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As a free game, Overwatch 2 is not bad. The problems are just all the broken promises, the bad monetization and the fact that it has a limited lifespan because you can't add characters or maps forever.

For the love of everything; it's not a matter of HOW MANY DEVS YOU HAVE it's how you use them.

Losing 6v6 hit casual play with friends harder than expected. My group started to break apart when the 6th person was left out

it's hard to describe how much I miss logging into Overwatch in the Summer of 2016, playing the whole night, Overwatch was THE game to start my gaming obsession, and it's even harder to watch what is happening to my beloved. really, really sad.

As a wise man once said: "It's a shame that one of the best video games ever made is developed by one of the worst companies."

The worst part about all of it is that they failed to develop Overwatch as a brand. It was the biggest game in the world for a time. It could have been the next big franchise like Call of duty, Fortnite, Star Wars, Marvel, etc. They should have been making tv shows, movies, more comics, and other types of games within the universe. The truth is, even if they never messed up the pve and pvp, Overwatch would have eventually regressed to just another popular game like Apex. For a company so greedy to not try to use the IP for other projects and mediums is just crazy and shows their incompetence.

I genuinely miss 6v6. Playing off of another tank was the reason i enjoyed the game.

"Remember when the first Overwatch came out?" *proceeds to play a gameplay footage of Wrecking Ball 😐

They killed 2 games for this one. And killed it in a year… that is so impressive.

It launched with a clear game philosophy and had passion behind it. OW2 was a shop update that also lost its game philosophy.

Corporate greed has ruined our AAA titles. I sometimes imagine how great masterpieces they could produce with all those resources that they have, but most of them just want to maximize profits :(

It seems like I'm the only person who hated most of the PVP changes they made. Removing a tank made it feel really weird, especially for those of us that were actually good at rallying a team to work together. They took a game that was designed around teamwork (but didn't always work out that way) to a weird frankenstein that wasn't great for any style of play.

i think the worst part about the pve is that they eventually released something akin to story missions... but you have to pay for it. in a game that already has a battlepass and where the **overwhelming** majority of cosmetics require you to spend money and cannot be earned through gameplay

This game had EVERYTHING to be along with LoL, CS:GO, Fortnite and Valorant today, Blizzard literally had a golden sheep that they killed in favor of a quick cash through their shitty monetization priority and poor management. Seriously i've never seen a more incompetent company in gaming history.

Folks often wonder how TF2 has managed to outlive so many games like Overwatch, and I believe a big part of it is that TF2 is a fundamentally casual experience. Any modern hero shooter that releases nowadays is made with top-tier esports in mind, which makes it less accessible to the average player.

"You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? ... Back to me" - Team Fortress 2

It's insane that these companies don't realize that good will = good money. These people are so dumb.

Something additional to note about the cancellation of PvE (which was supposedly the very reason for a sequel): internally Blizzard knew as early as the end of 2019 that they wouldn't deliver on the promises they've made but still decided to launch OW2 without breaking the news to the public until MONTHS later. ActivisionBlizzard has years upon years of trust to build back up after they boot that avatar of greed Bobby Kotick out. I'll give them a decade to make no anti-consumer practises before trusting any promise they make, and I know I am not the only one. And sadly, we all know that is not happening.

Great video, as a 5000 hour OW player that left the game in S2 of OW2 you captured basically every gripe I had with Blizzard

Overwatch 2 fixed nothing.

My biggest gripe is that in Overwatch 1, I felt smart. In Overwatch 2, I only feel lucky.

I think my issue with OW2 is due to the fact it overwritten OW1. Because it was a fully priced retail game at the time, we could get cosmetics at our leasure. Yes it had a lot box system in place, but any items you missed that year was going to come back the next year. Now if we want anything, we need to fork over the cash. This maybe fine with newer players, but the veteran players are the ones who get screwed over.

The drop to 5v5, and caps on roles really bothered me. Sure not all comps are viable, but it was engaging to try with so many combinations. Now it feels forced and dry.

lets just politely disagree whether push is better than assault

When the game switched to 5v5 it just made it to fast paced and sweaty in my opinion, if you play tank you just get melted if your supports aren’t constantly healing you. Even in casual modes it feels like every match people are playing like their lives depend on it. I hate the battle pass system as well, I honestly think the loot boxes in the first game was pretty fair especially compared to what’s in place now.

For me it was the 5v5 switch. Having only one tank, their skill level largely determines a win or a loss, which sucks.

