#IOTV #ESAPI #9x39 This was a real challenge to do, your further support will be necessary linktr.ee/Oxid... Basic test data: docs.google.co...
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@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
ERROR: at 0:26 I should've said M995. Shout out to my boy Corbin, my cameraman caught covid and was actually sick so Corbin stepped in for him the day of the VSS test for a 12 hour drive. This test was extremely expensive, I could really use your financial support to help keep me going, and going faster linktr.ee/Oxide_does
@Tr4wnet2 жыл бұрын
Soo its the price of these rounds that hit you the hardest or actually getting them? Logistics i mean
@althalus_52982 жыл бұрын
@oxide how woild i go about sending you ammo i have 2 rounds of 7.62x54r api i would donate
@dylanwight57642 жыл бұрын
Onya Corbin! Hero of the hour!
@cnlbenmc2 жыл бұрын
One thing I don't get is why the US doesn't have a Steel Cored AP round akin to the 7.62mm NATO M61 Black Tip but in 5.56mm NATO considering that even the Military supposedly has to pay $15 a round at minimum for the Tungsten cored M995. They would be more economical vs Hard Targets and body armor plus could more readily use tracer versions. At one point I could have sworn I stumbled across a possible mention of such a round under the 5.56mm NATO article on Wikipedia but it wasn't there when I checked later.
@wisemankugelmemicus17012 жыл бұрын
i have to wonder why you wouldn't shoot the IOTV as a whole with the plates properly installed. Not to be pedantic but it's just not realistic tbh..
@BuffRANGE2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this test. I love how we can build off each other's knowledge!
@Legalizeasbestos2 жыл бұрын
THE KING OF ARMOR DESTRUCTION
@MrCantStopTheRobot2 жыл бұрын
Every now and then, the Internet works as intended
@adamrootfourme38457 ай бұрын
Loved ur 9x39 test video too!
@qwe3042 жыл бұрын
I'm quite pleased with the esapis multi-hit performance, lower end plates have massive cracking from almost any hit, so the very localized containment is impressive imo.
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
Good takeaways in the comments like this give me hope
@qwe3042 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best I've heard that the xsapi might actually use an aluminum plate to help Bond the strike face together, though it is a bit older, I'm wondering how it performs in this aspect.
@anaveragebullet36762 жыл бұрын
@@qwe304 actually if im not mistaken, both the esapi and xsapi use steel crack arrestors embeded in the plates, but seeing that on the tests the plates dont seem to have it, it would seem its rather exclusive to the xsapi line
@cnlbenmc2 жыл бұрын
It probably also comes down to cost and complexity; a complete armor Kit (plate carrier and helmet) and set of plates for a Single US Soldier is supposed to cost Thousands of dollars. Not something you get for a few hundred $ at Ar500 and T-Rex Arms...
@TreeWizard6482 жыл бұрын
@@qwe304 Going Ballistic tested an XSBI (the same thing as XSAPI but a side plate) plate and confirmed that it does have a metal layer.
@user-oy9zy4ds9m2 жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU GET DEPLETED URANIUM 308!?!? 🤣. You’ve done it indie! You’ve found the ark!
@2bidfilmsguy Жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering were in the hell he found brass cased 5.45x39 lol
@TheArgosReed Жыл бұрын
Totally !!!!
@Ivan_I99999 Жыл бұрын
@@2bidfilmsguyPretty sure Hornady makes a 5.45x39 round.
@low_bitrate_detected10 ай бұрын
It belongs in a museum😂
@picklechin27169 ай бұрын
@@Ivan_I99999horny*
@alman55682 жыл бұрын
Love running into you on Squad. Keep up the good work!
@roob14032 жыл бұрын
Love running armor on squad. You guys should try out the Sealz server. Lots of experienced people on there.
