AOC member: *Says anything* Devs: We'll keep an eye on it.

I will kill for that Torvald rework right about now

CAN WE FIX HOW CONSOLE PLAYERS CANT MOVE WHILE HAVING THE SCOREBOARD UP ITS SO ANNOYING

I think a chef torvald would be nice, firing meatballs, and his ult being soup or gravy, and when he regens shield, soup should splash. Also this could be in a bp dedicated to champs like and nando who either imo need a buff or just havent gotten a skin in ages

I've never seen a single person complaining about Ash being too strong in any situation. I have no idea why he thinks that nerfing her is a good idea.

DO NOT TOUCH ANDRO'S NETHERSTEP. Sure, take a look at his cards, but leave his dashes alone. It was bullshit that Jenos could take away your entire ability by just looking in your general direction and pressing a button. Jay, you like Raum, think of how it feels when Jenos decides that you're not allowed to move if he feels like it.

Leave my imani alone. With how strong the hitscan champions are, shes finally get some attention and pick rate. She is close to the position where you can actually consider her a good option when placed next to the other damages.

Obliteration on Vora needs to be looked at. More than half of my games I was never cc and dmg immune during this ability. e.g Tyra fire, makoa hook, ...

Mastery Death Cards is something that feels like something the game should have by now. As for the proposed Pip Buff....yeah no. Not only would this cause a huge shift in how he's played, he'd definitely be outclassed by other healers at that point. I'd suggest 2000HP WITH Healing over Time to get it to 2200HP, but not H.O.T by itself.

I got ulted by Vora while playing moji and when I used Magic Barrier i got zero health and couldn't die and didn't respawn in the spawn room but where I was standing also in third person. That needs to be patched my guy.

Atlas Unstable fisure talent is pretty much useless , the only people i see using it are the one who doesnt even have the other talents unlocked, 3 seconds is a really long time , it would be great if the timer its reducen or even eliminated making it a burst damage talent for atlas, while the other 2 are for utility

so this guy wants to nerf the MOBILITY of the FLANKER (andro) instead of damage. LOL. mobility is what makes someone a flanker. reduce his stupid damage and give him mobility where he can dash in and finish off the already wounded target and dashes to get out of there. that's how you make a flanker.

For andro, its not the ability to spam his skills that makes him a pub stomper, its his ammo cards. I know jay that you like it when a character can shoot without having to reload, but andro has four cards in his deck that allows him to regenerate ammo (one of them increasing the max amount of bullets in his gun), making it difficult to catch him while reloading and doesn't reload as often while dueling a different character, giving him an upper hand against the majority of characters in game. In zhins case, viciousness is a strong card, no doubt about that. But its like retaliation. Bad players will feed into it, while good players can abuse the fact that if he doesn't get to use it, he has wasted a card in his loadout in that situation. And while its tougher, its also not impossible to restrain your trigger finger when playing an automatic character against zhin. Besides, reducing the cooldown reduction on the card would just outright kill it, unless I'm not entirely understanding how Chronos affects it. But if something must absolutely be done about it, just add an internal cooldown on the card it self then. That way it can't be "spammed" and still offer a strong effect.

once again, please consider bringing up ally/enemy disconnect notification, its an important basic information in pvp game environment.

There is a bug on console when you start up the game, it auto sets auto buy and game tips