I miss the old 6v6 not roles. As a Rein/lucio main, it meant I was often on the winning side, and people seemed to appreciate when one of the first to lock in was a healer.

I was just entering high school when Overwatch released. The day I finally managed to get a graphics card to make my dad's old PC capable of playing games, and finally managed to buy the game that had been occupying my thoughts for months upon months, I could barely manage to sleep. It was a feeling of pure, unbridled excitement that I'd finally get to play this game I'd been obsessed with for so long. And now, I haven't touched it in years. A small collection of Reinhardt merch and art is the only indication it ever meant anything to me at all. I miss the game I fell in love with, I miss the time I spent with my friends goofing around in quick play. It's always heartbreaking to think about this game.

couldnt agree more. I personally love and adore overwatch for the character design and story that they have put so much effort in for so many years. However, it is absolutly crushing how Blizzard can take something so precious and amazing and crush it with a heart beat. they really had a gem, no, gold mine in their hands and they just destroyed it :(

Did you make your money? Blizzard: Yes… What did it cost? Blizzard: Everything…

I spent so much time in this game. Some coworkers played is how I got into it. One of their friends was a real decent DPS. One coworker was a pretty good tank. So I spent a lot of hours as Lucio. It's insane how much that has affected my Cyberpunk gameplay. With the aid dashes and movement perks, it can feel very similar. I am not original in saying this, but if they did a relatively fleshed out PVE campaign, I would completely go back to playing.

For me, making doomfist a tank and removing all his movement and the fact that tanks are just stronger than everyone else due to only being 1 of them, means that in quickplay the winner is decided by which teams has more people wanting to play boring tanks. I was really enjoying OW1 too even without any changes before OW2 came out just playing quickplay and playing a lot of doomfist, but this totally killed it for me.

Tbh I used to play this game daily, back when it was 6v6. I was so proud to work for new skins and hone my skills with different characters. In my opinion, they never should have moved to 5v5. It relies way too much on every player knowing their character in and out, as well as obsessing over positioning. These factors of course were still important in 6v6, but not everyone playing the game is trying to emulate a professional game of OW like how 5v5 does

Overwatch 2: We changed from 6v6 to 5v5 because it makes it easier to follow. TF2: 16v16 not enough? Try 50v50! (100 player update from July 2023 for anyone who doesn't follow TF2 news)

OW2 was only a store update. The devs even knew the promised PvE wasn't going to happen before release, but the PvE was still promoted as the big new feature as to why OW2 was happening. They hyped people on that, where some people bought the pre-order Watchpoint stuff. It was all dishonest and lies for $$$ to milk players further on pre-orders, battlepass, and skins for a game that was largely the same. Greed killed the game.

It's the company for me. Their monetisation schemes, disregard for their customers, leadership. I am not giving this company any money.

My biggest issue with OW 2 is that like with every sequel, I can't stop comparing it to its predecessor. And when I compare OW2 to OW1 I find OW1 to be superior in almost every way. I cannot be bothered wit OW2. They lost me and what really did it for me, was the switch to 5v5. 6v6 in 2-2-2 role lock was the most balanced version of the game IMO.

Something I was told that people found to be a big issue was we bought overwatch 1 with our own money and now we can’t actually play the game we paid for. The massive update removed overwatch 1 so we can’t even go back and play it anymore like you can with other franchises. I bought overwatch 1 and I want to play it but that was taken from me and replaced with an awful game. From 2016 I never went a 2 weeks without playing overwatch for at least 1-2 hours and now I haven’t touched the game in over a year

Scummy business practice aside, the shift to 5v5 was another big reason why I left the game. I spent hours upon hours learning and playing offtank only for them to delete the role entirely. The friend that I played OW with the most was a tank main too so losing my ability to duo tank with him was a pretty big hit to morale ngl

I actually really miss the Lootboxes, the new battle pass and everything really kills it for me, I'm happy that lower ranked players can now join higher rank so I can play with my friends but now the game is so bad that they won't play and I really don't want to either

I love Overwatch 1. It felt new, interesting, different. Had some of my best gaming memories on that game.

All my friends and myself dropped the game pretty quickly after Blizz bailed in the promise of PvE

Getting rid of 6 v 6 ruined the game because even if your team was unbalanced and you lost you still had time to try and learn new characters. After years not playing I gave 2 a go when it first came out and the change to 5 v 5 made the game so competitive I could only use my long term mains and couldn't even attempt to learn how to play new characters that had been added since the last time I played. Playing casually with not much stress to play as my main or meta tactics was what I loved about the game. I get changing it made competive play more balanced but it completely ruined the game for me.. played 2 for two weeks then uninstalled.

