PA’s Cilliers on Joburg by-election win, thrashing ANC, sending message to DA

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10 ай бұрын

Despite a recent ratcheting up of “negative campaigning” by its detractors, the Patriotic Alliance is shaping up as a potent force in South African politics - evidenced by yesterday’s comfortable victory over the ANC incumbent in a well contested by-election in Johannesburg. Co-founder Charles Cilliers explains how the victory was crafted, and how it will send a message to the other free enterprise-supporting political parties. Especially the Official opposition, the Democratic Alliance, which also performed well in yesterday’s by-elections, retaining four wards, growing its share of the vote by well into double figures in two of them. Voters are pointing towards a clear path to victory in 2024 for opposition parties - but only if they start behaving in a manner that reflects the enormity of what is at stake for the country. He spoke to Alec Hogg of BizNews.
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Timestamps
01:07 - Charles Cilliers on their candidate in Joburg ward seven
01:39 - On the demographics of their campaign
04:30 - On if this makes any difference in Joburg
07:04 - On mending relation with the DA
13:11 - On the ideal situation for SA post 2024
16:49 - On what the DA has to do to attract the PA back into the Moonshot pact
18:53 - On the sacrifice that is required
19:56 - Conclusion

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@seitswadidikgale2408
@seitswadidikgale2408 10 ай бұрын
Ive never voted in my life but ama vote for PA cum 2024 ... Just want eligal foreigners gone
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
See " Chris Pappas : The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC" Daily Maverick.
@fin2-em2mf
@fin2-em2mf 10 ай бұрын
lol...
@CorreiaBrett
@CorreiaBrett 10 ай бұрын
Smart guy. Asset to the PA
@jonye7511
@jonye7511 10 ай бұрын
It's a mercenary white man behind the scenes. Why can't they do their own thinking?
@viviennearnot
@viviennearnot 10 ай бұрын
💚
@anthoniedevilliers3935
@anthoniedevilliers3935 10 ай бұрын
The opposition parties will cause the down fall of SA, because of their petty differences. If they truly care about SA they should put their petty difference aside and start working together to save SA.
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 10 ай бұрын
Rubbish....Your Bright Matric Boy Steenhuisen want to form a coalition with them...I can't wait to see that fackup....
@Hannodb1961
@Hannodb1961 10 ай бұрын
That is a gross generalization. This is true of _some_ parties, not all.
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
You mean DA right?
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb 10 ай бұрын
Not so in the FF+ they actually have a plan the experience and are now aligned Colourds,Zulus,Boers... I believe the PA could be a opposition and replace the DA as this seems to be the plan with liberal funders (Jews). They have a good campaign model but we know Corne wont swing JHB as black youth won't vote conservative. But the FF+ defiantly has nation wide majority with Colourds and Zulus.
@Hannodb1961
@Hannodb1961 10 ай бұрын
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb I've been FF+ since 1998, and has never regretted my choice yet. If only more Afrikaners realise that in the proportional system, you actually _can_ vote for your values, and there is no need to vote DA just because its the biggest oposition party. Luckilly, after 20 years, it seems like our people are finally but slowly waking up to that fact.
@pb4121020
@pb4121020 10 ай бұрын
Well done to the PA for their good performance in Johannesburg. However their issues with the DA in Knysna and withdrawal from the ruling coalition have greatly prejudiced Knysna ratepayers. The succeeding ANC controlled administration has approved massively inflated and unrealistic property valuations while not being prepared to make any compensatory adjustment in the rates tariff as recommended by National Treasury. Rates are about to increase between 70% and 350% for many property owners which is going to have very negative consequences for the town, actual property values, business activity and employment levels. Perhaps a ratepayers' legal class action, as successfully pursued by Kokstad residents under a very similar set of circumstances, is the way forward.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
Thats the price to pay for voting PA. A vote for the PA is a vote for the anc.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
The DA difference is best seen where the DA governs with a firm mandate. See " Chris Pappas: The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC ", Daily Maverick.
