Mmm. Yes how could I forget such a integral part of the grand institute

I always thought it was kind of weird that they never actually got it American to the game even though they did mention that it still existed and had become an isolationist semi fascistic technocracy under the control of a freaking AI, we never did get to see are awesome paratrooping cyborgs, and UGVs.

Comparing the setting and lore in 2142 to Battlefield 2042's "lore" is quite the exaggeration, it is nowhere near as empty, hollow and random as 2042. Although underdeveloped and underbaked is agreeable

@@anarchyandempires5452 Actually not having America in the game was a breath of fresh air. Also wasn't the reason for this that the US has basically ceased to exist as it was swallowed up by the ice age and the US population fled to Mexico.

@@danwhowatches707 2042 seems very realistic though, and not hollow at all

@@anarchyandempires5452 America doesn't have to be in every game

They should remake it.

maybe ... its about time we get a 2143!

This is what got me into BF

Truly.

EU in endwar uses the pew pew orbital lasers. Murrica be like "Why use lasers when we can achieve even more damage dropping metal rods from orbit?" then russia be like "I had this idea when drinking my 20 gallons of vodka, why do we not put a giant vaccum cleaner into bomb, then we have explosion that clean up itself!"

Where is the role reversal though? It's literary "stereotypical USA allies and puppets" vs "stereotypical targets of US propaganda". Meanwhile Endwar puts EU at war with US, something anybody very rarely has the balls to do. Pity that it didn't had the balls to make China one of the belligerents too.

@@TheArklyte cuz there is no US in bf2142?

@@olafjansowidz will it be too much if I ask you to read my comment?

@@TheArklyte your comment is a crap

Huh, just looked it up and the European Union does include the United States of America, for some reason.

@@lionhartjohn1000 If you are looking that up on Wikipedia I'm pretty sure some put that in there as joke to or to win an argument.

@@noneedtoknow07 I agree, there is no logical reason the US would ever be part of the EU, much more likely some sort of North American Union or something like that.

@@73_65 if im not wrong both Australia and the USA join forces Whit the EU since you know.... America is basically a Frozen hell and Australia is going the same route

@@ranbojd1070 Honestly the lore of Battlefield 2142 makes no sense, even today we have the technology to survive the glacial maximum of an ice age, and there is more advanced technology in the game than what we have now. So going to war over warmer parts of the Earth doesnt really make sense since the resources used for that would be better used making things like indoor farms and other similarly useful things.

It's weird when they come up with a setting that should be able to break that paradigm, only to do it anyway. This game did the same, with the EU subbed in for the US; the PAC is basically Russia, with little to no presence by any of their coalition partners. There are no Indians, no Thais, no... (a while later) and no Indonesians. There was almost no attempt to incorporate design language referencing anywhere but Russia. Similarly, the EU basically ignores Africa despite a good chunk of the game taking place there.

In some of the games concept art, it was going to be just the US and China fighting in space actually.

They didn't have the balls to involve China as a faction anymore.

End War brings the European Union (Federation in game) as a faction.

@@janlim0916 Yeah China threw a really big hissy fit over the BF4 campaign from what I remember. As long as the Chinese gaming market is profitable and the Chiese government is such an Orwellian nightmare, they will try not to step on Winnie the Pooh's toes.

No one does, they cancelled promising games to release crap abandoned franchises for absolute failures

@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec EA is a publisher not dev, they don't make games

@@Solaxe they also developed games

6: Equestria - My Little Pony Mythos

7: Candy Kingdom - Adventure Time

Templin should do Academy City - Toaru franchise. could draw on material from the animated series and light novels, its a fascinating setting.

