our experience as a bi couple: racism and bi-erasure in the LGBT+ community

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so this was supposed to be a chill Q&A video but after all the comments, I felt like this needed to be said. Everything from racism, fetishization and bi-erasure, there's a lot to unpack so grab a snack ✌🏼
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4:52 racism in the gay community
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14:45 bi-erasure in the gay community

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@ralphtyndall2260
@ralphtyndall2260 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100% not overreacting. You’re speaking nothing but facts that a lot of our community really needs to hear. The queer community speaks acceptance and so often displays the opposite.
@keirthBrun
@keirthBrun 3 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰
@kittikatOwO
@kittikatOwO 3 жыл бұрын
wow I didn’t even know there was a discrimination problem towards each other in the LGBT community:/
@Justin-ry2kh
@Justin-ry2kh 3 жыл бұрын
It's so true. These are the same people at all the equality marches and claim they're activists for anything that paints them to be a good kind-hearted person. They're all hypocrites. They're some of the most toxic and judgey people.
@jackthemlits
@jackthemlits 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so true. Sometimes our community is so toxic and oppose to each other, it’s just kinda sad to watch
@ThePaas
@ThePaas 2 жыл бұрын
It is really sad and true. There is a lot of hypocrisy and performative justice that goes on when in reality some folx in our community actually deep down think the opposite. It can be really toxic. But, this is not an individual or even a community problem. It is a systemic societal problem. Some of the roots of our problems in our community are not specific to our community but exist in the rest of the world via oppressive structures and forces (systemic racism, mysogany, heteronormaitivity, colonialism, eurocentricity, ableism, and the list goes on). Some of this is taught when we are growing up and some of it is experienced as trauma, which can manifest in toxic behaviours. This is deeply entrenched in society and our community, futher being excaccerbated by the multiple intersecting identities and experiences each one of us deals with on a daily basis, each unique and different. There is no one solution, but education from others in our community and unlearning and relearning within ourselves is a start.
@KristineJo
@KristineJo 3 жыл бұрын
As an bi-Asian American in a hetero-relationship with a sweet straight yt Englishman. I feel this whole video on a frustratingly accurate level. “Yes he knows my sexuality.” “No, he doesn’t care.” “No we don’t want threesomes.” “No, we are not poly. Just cause I’m bi doesn’t mean I want a relationship with both genders at the same time.” “I am no less attracted to women because I am with a man.” “No he doesn’t just like me because I’m Asian and I don’t like him just cause he’s white.” “He didn’t save me/isn’t saving me. He’s been a cheerleader as I’m busy saving my DAMN SELF” Exhausting!
@tommyv8852
@tommyv8852 3 жыл бұрын
This!!!!!! ✨✨✨
@nicholasyong7051
@nicholasyong7051 3 жыл бұрын
Peridot
@pacificodelnorte6628
@pacificodelnorte6628 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. People seem to forget that bisexuals can be romantically & sexually monogamous too.😊 One's romantic & sexual orientations have to do with one's internal feelings, desires, & attractions whether or not those are ever acted on IRL.
@Alice-ov3rd
@Alice-ov3rd 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I get so much of these stereotypes and questions as well. 💜
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 2 жыл бұрын
i would kill for a wyt man to -civilize- save me ✨
@Alice_v2.0
@Alice_v2.0 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly too many viewers have somehow managed to fail to understand your channel’s three word tagline 😒
@BaDazai
@BaDazai 3 жыл бұрын
Some people are so rude, how can they ask such sexual questions that are obviously private and personal!? Also, wow, those racists comments about Ryan and you? He will leave you? White is superior? Really sounds like a bunch of jealous people trying to annoy you because they can't stand that you have someone you love and someone who loves you back. It takes someone who is absolutely rotten inside to say such vile remarks. I really do hope that they reflect on themselves, apologise and work on being better people. Life is too short and beautiful, they shouldn't waste a minute of it on being horrible, rude and mean! What a waste of time!
@cringeyearth2791
@cringeyearth2791 3 жыл бұрын
Preach! I feel like this video is literally speaking my thoughts for me
@paulanthonyhoeflich8988
@paulanthonyhoeflich8988 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. I have people coming up to me. Then ask what my ethnic backround is.
@davidwave4
@davidwave4 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not Asian, but as a bi Black man, there's a TON of weird, hypersexualized stereotypes about us that constantly get on my nerves and make me feel dehumanized. Coming from a relatively conservative part of the country has always made being queer a struggle, but it's doubly hard when the community itself is not welcoming. You hit the nail on the head re: bi erasure too -- as a BIPOC bi person, it can often feel like there's no real space for us. So glad you made this video, let's have the discussion!
@cristhianzerimar
@cristhianzerimar 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm a bi male and half Hispanic/ half Asian so I get it from everywhere. Us bis just can't seem to win sadly but it's slowly changing hopefully sooner than later.
@beyondpetty6009
@beyondpetty6009 2 жыл бұрын
This and same. We're treated as nothing but sexual objects by so many people in the community and I'm *tired* honestly. It just feels so dehumanizing, especially because I also grew up in a rather conservative setting. I thought I could finally get out there but the racism and biphobia feels like a big slap, especially when so many people in my community don't even accept. The LGBTQ+ community needs to do BETTER.
@youmnambae7488
@youmnambae7488 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, i can relate to all that you say, hopefully we'll going to be okay
@Harry-fk5of
@Harry-fk5of Жыл бұрын
Same, it feels like I'd be better off just pretending I'm gay or straight (I wouldn't) just because I feel like most people don't get it and I often feel like I'm a bit dirty and sex obsessed which I'm not and never have been but that's the impression other people seem to have
@Maxi855
@Maxi855 3 жыл бұрын
As a bi white guy in a homosexual relationship I feel fully related to what you were saying. The erasing and constant questioning becomes isolating. I love my boyfriend, and right now that's the only person I want to be with both romantically and physically. If I say I'm bi, no one has to doubt it. That's how I decide to call myself. If I never have sex with a woman in my life, I am still bi...🤦‍♂️
@tommyhanvev
@tommyhanvev 3 жыл бұрын
Ur comment is enlightening when alot of people have these preconceived notions around bisexual people. Thanks so much
@LexusFox
@LexusFox 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that! It’s also funny to me that when you don’t mention it everyone assumed you’re straight because they think we have to act feminine, but as soon as you mention it it’s a big deal.