@Tokiiplaysguitar2 жыл бұрын
Such a blessing to get multiple armor test vids in such a small amount of time
@theimmortal47182 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration. What you do is important in ways you may or may not consider. The US military doesn't disclose these abilities, but it's important to show the guys who depend on these to save their lives in the military that these plates are trustworthy. Thank you for all you do.
@prfwrx24972 жыл бұрын
IMO, if there's one takeaway, it's that IOTV/BALCS backer doesn't just prevent your torso from being filled with shrapnel, it also provides second chances for multi-hit scenarios.
@AceFalken2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see cross referencing with buffman. would actually be kinda sick to see a full moderated list of armor piercing rounds from independent youtubers. extremely curious on the 12.7x55 and how it could stack up against its American cousins like the straight wall AR-15 cartridges like .458 SOCOM (Even though I doubt you can find a penetrator type bullet. I think you can find some solid rounds somewhere). That reminds me of the eternal wait of a good optimized thumper concept round.
@Burner_1-one2 жыл бұрын
The 12.7x55 have multiple AP loadings, one of which has a 76g sabot like bullet with a solid penetrator (probably made of tungsten, although that is simply an educated guess). Edit: The round I am referring to is the STs-130VPS. Edit 2: 76g is 1,173 grains and the velocity of the projectile is 980 ft/s. Muzzle energy equates to 2,451 ft•lbs according to “Military Technology” issue 7-8 of year 2020 on page 52 at the end of the first paragraph. So the STs-130VPS has a hard penetrator with a lot of ass behind it. I agree that it would be supremely interesting to see it tested against western armor, however, considering that the cartridge and their weapons only entered service fairly recently (the first ShAK-12’s were delivered to the FSB in 2011) I believe that they might prove to be the limit of what Oxide can get his hands on. But I would love to be proven wrong! Source: monch.com/ebooks/military-technology/2020/07hgr2wcm/52/ Edit 3: Ok I appear to have clowned myself pretty damn hard. I didn’t watch the last 30s at first, but it appears that Oxide will be able to get his hands on a 12x55 rifle and cartridge. I am stumped.
@AceFalken2 жыл бұрын
@@Burner_1-one I know it's asking for a lot but would pretty cool to see. With the AP loading statements I was referring to the AR-15 straightwall/ thumper concept loads (.50 beowulf, .458 SOCOM, .450 bushmaster, and more). Primarily because their designs were evaluated by SOCOM that wanted what 9x39mm and now 12.7x55 offer (heavy sub sonic rounds) but because the AR-15 straightwall cartridges didn't get adopted officially nor do they have any (well known) AP loads. I think the Barnes solid loads got banned because of the funny ATF rulings and that was solid brass IIRC and that's been proven to be not so good at armor penetration. I'm aware of the 12.7x55 AP loads. It's just the American competitors just don't have those loads known or publicly available. So we can't get a true comparison but can theoretically guess.
@AceFalken2 жыл бұрын
.500 Phantom and .470 rhino I didn't mention because like the phantom's name it's basically a ghost and legend ( I believe the custom brass making killed it off pretty quickly). interesting rounds though. with commercially and still viable rounds .458 is the closest we have. 26g loads @489 m/s putting out 3,148J is fairly close to some of the loads of 12.7x55mm (similar energy to the Sts130VPS load {AP load} , 76g @295m/s producing 3,307j). .50 Beowulf is actually an outlier to them because alexander arms goes kind of nutty on what they want the round to do (6.5 Grendel having great BC and smaller but comparable to .243) they made the .50 Beowulf a beast. 26g @550m/s producing a hard hitting 3,902 joules. the caveat is that neither .458 or .50 beo are spitzer types or have active loaded AP rounds that I can find. they make a polymer tipped .458 spitzer but none have penetrators. which is the problem because we can only theoretically guess unless a madman makes some customs. a 458 or 50 style SLAP could probably give 12.7x55mm Sts130VPS a run for its money but it doesn't exist and can't really be tested sadly. Note: using the metric system instead of the standard American way because I studied a decent amount of physics and easier for my brain to process joules, grams, and m/s. Also got drunk and probably rambling sorry if i did and this makes no sense
@Burner_1-one2 жыл бұрын
@@AceFalken I had actually never heard of .500 phantom or .470 rhino before, for the same reason that they’re hard to find I guess. Same for the .458 spritzer. Can the spritzer be fired through a regular AR-15 magwell? If the casing is the same as .458 socom (I assume) than the bullet would either have to be super short or it would not fit in said magwells. If it is longer than .458 socom then I would assume that it is meant for AR-10 (7,62x54) sized magwells? I live in Europe and use metric for day-to-day things and for physics and such in uni, but I used imperial here to dodge all of the moaning that usually follow whenever I use metric when discussing cartridges and firearms.
