Owning a Tesla Model 3 WITHOUT a HOME CHARGER

Owning a Tesla Model 3 WITHOUT a HOME CHARGER - (1 Year on)

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- Owning a Tesla Model 3 WITHOUT a HOME CHARGER - (1 Year on)
If you're thinking of owning a Tesla Model 3 Long Range without a home charger or you're wondering how expensive it is to rely on public charging only, then this video is for you.
In this video, I'll talk about the costs, the problems without having a home charger and more.
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - My car information
00:51 - Why didn't I get a home charger for my Tesla?
01:49 - Using public chargers for free
03:05 - Experience with no home charging after one year
04:27 - Increasing charging costs
05:20 - What charging apps do I use to find chargers?
06:37 - How much has public charging cost me?
09:42 - Should you buy a Tesla with no home charger?
11:43 - Round up and conclusion
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@snakeplissken128 3 ай бұрын

Appreciated hearing how you have dealt with charging and its potential issues.

@MBrown 2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much

@ThatMarkGilroy 2 жыл бұрын

Great overview Mark. One little parking loophole is that if you’re going to be parking in a town centre, even if you don’t need to charge it’s often cheaper just to pay and charge, as many offer free parking whilst charging.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Yes thats a good tip!

@ThatMarkGilroy 2 жыл бұрын

@@MBrown You mention York which is a classic example. You can easily pay over £15 to park for 5hrs whereas it might cost 15p per kilowatt on a 7kw Pulse charger. If you’re parking/charging regularly could save yourself a ton if you set the car to charge at a slower rate.

@louisrodriques9323 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Mark. This is particularly useful for those of us in the US, where the public charging network (other than superchargers) is still weak. It’s why I installed a home charger. Thanks!

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Louis, yes I’ve heard you don’t have a lot of public chargers in the US, is that changing? We have a lot on the U.K.

@louisrodriques9323 2 жыл бұрын

@@MBrown It’s changing slowly. But it does make owning a Tesla the best choice for many people given the breadth and reliability of the supercharging network.

@Gaaaaav 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video Mark! I myself have had my ID.3 for a year next month and also purchased without having a home charger as I live in a flat. With public charging at the start it was amazing as it felt as if there were very little EV's on the road.. however almost 12 months on and there are vastly more on the road however this doesn't annoy me or hasn't put me off in any way as I've just adapted to know what chargers are generally less busy than others in my area and utilise the free charging at work whenever I'm in the office. Personally I still recommend people get an EV even if they're unable to charge at home but this is just me!

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Good points Gav and thanks for the comments! Yes I agree it hasn’t put me off yet either

@Uouttooo Жыл бұрын

If you have charging at work, that is just as good as charging at home. That is just a no brainer and not really a challenge to own an EV. I would like to find out from someone who has neither.

@PM-hq7ll 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there Mark.Yes i'm a Tesla owner now [6 weeks ago] So far I've done a trip to N Wales with no problems as I researched this over and over again and it was fine even destination charger. Local chargers to me in London are fine at the moment with a cluster around where I live another research item.So all in all thanks for the video and other videos with great advice and delivered in a friendly and useful way without any nonsense.Thank you so much.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much really appreciate it! Glad you’re getting on well with your Tesla too!

@Uouttooo Жыл бұрын

But London has the highest density of chargers, why is it even a challenge? Think about people who live in other cities/towns.

@NancyMichellee 5 ай бұрын

I’m so 😊😅😅😅😊

@rayangers5186 Жыл бұрын

Mark, enjoyed your video and seeing how others are dealing with charging their EV without having to install a system. We got an Ioniq 5 6 months ago and love it aolng with not having to visit gas stations weekly. We live in Los Angeles California in an apartment with a garage using the 120v outlet to charge and we pay an additional $25.00 a month for it. We charge the car 3 to 4 times a week and it is working out great for us. We don't have far to go for work so charging during the week builds it up for our weekend adventures. We have free charging from Electrify America for another 18 months and will us it when needed.

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Ray, really appreciate it. Yes its amazing how much you can pull out of those chargers

@andrewgray4784 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Mark. Went to the Ferrybridge supercharger for the first time this weekend and that’s it 47 ppkwh.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew!

@ezpoppy55 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Basically, for those who can’t (or don’t want to) install a home charger but are considering an EV - do your due diligence. It very may be doable. It’s great to know it’s worked for you!