@mmlas8683
@mmlas8683 3 жыл бұрын
I would feel disrespected if I was in a same-sex relationship and my partner was insistent on calling themselves bi. Why bring that up.
@Tree173
@Tree173 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmlas8683 why would that feel disrespectful to you? I'm just curious. Surely you should accept your partner for who they are, and you will never be the sole person they are attracted to
@brentblasabas5212
@brentblasabas5212 3 жыл бұрын
This I agree with you 100% I can relate to this on level cuz I'm biromantic ace and have more romantic feelings for men.
@leilaforrester9103
@leilaforrester9103 3 жыл бұрын
"At the end of the day, it's just harassment" TRUTH.
@drewfriis-hansen9893
@drewfriis-hansen9893 3 жыл бұрын
I can definitely relate. I am legally blind and my husband isn’t. We get a lot of hate because I have a disability and he doesn’t. It’s like, he is with me out of charity because I must be a burden. This may not be the same thing you are going through, but I can relate to the situation.
@tin5801
@tin5801 3 жыл бұрын
Wow its sound like people are hating either because they’re stupidly jealous you’re married or stupidly jealous you’re being cared for or he’s caring for you. Its sad some people spin some sort of fault on to you or your husband as if there is a problem when there isn’t one to begin with. I hope the hate is not getting to you guys and if it is know that your guys love for each other is what matters in your relationship and not the opinions of random trash on the internet or irl. I wish for many years of happiness for you both.
@tstieber
@tstieber 2 жыл бұрын
What!?! That's crazy! My husband had a different disability (cystic fibrosis) that limits what kinds of gatherings we go to avoid upper respiratory infections, and it takes him hours of daily treatments to stay healthy, and it's very limiting, but it's just normal routine for us. Never experienced hate for that though.
@galaxylucia1898
@galaxylucia1898 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s awful that people don’t A. Know how to mind their business and B. Could say/write such rude things about you and your partner. I know this won’t always be the answer but that’s why I think representation is so important for people to be exposed to other ways of being and perspectives so they understand (since they clearly weren’t taught) that just because we’re all different from each other, it doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be treat with respect and compassion. I hope you and your partner are doing well. ❤️
@Zephur0s
@Zephur0s 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but how did you type this out then ?
@ua6523
@ua6523 2 жыл бұрын
UNBELIEVABLE!
@namchansawang8329
@namchansawang8329 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Ryan's face says more "wow, I can't believe he's mine" more than what haters say. I never understood why when people see a same-sex couple they automatically comment on their sex life 🙄. When I saw you were in a relationship with Ryan my first thought was "aww they so cute 😍" 100% not overreacting.
@alaskabane5340
@alaskabane5340 2 жыл бұрын
it's my first time watching them and I agree, just "omg cute" like I'd do to any other couple
@lifeoflycan2037
@lifeoflycan2037 2 жыл бұрын
The way he looked at you after he said "You literally pulled me from addiction" was amazing. I want someone to look at me like that.
@VibrantBLVCK
@VibrantBLVCK 3 жыл бұрын
For those who might feel attacked : “‪Being held accountable might feel like an attack if you’re not ready to acknowledge how your poor decisions impact others. ‬”
@chs75
@chs75 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@thelittlethings678
@thelittlethings678 3 жыл бұрын
This!
@MultiFandom8isFate
@MultiFandom8isFate 2 жыл бұрын
Preach.
@liteflightify
@liteflightify 2 жыл бұрын
I’m inherently pansexual. However, I do find the obsession with “erasing” and the tendencies of some to blame almost everything on the “gay community” to be tiresome. How about we focus less on identities and sociological fractures and just talk honestly about dimensions of sexuality, fluidity, contradictions, mental health struggles, the gender, sexual, romantic, affection, emotion, commitment spectrum. I feel if we emphasized that instead of placing so much focus on identities and behaviors, it’ll help a lot of fractures, ignorance and insecurities.
@DapperDanLovesYou
@DapperDanLovesYou 2 жыл бұрын
@@liteflightify It's a process. Those are 100% all things that should be discussed as well. Part of the problem with erasure is the invalidation it can inflict. Maybe future cultures will “worry” less about labels. I think we're still in the 'semantics stage' of expanding conversation to broader masses. An involved individual might (and probably will) have many beliefs and opinions and epiphanies about labels and their effects (positive or negative). However, the larger society will always be 'behind' on the forefront of modern concepts, as they are playing catch up on what the current terms and phrases even mean. Arming people with well-established, well-understood language helps stimulate wider conversation in greater specificity. It's like teaching physics; It'd be mind-boggling trying to explain bleeding-edge quantum theories without knowing “how it got there.”
@johannwu2307
@johannwu2307 3 жыл бұрын
All those haters are just jealous of your relationship ! Don't waste any thought or time to them ! They are just not worth it !
@decepticons_destroy
@decepticons_destroy 3 жыл бұрын
I was once told by a white guy “you’re hot, too bad I don’t do Asian”. I also got an Asian guy “sorry, no GAM”. And the LGBT community expects the hetero community to don’t judge us. We’re a bunch of hypocrites
@bluemoon7785
@bluemoon7785 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how someone could say something like that to another person. That's straight up racism, the lbgt community is so toxic sometimes. Especially some gay men, who treat their partners like they are objects with no feelings. If you don't wanna be with someone because of some racist reason, at least keep it to yourself, you know. Say you're not interested. I also think that's just a way of depriving yourself from happiness, cause you could find a great person, but you're only focusing on a specific ethnicity, instead of looking for someone who's got a good heart despite of all that. All this bullshit makes me not wanna start investing in my love life.