@vleiratfilms2020
@vleiratfilms2020 10 ай бұрын
How to make the best of a totally dysfunctional so called democracy. At least the PA has an element of “non political” thinking. Bottom line remains. Our system is totally unsuited to the situation we find ourselves in. And few seem to recognise this anomaly. So we keep flogging a dead horse. Thank you Alec .. you are encouraging the voices of reason. 🌹
@maseratifittipaldi
@maseratifittipaldi 10 ай бұрын
Flogging a dead horse for sure. Political pleasure and people poverty embedded in design.
@stephstormcrow
@stephstormcrow 10 ай бұрын
The PA fighting with everyone except for the ANC. PA saying we don't like negative campaigning while putting down every party but the ANC
@eldenrossouw314
@eldenrossouw314 10 ай бұрын
You are clearly not a follower of the PA, because we as followers are thoroughly informed and we have heard it all
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
@@eldenrossouw314 So why do you think it's okay for the PA to allow the ANC to run things after all the problems they've caused?
@stephstormcrow
@stephstormcrow 10 ай бұрын
@@eldenrossouw314 I definitely don't support the PA but how that translates to uninformed you will have to explain. This party is not built on policies but on one man and his personality. I don't trust him or his party.
@thabisokekana3704
@thabisokekana3704 10 ай бұрын
@@stephstormcrowthat’s a naive take
@stephstormcrow
@stephstormcrow 10 ай бұрын
@@thabisokekana3704 what specifically is naive about that.
@deejayfloyd2276
@deejayfloyd2276 10 ай бұрын
Leader Cilliers Thank You "Salute Leader"
@Patshes
@Patshes 10 ай бұрын
God will show you the way.
@krishnanaidu6420
@krishnanaidu6420 10 ай бұрын
WE WANT TO SEE A NEW PARTY IN 2024
@dutchpastrychocolatier744
@dutchpastrychocolatier744 10 ай бұрын
Why would all the people that complained before about the ANC suddenly deside to vote for so many smaller parties.Stand together and fight the Dragon,don’t divide people even more! PA,VF and all the small parties should set an alliance with the DA to get the ANC out.Atleast the DA does well with what the government offers them in funds. If they won’t then the ANC and the EFF will be hard to beat especially with the social grants given from the ANC. They will need as much as possible votes and hope people actually vote in SA.
@Michael-hm8cs
@Michael-hm8cs 10 ай бұрын
da = nanny state socialists....hard no from me
@africandestinations5543
@africandestinations5543 10 ай бұрын
Its called the Moonshot alliance. Join with the DA to find out more. Want to see what the DA does? Cape Town as the lowest inequality index of any metropolitan area in South Africa, highest level of job creation, cleanest government lowest crime rates, best education. It is not just about saying how bad the ANC is - we all know that. They have policies that work and get people working.
@Michael-hm8cs
@Michael-hm8cs 10 ай бұрын
@@africandestinations5543 that's funny...I just happened to look at the crime stats and for the last quarter Cape Town CBD precinct rated as the worst precinct in the country for contact crime...DA are socialists taking rates and taxes from the struggling middling classes to "uplift" the poor...while letting the middling classes rot.
@kutlwanontlha7666
@kutlwanontlha7666 10 ай бұрын
Anybody else heard the f bomb? 😂😂 I enjoyed this interview. Well done PA
@quintonprince9783
@quintonprince9783 10 ай бұрын
I find it very disrespectful that some people basically patronizes those who vote for the PA... What is the reasoning behind it and I'm not talking about the lies that some media projects or the old saying of convicted criminals ect... We know what we vote for in the PA. We trust the PA so just respect it.
@jonye7511
@jonye7511 10 ай бұрын
Such a shma when people can't see a con.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
Why do you approve of the PA taking your votes to the ANC?
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
Many people complain about how bad the anc are, yet heres a party that takes peoples votes and gives it back to the anc. You dont think that, along with the many "crimes" these guys perpetuated deserve our scorn?