@AceFalken2 жыл бұрын
@@Burner_1-one Sorry must have been a little bit of a mishap meant to reply to the other guy with that last comment. Little confusion on Spitzer is basically how many common bullets are. They come to a fine point. Most common 458 and 50 beowulf loads are flat points (they don't have points). they can't change the length of the round so instead they use a more harsh angle on the bullet to come to the fine point and some times at a slight loss of mass. to have an AP load you'd have to have a Spitzer type bullet. Works the same as the flat noses but more aerodynamic for more range. They do make some Spitzer for both but are pretty rare and have a polymer ballistic tip to help with expansion while hunting. You could in theory make a mold and replace that tip with steel and make a psuedo penetrator but it wouldn't be an AP round like other rounds. more like M855/SS109. more of a barrier defeating bullet than a armor defeating bullet. If it could get an actual tungsten or steel penetrator it would be AP.
@BuffRANGE2 жыл бұрын
This going to be good :)
@cnlbenmc2 жыл бұрын
3:39 Ian McCollum at Forgotten Weapons has an Interesting video with a Russian Firearms Expert on the 9x39mm development that might provide insight.
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
Yes I've posted a card link in this video that points to that one
@AC-sc7we2 жыл бұрын
Dude your production and how efficient you are with dumping info but absorbable at the same time. I don't know why im watching this stuff, but your delivery in everyway keeps me coming back dude. Bravo and mad respect.
@acceptablecasualty53192 жыл бұрын
Dude, another Neotokyo OST enjoyer! Such a good, chill Song. Perfect for testing!
@tacticaltoaster57772 жыл бұрын
I immediately recognized it and got really happy
@Pattamatt19982 жыл бұрын
I thought that's what it was! Great game, great OST
@cnlbenmc2 жыл бұрын
Nice to know that the ESAPI is one tough Plate, lines up with what InRangeTV found with testing an Old SAPI plate that was already damaged, sitting out in a desert junkyard for 10 years and still did well vs a threat it wasn't rated for.
@ussenterprise31562 жыл бұрын
Dude, you videos are still very informative and entertaining as always.
@TheGrandOkami2 жыл бұрын
Noice pfp
@allyk46552 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@PigPharmaceuticals2 жыл бұрын
Recognized that Neotokyo soundtrack two notes in, and it made me very happy. Oxide is truly patrician.
@OperatorVanta2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That 0edit vibes makes me damn happy. Any recognition for Ed Harrison is good in my books
@stawksop2 жыл бұрын
holy shit I probably was around working at the ceradyne facility when those batch of ESAPIs were made, glad to see part of the products I helped make perform well
@waltersobchak39032 жыл бұрын
Oxide thanks for always satisfying my what if thoughts, nowadays it’s more like when than if Tho👀
@grayash8772 жыл бұрын
Good video Oxide! This stuff is really helping me understand more about infantry armor for some stuff I'm writing, so very much appreciated. The kevlar backup made me wonder some things about the IHPS and ECH. They're both primarily polyethylene and block the bullets, but leave lethal deformation. I wonder if a layer of kevlar or titanium backing up the polyethylene would make the helmets super effective. Either way, the ESAPI are definitely way better than the new helm, so I'm glad to see the military has some decent protection. Good stuff!
