Its satisfying to see greedy Live Service games spinning their tires in the mud going nowhere

Ya blizzard, pve just doesn’t keep players interested *cough*HELLDIVERS 2 *cough*

25$ skin or 25$ of indie games.

Overwatch 2 is sure as hell not trying. Matter of fact, It not only dug its own grave, but also managed to throw the last shovel of dirt over itself.

all this clown leadership with no faith in PvE must be so confused by the success of Helldivers 🤣🤣🤣

I can't even go back to Overwatch 1! You know the game that I paid for!

"you no longer need to unlock new heroes" how did it take them THIS LONG to realize that was a bad idea from the get go

Seeing how poorly Blizzard handled how we reacted towards the PvE shows how well they will handle any other reaction

Or I could just play OW1... oh wait, they took it away because they didn't want to compete with their own game because they knew they'd lose.

I quit overwatch when OW2 came out, I hated the fact they were paywalling heroes. They fixed that with season 10 but I've moved on so much it'd be impossible to come back.

"PVE won't keep players in, PVP and competitive with microtransaction is the way, why our player count is lower than the previous game?" "So... our AA game, Helldivers 2, just released, is PVE only but I hope you like it, we worked really hard on--- HOLY SHI- THAT'S ALOT OF PEOPLE!"

One of the headlines for their upcoming updates being "you'll be able to play the heroes the update centers around without giving us more money" is so fucking funny but sad at the same time

2500 hours in 1, had every cosmetic, only spent 2 weeks in 2. I hated everything about it immediately. To me, the best part of Overwatch was when Blizzard wasn't paying attention. Years of just getting excited every event for all the new cosmetics, knowing all I had to do was play the game I loved to get them. RIP OW, I won't forget.

Activision Blizzard being like "Nobody wants PvE content" only to have Helldivers 2 be as popular as it is is probably one of the best things that I've seen all year.

The problem with price anchoring is that the skins aren't worth $5, never mind $12. $20 legendaries are so ridiculous that they _still_ make loot boxes look good. Functionally, you'd get two to three legendaries from $20 of loot boxes. You're paying triple now purely for the premium of being able to choose exactly what you want, except you got coins before and could regularly choose whatever you want anyway.

Price go up, content go down.

Man, I was never a huge fan of Overwatch, but I can only imagine how angry the handling of the IP would make me if I was.

They should have stuck with their original plan for adding a robust amount of PvE content!

Make the game people wanted for overwatch 2 or shut it down. Imagine losing any good will you would have got with the mythic skin thing with the 2 season nonsense. And I will not applaud them for heroes being unlocked how they always should have.

540 to 600 coins!? Golly gee, this is so swell! This 100% makes up for all the disappointment surrounding Overwatch 2! For sure!

Blizzard promised a fleshed-out pve mode and later (after having taken the money off the gullible) went back on that. That people still stick around can only be explained by sunk cost fallacy and battered wife syndrome.

Imagine if they used all that devtime making the PVE mode they promised instead of predatory microtransactions. I love that Helldivers is blowing that shitty business model out of the water. Blizz can't crumble any faster

God… when i was younger, I wanted to work for Blizzard. Now, they disgust me so much that, despite the fact that I miss some of the games I used to play from them, I will NEVER touch a game by this company again. I feel bad for the actual good devs that have a genuine love for the players, but EVERYTHING their higher ups do is not worth spending a single penny on their games. I hope more Blizzard devs find relief and jump ship.

Customers are limited resources and if you bleed them too hard they stop paying and they stop playing Like bruh Even mobage companies understand this for a fact

Literally uninstalled it yesterday. I am just so tired of being lied to and I just do not care anymore.

These greedy scumbags are selling the skin collection for like 70+ dollars. That is the price of BALDURS GATE 3. Let that sink in. DISGUSTED. /spit OR i could buy helldivers 2 AND another game. Yikes.

The moment in game purchases reach the coast of whole ass games, I check out.

Did you see all that "Blizzard quality" in D4? I seem to remember it lacked basic ARPG features like a loot filter and a place to put that loot.

PirateSoftware pointed out that the Oblivion horse armor made more money than the sales of Starcraft 2. Nothing has changed.