@szam21
@szam21 3 жыл бұрын
I'm bi and Asian too. I totally get it what y'all are saying.
@aarishahmad9574
@aarishahmad9574 3 жыл бұрын
Hey
@xxxdrummerguyxxx
@xxxdrummerguyxxx 3 жыл бұрын
It fucking sucks man. I’m so sorry you experience discrimination. Just know there are guys out there that don’t give a shit about that crap
@sussycatto30
@sussycatto30 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Asian too but not white skin and black skin either , in the middle , and I use bi (when ask that kind of sexuality question) as umbrella term cuz I'm still exploring.. so I kinda get what y'all saying.. it's really fucked can't believe Lgbtq community have racist still..
@j6backup626
@j6backup626 2 жыл бұрын
Bi? Or bottom who can’t accept it lol
@leangroundbeef2322
@leangroundbeef2322 2 жыл бұрын
@@j6backup626 wat
@adammoran718
@adammoran718 3 жыл бұрын
As a white *straight passing* gay person I was never really bullied for my sexuality growing up. I was bullied for many other things though so I definitely didn't escape it. I'm also in a relationship with someone who happens to be Asian so I find your videos very relatable. I admittedly used to follow many of the channels that you called out until I realized how hyper sexualized and *click baiting* they really were and said to myself "Why am I watching this stuff". I'd much rather watch a channel like this that shows real life rather than having to put on an act every week to get views. Keep your chin up guys. I think you're doing a great job!
@ahmedzone7022
@ahmedzone7022 2 жыл бұрын
Only bi people are straight passing gay people don't
@killyourdarlings1305
@killyourdarlings1305 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedzone7022 you are biphobic
@ahmedzone7022
@ahmedzone7022 2 жыл бұрын
@@killyourdarlings1305 what lol bisexual can straight passing gay people don't
@wa_akii6873
@wa_akii6873 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedzone7022 maybe theyre not in a relationship or in the closet
@oakpkdude
@oakpkdude 3 жыл бұрын
I am white and when my boyfriend and I first got together with him my friends were shocked that I would go out with a Puerto Rican. I just told them that I really liked him. He's very sweet and handsome. Today is our 28th anniversary. We don't care what anyone else thinks. If they have a problem with our relationship they can get lost.
@kendallrhodes
@kendallrhodes 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! 💯🔥👍
@mikec3666
@mikec3666 2 жыл бұрын
👍👋👏
@nandadevanugrahaa
@nandadevanugrahaa 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy for you both !! i wish i can have this too
@oakpkdude
@oakpkdude 2 жыл бұрын
@@nandadevanugrahaa Thank you Nanda. I think most people meet their soulmate when they least expect it.
@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor
@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats u guys sound great Our anniversary is on the weekend Thankful the suns coming out to:) been cloudy all morning Gday yall
@itsjustme3128
@itsjustme3128 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I don't really understand how people can comment stuff like that. It's just super disrespectful and embarassing. Like how is your thought process. Btw I love your channel. It's really inspiring and motivates me to also try harder to be a better person.
@serendipitousone
@serendipitousone 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re calling people out, Joe. I’m a lesbian and in an interracial relationship with another woman (I’m Latina and she’s white) and I feel like society has been a LOT easier on us. So that’s a privilege I will be more cognizant of. I have also fallen into the habit of joking at my own expense too (like “watch out I’m Latina, I’m hotheaded” or whatever) And I think a very “be less shitty” take would be to put and end to micro aggressions even if they come from ourselves.
@MNeathway
@MNeathway 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a really great point, you made me think about this more deeply
@gamjc
@gamjc 3 жыл бұрын
I think many BIPOC people who make jokes at their own expense have had to do that as a survival tactic; however, realizing how it’s harmful to yourself and the community at large is growth.
@MixedRogueKhorri
@MixedRogueKhorri 2 жыл бұрын
It also helps that you pass as a yt-passing or white latina......most afro-latinas or indo latinas who are lgbtq+ have very different stories.
@krististephenson6911
@krististephenson6911 3 жыл бұрын
Having watched you for several years because you create amazing content, I never cared what your sexuality was, and now that Ryan is in the picture, I've enjoyed your videos even more--mostly because seeing you happy and playful is a great thing to witness. I want to support you because you are fucking rad and Ryan is fucking rad and the two of you together = exponential rad. I'm sorry people are shitty and I'm so glad you are taking about this so we can all do better.
@nwicaksono123
@nwicaksono123 3 жыл бұрын
As a gay Asian man myself, these are things that I've been feeling and talking to my friends about and I am glad that you are bringing it up. Thank you.
@zachdeleon4706
@zachdeleon4706 3 жыл бұрын
i loved how ryan talked about how Joe helped him mentally 🥺
@geraldmalik6942
@geraldmalik6942 3 жыл бұрын
I cried. Literally.
@KingKiaXXVII
@KingKiaXXVII 2 жыл бұрын
@@soberanisfam1323 yeah same.... it would open to mental health discussion and see it as something which need to be considered instead of red flag
@techystylo
@techystylo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, I wanted to send a sincere thank you to you for addressing this issue. I happen to be a bisexual asian-canadian woman dating a lady who happens to be white. Thank you for bringing light to these experiences with honesty and class, and thank you for being someone that reminds me of, well, me, on the internet. I really admire how you're dealing with these disgusting comments. No joke, you've really spoken to some of the internalized racism/self-doubt I have against myself still. Anyway, always looking forward to your content, and super hyped for your new clothing brand! EDIT: I just got to the part where Ryan comes in to speak to his experiences, and dude I really appreciate his thoughts as well. Thank you to you both, truly.
@user-hf2vs9xl9o
@user-hf2vs9xl9o 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks every human nowadays need to watch this video? The way Joe effortlessly talks straight to the point makes me a little bit amazed and speechless.