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ernest, yes 100% people should check first

@rickyjbenjamin Жыл бұрын

Very helpful. Thank you 😊

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

@frecklesx20 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Mark.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@bagsfull6494 2 жыл бұрын

Have had my tesla model 3lr since March 2021 and loving it. I don't do many miles at all and just use my local free supermarket charger. So far I have only used a super charger once but mainly use my granny charger overnight at cheap rate electricity. One thing I have noticed is if you bury your right foot on the juice pedal for a long period of time a 40 mile trip will use up more than 100 miles of battery.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey glad you’re enjoying your car and great you’re getting by with the free supermarket chargers

@stuartguest1195 2 жыл бұрын

Good video and some good points, i also see a lot of issues where 3rd party chargers are either not working or are full, so glad i have the Tesla and Superchargers, although when they allow other non Tesla vehicles to charge i fear the worst.........i do have a home charger but take the challenge every week to get free charges on my travels, i have 1 50kw charger 7 miles from me that is very volatile (but free), some days it works others it has a massive line waiting for the free charge so i go home plug in and take the hit to my bank balance..overall i cant complain and i do usually 400-500 miles a week for free (i have a 7kw charger at work and i charge overnight when others are at home as i stay away) although through the day it again is first come first served. i also used to use the one at Bents Garden centre that i recognise from your videos but again getting more popular..... also i do now see a lot of high value - 40 - 50p PKW chargers not populated as others also look for the free ones, Falkirk FC stadium has loads of fast chargers that were free to use before and always used, now you have to pay and they are 90% empty all of the time.....what a waste.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stuart yes 3rd party chargers not working is a big pain to be honest! Oh yes bents is a good one, used to use that, but everytime I go now it's being used, usually by a Hybrid with 23 mile range haha!

@jupiterfive3379 2 жыл бұрын

Bear in mind Mark, the inconsistency of the price of electricity for charging your car. VAT is charged at 5% for electricity to the home whereas it’s charged at 20% for electricity from public chargers.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey yes very good point! 👍👍

@kabysummit5801 Жыл бұрын

I lived without a dedicated home charger for 2 months before getting one. Just takes planning and it's really about how much you drive every week.

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

hey Kaby yes it sure is possible! we have a lot of local chargers so it’s not too much of a problem for me either.

@nottmfunguy 29 күн бұрын

I lived "without" an electric car for a year and I love it. In fact for 35 years since I been driving and I wouldn't have it any other way. Happy days. 🙂

@SeanyHardy 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and enjoyable.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Seany

@paulironside665 2 жыл бұрын

Just a bit of info for you.. don't know which bit of Norwich you visit but there is now open a new Gridserve site near the postwick Park and ride just off the A47.. separate tesla chargers on site..

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Paul, oh yes I want to visit that one next time I'm back!

@anoone1812 2 жыл бұрын

I sometimes use the 3 pin plug option at home. That is better than trying to find a vacant charger. Sadly not all areas are like yours that have chargers that aren’t always in use. Adding just a outside weatherproof socket would be a good thing, if you don’t need a home charging point installed.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey yeah around my parents is pretty bad for public charging too

@anoone1812 2 жыл бұрын

@@MBrown i commented only to give my view and I still liked the video.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

@@anoone1812 Really appreciate the comments thank you. I was maybe thinking of getting a good extension lead and getting a waterproof socket, thanks

@MarkdonnaP2 Жыл бұрын

@@MBrown did you ever get an extension lead ? many out there and are allot thicker than the standard extension reels.

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

@@MarkdonnaP2 Hey Mark, yes I did! Got a couple of bits: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7KknriJrKi1qJc.html

@PilotVBall Жыл бұрын

I got a home charger in 2010 when I got the 2010 Tesla Roadster. In 2014 I upgraded the charger when I got the 2015 Tesla Model S and after buying the 2013 Chevrolet Volt. In 2015 I also got a Nissan Leaf. Then in 2023 I got a Tesla Model Y. I just realized how little I've used the home charger since 2010. Just about always I end up charging for free at work. Nice to have the home charger as a backup. But it just sits there almost completely unused.

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree I’ve only used mine twice

@alexanderjamesninnim 3 ай бұрын

I've just checked, The BEV chargers which were free and then 25p per kWh are now 87p per kWh! Instavolt which was 55p per kWh is now 85p per kWh! The long and short of it is if you can charge at home, great! Overnight off peak for 7p per kWh If you can't and you have no option at work, then you are stuck paying a minimum of around 50p per kWh now on the public network.