Because people thought EU will be a great power to match the US.. But nope, just another organisation of bixxchez for the yanks to pound

@@crazychinese7315 ironic of you to say having chinese on the name better the yanks than the reds

@@crazychinese7315 Funny but the EU may yet lead the west because it's increasingly looking doubtful the US will be able to get past it's internal problems in the future.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

Really I only know two bf 2142 and end war, there was generals but it never came out, which are the others

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

I was reading online and apparently, the very early version of Battlefield 2142 was leaked online by hackers and originally the game was supposed to have the US faction to appear in the game. That’s why in the game files, all of the classes e.t.c for the EU have US labelled on them and the game was also set to appear on three different planets.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

Which is weird, because the pan-asian coalition is lead by Russia which is not Asian. I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

@@jmgonzales7701 Russia is quite "Asian" in a certain sense, a Russo-Chinese coalition ruling over Asia is not as far fetched as you would think. Russia has had a long history of Eurasianism, especially in recent years, seeing itself as the synthesis of east and west, however with its current shift towards the east, that could easily turn into ‘Asianism’ only. Russia has never been seen as a purely European state, similar to Turkey.

Why spend time to creat so many new models for a new game when you can make a new games with access from all the old games :D

Well, technically, we at least got a prequel in 2042.

But there is nothing from 2142 in Portal.

@@patrickryan1821 maybe they will release a dlc 🤷‍♂️ but there is some easter egg of prototype of vechicles from 2142, since the old school style is not trending anymore, maybe futuristic style will return soon, battlefield 2142 will be back, or a completely new version

@@lamhoang8986 where this corporate trash is involved I have absolutely zero faith that any of that will happen. These CorpoRATS are going to do the absolute bare minimum with the 4 dlc seasons (so they don't get sued) and then let the game die and move on to the next BF game which will likely be a hero shooter.

Wait till we see Russia vs Norway vs the UK get hot and bothered over Arctic shipping routes and resources

That US-China alliance also depends on whether there are deposits under the hotly contested Spratly Island chain becomes worth it (to the Chinese government it appears so).

So back to the medieval style of limited wars over limited regions because no one wants to go all in again.

How about oil corporations fighting the emerging fusion power industry?

Some people think the super powers are on the way out and we're returning to an older world order with regional powers and PMCs. So Blackrock mercenaries in the Balkan fighting Chinese mercenaries.

I think 2142 benefited both from having a more refined version of the gameplay found in Battlefield 2, and of being Dice's most original setting in the whole series, in which they took a lot of liberties with the classes and technology. The current US-Rus war setting, that they have been doing in Battlefield for what feels like forever, was also done in Cod and various other post-cold war stories, but the setting of 2142 is not something I've seen a lot of in the past, especially since it's an incorrect interpretation of what climate change would look like. Maybe if they were to remake this game, it would be cooler if instead it was a story about Earth being knocked out of its orbit around the sun and being gradually ejected from the solar system, which would lead to these events, and ultimately a pretty horrible future.

Yeah my toughtas exactly. I woud really love this game to get remaster or sequel, but based on the resent titles and actinos of DICE, I really dont trust their ability to do it right. 2142 was ahead of its time and captured beatifully and fairly realisically the atmosphere what war would be like in its universe and timeline.

@@NiiRubra Apparently some scientists do think we're about to enter a deep ice age in a couple centuries after this crazy heating/destabilizing spell. So maybe it was right all along

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

@Jan it doesnt make sense, russia is not asian and its a declining power, china how ever has everything to gain and is asian enough to lead asia. No one would like a white man to lead the asian coalition.

will the red star alliance just be ussr

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

Source? It doesn´t make sense for EU to go to Asia for warm territory. Southern Europe is warm, and northern Africa is so much closer and much more practical logistically than Asia. And likely less resistance from a less developed continent. And EU would be extremely outnumbered against the east. Maybe the future totally changes all of this with the ice age and new technology etc. But I think an ice age would be a bigger problem for Russia than it would be for EU, since temperatures in Sibir and northern Russia gets to -40 every year now without ice age. While south Europe is 12-30 all year around. There are just so many logical fallacy´s in this plot, I think that´s the reason they dropped it. But you could be right about western bias to be the good guys, lol. IMO Europe has evolved beyond aggressive invasion / occupation / colonialism. We realized how much we fucked up the world in the past. Such admittance of wrong doings and giving up power is something you will never see from Russia and China. Spain, Portugal, UK were global superpowers at some point in history, but let go of it, understanding that such actions will likely cause perpetual war in the future.