@KoishiVibin2 жыл бұрын
very hard layer backing the armor is not a good idea IIRC, this can reduce the potential for proper defeating ability, as there is less room to flex further, IHPS showing was questionable for me
@timothy10682 жыл бұрын
Hey Oxide, thanks for giving us informative video and introducing other knowledgeable channels. It is a blessing to subscribe your channel
@sk3tchimdg3t33 Жыл бұрын
This video is honestly awesome not many people with 9/39 on youtube its cool to see not only the ammo type but the awesome vss too
@devanmullins41802 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hadn’t considered this usage of the VSS and it’s variants and it really clears things up since I’ve been seeing them mainly being used to backup a SVD-S in photos. Great armor test I’m glad to see threats that are very real in todays world I know how hard it is to get any of this ammo for the test so this is a treat
@Punisher94192 жыл бұрын
I am surprised it looked like the 9x39 did more damage then the AP 7.62x39. For it's velocity they are pretty good AP rounds. Not much will actually defeat modern body armour anyway. I am looking forward to 12.7x55 though.
@dalejrjunior12982 жыл бұрын
a slower bigger round will pen less but do more blunt trauma theres ur anwser
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
@@dalejrjunior1298 no
@brotherhoodpaladini95322 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best no
@ravenrise3202 жыл бұрын
Im still of the opinion that we havent saw every existing round in current Russian or Chinese service, tried against Western armors. Or. Nor have we saw what might be still under development in Eastern nation arsenals. And some of what is being done in testing here and elsewhere? Are approximations....educated, very well done approxoimations,....but approximations nonetheless, of what we "think" might be in existence, versus how that might fair against the given armor under test. I mean. For example. 7.62x54 alone has had a Hellascious amount of development poured into its 108+year history. With AP, API, and even tungsten and explosive tipped bullets having been tested/ developed for it. And it IS still in general service by a crap ton of countries. Whereas .308 and .30-06 have taken more of a backseat in the one case and been completely declared obsolete in the other case, in the West. So its difficult to say just how .30-06 might perform if it were modernized or developed furthur than its old black tip iteration. Which seems to be the only version of '06 thats around to be tested these days. And .308/7.62x51 itself might still have some room for development. But. Either way. I think one thing that IS being revealed by these tests, is that the smaller caliber cartridges in the 5.56-5.45 line? Have pretty much reached the end of their AP, developmental life. Their speed and flatish shooting at close to medium ranges might be nice? But they just dont have enough bullet mass to deliver the necessary amount of metal to meet the meat, across the board, nowadays.
@dalejrjunior12982 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best huh? u gotta be kidding right? the bigger the round and the slower it moves obv it will do less pen. xd when ur shooting a 50cal projectile at subsonic speeds its kinda ass
@indirect-fire-enjoyer2 жыл бұрын
finally new armor tests! I fucking love your content dude
@jared.p2402 жыл бұрын
That would be quite interesting to see the performance of 12.7x55. This video was very informative and well made! I think you earned a sub
@aryanpashtun4162 жыл бұрын
One time I was hanging out with Flat Range Operator and my ass exploded.
@FlatRangeOperator2 жыл бұрын
Jaysus Christ hahaha
@BlackOpzPenguin2 жыл бұрын
Information is everything. Great stuff dude!
@flightlesschicken77692 жыл бұрын
Buffman R.A.N.G.E. is great! He has some of the only 30 Carbine armor piercing tests I have seen. Out of an AutoMag III no less!
@Shoelaces772 жыл бұрын
Oxide: sorry this this is not too accurate due to some issues Us: We're just happy you blessed us with this video, man Keep up the good work my dude,your effort and hard work is very much appreciated
@Masterafro9992 жыл бұрын
Damn what a tease! I'm totally stoked to see what 12,7x55 would do to body armour. Out of a long and short barrel.
