTurtle Жыл бұрын

What happened to tonehh

@welpyes 2 жыл бұрын

6 months ago. my acc is shit and i will hit 100 in od8 but. something clicked at the back of my head 2 months ago and now i can play od10 comfortably idk how, i got better for some reason

@seismixx 10 ай бұрын

Thank you the Jesus Christ of osu! for showing me the way. It's September 2023, my skills have increased a lot but I'm still waiting another chapter to be added in the osu! bible from you. I need to learn more. Hope you're having a great day.

@oyortizen 2 жыл бұрын

3:22 Tonehh out of context sus huh amogus The Rock meme bruh...

@arin5091 2 жыл бұрын

I have thousand of hours (not exactly, but 460hrs) and still no stamina, no fingercontrol, no reading, no aim, no rythmn sense and my fingers lock after 20 notes on 180bpm. So I have been playing the last 3-4 months getting better on every skillset, but it didn't really help to pop off. I still look like the biggest DT/NM 1 one trick, when I basically just want to become Rektygon. I have so many friends (I don't have friends, more like internet contacts) who sniped Tuna on Chronoxia and one Stamina player which plays since 2019 and he participated in OWC for team austria You may know Ccus.

@burnhealy3225 Жыл бұрын

tonehh i think by the time you upload more than one video the beginners are now probably seasoned veterans (jk i love ur vids even tho i am now no longer a beginner)

@Tonehhosu Жыл бұрын

you would definitely be right, i know a lot of my viewers who were 6 digits a year ago who have surpassed me in every way ahaha

@kgz727 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tonehh! Yo, I'm going to ask a question a little out of context presented in the video, but it's been causing me a lot of difficulty lately, I don't know if you've addressed this in any of your videos but recently I've been facing the difficulty of, simply, a day to day, make my gameplay worse. For example, until a while ago I was in an absurd godmode, but all of a sudden my aim got worse along with everything else lol, I always wonder if this is normal, if it's a matter of sleeping less or something, I get imagining things like: "Oh, I held the pen like that and it was doing well", and I always used the same grip but it seems that every now and then I feel weird with it. Can you tell me if this is normal?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

yes it’s normal, the variance in skill is high across every day. Some days you are shit, some days you are insane, some days you’re average. But it could be based on an exact skill, so where you’re shit at aim one day you might also be good at streams another day. So just rotate through different skills until you find something that’s fun/good to play or if nothing is good for the day just take a break or play for fun

@kgz727 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonehhosu ok, thx for the help!

@itsnotcrafter5089 Жыл бұрын

i create beatmaps with metronome for myself to destroy this bar

@Strian03 2 жыл бұрын

good video!! Can you make a spesific tips for dt. Im rank 10k and I cant read ar 10.3 . Practicing it for months and still cant

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

Try my DT fundamentals map pack in the #map-pack channel on my server! It introduces AR10.3 on relatively easy maps

@Strian03 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonehhosu Thank you

@meguminbakuretsu8744 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who has started playing HDHR a few months ago and now comfortably sticking to it, I'd say that this video summarizes unstable rate really well. Bravo.

@ItsDaki 2 жыл бұрын

bakuretsu bakuretsu la la la

@vanodew9608 2 жыл бұрын

3:27 lol

@blackcatooow 2 жыл бұрын

tonehh’s videos are always beginner friendly and good educational content, what would we do if he wasnt there for us

@ashura_amane8499 2 жыл бұрын

I though ur was related also to your cursor movement lol . More circles (long maps) more chanche to f* up. But about ur and acc% actually affect it if u want to achieve SS which also ofc gives u more pp.