@didierschwab2222
@didierschwab2222 2 жыл бұрын
Agree a 💯 % with your comment, that this video should be watched by all humans, we should not even be needing to discuss this subjects anymore, live and let live, what difference does it make if I ‘m straight, gay or bisexual , there are more important issues out there. I’m in my 22 relationship your with my Thai husband in a same sexe life, and I’ve given up about what others think. Joe Lee just seen your video for the first time, love your « straight (haha) forward speech. Could you do a video about simple healthy cooking, cuz man, it didn’t look tasty at all , lol . Greets from France 🇫🇷
@starwars60
@starwars60 3 жыл бұрын
One big ass thank you for sharing your thoughts, Joe. I'm a white, bisexual female, and for identifying as such, I feel like I'm hyper-sexualized by men for that particular reason, thinking they can “change me” or “you'll pick one side eventually.” Unfortunately, we’re going to come across many weirdos who won't recognize we’re all human beings. In our LBGT+ community, I'm on your side! No matter the battles, we all stick together. Sending love to you guys ❤️
@jamestod5919
@jamestod5919 3 жыл бұрын
Also Vancouver - we’re basically neighbours. I’m mixed asian-yt and my bf is yt we are gay and we’ve been together for 18 years now. We faced a lot of that early on but now that we’ve been together so long - frankly longer than anyone we know at our age 40-41 it’s not an issue. We both own-run businesses and donate and volunteer in the community which changed the script for us. We keep the bedroom private because when we did discuss that say 10-15 years ago with friends everyone had an opinion and they were not helpful… even hurtful. Much harder for you because you’re basically a public figure, and folks don’t have boundaries. Also bi-erasure is so real and navigating all of this publicly must suck sometimes.
@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor
@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor 2 жыл бұрын
Intresting comment cool sounds lovely as for idiots they can just ve blocked its good to be transparent now whats this yt I keep reading bout in the comments to me that means youtu e do u mean young trans ??
@KarlMarxBR700
@KarlMarxBR700 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I'm so impressed by your communication skills, you are a truly eloquent guy, you rapidly choose accurate words to express your feelings, thoughts and opinions in a very clearly way, I respect you for that!
@cloudofreverie786
@cloudofreverie786 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you were emotional, almost crying before your discussion is so heartbreaking. Hugs as a fellow asian man.
@machutheartist
@machutheartist 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, your relationship with Ryan is just so so amazing and heartwarming to see. Every time I see y’all together, it’s so wholesome and loving and I can tell you guys love each other dearly. Please don’t let these shitty people bring you down, they’re just immature, closed minded, jealous, and just need to understand boundaries and respect . We love you and Ryan!!
@mohdhasanuddin6610
@mohdhasanuddin6610 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@David-R-AVP0057
@David-R-AVP0057 2 жыл бұрын
I am 63 yr old man, Queer, labels are challenging but visibility is important (still). When I was a young gay activist in my undergrad days I learnt a lot from feminists and race activists. My take home was: be careful not to stereotype and generalize. I don't like people putting me in a box, I strive to be who I really am and see others as who they are as individuals. Aspects of our identity are just that - aspects. They are not who we are. I think you are right Joe about commodification. You can't go shopping for people. We are so much more than products of the societies in which we live.
@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor
@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor 2 жыл бұрын
Amen and I wish u had videos on ur channel is it new ?? Great comment
@deepabhi1233
@deepabhi1233 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, the way Joe speaks and explains everything too smoothly and like a cute little baby really touches my heart genuinely. I know to keep your relationship in balance you'll face some obstacles like these false assumptions, but keep your trust and believe in each other. you'll get through any barrier beautifully. Cheer up!! Love you guys!!
@maros450
@maros450 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Speaks up for us LBTQ Asians everything that i really want to point out that i couldn't put to words literally he could deliver it thank you Joe
@Sophia-wx6ut
@Sophia-wx6ut 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching an old Q&A video from when you lived alone earlier this year and being shocked by the number of questions asked about your sexuality & dating life. Your life is yours to live, and it is completely your choice what, and how much of it you share online. I am very sorry to hear you have had this experience, Joe. You are a great creator and your positive attitude always shines through in your videos. Take care, Sophia.
@thomasrokos5433
@thomasrokos5433 3 жыл бұрын
I feel for you. I am 57 and have a few extra pounds and have been single 15 years. I realized I have to love myself and those who do not like me just as I am do not matter. I won't lower my standards.
@harryespinosa1774
@harryespinosa1774 2 жыл бұрын
Bro
@cliffgeo
@cliffgeo 3 жыл бұрын
Aww Ryan is always supportive, and Jasper just goes with the flow with you 🤩
@khunwilliam09
@khunwilliam09 3 жыл бұрын
joe- you were spot on about many things. I've experience a lot of similar things being a bi asian myself. Sometimes its having the hard conversations to truly learn about things. When someone comes up to me and says they are interested in me because they have an asian fetish, i just tell them to move along.
@ImChrisCrossed
@ImChrisCrossed 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you addressed this, and you hit the nail on the head. When I paused to read the comments that you showed on screen, I think I realized I really internalized that negative conditioning of being disposable in the gay and queer community. I also think one thing that's been holding me back from being in a relationship is the fear of being fetishized again. It really is such a dehumanizing thing to deal with :( thank you for addressing this though, I love watching your videosss. Much love💜💜
@rebeccabircher8208
@rebeccabircher8208 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s just so fucked” 100%. I love your videos and love your point of view on all of your videos. You are doing an amazing job bettering yourself and helping others realize ways to better themselves. Thank you for being so transparent and open about this topic.
@jamesstutzer134
@jamesstutzer134 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a 74 year old white gay man. When I think of how hard our community has worked to gain a little justice and then to see that same community do this kind of thing, it makes me sad. I'm so proud of you for speaking about this and very sad that you had to.