@Nevernotalone2 жыл бұрын
Thank for another great video. Interesting, entertaining, and very informative. Anyone that pays attention to these videos will learn so much.
@airmanautismo.64812 жыл бұрын
Background music goes hard, I'm guessing it's from the Neotokyo OST, maybe? Haven't gotten to the end of the video to see if it's credited.
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
Yes it all is
@underscore_5352 жыл бұрын
glad people still remember it lol
@zemperus16392 жыл бұрын
I am very excited for composite metal foams. A simple foam plate with a silicon carbide tile strike face wrapped in dyneema or similar fibers would do wonders.
@trashcompactorYT2 жыл бұрын
holy fuck I'm so hyped to see the DU round test if we get one
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone recognized it
@qwe3042 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best is it lc/70 marked or is it a reload? there were very few made and all in that year, so its a decent indicator. should have significantly better penetration than even SLAP rounds.
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
@@qwe304 some boomer messed with them so I have to reload. The giveaway is the violet around the primer
@qwe3042 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best I doubt there's any published velocities for that ammo, so you're probably in the dark.
@qwe3042 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best I say just load it hot as you are comfortable with. Also, it's hard to tell from just photos but is the sabot discarding or is it just meant to separate on actual impact?
@zhorazavodskoy66222 жыл бұрын
god damn exactly what I was looking for and what I expected out of these rounds ESAPI is awesome as well!
@lithium17702 жыл бұрын
The new m5 rifle seems like it is meant to overcome common civilian body armor. 💀😐 Please test in future
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
OK
@smokeeater9172 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd be interested to see the new round as well. So far the math doesn't add up to the claims the military is making about its armor penetration capabilities.
@user-oy9zy4ds9m2 жыл бұрын
@@smokeeater917 the m5 will use an m80a1 style exposed tungsten penetrator loaded to 100k or so psi to defeat level 4 armor at extended range. Exposed tungsten supposedly is much more effective against ceramic than tungsten core
@smokeeater9172 жыл бұрын
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m it's only 80,000 psi out of a 13in barrel. The velocity is less than 2600fps. The math isn't there to back up the claim.
@user-oy9zy4ds9m2 жыл бұрын
@@smokeeater917 no supposedly the AP round will be around 100k psi. 80k for standard ball rounds or training. The 80k still send the 135 grain round about 2900 not 2600. The gun is capable of handling up to 120k psi
@nathanswartz51302 жыл бұрын
Buffman is a great channel. I’m glad to see him getting a shoutout.
@lifewithmarleyandjon46162 жыл бұрын
I have been an early subscriber to Buffmans channel. You are completely right. His channel is very under subscribed to. The quality of his videos and the amount of information he provides is substantial. I have been promoting my fellow Michiganders channel for years. I wish I could do more, I hope he gets the recognition he deserves.
@diet_dr.demoncore5 ай бұрын
I rarely watch your videos so I was surprised and delighted by the Neotokyo music
@SirRollAnO2 жыл бұрын
is that Branden Herreras VSS? thats his camera guy/ gunsmith @ 4:38
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
That is Zach yes
@germanwarrabbit2 жыл бұрын
12.7x55 looks like a hell of a round
@lowquality_dng2 жыл бұрын
The NeoTokyo/Ed Harrison tracks in the recent videos fit so well. Cheers and welcome back.
@Cord64_o7 Жыл бұрын
dude those three shots were PERFECT
@Pallium_Industries2 жыл бұрын
For the 12.7 subsonic, i feel like your best bet would be to have only a barrel made for that cartridge. Cheeper than sourcing a ShAK. Good luck man
@qwe3042 жыл бұрын
Would probably be easiest to just load it into a breach loading 50 caliber, but at lower velocity
@kamehamehaX3005 ай бұрын
I got one of these from a boomer running a surplus shop out his property and I’ve never been so thankful for him pointing me in the right direction. “As big as you are you don’t need that little plate carrier only, it won’t fit right, you need this!” He pulled out an IOTV in an XL and fitted me. He even let me have the insert and everything attached for for free, and a ballistic gorget bc it was already attached. I’ll fight for the old man in my armor.