Pretty sure the PVE didn't do well because it wasn't the originally promised version of it. The whole justification to have a 2 after Overwatch was that original PVE that was announced. But as soon as they said "we're not going to do that original promise" all the hype went out the door. People that were waiting for it, or were doing the "Just gotta get to the PVE, things will get better then" felt betrayed, lied to, and felt like what was the point of killing the original Overwatch if they were just gonna quit

Overwatch 2 is store with a game attached to it 😢

Maintenance mode is on its way baby

No shit... people didn't want their story to be drip fed through seasons and dlc's, people wanted that epic grand single player/coop campaign that was supposed to make this a proper sequel. I can't tell you how many times I've heard so many people say "I don't like Overwatch but I love those characters and their art, I wish they where in a different game."

Maybe they should have stuck to their original promises with PvE instead of some uninspired cash grab.

They had an opportunity to rope me in with an actual story mode but they canned that for that thing a few months back

Shutting it down completely and rebuilding it from the ground floor is really the only way to fix this mess. Better yet, have Microsoft give the IP to someone else.

The Faye and Spike skins look worse than the Netflix ones, holy hell

Shout out to the pay pigs keeping the game afloat for the multi million dollar company

Seeing games sink massive investment into poorly planned projects then laying off the workers is like, cart before the horse again, boys? Management is bloated and incompetent.

They lost me when they dumped PVE.

To sum up the video, Blizzard & their overlords fundamentally doesnt listen to their audience, understand game/story design, understand marketing, and understand who their audience is.

Trying. Flailing.

"100 million players". LOL... who wants to bet they are still counting me even though I uninstalled the game a year ago.

It's like that Homer quote: "I don't understand Marge was so happy when I made those promises, what happened?" Lol, them quietly cancelling and removing funding from their promises time and time again is just devastating for consumers trust in their new plans. Without any confidence in their plans why should we spend money on their game if we don't belive it will get any of the further development they promise.

18 month for 3 missions sounds crazy...

They did ed so dirty a lot of the reason why she was one of my favorites along with the dog was her mannerisms and she obviously was not fan service like Faye was

Charging 25 dollars per skin is exorbitant. That price would be more suitable for the cost of the entire bundle.

I heard Cowboy Bebop skins were in he game, but they all look horible except for Feye

I remember when they were talking about how dungeons in D4 were being revieewed and judged. Essentially they would end up throwing out probably 90% of what they made. Everyone on the team was making their own dungeon, then reviewing each other's dungeon, then throwing out most of them. That must be really crushing to have your work constantly being rejected and essentially wasted. It also means that you either conform to what the group decides passes or you keep getting your stuff rejected... I wouldn't be surprised if they need these huge team numbers because this is how everything over there works. A ton of stuff being created individually and then thrown out... A ton of people not adding value and likely just sitting back churning out stuff that they know won't matter. But they keep hitting their KPIs, so they're technically fine.

The biggest reason the overwatch devs struggle to get anything done is shareholders. The stock market is our very own crafted malevolent god.

Me: These are all changes in the right direction. Its not perfect, but it shows some ownership. Blizzard: Great! So play our game! Me: No, I don't trust you.

nothing short of completely removing all monetization practices added in OW2 is going to make me give a single fuck about overwatch

I'm at that point where if a game has a way to spend more on the game, I'm out. Doesn't matter what they're selling, I'm out.

watch them not give you enough mythic prisms each season to make you either play for more than one season, or buy them directly because they were so generous and holy to grace you with the opportunity of buying whatever skin you want (but of course exceptions apply)

Overwatch Classic announcement at Blizzcon 2024 is inevitable.

It's funny. I lost interest in Overwatch about one year after release. But I get less interested every new update. Incredible how they manage to make things worse or at least change it from bad to bad but different.

We fucked up Please give us more money. No thank you.

If Blizzard wanted money. Maybe Blizzard should have made more... game? Cutting content and selling skins is a great way to gut your IP and entire studio brand.

i chose battleborn over overwatch back in the day, and I still stand by that decision.