@giuliaebasta7142
@giuliaebasta7142 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't even believe my eyes when I saw the comments you were talking about, I always forget how messed up some people's minds are. I hope your community will grow to be a more loving and confortable environment for you to be in, I know a lot of people altready are. I just wanted to say that some of us - the majority, I hope - really see you and care about your journey as a human being, without concentrating on your sexuality and other aspects of your private life. Keep up with your great content, don't let this subtle kind of hate get you. Love you guys, greetings from Italy!
@drstyn6735
@drstyn6735 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Jasper being used as a transition: “😐”
@christinamacaulay6169
@christinamacaulay6169 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm a straight, in my sixties woman living in Scotland. I love your videos and have no hidden agenda as to why I love your content other than you are entertaining, informative, funny and extremely likable....that's it, its as basic as that 😊
@DoveDaniels
@DoveDaniels 3 жыл бұрын
wow, I am speechless. people really don't have anything better to do. I feel like quitting social media altogether. how can people even make such comments and feel like it's okay. And people wonder why I stopped dating completely 11 years ago and went celibate. I just got tired of the racism, fetishization, discrimination and outright narcissistic system our society have created. I love the peace of mind it comes with and my siblings benefited because I got to put all my energy into hustling and putting them in college rather than worrying on how to impress someone else or hope to be of standard to them.
@hoanghailong3010
@hoanghailong3010 3 жыл бұрын
Love the way u always be happy and optimistic with eth, that inspires me a lot, and I also think ur partner loves u because for the same reason, because u r u. Hopefully, you will have as much happiness as you bring to people, Joe, u deserve it!
@LazyGamerScotland
@LazyGamerScotland 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video and informative. I found it so heartwarming when Ryan mentioned his mental state and whatnot before meeting you too 🥺
@adriannafitzgerald3252
@adriannafitzgerald3252 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for sharing and addressing all the comments and stereotypes that come with being bi and bringing up some personal things. I'm bi as well and have dealt with many mental health issues in relationships and worry about how dating will be. Thank you guys for just trying to make the world a little less shitty, I seriously live by your motto 🙌 ❤
@gavin_iv
@gavin_iv 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good, and necessary, video Joe. Through showing parts of your life to us always remember there are people who support you, and Ryan. 🤍
@NinjaNikki786
@NinjaNikki786 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, thank you and give my thanks to Ryan for that bit on bi erasure, nearly made me tear up. I really appreciate your videos and how you (both) handle difficult topics while still making us laugh in the end.
@phirion6341
@phirion6341 3 жыл бұрын
Duuude I'm so glad youre doing this work. Queer Asians really need these open discussions (I'm one who would've loved that as a teen)
@thescarecrow.8581
@thescarecrow.8581 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this type of Media is it is Faceless to a larger extend there is a sense of anonymity and security. So it amplifies their opinions never minded how misguided they are. There is a lot malicious, socially inept and narrow-minded people out there who enjoy the power behind the keyboard and never think of the repercussions to the individual or to themselves.
@elvincortez1484
@elvincortez1484 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, them people ain’t shit. Y’all are goals!! I’m sorry this happened to you. You guys are doing great and that’s all that matters. 🙏🏽
@matth2354
@matth2354 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful that you share your relationship on your videos, it’s become my favourite part seeing you guys together, joking around and doing everyday things. It never crossed my mind that you are different ethnicity - just nice to see such a happy and loving relationship. Never stop because of the haters please! Love you guys
@MarieMaurerKdramaReview
@MarieMaurerKdramaReview 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you addressing this topic for a few reasons: you explain things in a way that is so easy to listen/understand and I had no idea about this problem. Thank you for sharing even though the subject makes you a bit uncomfortable. People need to mind their own business and stop projecting like damn
@stevenswlee
@stevenswlee 3 жыл бұрын
Oof I totally relate to this and am afraid to go back out into the dating scene bc of my insecurities stemming from the community. Thanks for sharing your experience Joe!
@megananne904
@megananne904 3 жыл бұрын
I’m bi too, so lovely to see you talk about these issues!!
@kiravaughan1426
@kiravaughan1426 3 жыл бұрын
So, so sorry that you have to deal with such ridiculous shit, but thank you for speaking out about your experiences. As an AAPI woman a lot of this hit home with me. We absolutely need to keep this conversation going! Hope you and Ryan are taking care of yourselves in these crazy times
@yamagishikazumi
@yamagishikazumi 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing so much for the rest of us who have suffered from similar situations but felt too powerless to say anything. THANK YOU 💓
@erinh9267
@erinh9267 2 жыл бұрын
I think the comments that are rude and segregational are in part coming from bitter people to whom some of these things happened (a partner who was white left the Asian commenter, etc). It isn't considerate to be pressing that trauma onto you, as though you have to expect it. One of the many aspects of your vlog I appreciate is your not reinforcing those segregating or exploitative categories. *YEEEESSS!
@erinh9267
@erinh9267 2 жыл бұрын
As for the societal denigration of some types (and there is misogyny impacting some of that rating of males, too, as if women are more elegant and less assertive naturally....'I'm not, and ain't I a woman?') someone who has a lot in common with your boyfriend, physically and personality wise afaict, I suspect he appreciates your delightful personality--which includes a lot of assertive and skilled and particular-about-standards traits--and your physique choices and fashion along with your naturally stunning physical traits without it being a fetishization.
@sendinthelove
@sendinthelove 3 жыл бұрын
It’s 2021 and it’s sad that you even had to speak on this subject. Everything you said is 100% accurate and you are definitely not overreacting. But thank you for starting the conversation. I hope moving forward, people can...be less shitty
@jinweitan5048
@jinweitan5048 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe for being so open and honest in this topic. I think your remarks on the racial discrimination part is definitely on point. And it's good that you are creating this awareness that this box that people creates no mater to race, body or orientation needs to change.