@leek56825 ай бұрын
Not being a gun person myself, I think the 9x39 AP ammo types are some of the coolest rounds in the world
@duceolsen Жыл бұрын
You are the first I've seen with actual 9x39 ap projectiles, is a pity you didn't spend more prep time figuring out an acceptable charge to get closer to 1050fps. This would have also allowed fire-formed brass with a shoulder to work with. If you want a comparison I can send you some of my 365gr cast projectiles to try out, though with that 7" barrel length you'd still be pressed to see 900fps.
@SteveSun892 жыл бұрын
wheres the china plate test video?
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
Delayed for sus
@lardthing74172 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best Amog us reference??????1????1??
@user-bw7nk2lm1x2 жыл бұрын
Отличное видео,но если бы вам удалось достать и протестировать 7н24,7н39 и 7н40.Было бы вообще прекрасно
@ivanrogoz Жыл бұрын
Зачем? и так все ясно, 7н22, черный носик, держит один, два других пробило,один из которых застрял в кевларе, до 7н24 разницы практически нет, 7н40 это патрон повышенной кучности, для меткого бойца из отряда с новым стволом и оптикой, о пробиваемости речи нет.Удивило, что её пробил 7.62\51 бронебойный, надо было отстреливать свежим 7.62\54 б-32 бз, результат интересен, должна держать, но цена плиты и вздутие которое она дает от 7.62\39 бз пипец! Гранит бр5 6а Техинком и Щёлковская будут получше, единственное, наши тяжелее , т к из оксида алюминия.
@olejnik51652 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your Chinese issued plate tests done by you, also is there a possibility like for example in Canada due to Chinese arm export there to test Western plates with Chinese 5.8×42mm?
@REIDAE2 жыл бұрын
5.8X42mm is not exported at all to any country outside of china unfortunately so that is impossible. All export versions of the 5.8X42mm rifles are rechambered in 5.56.
@olejnik51652 жыл бұрын
@@REIDAE Damn that sucks
@Rileysworld7272 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the ASH-12 as its a pretty mysterious weapon to me. I haven't found much good reference on how it works or why it was even invented.
@deltaforce27802 жыл бұрын
ASH12 was made for close quarters anti terror operations for the FSB where they needed to be able to defeat a hostile in armor in one shot without any over penetration, i saw a few videos but i dont have the links to it but its not a common gun, ive never been able to find an actual reference picture of it being used unlike the VSSK which i have seen a few of but its also a rare gun.
@AjackLee42 жыл бұрын
I doubt anyone but the actual Russians are going to get that video out. There are no private sources for those guns at all unlike the ~relatively common VSS and AK12, AK105 etc.
@iMost0672 жыл бұрын
@@deltaforce2780 Well thing is its not even meant to penetrate armor, after Incidents when terrorists were on heavy drugs and just kept going after being shot even if it penetrated armor. Thing desighned in a way to drop anyone down just by force alone
@georgesimmons25172 жыл бұрын
Oxide uploads right as I get off work, Friday made
@tdg7102 жыл бұрын
9x39 BP are pretty badass, so cool to see this in RL.
@rinaldoman3331 Жыл бұрын
It's not BP, BP (7N12) is new round more effective than 9x39 SP6 and PAB-9 in video at least by 10%.