Let's also not forget that some of the PvE missions they added were almost entirely UNCHANGED from the demos shown to content creators in 2019, with the ONLY real difference being that the original missions had items.

You are missing a lot though. The players don't love the game. The 5v5 model ultimately destroyed the strategic aspect of the game that made it so great. Queue times are still garbage. The solo-tank experience is awful, and the support power creep has made a lot of characters that worked fine in overwatch 1 feel like crap. The team has committed to reworking a lot of heroes post-launch just to make them perform better in 5v5, killing the identity of these once-loved heroes. There so, so much more wrong with this game that dedicated players like myself have been robbed of. I'd rather play Overwatch 1 and... I can't!!!

In my opinion the biggest issue is the new community (literal kids) who seem defend the game no matter what, I see “it’s a free game what do you expect” “your just mad it’s not ow1” “who was going to play pve anyway” and I think they fundamentally misunderstood how blizzard literally committed fraud in an attempt to switch to free to play money maker because they’d made all there money from ow1 anyway

I still remember why I quit and that's due to the scorched earth balancing they did with first hero stacking and later role lock. Both of them were cases of the Dev team being wholly unwilling to actually balance the game and instead choosing to take away a mechanic to try and reach their ideal balance state. I've still kept up with some aspects of the game afterwards but the fact their solution to no one playing tanks was to just remove one of the 2 slots for tanks shows they're still in favor of using blunt force balance where they just remove aspects of the game to suit their whimsy. No dev team should just delete core mechanics of a game as a means of adjusting balance.

I just looked at the game after having not touched it since 2020. And I'm thoroughly unimpressed. 4 years and all that's new here is a couple skins per character, a few new characters, a new mode, and a store front. What where they doing this whole time

I think 2/2/2 was one of the best things they’ve done but the 5v5 was a terrible idea in my opinion

I've said it once and I'll say it again; Overwatch 2 never should have happened

Missing two tanks in 6v6 is why I stopped playing. I got into it playing with friends doing a Rein/Zarya or Rein/Hog duo and was really bummed when I couldn't do that anymore. I mained Tracer for most of my time playing and loved the aspect of diving when I learned about it. The part that made me quit was when I learned how to play Winston and realized how much more fun I would have had if I could have played a dedicated dive tank instead of leaving my team in the dust since if your tank is dead the team is dead or vice versa. I just felt sad at that point and didn't feel that the new style of play was how I wanted to play the game. I'd gladly play it again if they offered a 6v6 option in the arcade mode like they do for no limits

My perspective as a new "player" : OW is kind of annoying to be honest. The Tank, Heal and DPS balancing is completely broken, a tank killing a DPS in one combo is just stupid and healing is too important in this game (it might just be my personal taste). The fact that you HAVE to switch character is ridiculous as a new player trying to learn how the game works. And learning the map is a nightmare without mini maps (I don't even want to know where the enemy is, I just want to know where to go). Right now my experience playing this game as a noob is finding myself fighting against people that seem to already know the game very well and loosing without really learning anything. Every time I try to play this game I can see the potential it has, but I just can't find the motivation to learn 30+ characters and maps without any in game help. Even if I did all that, I already know that this game is completely unbalanced and it will very quickly become frustrating to play. If there was a coop campaign I think I would play it, but until then I'd rather play a game that won't make me feel like shit and won't need me to spend 100h to learn.

I don't know if I'd consider making the TTK shorter, changing to 5v5, and introducing Push should be considered part of "The Good".

Everything went wrong. They reap what they sow, and what they've sewn is incompetence.

Well made. No surprises but it's nice to see it all compiled in an easy to follow video. I'm one of the many that quit OW2 after 2000 hours of play-time. My only issue was the removal of the loot boxes. With no incentive to earn skins, there was no need to keep going.

Having new characters behind a pay wall works if the game is already popping off, but when it's the only reason for players to come back to your game, it just makes a massive barrier that kills all the hype the second you launch the game again.

As a new player who started recently ow2. Balancing issues and over reliance on counter picking (ofc thats not everything but seems like everyone has that mentality which makes it harder for me to play a certain character) which rewards bandaid solution far more than long term growth puts me off.