@jphd21
@jphd21 3 жыл бұрын
This felt so close to home and I am glad you decided to talk about it because it needed to be said out loud! As a bi man myself and latino, I've heard in different occassions that since I am not feminine then I am either a "confused" straight dude or a gay acting masculine to hide my sexuality!! If we want acceptance from the rest of the world, we need to start respecting our own people first! Btw I love seeing you two together, I dont care if you are asian and your partner is white, I only see a happy couple sharing a piece of your lives with us and I am grateful about it!! Keep rocking
@tiltheendoftim3
@tiltheendoftim3 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine what it’s like to receive so many negative and intrusive comments online. I applaud you for going against the status quo. Thanks for sharing your life with us and giving us a glimpse into your life and relationship. Your videos educate and inform those in the community that don’t fully understand what being bi is. Please ignore the negative comments and continue to thrive! Best of luck to you and Ryan!
@MementoVivere.
@MementoVivere. 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happens, honestly this opened my eyes. Personally I’m non-binary and black so I usually deal with the opposite. There’s an assumption that bc Im black and like more feminine individuals I must be extremely masculine and it’s almost not allowed for me to be feminine. (Note I am female). My white non-binary partner as a female is assumed to be more submissive (the whole white women are submissive thing). It’s all fucked honestly. Thanks for sharing your experience honestly. It’s not always easy being yourself when ppl suck but as always you BLS. ✊🏽
@MementoVivere.
@MementoVivere. 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I said honestly so much I might be lying 😂
@kclarke421
@kclarke421 3 жыл бұрын
@@MementoVivere. nah you're okay, also I'm black and a closeted pan ace( asexual pansexual 😶👉🏽👈🏽👌🏽)....I have ppl here who joke about lgbt, even my damn parent😔 so sometimes I say stuff to blend in. In my country it's highly homophobic ( they even have songs written oml😭)so I don't even say I'm anything else but straight. Although I have a safe place with my close friends who feel like family and they know, sometimes their questions can be weird 💀😭. I dunno why I typed this...maybe I needed to rant or something 💀 But thank YOU for sharing your experience💕 my international friend is non binary but she's having a hard time trying to figure out a neutral name any suggestions for her/ now they them😭 But stay safe please 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽💕🇧🇧
@pacificodelnorte6628
@pacificodelnorte6628 3 жыл бұрын
@@kclarke421 Did you actually mean panromantic (not pansexual) ace? Just asking. I'm on the Asexual Spectrum too (biromantic gray-ace).
@odrade1
@odrade1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video & thank you for sharing your experiences with us. It’s an uncomfortable but important topic (racism in the LGBTQ community & also biases and ignorance about bisexuality even in the LGBTQ community), and y’all sharing your story helps so many people. You guys are a lovely couple & are great exactly as you are. Thanks again for clarifying your bi identities & speaking out.
@musicdukhoo3004
@musicdukhoo3004 3 жыл бұрын
I just love your videos so much, I'm really grateful, Joe! It's always so eye opening😊 And I think no one should be forced to reveal anything they dont want to reveal, you dont have to know everything about a person(that is not a right as a viewer of someone's videos)... best of luck for everything in your life ahead Joe.👍🏼
@anthorpology
@anthorpology 3 жыл бұрын
I think its definitely a valid point and its your lived experience, so there's no denying it. My boyfriend and I are in a similar ish dynamic, but opposite? He's Middle Eastern and I'm white so the dynamic we have is he is often viewed as hyper masculine but when they interact with him, he's fairly feminine ... I think content creators like Max and Yos definitely play into this narrative, but I can't tell if it's authentic for them vs how much they play it up for views? either way, its great that you put it out there and hopefully people are more respectful of your relationship now x
@naikamathurin2610
@naikamathurin2610 3 жыл бұрын
love you guys, and I am so glad you decide to talk about it.
@jscraps08
@jscraps08 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you have to deal with all this. You both are amazing just the way you are! Thank you for bring this up but wish nothing but the best for you guys and more toys and treats for jasper!!
@kanerodricks9930
@kanerodricks9930 2 жыл бұрын
Found your channel due to KZfaq Recommendation.. I found your content very wholesome and real. Keep up the good work, buddy! And ya steer clear of all those negative comments.. you guys rock!
@steve-oh4342
@steve-oh4342 2 жыл бұрын
In college, I had a former roommate who had an interesting take on some aspects of this. When he first moved into the house with me and 2 other roommates, he kept to himself but was always going out at all hours of the night. When all 4 of us sat down together one day for a meal I cooked for everyone, and the conversation gravitated towards sex, getting laid and dating, etc. he said he was bi and that he had been with 9 people within the first 2 weeks of living with us. He was with 7 guys and 2 girls. We had a few friends over as well on this day, all guys, and so the whole room full of straight guys went silent for a good couple minutes. We all just looked around at eachother, shrugged and said, "hey, more power to you" For me and others, it wasn't so much that he had been with both dudes and chicks, it was more about being with 9 different people in 14 days....i think we were more concerned with how inconsiderate it is to all those other people when it comes to not spreading an std or sti. The confusing aspect reared it's head when about a month after that confession, he was in a relationship with a girl. He would frequently bring her over and have her stay the night etc. She was very young and a very "good traditional Christian girl" who had very strict parents with strong, steadfast opinions... Since it seemed he was getting more serious with this girl, having met her parents and hearing her talk of them moving in together, as it happened, one day me and one of the roommates just casually asked him if he told her that he was bi. His response was interesting, abruptly he said, "well, first off, I don't live with women, and second, I'm straight." Me and the other roommate took a pause and looked at each other and just nodded, saying, "ok, if you say so." The following day we had a guy friend over who was openly bi and tried flirting with the bi roommate, not knowing he wasn't available. The roommate turned him down, saying he had a girlfriend and that even if he was single, the bi friend wasn't his type since he was straight. Later that night me and another roommate confronted him and asked to clarify if he was straight or bi. His answer was, "when I'm in a relationship with a girl, I am straight, but when I'm single I can be bi if I want" 🤷‍♂️
@kevinperezgranada4395
@kevinperezgranada4395 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your sexuality with multiple people while protecting yourself is not inconsiderate. Monogamy is not for everyone and that's okay.