While nerfing his resets would make Androxus easier to punish, that does nothing to change the fact that with two headshots he has a 1 second ttk on all squishies in the game (including Tyra without her DR), and without headshots he still has what amounts to a 1.5 second ttk against all squishies in the game. You could theoretically make an argument that this takes "high skill" to accomplish, but the argument of skill requirement, the way I see it, is an argument made as an excuse to allow overtuned characters to stay overtuned. In order to truly "fix" Androxus, he needs to both be punishable and not deal as much damage in general, not just Cursed Revolver. Many people overlook his base revolver's damage output simply because it has no range and has bullet spread (making it deal no damage at range and making it inconsistent to confirm damage with), but Androxus does 1,444 damage per second at base (1,964 in burst, as the first shot in an engagement is intstant). 1,444 dps is the highest of all the hitscans in the game minus a Vivian in her ultimate (and even then Androxus only loses by 70 damage per second) or a Talus using Overcharge. I've said it before and I will continue to say it again, Androxus needs his left click damage reduced across the board. In exchange for such a heavy nerf to his damage output all over, his left click at base would most certainly need something, I would say a slight (maybe 5-10 units) buff to his range and the removal of it's bullet spread so it's confirmable at range, but not for very much damage, and then reduce the damage of Cursed Revolver to something less stupid. My proposed numbers for the change would be somewhere around 450 damage per shot for base Androxus (1,250 dps consistent, 1,600 in burst) and 500 damage per shot for Cursed Revolver with the talent's inherent longer range retained compared to base Andro (1,000 dps consistent, 1,500 in burst). These changes would put Androxus' damage in line with the other flankers while also making Cursed Revolver not a required talent to run, as Godslayer and Defiant Fist are never ran simply because Androxus' base left click atm is garbage. As for his reset cards, the only one that really needs rework level changes is Watchful (reduce all cooldowns by 10%|10% after eliminations). Watchful as it is provides too easy to confirm a reset for just clicking on people's heads, and as it stands makes it too easy for Androxus to snowball or simply just escape after a kill. Since it also procs off of eliminations it allows Androxus to just poke from range and get his dashes back in a few seconds, leeching off of his team's kills. For Seething Hatred, a simple scaling nerf would suffice as the card needs to be ran at a high level to get your reversal back quickly and also requires at least a second or so of Androxus being vulnerable outside of reversal to get the cooldown back.

Libra needs to relax on Imani, she JUST got a buff and hasn't even for sure found her spot in the meta yet

On the note of what Gabbonet has brought up about Grover, the idea of personal heal range indication has been brought to you before as a QoL improvement to concretely knowing the healing radius instead of relying on the healing tick as an indicator. Please consider bringing up the QoL improvement on ability-related indication like how they add in Terminus ult range indication because it is not as visually cluttered and is such a crucial information to be had.

About Zhin: my Problem with his counter is actually that he can make a hole Evie ult disapear meanwhile a Khan ult goes through. Its inconsistent.

good , *we will keep an eye* on your next video and meeting

Just so you know, your Borderlands Pre-Sequel guides have been helping me out so much! I've been able to start collecting unique weapons thanks to you.

dude its like aoc is playing an entirely different game, some of these have been asked for by seriously nobody

i feel pip is actually good rn his potion is on a really good cd rn and combat is still very good for andro you could make the elim cd a kill cd instead

vora's obliteration is still buggy at some parts of maps that just makes her get stuck and stand on her head (not talking about warder's gate crystal though thats just broken af).

Remove extra clip size card from Andro. And if possible, remove random spread from both Lex and Andro.

Only buff Pip needs is a headshot hitbox nerf.

Yessss. I have never been so excited for a vid

Hi JayFlare, love your videos. You give us reliable information about the game before everyone else does. Unfortunately, none my friends watch your videos. As they don't understand english language. So for some time i've been translating AOC to them(in a clunky text). So i thought that maybe i can work on subtitles for your videos? Although it is new to me, so i don't know how to actually add them, and from what i've heard only owner of the channel can.

That Grohk buff that yago mentioned is what all healer Grohk mains wanted for years

Playing against shalin is annoying as hell a 1300 burst and cripple is just insane specially if you are playing a low hp champ there is nothing you can do against him makes your game unplayable, matchmaking system is weird too like if you r a GM sometimes you get plate players on your team is there anyway to fix or improve matchmaking? Its just pathetic how bad the matchmaking can be...