It’s amazing to see a game that made me miss the original loot box system.

Uhh 1 less tank 1 less player and no cp2 are BAD changes. The worst ones.

Great Video! I played OW from the day it released all the way to OW2. And even through the controversies that came as they were announcing major changes with OW2 I remained optomistic for the future of the game. Once I got into OW2 I was incredibly disheartened though. The gameplay had been significantly changed by both the hero overhauls and the switch from 6v6 to 5v5. Matches felt more like I was playing team-death match rather than the coordinated team game I was used to. At first I decided that it was probably in part due to a lot of new players coming in and not understanding the game as well yet. But not long after I came to the realization. It isn't because of new players or MMR being off. The game now incentivized playing like this. While I had played every role my main had always been tank. And while they promised us that "tank would be more powerful" now that we only had one. I don't think we fully understood what they meant by that until they released the game. On one hand the stats and balance favored tanks, making them honestly feel really oppressive and OP to DPS and supports. But on the flip side of that, they greatly reduced the teamwork and coordination that made tank strong before. That coordination and strategy is what made tank fun in OW1. We (the tank players), thought of that aspect when we were told we would be stronger. What we got instead was gameplay where the tank on either team is like a mini-boss and everyone else is just scrambling around them trying to get a kill at which point one team wins. It honestly sucked all the fun out of it. I think this major switch in how the game felt is the leading factor of what has pushed out me, and practically everyone I knew in the game. (I used to run a league for OW1, so when I say people I know from the game, I am talking about a couple hundred.) I honestly have a hard time understanding the dev team's vision of the game now. I mean they seem to want to push the gameplay to feel more like some kind of screwed-up version of Valorant. But why would they want to do that? Hasn't Blizzard learned that they can only survive in markets that they take control of first and are established? This is not the first time they have tried to compete with another franchise and not even the first time trying it against Riot. And based off the failures they hit every time in the past you would think they would have learned. (i.e. Heroes of the storm). But no, here we are again, this time they are taking something unique in Gameplay, requiring more teamwork and coordination than any other game, and they have been watering it down and molding it closer to something like Valorant. Well sorry to break it to Blizzard but Riot will win that fight. And if anything the OW1 players who became disheartened by the changes are just going to go to Valorant because they have no other option. I mean why stay in OW2 if it is going to feel like a knockoff version anyway? That is the trend we have already seen with content creators, Esport players, and finally the general player base.

The problem is blizzard knows they can shovel out anything to new players because they will never know how much content was removed from OW1. They don’t see how much blizzard took away from this game so anything blizzard does in their eyes is good or better. But for players who stuck around since 2016 it just feels like the game we fell in love with is gone forever. Older players expectations are much higher because we’ve seen a game that can do better. New players just accept what is because they don’t have a reference to anything different. I think that’s the real tragedy of Overwatch.

My main issue is they straight up lied about what was going to happen with overwatch 1. I remember clearly they had said the games were going to run side by side with overwatch 2 just including story content. But instead they updated overwatch 1 into 2. The reason this is my biggest issue is that I essentially paid full price for a free to play game and I can no longer unlock cosmetics like I used to for the game I PAID FOR

Great Video. It's really structured well and goes over the major aspects that presented themselves over the course of time. I was wondering whether or not we'd have some updates on the game, as I have not checked OW2 ever since the announcement that PVE content was canceled/paywalled. It's sad to see the demise as I would call it, that befell one of the games that was near and dear to most of my friends, myself included.

Around Kotick's departure from Activision, there were very lout talks about new heroes not being put on the battle pass anymore. There are also numerous reports that demands for OW2's battle pass and monetization came from Kotick himself. With him gone, here's hoping that the healing can finally begin.

I mean you mentioned for a second but the slow pace, terrible decisions and balance changes themselves are the biggest issues. We waited months for the support overhaul only for a slight slap on the wrist to all of them.

Blizzard never wanted to give us PVE. They just wanted to monetize an already existing game. Empty promises to soften the blow and when the profits stopped growing, they scrapped the things they didn't care for in the begining.

"Remember when the first Overwatch came out?" *shows footage of character that wasn't released until years after Overwatch came out*

Overwatch had a death in 2019 with most players leaving then. Powercreep was then reduced between then and 2020, en route to Overwatch 2's release. I would say that players did not stick by overwatch 1 through thick and thin. Brigitte and the balance of the game at that time really killed it for a lot of people.