@viviennearnot
@viviennearnot 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely! 💚💚💚
@Neo_Rain146
@Neo_Rain146 10 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Cilliers tell us what happened to that R3 million Gayton pocketed?
@michaeldeutschmann5992
@michaeldeutschmann5992 10 ай бұрын
what 3million ? and were did it come from?
@powertechnical
@powertechnical 10 ай бұрын
He had a fundraiser for the party but from what I understand the funds were never declared
@eudenegoliath5524
@eudenegoliath5524 10 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video ? typical stupid comments from DA members
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
@@eudenegoliath5524 Where did he answer the question?
@quintonprince9783
@quintonprince9783 10 ай бұрын
Yall so gullible... 🤣 🤣 Believe everything that the media like a bunch of sheep... Unfortunately for you our president told us about this lies and tye problem DA funders have with him... The truth shall prevail in due time...
@dionoliveira4058
@dionoliveira4058 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, some great insights.
@sudamadas344
@sudamadas344 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, its extremly rare to find a servant-leader among politicians. And to be a servant of the people, one needs to have saintly qualities. Such a person rises above all material designations. He is self satisfied, free from envy, self controlled (mind ,body, senses, genitals) and loves the people he represents and serves, cos he sees beyond the body. Has everyones best interests at heart and is completely btoad minded. Able to control the urges of speech, the minds demands, the actions of anger and the urges of the senses.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
See " Chris Pappas : The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC" Daily Maverick.
@MrClivewalley
@MrClivewalley 10 ай бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@jonye7511
@jonye7511 10 ай бұрын
In Africa such a noble person doesn't survive.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
@@jonye7511 See " Chris Pappas: The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC ", Daily Maverick.
@mamotalemankoe3775
@mamotalemankoe3775 10 ай бұрын
There are two politicians in the world, corrupt and self serving politicians and dead politicians. The heroes you dream of rest beneath the soil, slain by their self-serving coworkers. Heroes die in the real world, only corrupt people persist.
@jvh3026
@jvh3026 10 ай бұрын
Well done, fantastic news
@rishigenviranna8080
@rishigenviranna8080 10 ай бұрын
Has a date for the Westbury by-election been announced as yet? It will definitely be an interesting by-election to watch.
@mphoneluvhola3059
@mphoneluvhola3059 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 10 ай бұрын
Charles Cilliers, Explain what happened to the R3 million raised at the Sandton dinner meant for Beaufort West.
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 10 ай бұрын
Why not rather tell us why your Bright Matric Boy Steenhuisen only declared R1.9mill in dotations for the past year....Anyone with one braincell know that is a big lie !!!!
@mannygonzalvers5901
@mannygonzalvers5901 10 ай бұрын
Money was used as stipulated to fix infrastructure There will be a briefing on national news from the PA in September giving full details so hold on
@tribalpeacock
@tribalpeacock 10 ай бұрын
DA must answer what happened to the missing 10 BILLION RANDS from Tshwane! The capital city is falling apart!
@jonye7511
@jonye7511 10 ай бұрын
​@@tribalpeacock😂lame . Try to read more. Don't stop at the allegations.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
​@@tribalpeacockAsk the ANC which is responsible for the irregularities in Tshwane which date back prior to 2016 and also happened more recently when Tshwane was illegally placed under administration by the Gauteng provincial government.
@leroydavids2972
@leroydavids2972 10 ай бұрын
Salute Charles always representing PA in All excellency
@chrisneethling1882
@chrisneethling1882 10 ай бұрын
It is so sad that those of us who love this country and can see how the ANC has failed so dismally, to see this PA guy, attacking the DA as if it is the DAs fault that the country is so messed up. As an ordinary citizen, I couldn't care less what the petty, personal differences are between the various politicians of the various parties. I am only concerned with the main issue - get rid of the ANC. Hey people. Get it together. PLEASE!
@errolmotau927
@errolmotau927 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately the DA is self-destructive & had a great opportunity to transform the country but their short-sightedness & over-inflated egos got the better of their brains.