@blisscustard
@blisscustard 4 ай бұрын
Bro is changing his sexuality according to the situation lmao. But on a serious note it seems like he is trying to hide himself from judgement of the society 😗
@liamrenzi
@liamrenzi 3 жыл бұрын
I can relate a lot to this as a guy who identifies as pansexual. The jokes and 'throw away' comments are justified through humour, which I can understand, but it doesn't help, nor support our mental health. Everyone always bangs on about how inclusive the LGBTQ+ community is, yet I have found it the complete opposite; 'you're too fem', 'ah sorry, not into rolls and fats', 'how are girls ever going to like you if you've been with guys' and so on. Complete bullshit. Take it in your stride and continue educating the world. Sick video's Joe (and Ryan) ✌🏼
@JustJRR
@JustJRR 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really sorry to hear this has been your experience 😔 really good to hear your perspectives as bi men in a relationship with one another. 💙💗💜
@JoshHitti
@JoshHitti 3 жыл бұрын
Like you said, a lot to unpack in this video. I've always enjoyed your content since you began making videos on the minimalist side, so it's cool to see the increased transparency over time. Cheers, man.
@jackthemlits
@jackthemlits 3 жыл бұрын
I can (somewhat) relate to this. I am bi and also asian (fully vietnamese to be specific) and it’s so sad to see how toxic our community is. I have a bunch of friends. We were talking one day and I was like “idk when I will ever get a gf haha.” And they said “oh you cant, you’re too gay for her” and it was frustrating bc it’s true I do have more of feminine side than masculine but I still identify as bi and they didn’t have to say “oh you’re too gay or too feminine to be in a relationship with a girl.” I felt frustrated and I just didn’t feel like talking anymore, like just because I like guys more than girls do not mean I am gay or will only ever like men or I “will pick a side”, that is just straight-up bi-erasure. And saying “white is superior” is so dumb. Like this is not 1860s babe, pls dont do that to yourself. And yes, I am only 16 years old so how I view myself might change once I discover more about myself, I am just sharing what I feel right now. Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk hahaha
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 2 жыл бұрын
you are super eloquent. at 16 you are barely there in the dating game anyway so things are bound to change , if you are a little worried about fem traits being slightly more dominant . You needn't , age usually cements masculinity IMO. give it a few years. Attraction is crazy at that age. You will probably find the type of woman and the type of guy you are attracted to have something in common. i knew at 16 i might be bi. and there was no youtube . it was hard . my gaydar is terrible. and i present entirely as straight. it took me well over a decade to get the art of approaching a guy the same way i approach women . with the difference is since i can't communicate gayness i am not believed and i have to prove.
@arnaudmarch788
@arnaudmarch788 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're experiencing what most girls experience on the daily, online and the streets. It's not especially gay men who are toxic, it's often masculinity and there is a lot of work to be done here. From my experience, I have felt much more toxicity in the straight community. It saddens me that you are experiencing so much racism on top of that. But it seems things are getting better and I have hope your generation is starting to get things right, by listening, by speaking out like you are doing, by embracing spectrums and complexity.
@tenzinchoezin3162
@tenzinchoezin3162 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you speaking on this topic. Some people are disgusting and rude to leave comments like that and you are not overreacting. I really like your channel on be less shitty!! Fighting!!
@darjon94
@darjon94 3 жыл бұрын
Those comments are so saddening. I was definitely sheltered in the sense that I knew how rife racism is particularly in our community, but I didn't realise how brazen and constant it was. Well done Joe for airing your thoughts so honestly and for being very subjective about it; I know if I were on the receiving end of that kind of hate I would feel really insecure and upset. Hopefully the more it is addressed and talked about the more those kinds of people will think twice before posting. I know you're keen to ensure this channel doesn't become a 'relationship vlog', but you two are honestly couple goals for me and for so many others I'm sure. It absolutely warms my heart. I personally would love to know more about both your stories' if you ever wanted to share them, as all I want is to find that kind of love that you can clearly see in each others' eyes. I've got a lot of trust issues and stuff due to negative experiences and a whole load of other issues in the community (maybe I'm always looking in the wrong places) which I know holds me back, but ultimately all I want is a man who looks at me the way Ryan looks at you. So yeah if you fancy posting some tips on how to find 'the one' who only has eyes for me, I'd be very open to that! haha. Love your channel Joe, keep doing you with all the honesty and positivity, let the haters hate x
@jbar_85
@jbar_85 3 жыл бұрын
It was very refreshing to hear someone tell it like it is. We’re supposedly an “inclusive” community, yet, we have the highest of judgment and discrimination…
@skylargreen7156
@skylargreen7156 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@shambhavis8457
@shambhavis8457 3 жыл бұрын
This is so pathetic :( I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this on a daily basis. Both of you are such talented individuals and you guys inspire me every day! 🥰 Both of you deserve all the love in the world!! Please know that we will always love and support you in anything you do ❤️
@freddy7534
@freddy7534 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bestie I haven’t even watched the video yet but from the thumbnail alone I first wanted to say how much you are loved and appreciated, you two are such a good looking couple and some people just can’t handle it. Always remember that haters are just projecting their insecurities onto you and they are probably miserable. Let’s just send them light and positive energy and hope they can heal.
@capucinebinet6814
@capucinebinet6814 Жыл бұрын
I recently discovered your channel and the subjects you talk about are so interesting, in a way that : by yourself, you wouldn’t think about some issues you discuss, and thank you so much for that. I never experienced being put in boxes by anyone but I realise how sometimes I want to do so with people, and your discussion help, I think, aware people of some behaviours that just shouldn’t happen in general
@Darkrai4294
@Darkrai4294 3 жыл бұрын
It’s true that lgbt+ members can be very forward. My lgbt+ students ALWAYS ask me directly about my sexuality when they see the pride flag in my class. Everyone else apparently spread rumors, so I guess I just can’t win.