Was anyone even surprised? Disappointment is what you get when you promise people an amazing experience, convince them them they need the "sequel" it's supposed to come in, then cancel the experience, then tell them they'll still get SOMETHING, then sell them the dregs at 5 bucks a mission. In any other industry, they would've been sued out of business. It would be actually illegal. Imagine if Audi announced the new flying car. They give a huge announcement about it, show you footage of the various components and how they work together, hype you up. Then, 5 years of silence. Then they sell you the car, but they tell you it's not flying YET. The system needs a little more polish, they say. But here's the car, that'll be full price thank you. Then, a year later, they announce that the flying feature was a bit too ambitious. The math isn't mathing anymore. But what they CAN do is adjust the components to make the car lighter instead, saving you gasoline. For a monthly sub. And when it comes out, it turns out the system guzzles a lot of power which increases fuel usage, so the actual savings is tiny. Blizzard rightfully owes anyone who spent anything on or in Overwatch 2 a full refund. They're not going to get one, of course, but that's what should be happening. Nice of them to dial back some of the garbage changes to monetization they introduced instead of the box price and cosmetic shop, but that's not going to magically create the game system they sold the "sequel" on.

Overwatch 2 PvE : Recancelled

Ah the old classic of releasing something that’s already a disappointment compared to what was promised and when it inevitably doesn’t sell gangbusters, declare the numbers prove that players don’t want that type of content, regardless of the quality of said release.

You can taste the desperation. They are seeing less players play the game and they are panicked and desperate trying anything to get people to stay and pay. This is them tweaking various variables and seeing what the retention rate and monetization rate is going to be.

Phrase of the day “ and that is why we live in a very in-shit-ified nightmare hell scape” - Michael

Every year I am reminded that I am an old kermudgen stuck in the early 00s being utterly disgusted by practices in the gaming space that have basically become industry norms for its players. Either that or the mindset of multiplayer/live-service enjoyers is so alien to me that I can't comprehend it.

I am impressed they don't charge you money to uninstall the game.

- Where IS matt?!

It took 8 years, millions of dollars, and over 400 employees… but we finally got there. We finally have Overwatch 1 with less players and more currencies!!!!

You get what you deserve and im sorry but Overwatch has peaked, it will never grow back. Its in its half life phase as the player count tapers off.

What Blizzard has done with Overwatch 2 is so sad. I agree - as a 1st person shooter PvP, Overwatch 2 is still fun to play casually. As a world, culture, lore, and broader story - so sad to see it go because of stupidity and greed at Blizzard. The OW 1 hero cinematics - Reinhardt, Bastion, and Hanzo/Genji most of all - along with the OW 2 cinematic were some of Blizzard's best cinematics. Emotional, heroic, inspiring, telling a deep story as to why you should get involved with that character and the world they're in. And they tossed it aside for potential money that, now, they won't make either way because they lied to their customers lol. Dumb leadership. Just dumb. And yes - it's shocking every single time to think about how little Blizzard gets done with how many resources and people it has. It seems like 80% of what they do is just focus on selling skins nowadays, so you wonder what the heck everyone else is doing there.

Charging people... For missions? Rrriiiiiiight.

Why is Ein a hamster instead of a Corgi!?

Funny thing is that Blizzard could've just kept Overwatch 1 as it was and just changed it so you can buy the currency you get from dupe items from the loot boxes, stop allowing people to buy lootboxes directly and you are pretty much set for monetization. After that, you are just doing run things normally and people would've been fine in my opinion. Then the development of Overwatch 2 could just be a pure PVE game developed by a completely different team and not tied to the original Overwatch at all. Yeah, it's funny I see this update and I'm thinking, 'Good on you Blizzard for finally doing the right thing. Why did it take you so long?' Honestly, it's crap like this that gets me thinking, this is why Blizzard got all of those layoffs, the Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4 teams are just inefficient as hell.

I'd love to have been in the meeting where they tell the Cowboy Bebop people they want to use their main character as a skin for the sexual harassment cowboy.

Battleborn had insane character designs, the game was really funny too. I mean, where else can you play an anthromorphised mushroom ninja with kunai, or a disabled mad scientist grandpa on a flying chair, or as decepticon, all in one game? It also had a solid story campaign, and again, the humor was genuinely funny in that game. The only, and the main issue Battleborne had is trying to compete with Overwatch, and the game got much hate because of that, but it was really good.

19:45 reminds of southpark guys talked about in their documentary called '7 days to air' when Matt talked about a finished episode where he could spend more time polishing the script he could potentially make it slightly funnier but it not worth since it could cause an endless cycle loop or something like that. Anyways that mentally stuck with me whenever i do something creative related where i give myself a deadline, whether i meant my deadline or not and whatever my work end up good or not is whatever at that point, I just moved on learn from whatever i did.