@george-cohen7954
@george-cohen7954 10 ай бұрын
Third dog steals the bone from the scrapping dogs.
@davidkotze4140
@davidkotze4140 10 ай бұрын
I really hope the DA and PA sort out their petty differences for the sake of our country....seriously guys ...this is a serious situation and only fools and their egos have no time to mess with the situation we find ourselves in...form a coalition please !! Stop playing politics ...our future is hanging in the balance !!..it really is a matter of life and death !! 🙏🙏🙏
@jennychurchill2716
@jennychurchill2716 10 ай бұрын
True, SA will crumble if the Anc are voted back into power next year
@mthulisidube5502
@mthulisidube5502 10 ай бұрын
I just like that a coloured, white and black people are working together in the PA. That is what we want in this country.
@Michael-hm8cs
@Michael-hm8cs 10 ай бұрын
exactly...unity is strength!
@fin2-em2mf
@fin2-em2mf 10 ай бұрын
@@Michael-hm8cs fake racial unity....
@fin2-em2mf
@fin2-em2mf 10 ай бұрын
blacks are forever chasing other races and begging for FAKE racial unity...Gayton will prioritize coloreds and whites...racial unity is only a Myth
@tshepangmoletsane1866
@tshepangmoletsane1866 10 ай бұрын
​@@fin2-em2mfI have been telling our people this for a long time. But our people's skulls are THICK. Their eyes are SHUT. Apartheid 2.0 will shake them up. The coloreds HATE black people more than even Afrikaners🤞🏾🤞🏾 But the Lord will intervene.
@viviennearnot
@viviennearnot 10 ай бұрын
💚💚💚
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
As ActionSA supporter i am happy for PA, and that ANC, EFF and DA have been taught a lesson and this is just the beginning.
@Hannodb1961
@Hannodb1961 10 ай бұрын
DA EFFing cANCer.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
Not sure what the lesson is for the DA since they didnt contest in the JHB ward. If they had contested, im sure the result would have been a lot different.
@Deontjie
@Deontjie 10 ай бұрын
@@ash9744 And the way the PA enticed the DA candidate to pull out on the last day of registration smells like corruption. Ensuring that that the DA could not register a new candidate. If the PA plays this kind of game, then I can not vote for them.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
@@Deontjie I agree and I hope the DA are going to sue the candidate because they spent money to campaign for him.
@florencediallo8340
@florencediallo8340 10 ай бұрын
Action SA, PA, FF+, ACDP, IFP and UIM should form a strong coalition come 2024.
@mkpetrus9138
@mkpetrus9138 10 ай бұрын
DA se vuilgat. Viva PA.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
Viva the ANC's best friend the PA viva!
@ralphsmith2739
@ralphsmith2739 Ай бұрын
Charles Villiers seems like a deeply genuine character. It's time the DA get off their high horse and start talking to other parties on equal terms. Our future is about SA as a whole and not about the DA ego.
@gerritvdmerwe7031
@gerritvdmerwe7031 10 ай бұрын
And then they go into coalition with anc!! So no use!! Just lightweight anc!!
@Fifty-bv8kl
@Fifty-bv8kl 10 ай бұрын
The DA and that moonshot pack must wake up and smell the coffee. Come 2024 me and my community will not make the same mistake we did for the past 20 years to vote DA.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you will vote for the ANC through their sub party called the PA.
@Fifty-bv8kl
@Fifty-bv8kl 10 ай бұрын
@Highlight,but of course,and after election we must take the land please...PA,ANC and EFF can do it.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
@@Fifty-bv8kl you think these parties will take back the land for you? Tell me how they've helped YOU since they came into power? More likely the land will end up on their pockets and you'll still have your hands out asking for the land.
@johannesvanzyl6971
@johannesvanzyl6971 10 ай бұрын
Well done...time to kick them out!
@user-ug5nq9xo7r
@user-ug5nq9xo7r 10 ай бұрын
DA member for 23 years . Gave them 27 cases . They could not help me with one single one . Your will get my an the family vote in 2024 .
