Panasonic Lumix S1 review - BEST pro mirrorless?

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Gordon Laing

Gordon Laing

5 жыл бұрын

In-depth review of Panasonic's full-frame mirrorless, the Lumix S1!
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1:39 - S1 vs G9, size and weight
2:23 - S1 in your hands, build quality
3:22 - the L-mount alliance and lenses
4:43 - sensor
5:19 - stabilisation, scope mode
7:04 - controls, buttons and dials
8:55 - night mode and backlit buttons
9:36 - customising buttons
9:52 - viewfinder
10:39 - screen
11:42 - touch features
12:22 - menu system
13:05 - ports and connectivity
14:12 - wireless, Wifi, Bluetooth
14:48 - card slots
15:34 - battery
16:18 - burst shooting
17:08 - autofocus modes
17:31 - object tracking and animal detection
19:13 - face tracking
19:45 - wakeboarding
20:11 - birds in flight
21:10 - manual focus / linear focusing
22:10 - image quality
23:07 - High Resolution Mode
25:12 - 6K / 4K Photo modes
29:32 - Hybrid Log Gamma / HLG Photo
30:05 - Lumix S1 vs Sony A7 III noise
30:59 - Lumix S1 vs Lumix S1R noise
31:42 - movie menus / brief overview
32:35 - verdict