@MBrown 2 ай бұрын

Yes the prices are crazy now

@tdtesla 2 жыл бұрын

If I still lived in UK, would be very useful!! Thanks for your efforts - I don’t know about where you live, but here in Málaga, there are more & more Teslas!!

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Are there a lot of chargers in Malaga?

@simhz2221 2 ай бұрын

An alternative option would be to charge your Tesla Model Y at work. Although I cannot charge it at home presently, I take advantage of the free charging stations provided by my workplace.

@MBrown 2 ай бұрын

Yeah thats great if you can do that!

@talktorobi 2 жыл бұрын

6 months of electric driving and have been using only the granny charger whilst I sleep every night, it's slow but the car is parked anyway, so 80% everyday.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Robi, oh that's great, how much % do you get overnight? Any issues with overheating etc on the plug?

@talktorobi 2 жыл бұрын

@@MBrown no issues whatsoever, using a 10 metre cable through the window. Very crude but it works, daily drive uses up about 20-30% easy to to up in 6 hours. Schedule charge from midnight when it's dirt cheap.

@Richard_Barnes 2 жыл бұрын

So, this is my 12,286 miles from August 2018 until August 2021. With being retired and covid, it’s dropped dramatically. A 2011 Audi S3 using V-Power fuel and now it’s on E10 fuel as the other cost is stupid. Drum roll please………… £2989! Yep, I keep a total record of my petrol costs, every single one of them since 2014. So, I think you’ve done well Mark! 😂🤦🏻‍♂️ I appreciate the info and costs as I will never be able to home charge either due to house position. I’d be doing most of my charging on a nearby Tesla supercharger TBH, so costs would be more. Be interesting how battery longevity is just doing that as well. Anyway, it’s a bit of a dream. Thx 🙏🏻

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Wow that is expensive!! Yeah superchargers are a lot more some this weekend were 50pkwh which is quite expensive

@briankavanagh7191 2 жыл бұрын

Mark, 5 mins walk from me is Tesco with 4 Pod Point chargers and I can guarantee there is always 2 tesla's charging, I would recommend if you can have a wall charger fitted do it. I charge my Kona every 10 days and don't miss the petrol station prices.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Brian that’s great, yeah I would love to have home charging! Maybe in the next house

@Southernersontour 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark we not got a Tesla but nearly a year no home charger and cost only £3.28 to get home from Scotland to Kent 12000 plus miles now good video

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey thats great news! Can’t beat that!

@ivanortiz-penafiel8941 Жыл бұрын

Hey Mark, thanks so much for the video! I haven't seen any comments about this but I'm afraid that if I charge in public chargers, which most have DC chargers, this might affect the battery life in the long term. I read that using too much superchargers and DC chargers may lower it. I'd appreciate it if you answered this: with you charging in public chargers, how has this affected the battery life of your Tesla in that year that you've owned it? Thanks so much in advance!

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Hey Ivan thanks for the comment. So yes I’ve heard fast charging can degrade the battery faster… however not by a lot so I wouldn’t worry too much. I try to use the slower public charging when I can 👍

@tonygrooms5207 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting see EV/Tesla ownership from the other side as I myself have a drive and home charging. I still however get some free public charging in when I go shoppers. I have also seen these getting busier of time as I myself have also owned my M3 since March 21.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tony! Yes I came back from Cornwall today and the chargers were full every time

@yenxilow8158 Жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, thanks for your informative video. I just got a MY 2 weeks ago, no home charging as well like you. Are you still getting free charging. I have beev just down the same street which costs 49p now. Did a charge from 40% to 90% and it costs £20. I'm also living in Manchester but couldnt find free charging. Any tips? Or any hints on where youre charging for free? Thanks!

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Hey really sorry but it seems like all the free charging has gone now... such a shame!

@longlivetheclash Жыл бұрын

Hey mate, I know Yarmouth well and I also know that Gonzo’s Tea Room. Born and raised in Norwich and I visit quIte a lot again these days. I love Norfolk? Make sure to pick up those chocolates for the GF (essential mate).

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks, yeah its a great place isn't it, I always look forward to going back! Been visiting more of North Norfolk too recently

@Maurice_Moss 21 күн бұрын

I'm very seriously considering an EV, and i can't gome charge (terrace house). But there's lots of public chargers near me (all carpark based) and walking distance, so could easily leave it charging for a few hours. Most are bp chargemaster as well, which seem to be priced the best with the subscription.