@@MrHAR1B0 I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up. Europe is not benevolent, they didn't wake up one day and said to themselves that colonialism is wrong and we should just let them go. Countries like France and Netherlands wanted their colonies back it just that there were independence movements and kicked their ass. And even in Africa France is controlling the resources of Africa. US invaded the middle east, to say europe evolved colonialism depends, war? probably. But by controlling economics and resources is not counted as colonialism then idk what is. People are shitty, IF you give them power they will be shitty, Just like if you give the previous colonial powers their Super power status back then will just be as shitty as then.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

He also didn't make the connection that Hangar 21 actually takes place in 2042.

@@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172 Indeed that's also quiet an interesting easter egg.

Or a sequel!

At least we got a prequel now. So there hope.

@@nobodyherepal3292 A hopelessly glitchy mess of a sequel.

2042 would've been amazing if Old DICE was making it.. New DICE just lost the vision completely. But it's improving with each patch at least. It's still a _prequel_ to 2142 though.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

Well Theirs Always Hope That They’ll Add 2142 to Portal in a Future Update, Probably After 2042 Is Fully Released.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

@@jmgonzales7701 Not sure I managed to follow your line of thought, first it sounded like you were unhappy with the EU being a faction then near the end it sounds like you were happy about it. I agree the panasian coalition should probably have been china led. Didn't even know they were not suposed to be, they seem to have more asian design.

@@DaDunge oh i am fine about the Eu they deserve to be the strongest out of everyone. My problem is the concept of the pan asia coalition with russia as its head, First russia is not asian, 2nd it is a dwindling power and no one in asia will just follow a white man. 3rd Even a concept of asian coalition is impossible. As an Asian i can tell you that we hate each other, war between us is always possible. Asia pacific alone there is trouble brewing, China, Korea and japan all hate each other. There is also the problem of taiwan out there and the south china see fiasco. This is why the west will always reign supreme. They just have circumstances that arent available in asia.

@@jmgonzales7701 lololol. Every time I come back to watch this video, I am reminded how badly you have a hatred-boner for Russia; copying-&-pasting that same template reply on EVERY THREAD. Your incredibly pro-NATO stance gets more laughable with time, as events continue to unfold...... Do you still think Russia is a has-been power? Or are you starting to wake up to the plot yet? When I inevitably come across this video again in 6 months, you know I'm gonna ask how the G7/NATO is fairing.

It gets even crazier: The 2014 war depicts the US & Russia going hot over a conflict in Iran. They almost did precisely that over the Syrian Civil War, which was also in 2014. They had to tap dance around each other's forces. BF3 ends on a cliffhanger with Dima hiding out in Ukr., as he's being abducted by some special police. There's your Ukr reference too! Not done yet, the US navy came very close to conflict with the PLA navy in 2020; october or november I believe.. But anyway, Gen. Milley had to call his Chinese counterparts to let them know he wasn't gonna attack them (it was just a show of force)

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

Heck Yeah!

According to the debrief of the map "Yellow Knife" they are somewhat powered by diamonds since they are fighting over the last diamond mine available to be used

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

@@jmgonzales7701 China couldn't lead anything effectively though

@@johnwest5957 so as russia

Which would be C&C Renegade, sadly we never got the sequel.

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russia is with them and middle east as well. so i wouldn't say its noodle coalition.

I don’t think they will reboot it since it is canon after all but maybe a sequel

There was mention of other alliances/unions elsewhere in the world, but outside the PAC/EU (and a passing reference to the Union of African States) they never explored them. Honestly the entire setting would have been great for expansion, tons of singleplayer story opportunities as well as expanding the traditional battlefield gameplay to include more factions with asymmetrical equipment in interesting match ups / locales against everyone else.

I think I remember reading that the US suffered with the changing climate and, in a somewhat humorous reversal, found itself begging Mexico to allow its population to cross the border and migrate to the warmer equatorial climate.