Imagine talking about nerfing Imani, in like just a couple of weeks after she JUST got her fucking buff. Imagine talking about nerfing Ash, when she hasn't had a goddamn issue in her whole kit. While Vivian still has an infinite duration and charging ult, Strix still has his fire rate (AND IS STILL A GODDAMN INVISIBLE SNIPER) and whatever the FUCK other bugs that Terminus has. You go for, Imani and Ash?!

There needs to be more rewards in paladins, I’ve been playing the game for a long time and there is just nothing to work toward to and it makes the game so boring

Ash nerf????? She is not THAT powerful. Most ppl dont actually know how to use her well enough to consider her needing a nerf . pls dont make her useless again :/

Tell me when they nerf zhin and enough so i can come back to the game Its been 3 months

I think zhin need a nerf on his weapon hitbox shots.

Can we get something done about Atlas' Unstable Fissure? Its like he only has 2 talents

We were able to see our teammates' names with a green highlight but they removed it. What was the purpose? I want it back so bad...

About the Mixer point system coming back, I have 6.2K Mixer points left and bought all the thing you could get with them and id like to know if those remaining points will be converted or not

The death card idea is pretty good, they can take time designing one for each character, then drop them all in an update sometime next year

Can we please make vivian more balanced? I looked at her and thought of two ways we can do so. (Either or both would suffice) 1. Make her hip fire bigger than viktor's and tyra's hip fire box. That way her ads will actually be a viable ability to be used in her kit as well as make it harder for her to win close quarter fights. 2. Either make the ult a temporary tank shredder or do not allow her ult to charge while she has her ult up. That way vivian will not be the overbearing force 24/7 in the match if she cant be killed OR at least when she dies after having her ult up for a while, she will not have another ready as soon as she spawns back in. Thank you for your consideration :)

I thought the ability for andro to dash out of jenos grip was a deliberate change because grip used to shut him down

what exactly would hiding your champion level do for you? if you don't want to be expected to carry for high levels or flamed for low levels, hiding your champ level will just get you flamed for both

Pip buff, potion health 1200, cooldown 6s. - buffs cards, acrobatic piruette, sturdy, rework card up, Pip need card of DR fot mitigate the headshot, your hitbox of head is big.

Are we ever going to get aim assist removed from deployables

Shouldn't the simple balance for Androxus (for now) is to remove his ammo card? If you think about it, the ammo card is highly valued for most pub stomping andro. They even run it at level 5 sometimes

Never tought I am gonna say this. But lian ult need buff. That ult is utterly useless..

Its probably been suggested before but what about adding an indicator for furias beam on solar blessing legendary? i feel like the reason you would want to play cherish over solar blessing is that its easier to use, both for you and your team. I feel like the reason youre often misssing beams on mid and long range is because players cant pinpoint the location of the beam since they cant look behind them and adding an indicator would probably help

@jayflare can we get more gold skins pls? I think tyra and seris ones would be elite, but that's just my opinion

I hope that one day ying will get buffed because her illusions heal for 400 every 1.6 seconds which I think it’s a bit low with life exchange so I hope they buff her one day cause I’m not having fun with ying anymore and I hate that

I would love to see hair trigger brought back, maybe buff bariks health, and change his health card to that, or rework a different card or talent?

When's the next meeting?

More and better rewards for leveling characters.

My problem with Sha Lin wasn’t necessarily the AoE cripple (since I think bringing down the skill floor for Sha Lin is fine given almost all of his abilities rely on aim.) My issue was the additional 300 damage and how Sha Lin in certain circumstances out-damages snipers :/

Early gang

Hey it seems like they changed something so when you ride your mount and then look at the talents and items of everyone, your mount stops. That feels really cruel and not smooth. Why was this changed and can they please revert it? I play on Switch.

As they add more champions balancing each individual one will just get harder and harder.