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@bradleyzimmerman4184
@bradleyzimmerman4184 5 жыл бұрын
An astonishing first in the camera industry! A brand new first generation camera that is truly deserving of praise. One that was created for serious photographers and made without compromise. A healthy dose of serious respect is well deserved for this beast! Can you believe it? Nothing to bitch or complain about. No unbelievable head scratching confusion as to why it does or does not have this or that. (Are you paying attention Canon?) While this may have been a long review for you Mr. Laing, you know it could have been far longer if you covered all it has to offer. Nonetheless, a great review as always. Cheers!
@tomrhardwick
@tomrhardwick 5 жыл бұрын
This video involved a ton of work. A throwaway sentence of yours Gordon, but oh-so-obvious. Excellent. Just what we all needed.
@hakeem-ji
@hakeem-ji 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Gordon, as always. I have pre-ordered S1 and been using it extensively from day one, took it to multiple short trips, and found it very reliable and packed with useful features. Your findings and verdicts are all spot on. Thanks!
@exploregadgets
@exploregadgets 5 жыл бұрын
Best review ! All the details we need . Thank you for your effort
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you're very welcome! Look out for my movie mode review coming soon!
@KyleRebar
@KyleRebar 5 жыл бұрын
This is SO HELPFUL. You clearly explained several functions I've been utterly flummoxed by for months (4k / 6k photo modes) and cleared up some confusion about nebulous stats.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
You're vey welcome! I hope you enjoy my other videos too!
@fiddlegrass
@fiddlegrass 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, Gordon! You’re one of the best camera guys ever!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@theboogieknight8279
@theboogieknight8279 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Could you possibly give a brief preview of your video findings, especially compared with the Z6 and A7 III? Better quality? Better in low-light etc? Thank you!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
@@theboogieknight8279 I haven't tested the Z6 yet so can't say. As for the S1 video quality, wait for my video!
@fxprocc
@fxprocc 2 жыл бұрын
amazing review. love how you actually do what you are talking about. the photostack will be amazing when taking pictures of my little munchkins.
@ccabrita6227
@ccabrita6227 5 жыл бұрын
I´m waiting for more sample vídeos . thanks for your great work .
@TheISiLVERI
@TheISiLVERI 3 жыл бұрын
The most sophisticated and full review on this camera I have seen in the internet. Thank you, Gordon!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ebreckpo6563
@ebreckpo6563 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gordon, for this extensive review of the Panasonic S1. Here my own findings with this camera: I recently purchased the S1 and I am very impressed. I tested the body with a variety of Leica glass (24-90 f/2.8-4.0 SL, 23TL, 18TL) as some adapted Leica M glass through the Leica M adapter L as some Canon glass with the Novoflex adaptor. I even swapped the 24-105 Panasonic L to a Leica CL. My findings so far: Less heavy as the Leica SL with the "kit" lens. The high res viewfinder is even better than the SL viewfinder (regarding resolution) not by far. On both camera's when you are brave/confident enough you can manual focus large aperture lenses without even using the magnification features. I find Panasonic viewfinder a tat more blue than the EVF of the SL (OLED?). Adapting foreign lenses is a viable option but no AF with Canon EOS glass. The Novoflex transmits the focal length (even with zoom lenses) and you can change the f stop. When adapting Canon glass with the same adaptor on the SL sometimes AF works a couple of times than you had to switch to MF/AF so it worked again. My plan is to use Canon tilt shift glass (manual focus). Nikon AF-D (sadly not supported anymore by Nikon mirrorless offerings as the screwdriver motor draws to much power from the camera...) no need for me to purchase a Nikon mirrorless. The Leica M to L adapter does not transmit the M glass 6 bit code, the camera nicely asks you with focal length you are using so it can use this info for exif and the IBIS. Metering works fine even with foreign glass. Using L mount lenses: Leica TL mount glass works on the S1 with decreased resolution (ca 10Mp) as it does with the SL Leica (S)L mount glass works on the S1, even the lens stabilisation seems to work with the camera IBIS. AF speed is a tat faster as the SL (only tested AF-S), some occasional hunting can occur (as with the SL) Image output: The Panasonic S1 output is very nice in JPG as are the RAW files in Lightroom. LR classic/ACR has the inbuild camera profiles in the latest version. The raw files can be severely pushed before disintegrating. In low light the S1 is around one stop better than the Leica SL (from a non scientific standpoint) and you have IBIS. I have the impression I have less CA aberration with adapted glass on the Panasonic (further testing needed). In good light the SL still holds on very well. Regarding AF-C I rarely use it. I still focus my camera's as the Nikon F4. For fast moving stuff I still rely on a DSLR in my case a Nikon D4 in AF-C mode. To my knowledge Panasonic DFD af mode works in the AF-C mode as guessing algorithms are in place. Ergonomics: Although this is very personal... The back rotating switch on top of the camera can have a life on his own. Hence the reason why Panasonic implemented a lock switch! The camera is build to very sturdy standards. The button layout is very well thought out. I had a brief flirt with the G9 a couple of months ago and I liked the layout The tilting screen is a very welcome addition as it enables to take photographs at very low angles. It is even a more discreet option compared to the flippy screens. I am not a videographer so I have no need for a flippy screen and honestly vlogging with this camera unless you consider this part