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
"Gave them 27 cases"? Of beer?
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
​@@rgee😂😂😂 Good one.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
You clearly are not tired of the corruption and incompetence because a vote for the PA is vote for the anc.
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb 10 ай бұрын
Not a bad choice,consider FF+ they have multi racial approach. Don't see PA taking the country defiantly an opposition.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
See "Chris Pappas: The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC" Daily Maverick.
@davidmcfarlane5873
@davidmcfarlane5873 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the PA hasn't done anything yet.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 10 ай бұрын
THEY ARE BECOMING POPULAR BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE MAJORITY. A FAILURE ON THE SIDE OF THE DA, EFF AND ANC.
@shinaberum3952
@shinaberum3952 10 ай бұрын
You clearly know nothing about the PA Gayton Mckensie did more than any other mayor in the history of this country You just a foolish mouthpiece for biz newz who don’t like the PA
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 10 ай бұрын
Feel free to tell us what your Allmighty White DA has done so far ....
@davidmcfarlane5873
@davidmcfarlane5873 10 ай бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 "My almighty DA",? Who said anything about the DA?Beaufort West under the PA is the most dysfunctional municipality in the WC.2 qualified audits,WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT?
@za_cpt
@za_cpt 10 ай бұрын
@@davidmcfarlane5873it was like this even before the PA came there. We are still voting PA though.
@Straightdeal
@Straightdeal 10 ай бұрын
PA and ActionSA understand the current situation. DA needs a new leader.
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 10 ай бұрын
You don’t understand the current situation either.
@Straightdeal
@Straightdeal 10 ай бұрын
@@christinefinniss6263 So what makes you so wise re the "current situation"?
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
DA must just remain a WC party we are enough of them in Gauteng.
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 10 ай бұрын
@@Straightdeal Are you really interested or just chewing the fat ?
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 10 ай бұрын
@@isoboy1000 . So you believe in a one party province ?
@DebzZi
@DebzZi 10 ай бұрын
I agree about negative campaigning, every time the DA do it, it leaves a vile taste. It is horrible tactic & undoes all positives imo.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
Reporting on the truth = negative campaigning. Look at all the "negative campaigning" the ANC gets in the papers every day and they're still the largest party in SA.
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb 10 ай бұрын
@rgee a liberal party that cannot answer land or the 92 referendum cannot govern. Cape Town white liberals must get over the fact that they manipulated race relations and utterly oppressed a nationals a minority people. Whites will not save white Cape Town nor do we care for anything it puts forward. It's been 50 years and Cape Is utterly hated more than ever, itcan be thankful it's not burnt into the ground. The DA is nothing more than political terrorism. The Afrikaans community will never give the DA a chance again, not will it govern us. That's a promise
@Dasbuda1
@Dasbuda1 10 ай бұрын
Is this a DA marketing podcast 🤔? The way Alec keeps begging everyone 2 work with the DA😂
@thabisokekana3704
@thabisokekana3704 10 ай бұрын
They are dawg 😂😂😂
@biko8229
@biko8229 10 ай бұрын
thought i was the only one noticing this weak moonshot pact podcast😂
@maseratifittipaldi
@maseratifittipaldi 10 ай бұрын
Welcome to this exciting competition folks ! We've got the green shirts ,the red shirts, the yellow ,black and blue shirts all vying for a piece of the action. Up for grabs are grand prizes .Lamborghini's, holidays abroad, couches stuffed with dollars, luxury lifestyles and much more ! Get your shirt together and support your favourite colour! Pay your taxes so your hero can enjoy life to the full!