ABOUT VORA, i've been plaing her a lot rn lvl 34, her DoT takes too long, people get heal pretty easly even undercaut 3 while you are attacking them, the 3rd attack sould also be a bit quicker, the anilation lock of the Rmb is too long, people wait like when koga finish ult. Vora struggle so much against 2 support meta and don't do a lot of pock dmg, those change would be nice i think. For her loadout, all is perfect. ty

For sha just combine the two ideas, direct hit u get the normal cripple duration but if they are hit with the area damage thatn the cripple should be shorter

That grohk buff(spirits domain one) is something I wished for

Is it worth it to comeback to paladins? I left several months ago

Drop Hackers? I've never heard of that tbh. I assume (cause context clues), people can force you to drop? Also, Vora's tendrils really seem finnicky and inconsistent.

Z1 attended but didn't choose a topic... BOSS

Just imagine, everyone having damage output like Vora in order to counter the Burst META? Hahaha. The Burst META might be here to stay

The jenos Luminary rework my idea is keep the damage boost to 10% and increase the healing by an extra 8%

Imani is in a good place right now. Damage fall off is not needed. Since she can no longer bounce ice off of deployables, its not an issue and puts her back to a similar level she was at before. The only thing she needs is cosmetic, her elemental shift is now so fast it looks unnatural. It needs a new animation. Since those are the most expensive fixes, I doubt we will see it :(

Hi Jay, just a proposal for Lex , he still needs love. I think a simple thing in order to make this champ more competitive in ranked is make standard the dmg reduction and Anti-CC for discovery and Death Hasten and extend the dmg reduction and anti CC for 2 second after combat slide, replace heroism with the old talent "The Law Won", another option to make heroism viable is extend DMG and Anti-CC for 2 second after combat slide., I hope you consider this for the next AOC.

Jayflare if you reading this please address the devs of the following bugs because they make the game feel less fun a cheaply made. Missing champions when you load up the game. Flashing screen bug (I think it's caused by the game constantly cycling between the loading screen and the first person view when standing still in spawn before the game starts) when loading into games while in the loading screen that shows people's frames and levels. Bug where it keeps turning on in game tips and auto buy every time I load up the game when I previously turned them off. And fix the physics on ash's shoulder bash because if you shoulder bash and the duration ends right after you go off some surfaces it keeps the momentum going after the ability ended flinging you way too far and leading to some environmental deaths. I play on PS4 btw if that is relevant and if you need more clarification on what these bugs are send a reply and will try to reply in no longer than a day.

Never clicked on a video so fast!

Buff fernando damage

Hey...can you talk to them about matchmaking in rankeds? It doesn't work properly. It's insane that every time you win 1 match, then you have 4 matches in a row with people who don't know how to play or just trolls. At least separate by ranks, like bronze and silver, gold and plat, diamond master and GM.

so the drophack situation finally got some notice eh

God, plz dont let them nerf ash's siege engine card.

Or 3 bans on each side?

Jay please we need that Torvald rework Adanas was speaking at the start of the year.. when are they going to show some love to the grandpa of the game? 😢

why server is laggy??? just cant play

I want to see them buff Pip's mega potion amount I was thinking maybe to 1,400

Looking at how you never dies as Raum, I think we need nerf for this character.

My feeling about makoa is that he has alot of health but can barly do anything with that health , and hooks dont feel rewarding even with pluck , i would love if his pluck talent lowerd his hook timer to a max and a minimum of 8 seconds (regardless of cards) aswell as increase damage but health is lower by a 1000 or something just to balance it out , (nobody would lile a damage champ with 4.5 k hp )

make grohks heal on staff increase over time just like his main weapon

Im seein a lot of Zhin Bans... Is He OP or something, Did something change about him? Why is He getting banned so often recently?