@MBrown 21 күн бұрын

Hey that's great, yes I didn't have a home charger for three years and got along okay, I would recommend using the Tesla charges as they are one of the cheaper ones. I think the BP charge Masters are quite expensive.

@Maurice_Moss 21 күн бұрын

@MBrown forget to mention it won't be a Tesla 😂 probably an i3

@mucky2hot 2 жыл бұрын

Ive had a 2019 SR+ without a home charger since Dec 2019. I use mainly free Tesco podpoint chargers to top up or i can use a 22Kw Vend electric charger 5 mins down the road at a cost of 15p per Kwh which is significantly cheaper than my home

@harrytrueman4216 2 жыл бұрын

With supermarket chargers are they not limited to 7kwh and 3 hours in their car park? So you can only top up 21 kwh but that's 3 hours of your life sat in the car waiting.

@mucky2hot 2 жыл бұрын

@@harrytrueman4216 Yes your correct, fortunately for me my local supermarket has the podpoint trio, 2x 7kwh, 2x 22kwh and 50kwh rapid. I mainly try to top when battery level around 45-50%. So using the free 22kwh charger only takes around 1hr 30mins to top up back to 85-90% so I spend 45mins to 1 hr shopping in store then the rest sitting in car. Only need to do that once or twice a week

@harrytrueman4216 2 жыл бұрын

@@mucky2hot I suppose you have to strategise

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s some great prices!

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

I sometimes do this if I can have a coffee and catch up on some work

@djwarren5081 Жыл бұрын

I've sort of got my head around the charging and range bit. What about insurance costs compared to a comparable ICE vehicle?

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Hey Warren I’ve got a video about the insurance side on the channel. It’s a lot more expensive but I found insurers like Churchill to be much cheaper

@djwarren5081 Жыл бұрын

@@MBrown thanks Mark, I must have missed that one.

@Roy-qn2ie 2 жыл бұрын

What do you do when unexpected things happen though Mark, like having a extra drive to the dentist or doctor unexpected, then you rely on super chargers too get a quick top up?

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Roy to be honest I try and charge the car when it falls to about 30-40% so I’ve always got around 100-150 miles in the car so plenty to cover journeys like that 👍

@Knowledgeefficient 13 күн бұрын

What year is your model 3

@bobjohn3108 Жыл бұрын

Hello Mark, with some charging stations now charging a pound per KW, how much is it costing you now as you do not have gone charging?

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Hey Bob yeah it’s tripled pretty much! 😭

@bobjohn3108 Жыл бұрын

@@MBrown so will you be installing a charger? I know it's expensive for your situation but the energy will be cheaper. Swings and rounda bouts

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

@@bobjohn3108 no I won’t be at the moment, can still get some free charging nearby at the moment 👍

@WheresMyPolenta 24 күн бұрын

Should those outlets be getting wet from rain & snow?

@MBrown 23 күн бұрын

They should be water resistant, however, I think it’s best to protect it if you can

@rajjy1976 Жыл бұрын

The public chargers you find in a supermarket car park, aren’t they piddly slow ones? And I’d guesstimate most people are in and out within 30mins, how much charge are you likely to gain??

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

yeah they are the 7kwh ones, we have some in the city you can leave for 4 hours, so I get about a 50% charge in that time.

@niceboy60 Жыл бұрын

KZfaqrs (might) not the best to talk about EV charging costs , They Promote EVs in return they get Free miles in form of referrals that includes 1000 miles , per each referral there's cases youtubers receiving free cars or hundreds of thousands free miles 🤔 . Its no surprise they will claim their vehicle operations are low or non Existent🤷🏻‍♀️ , sadly you might not be as lucky or have a Completely different experience 🤦🏻‍♂️ . Great review by the way , Great EV Channel 👍🏻

@thewaxlab Жыл бұрын

My company pays for my whole electric bill at home! And it’s still way less than if I turned in fuel receipts for the amount of driving I do. (Sales)

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Hey Al that's great to hear!

@jeremywee3874 2 жыл бұрын

Loving how informative your videos are and how you edit your video together! A good mix of b roll. Glad to see a video about the Tesla car actually have some focus on the car rather than the person talking to the camera the whole time. Am soaking up all the information you presented here but suspect I will have to rewatch this video once the Shanghai factory delivers my car…….in 9 - 12 months time. 😔 A fan all the way from New Zealand. 🇳🇿

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Jeremy, really appreciate it! Good luck with your Tesla, you're gonna love it!