@charmainefrancis7953
@charmainefrancis7953 10 ай бұрын
@thaboxhalisile1773
@thaboxhalisile1773 10 ай бұрын
To those who are busy asking about 3mil guys wait you will get your answers soon niyevaa ke bantu abakhulu
@karldrogo9765
@karldrogo9765 10 ай бұрын
The DA will not take a lesson or concede a loss here...they have pivoted strategies quite a bit. From the moonshot pact that has lost steam to proposing federalism; leaving the majority vote to narrow their focus to their traditional base to considering and laying the ground work for the ANC back door to the union buildings🤦‍♂️
@nielwilliams4687
@nielwilliams4687 10 ай бұрын
The PA must answer what happened to the R3million from the fund raising. Where is that money ???
@cleroux103
@cleroux103 10 ай бұрын
Wait , all will be revealed by the auditors. Will you then join the PA if all is above board ?
@abrahamsoggop3087
@abrahamsoggop3087 10 ай бұрын
Its PA own money sorry
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 10 ай бұрын
Haha!!! And at the same time your Bright Matric Boy John Steenhuisen try to convince us that the Allmighty DA only received R1.9mill in donations.They can galavan in Ukraine and America....sit more in court than in Parlement...where does the money come from to pay for that??? You must go and do your homework before making a complete fool of yourself.....
@monicakieck7501
@monicakieck7501 10 ай бұрын
Can't believe a convicted criminal can think he can be president 🙄
@FaanBoerseun
@FaanBoerseun 10 ай бұрын
Didn't the Oppenheimers give Steenhuizen R15m?
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 10 ай бұрын
Keeping the ANC in power is not what SA needs. A vote for the PA is a risky and dangerous vote.
@luckymaepa9849
@luckymaepa9849 10 ай бұрын
Which party if not the PA?
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 10 ай бұрын
@@luckymaepa9849 There’s a number of stable and responsible parties that make far more sense. Unless of course you are happy with the ANC being propped up, then the PA is a good choice.
@anthoniedevilliers3935
@anthoniedevilliers3935 10 ай бұрын
I agree, you can't play both sides of the fence and expect the voters to trust you
@vleiratfilms2020
@vleiratfilms2020 10 ай бұрын
Incredible .. you guys all buy into the political story .. it’s a sideshow. South Africa is a failed state .. its people are not. We need to wake up and put our energy into alternative ways to live and govern ourselves.🤔
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 10 ай бұрын
@@vleiratfilms2020 Don’t quite understand your comment, but do agree that the country is in a mess and as long as the ANC is kept in power it will remain that way.
@vut_zarco
@vut_zarco 10 ай бұрын
17:00 The DA will always be big brother. You dear sir need to respect them. The DA will not partner with flip floppers.
@jennyjansen4241
@jennyjansen4241 10 ай бұрын
The D.A.is a egoistic party using other races for their own agenda s,don't talk if u don't live on the Cape Flats,they only care about the leafy suburbs of Cape town,
@lungachamane
@lungachamane 10 ай бұрын
16:10 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@truth-Hurts375
@truth-Hurts375 10 ай бұрын
White DA chest pains !!!!
@etiennecfourie777
@etiennecfourie777 10 ай бұрын
Congrats!! Keep movin an shakin!!
@hendrikbarboritsch7003
@hendrikbarboritsch7003 10 ай бұрын
While Cillers did not answer the Q whether the PA would rather let the ANC win than stop being egotistical, he indirectly answered "Yes!" PS this analysis by TLDR is helpful IMO kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5iIhbV8z6msmIk.html
@mkuluclive3783
@mkuluclive3783 10 ай бұрын
Your vote in the PA is race based. PA will not do well in strong DA wards.
@fazeljaffer3721
@fazeljaffer3721 10 ай бұрын
Charles the PA bribed RARA to withdrew Gayton met with him on the 5th and 7th of June
@JCCrous
@JCCrous 10 ай бұрын
Young inexperienced guy idolizing a bunch of crooks. Very sad.
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
It can't be that all parties are saying the same thing about DA, look at how many prominent leadership has left the party that has come up with divisions within the party by colour even how they serve people out of their constituency is appalling. ARROGANCE WILL BE THEIR FALL.