>game and characters are developed for 6v6 >game changes to 5v5 with poor balance changes >people who spent money on the 1st game get nothing for what is the exact same game >power creep in characters >heavy monetization >somehow loot boxes are missed Gee I wonder how things could've gone wrong

1) The drought of new content happened BEFORE the announcement of OW2. This has been confirmed in interviews with the OW dev team themselves and was a purposeful act. The 2020 pandemic made everything worse. 2) The 5v5 aspect did not make the tanks feel more powerful, it made them feel LESS powerful because you were now one person having to deal with the problems of TWO people. Some outliers were Roadhog, Orisa and Zarya because they hadn't actually been balanced or got overbuffed. Doomfist, Dva, Ball and Winston suffered from being Off Tanks in a game where the Off Tank role was now destroyed. 3) 2CP, or as you called it Assault, was not universally hated. Certain maps like Paris and Lunar Colony were notoriously hated, but maps like Hanamura, Anubis and Volskyia were generally liked albeit nowhere as much as a map like King's Row, a hybrid map. Push maps, however, have been notoriously hated by a large chunk of the playerbase for their poor design. Essentially being a "Walking Simulator". 4) The current Overwatch Dev Team is not the original dev team. Most of the main team left. 5) The original announcement for OW2 had it running next to OW1. OW2 was just going to be essentially a paid DLC for the PvE content whereas OW1 would still be the PvP game. Killing OW1 entirely was what started the snowball. 6) The game is not great. They NEVER balanced for 5v5. Anyone who played OW1 for a while would know the game feels fundamentally different and not in a good way. Power Creep is real. So is adding heroes that do WAY too much on their own. They now force meta artificially to make it feel "fresh" for the streamers. Getting two body tapped by anyone on the enemy team as a DPS feels horrible to play. Getting CC'd and obliterated in a second as a tank feels miserable and pointless and just a rehash of OW1's tank issues but worse. And support feels like you're boxed into playing Ana or Kiriko just to get some sort of value because the only counter to a lot of characters now is Anti-Nade, which is fundamentally an issue with balance. 7) The game launched missing all of the stuff OW1 had. They removed Quality of Life Features and just general features overall for no reason. And then added them back as a "new" thing. The notorious being the "On Fire" system. End game cards never came back and I cant find a single fan who says taking those out were a good thing. 8) Some features they promised in the OW2 beta launch video are STILL not in the game, including banners, first person emotes and weapon inspects. 9) They launched a Comp system so bad they've had to gut and redo the entire thing. Oh and they erased all your comp information from OW1 on your profile for NO reason and without warning.

I think during a year after OW was released, during the era of grassroots OW Esports, the game most definitely shined and had lots of promises. I remember waking up early in the morning during high school to watch some Apex OW. That to me was the peak of OW, no role queues and no battlepasses. You always anticipate for the next hero like the Sombra ARG (even though they ran with it for way too long) and the animations that Blizzard released. Plagued by Brigitte really did a number on this game and I remember using Brigitte exploit tech to my own advantage, that's how broken she was. I think the executives decisions at the end of the day for Acti-Blizz really determined the fate of OW in general. What once could be a giant of an esport, is now dwindled into oblivion, eventually failing to keep the casuals from enjoyign the game itself. Great video man, nostalgia hit hard for a second.

During Overwatch 1, I had all skins, even from events, without ever paying. I payed for the game and just farmed lootboxes like crazy. Then Overwatch 2 came as Free to Play. I payed for the game and then they opened the game up. I felt bamboozled. Made a fool of. Then that cursed battlepass. It hurt. Still hurts. The toxicity skyrocketed when Overtach turned to 2, due to being free to play. I feel very sad about that. I was really passionate about Overwatch.

Personally I just felt like every update made the game worse. It started out where you had to be skilled. Know not to stand next to Mei, know not to stand still in front of widowmaker and so on. These days everything feels so nerfed that most of the time you shouldn't die as long as you are next to a healer.

The game went wrong by going 5v5 Instead of making it more appealing to Casuals, 5v5 drives them away even more. Because youre the Solo Tank, you just can get hardcountered way to easily, so either you have a shit experience playing the tank you want or you yourself swap aswell. Also because there is less protection, 1 shots are way more opressive in 5v5. It is true that you technically have "more impact" because theres less players on each team, but that also means a teammate who is throwing the game has more impact which just ruins the game and makes Steamrolls way more common. I am heavly biased towards 6v6 and would do anything for it to return. Thats just what went wrong from a gameplay standpoint imo, everything else around the game is kind of fucked aswell.