@@NiiRubra that would be so stupid, Russia and Europe would freeze way earlier once the ocean currents that bring warm it are disrupted. Not to mention the US already has war wet humid climates in the south, Europe and Russia would die first their weather being already cold, as we saw in the last ice age where Europe and Russia were under Ice sheets while the southern US was livable. China would do much better than Europe and Russia because it's south is similar to the southern US.

@@duitk Well, the world is not supposed to freeze because of climate change either, so that's where these games were at.

@@NiiRubra I know, but the game specifically mentions Earth is entering a new ice age. By that logic Europe and Russia would die first, we know this because we know what the last ice ages looked like.

Is China even a major market for PC and console games? I was under the impression that they're mostly a mobile market.

@@westrim They're also heavily into MMOs and RPG games. The FPS genre never really appealed to most folks in the Far East, probably between existing tensions and the legacy of the Second Sino-Japanese War and World War II's Pacific Theater.

@@jimmyseaver3647 Well why would it? All FPS games are like Americans gunning down Russians or Chinese.

@@Botar48 Yea everybody goes on a tirade about the PRC banning BF4, but never considers what might get this banned.

I do hope the Philippines would choose to be neutral. As war has generally only brought death and destruction to the islands

The Philippines is very close to china geographically and we would be under its sphere of influence (Tbh realistically we are under its influence, lets be honest) and seeing everyone basically fell to Chinese influence, even its long time rivals such as japan and Korea. If the Philippines was under American influence china would make sure to assert itself. can be by force or through economics tbh. I say its only a matter of time before the Philippines joins the pan asian union lead by russia and china.

@@Jose.AFT.Saddul might be impossible to be neutral in that scenarios

@@jmgonzales7701 um you do realize that china is literally intruding on Philippine waters right I mean let's be honest here china likes to steal

@@jmgonzales7701 it's fictional who know

Ditto for the "European Union", completely unbelievable that millennia of diverse cultures in unique relations would ever unify.

I mean it's possible the "pan Asian alliance" is actually just a coalition of small Asian nations extremely economically and politically dependent on China

@@ronaldlennier86 I think it's basically the real life SCO turned into a formal alliance/Codominion of Moscow and Beijing

@@Strettger considering the large industry and influence both nations have and presuming that the UN doesn't exist anymore, the two nations could exert a large amount of influence over the comparatively smaller nations, in a fashion similar to the Warsaw pact.

@@Strettger well honestly the same could be said for a lot of country now and in the past. The concept of nation-state is relatively new in the history of humanity and is a very western concept. For most of our history the concept of nation didn't exist and for some place like in Asia or Africa still don't exist. Who knows how we could define what make a state in a century or two ?

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

I kinda dislike the setting, its kinda wishful thinking and its always russia vs the west or the US yet again. And it doesn't make sense that Russia leads the Pan Asian coalition, tbh it should be china. Russia, not only a has been super power but it is also not even asian, it just doesn't make sense. Thou Pan Asian coalition is kinda a good lore when expanded upon as its very interesting how asian states would solve their problems with each other. EU countries nowadays rarely have any problems so its gonna be easier for them to team up.

True, true.

Same in Europe and look where we are today

yeah its so weird tho i have heard this idea in fiction before something about an "European Union" totally impossible right? makes you wonder Who could have had such an unrealistic idea for a continent Who has been at war for most of its history and its the cause of the worst atrocities mankind has ever done right?

But historically Europe was much more integrated than people think many monarchs of different countries were German they participated in crusades all of royal families married each other in ww1 most of monarches were cousins roman empire influenced all of big empires significantly and they shared greeko roman ideals of civilisation, in east asia there was no Chinese emperor of Japan, China did influence cultures in ea but it also never considered its neighbours human Chinese concept was that han people are only real humans and rest should be slaves or dead so they made tributaries and it pissed of all it's neighbours china bullied its neighbours and they retaliated when given chance and then Japan became westernized and all hell broke loose

They don't have to get along. Look how it's happening right now.