@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia2 жыл бұрын
dude how many firstborns have you got, goddamn
@fullmetaflak2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to throw it out there that I appreciate you using a track from NeoTokyo, love that soundtrack
@dantesfinferno72482 жыл бұрын
Really like the neotokyo ost, great sound. Loved the vid 👌🏻
@tai-bere35002 жыл бұрын
Fucking fascinating. It blows my mind that this content is getting put out by this channel while much larger ones make content half as interesting and well done
@adamrootfourme38457 ай бұрын
Great video! Was scouring the internet for actual 9x39 penetration tests to test the russian's overzealous claims. Great job!!! You read my mind with the 12.7x55 too, would be very interesting to test! Any idea on how the 9x39 AP would compare to subsonic .300 blackout ap when it comes to penetration? Seems the 9x39 has the edge energy wise, but the 300 is thinner and with a better balistic profile?
@Oxide_does_his_best7 ай бұрын
Good question, 9x39 does a better job of breaking up the plate and will penetrate sooner with repeated hits. AIM for the face instead. Your weapon is suppressed either way and likely you’ll have the first shot
@adamrootfourme38457 ай бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best But what if the cheeki breeki ruskie has hard plates duct taped all over his face??? Great vid tho, was great to see the 9x39 compared to others.
@Blaoerry6 ай бұрын
Nice Neotokyo OST BGM, what a choice video overall.
@firefightszz2 жыл бұрын
This is much more relieving then the ihips, glad to know my brother can take most of these rounds (especially since they won’t really be used by most soldiers).
@thedesignerblacksmith5953 Жыл бұрын
I glad that you did bring up the question about why 9x39mm but not 7.62x39 subsonic, but at the end you still can't solve that question. The question isn't anything about the gun but the ammunition alone
@stormlah2 жыл бұрын
"oxide...wheres the full rifle threat - please be quiet" LOL bro
@highestqualitypigiron2 жыл бұрын
ASH 12 is my favourite Russian firearm. I'd love it if you got it on the show
@notsoanonymousmemes94552 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd hear Neotokyo OST as the background song in a gun video, nice
@paytonanthony1308 Жыл бұрын
when an oxide video directly causes an escape from tarkov ammo nerf
@LordDirus0076 ай бұрын
I have ESAPI - REV . E Plates. When I ETS out of the Army Infantry. I had ended up with an Extra Set of Plates. I turned in the Old Plates and kept the New Ones issued for my Afghanistan Deployment. I also have Soft Armor Backing for the Plates. So I am pretty comfortable with the stopping ability. I am literally wearing the same Armor I wore in Afghanistan
@Ws_minion5 ай бұрын
Would love to see the 9x39 rounds against an NIJ lvl 3 plate
@Codemonkey32 жыл бұрын
Neo Tokyo soundtrack. Nice. The first song is Hiroden 651 if anyone is curious.
@java90902 жыл бұрын
Hey Oxide how would you feel about testing civilian plates or European issue plates?
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
Gimme
@inspirationeveryday12 жыл бұрын
Came here from Buffman Range, solid video!
@ToastedWaffles_2 жыл бұрын
my man out here using the Neo Tokyo OST by Ed Harrison? My man's taste in music is great.
@chickenman91842 жыл бұрын
im loving the neotokyo soundtrack usage
@connors5543 Жыл бұрын
AYYYYY never recognized the DUDS' on first watch, interesting to see that its taken at least 6 months to see if they are even legal to shoot
@Kowanza2 жыл бұрын
awww man, Neotokyo soundtrack. Goddamn, havent heard that in a while
@Gorkabandit2 жыл бұрын
Oxide making history again
@faaf_quaaf2 жыл бұрын
was not expecting to hear Neotokyo OST, excellent choice
@novic3292 жыл бұрын
I immediately recognized the neotokyo soundtrack once the video started, I love that ost
@Maximus983512 жыл бұрын
Finalllllly, been waiting for this one!