@Hannodb1961
@Hannodb1961 10 ай бұрын
The FF+ had to deal with it for at least 20 years. They knew they couldnt keep our voters on their liberal humanitarian policies, so they just used their size and peoples ignorance on the electoral system as a negative campaign against us. But lies can get you only so far.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
Sources and evidence please.
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
@@rgee ActionsSA said it Corne Mulder of FF+ said it as well now PA is saying it right now. We don't need more evidence, they have shown us for who they are.
@jswift4163
@jswift4163 10 ай бұрын
Party led by a criminal. Perfectly in line with how things work in SA.
@riagoosen4489
@riagoosen4489 10 ай бұрын
👍
@hansielategan969
@hansielategan969 10 ай бұрын
So when you did something stupid when you were 16 should be held against you forever? I am sure you did something stupid and was just never caught. GGayton was caught and served his time for it.
@jswift4163
@jswift4163 10 ай бұрын
@@hansielategan969 I hear you, although my errors were little boy things and not criminal and according to this man's (Mackenzie) recent shenanigans, he has just learned to be more slick. I know nothing of the candidate Cilliers but I do know that you are known by the company you keep.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
@@hansielategan969 Using your logic, if a convicted paedophile offers to babysit your child/grandchild, I guess you wouldnt mind since that person would have done their time and it should not be held against them forever?
@andrewjosephs9191
@andrewjosephs9191 10 ай бұрын
If we cannot forgive, how do we expect to be forgiven. Sir which unforgiving gods are you bowing to? I love my brother Gayton, because we are connected by the same spirit of the only true living God. Once again, who is your master?
@sean.butterworth
@sean.butterworth 10 ай бұрын
The DA needs to catch a wake up
@la-juanpersens7313
@la-juanpersens7313 10 ай бұрын
Former 6 times DA voter .PA has my vote 2024
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
Why vote for the PA? Just take your vote straight to the ANC since that's where your votes end up anyway.
@powertechnical
@powertechnical 10 ай бұрын
Then you might as well just vote for the ANC
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 10 ай бұрын
@@rgee The DA has failed, they need to wake up to Black lives matter same as White lives. The DA '# cannot use Non White voters so they can take care of their White communities.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
You have been warned, a vote for the PA is a vote for the anc. Johannesburg, Nelson Mandela Bay, Knysna etc is proof of this.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
See " Chris Pappas: The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC" Daily Maverick.
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
Can DA just remain a WC party, since its the only province they care about. WE ARE TIRED, clean audit does't mean you did the job.
@TheZimmer1
@TheZimmer1 10 ай бұрын
You are welcome to your opinion but when you say that a clean audit doesn't mean you did the job, you are only showing that you were educated by the dumbest government and education system on the planet. You're the kind of person that will now highlight the anc's success in not having attained any clean audits. Viva thiefs, viva, burning, viva breaking, viva looting viva to the anc educated, they know not how stupid they are.
@ash9744
@ash9744 10 ай бұрын
Thats for the voters to decide and judging by yesterday's by election results, theres a demand for the DA across the country. In ward 83 in Tshwane they got 72% and in ward 14 in the Steve Tshwete municipality in Mupumalanga, they 96%, so sadly for you, they going nowhere.
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 10 ай бұрын
@@ash9744 Those are white dominated areas as expected no surprise.
@fin2-em2mf
@fin2-em2mf 10 ай бұрын
White people are moving to WC...very soon they will have the numbers...WC is on its way to being owned by whites....watch the space....you are still going to be colonised over and over again....what a shme
@Deontjie
@Deontjie 10 ай бұрын
If the DA controlled Johannesburg for a year, then the streets in Johannesburg would look as good as the streets in Cape Town. A clean audit from our government says a lot of things. And most clean audits are in DA controlled areas. The DA came from the VP and Black Sash. White people who fought against apartheid. While the ANC and the apartheid NP joined up together.
@shaun-andrewnero7111
@shaun-andrewnero7111 10 ай бұрын
The PA is making inroads across racial lines. We are extremely relevant. Thank you Leader Charles Cillier.