Hey JayFlare, About nerfing androxus, in my opinion, just nerf the base damage on cursed Revolver from 600 to something like 560

Andro nerfs? Z1 and all the andy mains didn't like that

Only your videos are worth watching for Info. Others just waste time

Yess nerf zhin counter card, Words from 186 lvl zhin player

Noooo don't change half shell. :(

(comment that has nothing to do with anything) Ameri-Khan is a emotion support champion change my mind Only emotional tho... Spasifically the Ameri-Khan skin

Jay can you get Jenos stellar wind cooldown reverted. Imagine a 2s cooldown on viktor sprint. It just feels bad

Kill 10 Players with Spite after hitting them with Counter isn't working for me. Am I doing something wrong? Like what DOES WORK? Because me doing what it says isn't. EDIT: The Lian challenge isn't working as well for me and other people.

I Think tiberius needs some adjustment on the movement ability. Everytime i use it i get stuck on, or bump on, on "walls" that doesn't even exist. It feels like his model become bigger and bump on the enviroment everytime. I'm not complaining about the capability to move while in the air cause that would make him basically like buck, but at least not getting stucked on everything. And i feel like i am the only one caring for him. Nobody talks about how trash his movement ability is

Can switch players be able to speak like please

Ash is not op pls stop saying that, her damage on her primary is bad, and her ult helps her kit play better and aggressive so pls stop saying that, and also can u tell them to fix the skins cause I can't listen to certain skin voices

Seris Mortal Reach is better now but it still sucks. There's no reason to pick this talent over soul collector and even if ur playing in a big map there are better long range healers. Mortal Reach Seris is still boring and 'basic'. I recommend reworking the 17% heal tick speed increase -> heal for 1500 but reduce duration of heal from 1.5s->1s. There this talent will be more fun to use now.

Nerfing seething hatred will directly nerf god slayer, and make his cursed revolver even more of a requirement, nerfing cards and base stats is never the option when clearly there's only one legendary that brings problems

I think Vora needs a card where eliminations reduce obliteration cooldown. Not a reduced base cooldown

Be honest mega potion work very well for second support that dealing damage while burst heal backup who far from main medic and combat medic great for solo support so i like this buff pip update...

So I have two suggestions, one is for ranked, how about per each rank you receive an immediate reward like a spray, skin recolor, gold or crystals and the other suggestion, I don't really know how many people complain about bought levels but I think it's possible to calculate the average xp per win or loss and just check how many wins and losses there have been to get people the levels they actually have, that's without counting any 2 xp events they have participated in which would change the numbers a lot but it would still work well to bring down those lvl 200 players that in actuality have like 20 or so levels

So 8th pip buff in a row?

Ash OP? Androxus OP? What the fuck even is this AoC doing? They need to be stopped ASAP!

What about Khan? All his Talents are shitty now specially the Shield and Stun talent.

Zhin, Vivian, Strix and Viktor. I believe these are the strongest / easiest characters to play in the game and still needs nerfing. Viktor did get a nerf which was nice but the damage output he has is still I believe the highest in the game, plus the fact he has headshots which means in a second or 2 he can kill almost any non-tank, and considering he's got an ar he is extremely easy to use. Plus he has a 750 dmg grenade which puts most characters down to 2 bursts from viktor Zhin is ridiculously easy to use as he basically has infinite cooldown reductions plus loads of dmg on his abilities, I have 1v1ed zhins on maybe 500 or less health and not won the battle all because of his abilities. Strix is an invisible sniper. A sniper that you CANNOT see. I understand the idea is great but the fact he can do 1200 damage immediately without you even knowing hes there and then 1 second later he can quick scope and get another shot off it makes fighting him extremely difficult. In many situations he cannot be flanked as before the flank can see him he can get a shot off. Vivian was the result of me leaving the game for a good month. She firstly has a 70 bullet magazine with cards in her loadout giving her close to infinite ammo, she can shoot all she wants without even needing to look how much ammo she does left. She has ridiculous damage and a fast fire rate meaning her dps is extremely high, she has a shield for some reason meaning before you can even get a shot onto her actual body she has already killed you because of how much damage she does. and her booby trap talent. 600 damage for going near and up to 5 seconds of wallhacks thanks to the reveal. She can completely carry a game and make it impossible to win no matter the skill you have. I just dont see the point in her at all in the game