@JustinLoving
@JustinLoving 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe people are so inept. I think you both are extremely handsome and great for each other. I love your content and keep up the good work.
@avadsouza
@avadsouza 3 жыл бұрын
So proud to be following you and your philosophy of living. This video means so much to me, love your content and I am inspired by it everyday. I am hoping people just learn how to be less shitty❤️.
@theafterglowavenger
@theafterglowavenger 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Crap! You are clearly a thoughtful person who seems to be very warm and caring. Thank you for sharing what you are comfortable with. I'm working on trying to make myself and my life better, and I find you to be a nice inspiration on this path! I hope that you continue to do you, and brush off the haters and pervs.
@imden8437
@imden8437 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe I'm Den From Malaysia, i really love every single of your content and it's really inspiring me become the best version of me and always be positive in any situation.
@jasesf7681
@jasesf7681 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time, energy and risk to address these important issues so frankly and openly. As a white(ish) guy who is 66 in a relationship with a 20 year old asian guy-- you can imagine the assumptions and assertions people make about us and our motivations. Their small minds can't see the substantial value of our relationships. To me the most resonant comment in your video is when Ryan asks "how many drugs was I addicted to when we met?" It reminds me that love (of all kinds, in all ways) has the power to redeem. My BF is a blessing in my life and it sounds like you, Joe, are a blessing in Ryan's. Keep caring for each other and you will triumph!
@caughtcrjfever2107
@caughtcrjfever2107 2 жыл бұрын
Are you 66 years old or 6ft 6 inches???
@wehojm7320
@wehojm7320 3 жыл бұрын
Being on social media and a producer of content is a double edge sword. As like most people I tune in to see what you're up to and hear what you have to say on any given subject. This installment covered some real hot botton topics like racial stereotypes, bisexuality, discrimination within the gay community and fetishization of non-whites, As an gay Asian man I've experienced all of these except the issues of being bisexual. It saddens and angers me that some people feel that they can come at you with so much negativity. That's the double edge sword part. Don't be deterred. Stay the course and continue what you are doing in your life. As they say the haters will hate and you can't do anything about that. Keep the positivity and carry on. Continued good luck and take care of each other.
@ProjectFelix
@ProjectFelix 3 жыл бұрын
I have a difficult time fitting into the LGBTQ+ community… Part of it is social anxiety so not easy to put myself out there… the other is the community at times seems very judge mental unless you fit a certain box, but I know this is not the entire community, but enough to scare someone with social anxiety away… Also not feeling fully accepted by everyone in my own family just keeps be further isolated from the community… But yeah, I see where you are coming from and I am sure as a POC I will eventually need to face those same things once I start dating down the road. Thank you for sharing your experience and I really hope everyone can be less shitty and be more supportive of each other. Help each other grow.
@kevinolivero2739
@kevinolivero2739 3 жыл бұрын
Joe send good vibes 4 u and Ryan. Be happy and yourself w your relationship. Always shine dude.
@quinn3585
@quinn3585 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that these people take the time to comment these dumb remarks is just sad. like they should spend their time working on themselves not trying to bring other people down. and it doesn’t even make sense. people love who they want to love regardless of looks( u are very attractive tho) and others should mind their own business.
@Sparen66
@Sparen66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting all that out here for us! A lot to think about, process, and digest. Thank you again.
@littlewhims
@littlewhims 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, love you guys and hope the comments don’t get to you. I respect that you don’t want to show too much of your relationship online and I think that’s a healthy perspective to have. You two have your own lives together and we don’t need to know every aspect of it. I started watching you for your be less shitty content, it’s just a bonus that I get to see Jasper and Ryan in those videos. Also the fact that you keep trying to get Ryan to say the outro and Ryan stubbornly refuses to makes me laugh every time. 😊
@wimvan362
@wimvan362 3 жыл бұрын
Ey Joe and Ryan, what a honest video! Good you bring it up. Just visiting your video’s because of your content. I am not suprised about the reactions on your live with Ryan, but it is so wrong and cheap. Hope you guys will continue with your content ( Ryan too, love his videos about meals) 👍🏻🤗❤️🇾🇪
@Tina-dg3tq
@Tina-dg3tq 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, I can't believe you're getting comments like these, that's absolutely disgusting! You're definitely not overreacting in addressing this, especially when you have repeatedly said this is not a dating channel. At the end of the day I think we should focus less on labels and more on well, being less shitty
@ensign17
@ensign17 2 жыл бұрын
You are speaking the truth!!!! People are a bunch of haters and they are jealous on what you have. I am really happy you are speaking on topics like this. We have soo many people so hate our community but why are we sooo cruel to each other.
@johnbowman5186
@johnbowman5186 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this very important content! You are both excellent role models, and by sharing your experiences and reflections will encourage others to think, learn and live happier, healthier lives also. Wishing you guys all the best and looking forward to following your stories going forward.
@popelgruner595
@popelgruner595 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know that's only me but I love the idea that you are two bi men living in a gay relationship. I'd like that too for myself sometime in the future...
@robmarth2226
@robmarth2226 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up on this Joe, I really think that some of our community are over sexualized everything.
@dojamatt4942
@dojamatt4942 2 жыл бұрын
You know what Joe, you upload absolutely whatever you want. This is your channel and you’re the boss. Also your content is amazing and is just so refreshing, I definitely like channels revolving around relationships but it’s certainly a breath of fresh air to see a channel that’s not all about it for once Also I come from an Arabic background and i think you spoke about the differences in cultures very well. Needs to be addressed more
@miguellehman6951
@miguellehman6951 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe...firstly love your new hair color and nice shorts..sorry to hear of those racist comments..ignorant people. We are what we are and your lovely nature and Ryan's shows explicitly in your vlogs. Keep up the great positive commentary and jasper is a special member of your family. Lots of love to the 3 of you xxxxxx
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