@innovruptly1769
@innovruptly1769 10 ай бұрын
When people refer to a Leader, they expose their weakness, incompetence and insecurity. This is the lesson from George Orwell's animal farm. A society that recognises the natural abilities in others need not elevate these individuals to the detriment of others. The application of meritocracy requires people who are humble without aires and graces. Respect is earned. Mr. Cilliers seems to be a refreshing alternative to the biparty ANC/DA coalition. If I am to bare arms, only then will I seek and query the chain of command viz. Leadership. No politician will be my master. imho.
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
You think the PA is for the coloured community or any other community? Is that why they work with the ANC? Just take your vote straight to the ANC since that's where your votes end up anyway.
@jonye7511
@jonye7511 10 ай бұрын
Only in poor and rundown areas among coloureds. Blacks arewatching.
@fin2-em2mf
@fin2-em2mf 10 ай бұрын
lets see who they will prioritize
@MultiRius
@MultiRius 10 ай бұрын
The DA is committing slow suicide and is very successful at it so far.
@shaun-andrewnero7111
@shaun-andrewnero7111 10 ай бұрын
The DA should treat us as equal. We not their beggers.
@garagepie
@garagepie 10 ай бұрын
DA has a track record of excellent service. Its the only thing you should look at.
@vnlpat001
@vnlpat001 10 ай бұрын
@@garagepie You should look at the numbers FFS! And realize that the moonshot pact doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting 50% in 2024 without the PA! You want the ANC back? Cause the facts are the DA have to play to the PA's tune otherwise forget....... (mathematics is telling you this and not me!)
@vnlpat001
@vnlpat001 10 ай бұрын
Exactly bro - they always starting these fights. They fight with the PA. They fight with ActionSA. They also fight with the FF+ ! Yes - Corne Mulder has had big fights with John Steenhuizen. Clear to me who's fault all of it is........ But all the DA shills can do is talk about clean audits and Cape Town. Well - I live in PE but from Cape Town. Let me tell you. Mitchells Plain and Lentegeur - parts of it look like Syria! They screwed the coloureds into oblivion - yet they the ones who have kept the DA in power since they the majority in Cape Town and Western Cape.
@dn822
@dn822 10 ай бұрын
​@@vnlpat001you will get what you vote for. Don't complain then
@rgee
@rgee 10 ай бұрын
@@vnlpat001 We know the PA will work with the ANC in 2024. That's what this is all a test run for. Even Gayton said in his last video with Alec that he made mistakes and is willing to work for SA citizens but then he doesn't actually change anything with how he operates. He carries on working with the ANC. The man says one thing to win people over and then takes their votes all the way to the bloody bank.
@vjb66666
@vjb66666 10 ай бұрын
PA is ANC.
@mikesnyman8346
@mikesnyman8346 9 ай бұрын
Instead of voting for any specific party because they give you a piece of chicken once a year, change your vote in 2024... and YOU CAN BUY YOUR OWN CHICKEN in future...Every day.
@KlipDriftCoke
@KlipDriftCoke 10 ай бұрын
So many victories for the PA and I'm inspired!!! The PA must and will win to create real change🤞🌍and I know they're going to also win in Westbury which will be a big deal. Wow, well done PA🙏🙏🙏
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb 10 ай бұрын
FF+
@jonye7511
@jonye7511 10 ай бұрын
Just more uneducated coloured - not black people being targeted by the PA. What do they do for Black people? I want to see that.
@shopekassie
@shopekassie 10 ай бұрын
It means that these illegal immigrants must start packing. 👌👌💃💃
@nomakhayamaposa2140
@nomakhayamaposa2140 10 ай бұрын
As long as DA is suffering im happy ,pa,anc,eff any of these im good 😂
@TheZimmer1
@TheZimmer1 10 ай бұрын
Here's another fine specimen belonging to the burn, break, steal and loot brigade we have to contend with on a daily basis. Such a shame your anc gave you nothing but the worst education on the planet.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 10 ай бұрын
See " Chris Pappas: The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC" Daily Maverick.
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