Hi there. I'm one of those "old school players" with "thousands of hours" in the game that is mentioned in the video. From having OW1 as my main game until around July 2021 and then deciding to dropping it competely a few months after Ow2 release and then cackling like a maniac on the day they announced they were dropping the PvE mode completely, feeling like I dodged a bullet and screaming "I told you so!" x7. The changes they made to how they make money with this game was one of the minor reasons I dropped out. I hate the new system buts not even remotely close to what *really* made me quit. The most important reasons was that they dropped a tank - this is single handedly the worst design choice I have ever seen a major game company do in the history of their existence. They dont understand their own product, they dont understand their own playerbase, its completely insane that they do not understand the impact of this. Teaming up with a 2nd tank was the point of this game for tank players and not having my sidekick kills 100% of the fun of being a tank. I think it also makes for very poor viewing in regards to eSports, the games just got significantly more boring to watch since there's no synergy to be found. The 2nd reason was that they changed my favorite hero, Doomfist, into a tank and also I would say, an almost unplayable character. At least there is no fun to be had anymore. The third reason was that when OW2 came out, the game felt insanely unfinished and swiftly after release, they began to do this "rework" on 3 heroes a month for over a year. Constantly changing things and often far from the blueprint. The horror story imo is Sombra, also my bae and favorite hero after Doomfist. I hated 99% of those changes and it felt like they were just fumbling in the darkness, looking for a way to balance the whole thing while it was still LIVE - this should have been done behind the scenes before it came out. It was released too soon. Also losing my badge, that I had played hours and hours (literally 6 years) to obtain was really hard to accept. The magic was gone, it felt like a hostile takeover. My heart was broken because I lived this game. I will never forgive them and I'm never coming back. The only thing i want to do now is to find Jeff, shake his hand, give him a hug and say he did a good job and I understand why he left. I have never seen such a massive, major company like Blizzard destroy such a genuinely golden product in such a short amount of time. It's a unique happening in gaming history.

I miss the sense of progression above all things. Earning lootboxes every level up, able to obtain Event cosmetics with playtime. Now I’d either have to cough up a fortune to get anything of worth, play an absurd amount of time to get 1 skin, or both.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head in your conclusion. I personal love the characters, world, story, and creativeness. But I can no longer support Blizzard in what they have done to this game. We would have been better of keeping OW1 and getting more archive missions at this point.

Also as a new player, i find it incredibly hard to keep up or just learn the game. Maybe i am doing something wrong idk. IT seems you sometimes get placed with people who are amazingly good at the game, so every game i played it felt like you were wayyy out of your league. It makes the experience alot less enjoyable in my opinion

Finally, someone looking at it for what it is. It was November 20th of 2017 and I just got my hands on a PS4, so my dad took me to get some games for it. One of the first 3 games I ever played on the console was Overwatch, Legendary edition. At first I was skeptic because I had little to no experience playing FPS games but I quickly warmed up to it. Of course I was the kind of guy to stick to a single character at a time, sometimes outright leaving a match over not being able to play as them- sometimes in fear of letting my team down. But I explored the diversity. I became acquainted with multiple characters and even focused on learning to have two or three mains per class. But by the end of 2019 I gave up on Overwatch for a while as I got a little bored and got a PC which I used to download and play other games like Team Fortress 2 since it was similar- it did come first, after all. I was hooked on it for a long time and even now I still play it, though not as often as I did back then. We can thank the totally-not-government-issued-infection for it being my most played game of all. Then I met a friend who mained wrecking ball in 2021, so I wanted to get back into it- maybe see how the sequel is coming along. I enjoyed it- not really investigating much as I quickly got bored because I was too rusty. Then later in 22 I wanted to make a comeback, play a bit on PC since it was a major factor as to why I got the dang thing. Soon I got my hands of Ramattra, a character who seemed to fit my playstyle more than other characters. I had so much fun with him and the new modes but also missed the removed ones, and the maps. And then it happened: They announced it was cancelled. I was crushed by this... and then months later they add something close to, but the fact it was DLC alone was enough to make me sigh in disappointment. This game was great, near perfection when I started. But with Blizzard attempting to get a huge bite out of the crappy cliche cake that is the F2P Battle Pass blah blah blah, hate and death was inevitable. Overwatch deserved better for what it was. Will it make a comeback? Let's hope Blizzard doesn't play the stubborn move of holding it this way until it bleeds out. Give the game to another company- one who will do it RIGHT, preferably... implying that's possible.