@aaronbounds1336 2 жыл бұрын

Weird that a remote dwelling that already has electricity to it shouldn't get a BEV...why not just plug it into a regular three-pin socket? If the dwelling has electricity running to it, it would be worth investigating the cost of adding another dryer outlet. Doing the electrical upgrade may cost less than six months of fuel, nine months of fuel, 24 months of fuel (you get the idea), and then is there forever. A one-time cost of who knows how much might be preferable to the ongoing cost of fuel and maintenance of an ICEr.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Adam, so locally the public charging was either free or pretty cheap. The cost for putting in a charger was around £1000 with the work needed to dig the garden. I could use an extension lead but it’s so slow to charge that way I’ve been good just using all the public chargers

@danf3607 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Adam, wiring refs are very different in the U.K. we have 240 volt instead of 120, so we run dryers on a normal circuit. Most people not using a dedicated charger but not wanting to trickle charge would fit a 32amp ‘commando’ socket. Still requires a qualified electrician to fit.

@Bryan-fb8dh 2 жыл бұрын

Most people live less than 30 miles from work. Recharge 2 or 3 times a week. Not that big a deal.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Bryan yes I live a round 20 mile trip and charge once a week with a public charger, does me fine!

@Ragnar009 3 ай бұрын

I have no doubt you ca manage without a home charger. Most people don't want to even think about their car in daily life. Let alone plan their life around charging their car.

@daryn5804 9 ай бұрын

I have just ordered a new Tesla. Not long until Rip-Off Britain will have us all paying the same price as fossil fuel. Make hay whilst the sun still (Partially) shines.

@MBrown 9 ай бұрын

Hope not, but it seems to be going that way. I'm getting some solar next to protect against the long term prices rises I think

@frecklesx20 2 жыл бұрын

Has your battery suffered any battery degradation by using public and superchargers.

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Hey no I don't think so, I've not ran any official tests, but have almost the same range as when the car was new

@stevenwilkins3687 3 ай бұрын

Just to be clear. Your battery doesn’t like occasional charging, it needs to be plugged in at all times, even when not in use. It especially doesn’t like supercharging and that should only be done when absolutely necessary. Why are you not granny charging at home?

@MBrown 2 ай бұрын

Hey Steven, the garden is too long, battery health is still really good on my car.. but moving soon, so next house is getting a Tesla charger put in right away

@stevenwilkins3687 2 ай бұрын

@@MBrown 👍🏼

@maathlove Жыл бұрын

If you drive at least 20 mile / day with no home charger it will be easy ?

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be nice and easy. It's pretty much what I do

@Adventures-and-More Ай бұрын

what is a Ques?

@MBrown Ай бұрын

Ques? Not sure?

@Adventures-and-More Ай бұрын

@@MBrownone of your captions. Think you mean queue?

@claudiooliveira3353 2 жыл бұрын

Would be great if I had a chance to lease one

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Claudio and good luck

@Aman.zi6 8 ай бұрын

2:20 ...what on earth is a "free charger"?? There's no way you're charging your Tesla for free. Btw I'm from the US so I'm guessing it's different in Europe.

@MBrown 8 ай бұрын

Hey yes in the UK up until recently most cities had 100% free chargers. So for my first year of ownership I barely paid anything to charge it. Unfortunately due to the cost of energy most of them do charge now.

@NatmanFilms 2 жыл бұрын

*HERE IS REAL NEWS - In Canada Tesla increases prices for all Model S, 3, X and Y variants in Canada!! Also the Model 3 LR will come with the old style headlights not the NEW MATRIX!! What a rip off!!*

@MBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is bad about the headlights!

@pjeaton58 2 ай бұрын

So, you've got an expensive EV and free electric into the bargain, while some of us are still paying hyped prices for petrol !

@gaae2000 Жыл бұрын

Can u imagine the time wasted finding, charging, and waiting for your car to charge.

@MBrown Жыл бұрын

Most people charge at home so it’s charging when they sleep and you wake up with a full tank. In terms of a road trip to the car does it for you, you don’t need to do any searching and by the time you’ve had a toilet stop and coffee the car is full

@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын

With many new EV's, the locations of chargers are already programmed into the satnav......