@Rahmane3158 Жыл бұрын
CIF just around the corner waiting for turn in day to rip you to shreds 👀😂 haha . Great video love to see it 👍🏽
@ADHDAUSTIN2 жыл бұрын
god Im so happy i found you're channel with the altyn helmet video, ik this sounds like a fed question but where do u get all your guns i want cool ass guns aswell
@hollowalla14122 жыл бұрын
Damn I love these kind of videos
@user-mf2gr3cz6e2 жыл бұрын
My prediction would be that those plates would stop all of the ash 12 rounds since theyre subsonic but id be surprised if it stopped the supersonic loading of the vssk
@AlexsEquipmentCorner2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Test, one of my reasons to keep going with the armor stuff, do you know if the Chinese 7.62 AP is similar to the 57-BZ-231 used for VPAM PM9/GOST Class 5A or is it hotter/softer on the plate? Also what ceramic are the rev Hs exactly made of? seemed like SiC to me
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
The round is indeed identical. They're SiC.
@BuffRANGE2 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best Is it SiC or B4C? It seems there's conflicting issues as to what they are made out of. Maybe the newer rev's are Sic? The Rev E didn't have the crack arresstor my "E" did.
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE I’m pretty sure that these are SIC plates. Unless I’m on drugs I don’t think boron gets this silver right?
@BuffRANGE2 жыл бұрын
@@Oxide_does_his_best That I'm not sure. No one has ever been able to give me a definitive answer. My own experience could be just an incorrect observation but Sic doesn't clean up well. Its like it gets embedded into the table and surface it touches. Lots of "dust"/dirtiness. B4C, just wipes right up.
@Oxide_does_his_best2 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE I hate this so much, I’ll test it later and figure it out
@YukarisGearReviews2 жыл бұрын
What do you think is M855A1's performance against RHA like? I've seen estimates of M995 penetrating up to 15mm of steel reliably, but M855A1 is noticeably slower and has a softer penetrator.
@haifai3916 Жыл бұрын
I kept the ESAPI Rev H plates I was issued when I was in. Glad that I made the right decision in keeping them.
@mikeybroyo62302 жыл бұрын
I wonder if pab-9 is still made seeing that it is no longer in service with RUAF
@GrinningHalcyon5 ай бұрын
A bit off topic, but I'm digging the NeoTokyo background music. Ed Harrison is the man
@user-gj2zg1wx7g4 ай бұрын
great review love the vid😄😄😄
2 жыл бұрын
I have an svd and a bunch of 7BZ3 rounds. They go through lvl3 no problem but 4 is a no go.
@humansvd32692 жыл бұрын
I used to have an NDM86. Bought old russian API 54r at a gunshow. Shot it against a commercial lvl 4 plate. It stopped the threat. Shot it at 30 yards. People should have confidence with their lvl 4 plates.
2 жыл бұрын
@@humansvd3269 they do the job 👍🏻
@acr_master55942 жыл бұрын
good to see! that ceramic got less compromised than i had expected!
@stilespoole65202 жыл бұрын
Zach Schaeffer he works for Brandon Herrera the AK guy correct
@paulpaulie2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always. Love the guns and tech
@PA-jw6fo5 ай бұрын
7:46 ... that ink tho! Love it. "дaвaй"
@swojal14936 ай бұрын
Where did you get the vss ammo?
@Oxide_does_his_best6 ай бұрын
Antlantis
@expertrunnerfromproblems3332 жыл бұрын
Love the Neotokyo OST in the background
@tetrahedrontri10 ай бұрын
Does the dude who built the VSS work for Brandon Herrera?
@perfectogaming52405 ай бұрын
Yeah
@aam76702 жыл бұрын
It is Soviet it is 9 mm and it is avtomat kalashnikova it can rip out lungs blast through tanks behold: "The Beast from the East..."
@brittonbehrend71752 жыл бұрын
Good to hear Ed Harrison bangers.
@Orion-ob9ny2 жыл бұрын
I love the ASH-12 I hope you follow up with that, def gonna subscribe so I can see that
@rhinestonepeter2 жыл бұрын
If you get an Ash 12 I will lose my mind. That gun is an absolute beast