I used to play this game with my friends all the time. We were die hard fans that loved to play either competitively or casually, but we moved on because the game lost its appeal basically just because it was Overwatch (patch) 2

the thing with ow2 is that it isnt even a bad game, i can see how someone who never played ow could like it, its just when u compare it to ow1 and see what we've lost and what it could've been that it sucks

As soon as I heard “hero shooters”, great pain had been caused in my heart

I had the entire gallery unlocked in OW1, everything. Because I played so much. Since I didn't want to log into the microtransaction game, the "time limit" ran out, and my gallery has now expired. I think that says it all.

Overwatch on release was massively important to me, I made lifelong friends through it. And now I don't even touch that game

only reason i stopped playing is because the game simply rewards you for only one shotting opponents , they buffed supports so much that it is now impossible to deal damage without it getting healed instantly.

Based on the bad decisions, broken promises and increasing competition, Overwatch absolutely should be dying.

That's exactly my story with OW2. I started playing OW around 2018 and it was awesome! I was hyped to see what OW2 was gonna be like. The switch to 5v5 has its own problems, but I think it's an improvement. Positioning and movement matter more; it's more dynamic. I was really disappointed by the change for a battlepass system. Loot boxes were more fun because every box could give you something cool while every battlepass level gives you a single crappy thing and you have to grind so much. Even if you pay, you'll need to grind a lot. In OW1, it didn't matter if I didn't play regularly, I could still unlock cool skins in the 2-3 lootboxes I'd get that one day I play on a whim, but that's impossible with battlepasses. Then the coop campaign got cancelled... My disapointment was immesurable and my trust was ruined. But what really put the final nail in the coffin for me was putting GAMEPLAY elements behind a paywall. In an online game, having new special characters behind a paywall almost always bring a pay2win element in the game even if it's subtle. I just got so disgusted by the game I used to love. I quit and haven't played in almost a year. The only thing that keeps overwatch alive in my mind is made by independent creators: p*rn

i mean, when you see that even while purchasing the winter holiday battlepass you can't unlock everything and that you have to purchase another pack to complete the event... it says a lot

lmao the choices this made makes me want it to die I paid for ow1, got memed by ow2

Idk if I would say overwatch is dead. Its far from as popular as it once was but with the game having an actual hero release schedule its still more talked about then Paladins which is kinda my testing for knowing if the game is going under. I dont think it will reach its peak numbers again (for more reasons then just their mistakes) but I do think it can live on with the players that stay checking on the game and news ones gained from it going free. I feel like this idea of it being dead is skewed though by people loving to go off twitch views for health of a game too much.

it's been 5 years and they STILL haven't figured out Roadhog

One personal flaw I would give is Bastion. His new appearance does make him look incredible (and I really love the hat). However, his abilities being changed is a little sad; Gonna miss his self-repair and sentry mode.

I started playing right before ov 1 dried up so didn't get that into it. And when i heard ov2 would get pve i got a little excited. But no pve is the reason i stopped playing all together. I only played 2-3 seasons and last i played was prop hunt mode but after i uninstalled and never touched it again.

removed ow1 dropped the pve which was the selling point of ow2 5v5 instead of 6v6 FOMO skin bundles locking heros behind a battlepass did I miss something?

Blizzard doesn't understand that in the long run, adding a PVE will increase their revenue, because if they don't add any major content then players are going to get bored, no matter how fun it is. Adding a PVE will also allow for a long life span, as they can continue the story over a couple of years. PVE will also most likely bring a metric shit ton of old players back, and new players into the game. Blizzard and Activision don't understand that it's not just about making a game, its about making a fun game, and then keeping it fresh. That's why so many new indie titles and indie as a whole is blowing up right now, because they can develop their games how they want without pressure from a company. They can pour their heart and soul into making something they enjoy and are proud of. AAA games just don't have that right now, and it needs to change.

What is “crunchy” gameplay?

I couldn’t stop playing ow for years, these days I can’t even find a reason to hop on ow2

For me the real problem are a dumb team, holy fuck, I can't anymore

Acti-Blizzard is basically a cinema going "why waste money on showing movies, all our biggest revenue is in popcorn and soda!" and then axe movies.. Great games with stories may not be your biggest money makers, but that's what made people *like* you in the first place.