Once I can find a wfh customer service gig I can work 2 days a week (SAH Dad here) I do plan to subscribe when I can. You guys have been the best, been watching you for like 8 years at this point I'm pretty sure. 😊

I think this PvE vs PvP dichotomy the overwatch management went into is complete BS, PvE overwatch isn't competing in players with PvP overwatch, it's competing in players with other PvE titles, some of which have great narratives and focus on those narratives, while the PvE offering for overwatch was always "we'll give you some event missions" in OW1 to "we'll make a PvE mode, but not really" before OW2 launched and then "oh, we've made a PvE mode that has 3 MISSIONS!!!". No audience for the PvE mode was expected when they made it clear that it wasn't the focus by endlessly delaying it and eventually cancelling it, releasing 3 missions for 15 dollars and then calling it a failure is very funny because they set it up for failure by driving the PvE playerbase out of the game before it even released.

I always like your videos but I wish that you would use the youtube chapters feature to make content easier to watch/rewatch.

90s Porsche design was so good and the 80s pop up lights.

The fact that even siege is throwing shade at OW is beyond cathartic.

That "100 million players" number also includes my (and many others') account that I haven't played on in a year. I'm betting their playerbase is more like 20 million.

Man. I miss the days of OW1. I had such great times with friends. I occasionally want to try out OW2 just to relive some of that nostalgia, but the effort of clearing storage space for it is just not worth it.

Thanks 4 the longer video. Really enjoyed it.

Different people work differently and sometimes a project can be small enough it doesn't need to be monitored, it's done when it's done. But we're already behind schedule for PvE missions and it's already been downscaled, nows a good time to establish time set goals. Say every few months a key feature is done that applies to all projects, or complete one character's missions and story in 4 months, if you're behind it needs to get rushed, set a deadline and keep to it as all other goals move towards it. When a new game is in development but not a hard promise then you can worry about "Blizzard Quality" "It's done when it's done", but when the game is shipped and you're on the live service model you need Goals. Working on a big project aimlessly can get bogged down, understandable, but surely the higher ups know how to break that and get things moving, if they do anything productive at the company it's keeping a time table for the bigger picture.

Some of the Cowboy Bebop Skins seem like they may even be somewhat broken because they are so far removed from their original class model that it could be hard for players to instantly know what the other player is from a distance.

I stopped caring about Blizzard around the time when SC2 came out, 3 months later after buying the game they said my cd was invalid even though i bought the game the same day it came out.

Remember these are the same people who go onto the blizzcon stage with a big smile to shout out loud that overwatch has had a great year, after cancelling the PVE mode.

Someone at Blizzard doesn't know how to math. Because with 8 week seasons and 60 coins per week, we got 480 not 540, so it's actually 120 additional coins per season.

Blizzard made Overwatch 2 on the Kickstarter method. Promise a bunch of stuf up front, get everyone's money an then deliver on a portion of it, years late, and simply shrug at the rest.

Any AAA studio can pull a bait-n-switch, but only Blizzard has the balls to try a switch-n-bait.

Such a shame, OW could be a great game, but alas...blizzard *facepalm*

im not coming back ever... we already find the perfect 5v5 for our friends group, the new old school CS2 and the shiny Vibrant Valorant. and we loving helldiver 2 for its story and theme , and buying a BP or warbond is suprizing feels good, knowing you "really" support the dev and get my money worth

Hey, Battleborn had great characters, arguably better than OW. It had cool PvE, too. On release.

I like how you peppered in those lines absolutely slathered in sarcasm. Rather refreshing and helps make news at least a bit more tolerable.

They absolutely had the money and resources to deliver the first time. It’s baffling how greedy the higher ups are.

15:00 Battleborn had actually pretty good character design(look up ISIC gameplay for instance), only no one played it,so that didn't matter.

Ah, yes, Cowboy Beepbop. As one of the few players that actually played Battleborn before it died, I actually liked it more than Overwatch, but I know I'm in the minority on that opinion.

How is this a surprise? We knew that was the case once we saw OW "2" and how it was nothing but paywalls. The only reason that one "mission pack" was released is because they had some assets ready from when PVE was still happening. Now that we a all know it was just scam, flip the switch and revert it back to Overwatch 1.

Blizzard could offer me a 4-some with Mei Mercy and Brigette and I still wouldn't play overwatch 2. There's only so many lies and slimey schemes you can attempt before I'm just done with you forever.