Oh YIKES I hadn't realized

I saw a theory once that said "the curse is not real, its just something that came from the grieving mind of Edith Finch". In essence, the family let the "curse" take hold of their life and mind, to the point that everyone on the family expected to die and just.. didn't care? Some deaths are just accidental but a few are pure negligence. Was it the curse thar built the child swing on a cliff? Or was it a stupid negligent decision?. Did the curse drown the baby or was it a mother's neglect. Even the poem of how they say "the baby was probably happy in his last moments, so you should be happy too" when referring to how "it wasn't her fault, it was the curse" just puts more weight on the idea that they are just numb to it because its all that darn curse and not their fault.

​@@MrShadic140 that reminds me of the villain of Paranoia Agent.

Women and accountability don't mix.

i mean to be fair this is absolutely a kind of real-life reaction you'd expect when someone is unable to admit to their own grievous error

Tienes razón no me gustaría imaginar que pasaría si Mumei estaba presente.

@@fernandob.g.5972 or kronii and gura💀

@@fernandob.g.5972 lol

If it was Sana she’d be ok too

@@umaru6235 apathy might be their way of pushing the problems away... idk

Always has been 🔫

Was that ever in question? I feel like the only real contenders for Neutral are Mumei and Kronii. Bae's ironically the only sane woman in Council at times.

And I feel Bae is the most family oriented in the Council

@@Birthday888 Mumei is definitely Chaotic Neutral while Kronii is more Lawful Neutral

@@Voldrim359 Have you SEEN what Kronii did to poor, innocent sandwiches? And you call that Lawful?

I imagine the developers would be hunted if they showed what really happened.

the real question is how did the frog turn on the water

@@Enchie the developers will die in the most painful way for sure if they showed what's really happened at that moment, People will showed him hell for sure, even though it's the reality that we must face, cause that kind of accident had been happened all this time due to the lack of parenting educational

There's a video about this game that explains who is the "villain" of the game and what is the "curse" of the Finches that I really recommend (Not the Game Theory one LOL). One thing that the video talks about is how the curse of the family boils down to them being irresponsible and blaming fate instead of taking responsabilities. We dont know how the baby felt at its last moments but the dad takes comfort in believing that the baby wasn't concerned at his imminent fate.

"Its" btw lmao

Being chaos means you know the chaotic nature of humans all too well.

Someone said she's sweet as pie. That is incorrect. Bae is the human incarnation of maple syrup. Sweetest little thing I know of.

It's like Towa's case all over again being TMT..

Unless it's about killing chimkens in RE, lol

Fauna is sweet, but she is suprisingly though when she needs to be. She is the kind of person that is emotional, yes, but will take care of you when needed, despite her own feelings. A really good friend to have.

This is why stories/narratives are so powerful. They can show you want is real without being real.

"We suffer more in imagination than reality"

Well yeah... That's the more logical emotion to feel... I would kill Kay too in my anger just for leaving a baby alone in the water (Saddly, kids on the range to 0 until 4 or 5 needs like 24hrs of attention, you can't leave them a minute alone without supervision)

@@Voldrim359 Funnily enough emotions around dead babies don't always follow the most logical path

@@Voldrim359 I would have beat the hell outta someone if I seen them leave their kid especially a baby in the water alone, I hate children but I would know better than to leave a child that is literally to young to do anything besides depend on their parent to take care of it in the water.

...did it not occur that her reaction might have an irl reason? This might've hit too close to home for her.

@@Voldrim359 I mean, both are equally logical emotions, it's just that Bae fixated on the tragedy of the baby's death, while Fauna fixated on the irresponsibility of the parents.

I am glad you think like that and got over it man, cant imaging how hard it was. All the best to your life ahead!

@@Owlcean Thank you and I am trying to live the best life I can for the both of us so I can tell her a wonderful story on the other side.

It doesn't feel like lying on your stomach would kill a baby. The idea of the guilt of accidentally killing a baby is horrible.