@winfich Жыл бұрын

tonehh r u alive

@insomnis1440 Ай бұрын

me finishing a map that felt good and sees 498.88 UR…

@aDm219 Жыл бұрын

Hello! I need help! I need thousands and thousands of maps related to learning basics and mastery for HDHR

@adrenalr6334 2 жыл бұрын

informative good video, but personally playing i think digitalhypno's suggestion of a flamingo remix map thats just double on one map for 3 minutes, triples, quads etc, tightened my unstable rate. so would circle stream maps. not on a gameplay level but a physical training level. even wrist exercises helped my consistency. i feel like that could've been an addition onto "it comes with time" cause it could be a physical stamina issue or a rhythm-to-hand issue that could be ironed out?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

maybe, personally I dislike that video since it makes things more complicated for little reason. just playing the game in most forms helps anyway

@adrenalr6334 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonehhosu isnt the complication kinda necessary since stamina and as a result consistency are partially physical? grinding your stamina slowly over a year of playing vs strengthening the muscle groups which are strained during stamina draining situations?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

@@adrenalr6334 ohh sorry I think I misread your comment a bit. I agree with you that you can play strain intensive stuff like circle stream maps to help out with stamina (though you can also just play normal stream maps which also trains flow aim alongside stamina). I would personally play a lot of blue zenith or that burst map and stream map I played at around 8:16 or something, rather than 200bpm circle stream maps if I wanted to improve 200bpm stamina, simply because those deathstream maps bore me to death.

@hiro0two 2 жыл бұрын

I'm rank 5k and the lowest UR i ever got was 95 LMAO, for me anything below 120 is pog

@abdusubasa9461 2 жыл бұрын

basically "play more"

@Yuurimeee 2 жыл бұрын

May i ask what the map at 8:06 is?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/127440#osu/323320

@moonryu8724 2 жыл бұрын

not a league of legends guide ResidentSleeper

@ThatOneMoyaiGuy 2 жыл бұрын

the girl on the thumbnail is Reina from "Myriad Colors Phantom World" right?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

yes

@ThatOneMoyaiGuy 2 жыл бұрын

hm so this man watches anime naruhodo

@saitheruler3581 2 жыл бұрын

Dude I have just watched you video on how to get better acc and how bad jump maps are for beginners, I don't play jump maps but I still can't get passed high threes and beyond, my osu name is saispaceruler and I really need help.

@lionheart982 2 жыл бұрын

What's the skin at 3:54? Also nice vid thx.

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

sorry to say that I don’t own this skin D: it recorded with that skin on a program called danser

@lionheart982 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonehhosu noooooo sadge :'(

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

@@lionheart982 I found the base skin osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/211396?n=1 (but you will have to search up how to get the danser cursor trail yourself since that cursor trail is not built in game)

@superwhalee 2 жыл бұрын

15:35 wdym you're a psychopath HR is the best mod!

@yungcho21 11 күн бұрын

Come back

@jiraa7416 9 ай бұрын

its been a year daddy

@Viewer-986 9 ай бұрын

We really miss you😢

@alisas_3595 9 ай бұрын

what's the skin at 2:07 to 2:20 PLEASE

@in_credit 7 ай бұрын

aetrnaaberrateFujiwara v3 skin - Instafade edit

@vasilealin1021 2 жыл бұрын

please tell me what map is at 6:13 9:44

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1674456#osu/3420529 osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/461744#osu/1031991

@vasilealin1021 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@Daakkii 2 жыл бұрын

3:29 Wdym its above average

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

that’s what I like to tell myself

@norvalblast Жыл бұрын

9:10 skin plssss

@Tonehhosu Жыл бұрын

probably this one drive.google.com/file/d/1WhNWoIrxRDcET3lMEw8vxIzf5pq41prV/view

@FoxyFox-bb1bg 2 жыл бұрын

Finally woke up from your Slumber King?

@Tonehhosu 2 жыл бұрын

yep, wide awake and ready to rumble

@RinRin72769 Жыл бұрын

I swear he sounds like Wheatley

@mr.potato4695 2 жыл бұрын

I can't join discord...

@bismillahirahmanirahim 2 жыл бұрын

uhj

@M1gas 2 жыл бұрын

(osu lazer) :p

@DsiakMondala Жыл бұрын

I love how you have to insist on the point of not training for lower UR like one have to insist a mongoloid not to drink bleach. I love it because I know at least a few folks didn't listen and went farming HR on maps 2 stars above their level.