@@adrianaslund8605 newborns can barely lift their heads. They are fragile and helpless which is why their response to everything is to just cry until someone figures out what they need. Suffocating from a blanket or pillow happens a lot, which is why you don't put those things in a newborn's crib. Drowning or scalding from baths happens a lot because of distracted parents.

Bro this made me cry. I’m sorry for you loss and glad to hear you are better.

I saw a theory once that said "the curse is not real, its just something that came from the grieving mind of Edith Finch". In essence, the family let the "curse" take hold of their life and mind, to the point that everyone on the family expected to die and just.. didn't care? Some deaths are just accidental but a few are pure negligence. Was it the curse thar built the child swing on a cliff? Or was it a stupid negligent decision?. Did the curse drown the baby or was it a mother's neglect. Even the poem of how they say "the baby was probably happy in his last moments, so you should be happy too" when referring to how "it wasn't her fault, it was the curse" just puts more weight on the idea that they are just numb to it because its all that darn curse and not their fault.

There was never a "curse" is the point... It was a few accidents & a lot of negligence, stupidity, etc, with an unwillingness to accept any accountability for the fact lots of the deaths were clearly someone's fault...

True dat

Rage and sadness

Rage causes a faster heart rate than any form of sadness since it’s pumping more blood in order to enable the fighting part of the fight or flight instinct. Shows that the reactions are genuine to the characters. Bae is heartbroken, but Fauna is furious and ready to rip someone’s head off.

@@nikik5567 Chaos mourns and Nature is furious

@@ubermaster134 makes sense. The mom is acting in opposition to Nature, which dictates that the mother raise and protect her young until they’ve reached maturation, thus incurring Nature’s wrath. Chaos knows the terrible truth of sentient creatures however, and simply mourns the inevitable misuse of its powers by mankind to create terrible outcomes.

With Bae 99 is the highest she gets talking about this and you can tell it's because she's like struggling to say it. Fauna literally reacted to bae just hinting at crying. My God she's caring!

Wait, she has to bear the baby AND pay A Lemony? That's rough.

Would you trust IRyS to supervise a child? I'm surprised she manages to find her house every day.

@@aerthreepwood8021 yeet the baby!

Amazing to think the God of Chaos will make a 100x better mother than the singing nephilim.

I hope Bae could get custody whenever they divorce. Never trust IRyS with baby after that Mother Simulation😨

But do you know how many times stuff like this, and worse, has happened throughout history? It hardens you man, just thinking about how evil, dark, sad, and messed up our history is. People used to literally dash infants against rocks (its in the bible, and other historical accounts corroborate it) when invading countries (not all the time obv, but still it happened at all) and burn infants to death in the white-hot hands of statues while the baby cried in agony. You can't be a historian or a student of history without either being psycho, or so hard that you could be mistaken for one. Being the second doesn't make you a monster, it just makes you broken and scarred.

@BurningMan777 To be fair, tho, knowingly & intentionally killing babies is a slightly different source of anger than “to dumb to be left in the same room as a baby”.

Fauna mentioned listening to True Crime podcasts a lot

I think its just that different things hit different people. Like anohana is seen as incredibly sad but it didnt hit me at all because sad things about friends doesnt make me sad. On the other hand, the moment a parent does anything self sacrificing in media i'm tearing up. Themes of forgiveness can also make me cry. Its really just on a person to person basis what gets to them.

@@snowbear8976 A lot of women do these days. I don't get it, honestly.

@GregariousGregor Why do you not get it? about 90% of sexual assault victims in the US are female

@@leonfire99 yeah Anohana was fine for me, but I've never cried as much as I did during A Place Further than the Universe. And I didn't bother even trying to watch Plastic Memories.

"Also I can never get enough of Fauna sass" try saying that 10x but really fast

@@bmo3778 where is the lie though

Fauna is flaming hot in rage

Fauna was probably struggling not to go into a swear laden rant. Those were not amusement chuckles, those are "I'm chuckling because if I don't I'll probably get even angrier."

Fauna played Dota 2 ranked. Shes more hardened than folks think

@@Scuffed_Cirno Like a true mommy

Fauna only looks and sounds soft. She has a hardened center for sure. Bae, though? She's got a gooey squishy heart. VERY emotive by comparison.

Drowning is a terrible experience, the fear and anxiety you feel at that moment is terrible, some jerk pushed me into the deepest part of the pool (2,5 m) and I was 1,60m and didn't knew how to swim less than how to float, fortunately the lifeguard saw that and it was solved pretty fast but the fear I had while I was sinking deeper and deeper felt like forever

@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU I now want to fuck up the person that pushed you in

@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU back when I was learning how to swim without floating my brother dunked me into the water while my dad had his back turned. Legit I was hanging on the edge and my brother legit grabbed me and shoved me under. Granted he didn't know I didn't have floaties on. So I was under for a solid minute or so unable to swim back up till my dad noticed and got me out. Being 4 years old you have a very small lung capacity and and I almost blacked out. I'm not afraid to go swimming or under water but you like force me under I panic

@@bman296 same, swimming has become an important part of my life for health reasons, heck I even passed the lifeguard tests with pretty good times

@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU Was it really for you? I've gone under to the point of falling unconscious before. I didn't feel any fear or anxiety at all. And I am a very anxiety ridden person. I felt very calm. Nothing felt wrong at all. All I could really think of was to open my eyes and look at how different everything looked underwater. And, each time this happened to me, the amazement of how everything looked is all I recall experiencing before everything went black and I'd wake up somewhere else.

I saw a fan theory that Bae is the REAL guardian of civilization, and Mumei, who is actually the avatar of chaos, has tricked Bae into thinking that Bae is chaos as a prank. This scene...really feeds into that headcanon for me. So many feels for innocent human life and the misuse of technologies. Bae is such a responsible, empathetic leader of the Council!

It's just pixel, pixel can't hurt you

@@Owlcean not physically. But pixels have hurt me emotionally many times.

whats sad about this though is that shit liek this probably happens a lot in real life

@@hayatojin2886 yeah and still angry for the people that responsible

Everytime that kids die in games hurts me a lot

The soap is really masterpiece 👌🏻

"It's just a game" they said. And I'm gonna kill Sheperd in MW3 right now after he kill Ghost. And you said Soap gonna die? Man....

I can’t forgive General Shepherd when he said “That’s one less loose end” unexpectedly. :(

Well... according to the visuals, it was off and she drained the tub. But then also according to the visuals, a toy frog leapt out of the tub and turned the tap back on, so maybe we'll never know what really happened.

I'm not sure what happened since I don't know this game💀 the visuals show that She already turn It off and the drain still there🤨 how TF this still full

@@nyperold7530The visuals are just the babu’s imagination as he plays in the tub. He managed to turn the water on himself.

I didn't cry here because it is framed so comically. I think the first time I bawwed my eyes out was Planetarian and that's a freekin kinetic novel. Steins;Gate nailed me too. (If you don't see it coming, it is a gutpunch.)

@@starshade7826 I knew it was coming in Steins;Gate, but reading for like 30 hours and being incredibly invested made it hurt worse.

It's not the video game part that surprises me, some are very well written and after 30+ hours of engagement can have a big impact on people even if they don't have such empathy. It's the fact that there was 0 setup, and you know from the moment the mom walks away what's going to happen. All the usual storytelling elements that would make people cry are missing.

She probably has some IRL trauma about those types of things

@@starshade7826 Fruit of Grisaia, Michiru's route murdered me.

No, because nature is uncaring/indifferent.

@@kenjutsukata1o1 well, uncaring to us anyway. But maybe caring to those she view equal in power, like chaos.

@@flordelphinta But very, *very* unkind to rats :-p but yeah, perhaps if nature was able to embody as a sentient being it would find friendship in other supernatural beings.

@@kenjutsukata1o1 nature loves rats, they can eat almost anything, survive in the worst of places, are highly intelligent animals, and are unaffected by many diseases. Its human civilisation that is cruel to rats

And yet I clicked again. WHY DO I DO THAT TO MYSELF

You monster, take my like