of your workout session... I think they are other offerings available. The menu system follows the Panasonic tradition with an extra layer. Although complex I find it fairly easy to find my way. This camera is complex and I will need several months of use before mastering/tweaking this camera to my needs. As Gordon pointed out this camera eats batteries so I highly recommend an extra one. Still need to fiddle with the in camera power saving options. Do I regret purchasing this camera. No, absolutely not So far it is one of the best mirrorless offerings I have tried out in FF format. What I am currently using: Olympus OM-D M1mkII (m43) Panasonic LX100 (m43) Leica M (FF) yes it is mirrorless as it has an optical viewfinder/rangefinder Leica CL (APS-C) Ricoh GRII Leica SL (FF) Nikon D4 (FF DSLR) Canon 5DMKiv (FF DSLR) I am not going to put a list of previously owned camera's but compared to several other camera's! These are of course my own opinions regarding this camera.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your detailed comments, very interesting, especially about adapting lenses.
@tomrhardwick
@tomrhardwick 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just intrigued as to why you dish out apostrophes to the plural of cameras but not to photographs.
@ebreckpo6563
@ebreckpo6563 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrethedias Sorry but I am a stills photographer so I am not planning to test the video AF features of this camera.
@SkylerKing
@SkylerKing 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't been excited about a new camera for years. As soon as the S1 and S1r were announced, I started checking availability and stashing away cash. I really hope to own the S1r, at some point.
@JonnyBlueChair
@JonnyBlueChair 5 жыл бұрын
Me too! Recon I might be able to afford one in ten years time!!
@coolcat23
@coolcat23 5 жыл бұрын
I also think that the S1(R) are the most interesting among the Sony/Nikon/Canon MILC competition. Try the EVF of the Panasonic, though, if you are coming from optical viewfinders. Some people don't mind it, but while it is better than Fuji's EVFs, it still doesn't come close to offering the same direct experience of an OVF.
@JonnyBlueChair
@JonnyBlueChair 5 жыл бұрын
I've never used anything but mirrorless. The thought of using a DSLR just seems a massive backwards step to me.
@Kelkschiz
@Kelkschiz 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. Love those focus stacking features.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked the demos...
@benpanesar6329
@benpanesar6329 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Gordon you've earned yourself a subscriber !
@TheBabyBobot
@TheBabyBobot 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stupendous review, Gordon! I love how you cover everything, and you keep the fault picking to a minimum and focus more on what the product is actually able to deliver. Many reviewers forget that not a single buyer out there is looking for a magic bullet camera or lens that can achieve aces on all aspects in comparison with other brands and makes, but rather on what the medium of photography is able to allow the device to accomplish from a capability stand point and photographers creativity with the tool. The way I rate a device is on what would be considered its "Bread & Butter", or Very Useable, or Usable, Or Not Usable. That way we focus more on making the most of what makes it shine, and ultimately make us shine as well, and leave the rest of the work to other better cameras or lenses for certain situations and conditions. Keep up the great work. Cheers
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i try and cover everything fairly and consider as many applications / uses as possible. It's harder work, but I think important if you're a reviewer.
@dontipton4570
@dontipton4570 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, completely understand. Appreciate your excellent content!!
@MichaelGerrard
@MichaelGerrard 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon, you are the best camera reviewer. This is the most comprehensive review and very clear. The S1 looks amazing, Panasonic have done a great job for Pros.
@Filmmaker809
@Filmmaker809 5 жыл бұрын
That EVF is incredible. I played with a S1 and was impressed. Out of my price range like most. I have GH5, thinking of getting a GH5S, but I would be interested in seeing the GH6 in 2020.
@dudidorham
@dudidorham 4 жыл бұрын
what an amazing review! thank you very much!
@MacM545
@MacM545 5 жыл бұрын
Quite an interesting camera, and a thorough, informative video
@fourcarb
@fourcarb 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon this is the best-and best reasoned-camera review I’ve ever seen. I can’t imagine how many hours you have in this!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and in answer to your question, it takes me weeks to put these together!
@fourcarb
@fourcarb 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Laing I had no doubt! Would love to have the chance to print for you sometime... www.aboutlight.art
@grumpywiseguy5992
@grumpywiseguy5992 5 жыл бұрын
Personally speaking, I would rather have the rear tilting screen, which keeps the camera view centered on the back of the camera. This camera is obviously not made for Vloggers as a major customer group. The EVF must be incredible with that much resolution. Interesting battery comments. This camera is really competing with the likes of Nikon's D5 and Canon 1DX and the battery capacities of those cameras. This camera must do almost everything better than those systems or there will be little system conversion which I would assume Panasonic is counting on for future sales. With the Leica connection, this is a very premium system cost wise and must reflect that. We are now in a VERY competitive environment in the Pro/Semi Pro marketplace. Every new system has benefits and since Panasonic is last to market, they must do everything better. I don't see enough here to justify moving over and I am not sure I would start with this system. Good review. Regards, from the desert.
@RichardBO9
@RichardBO9 5 жыл бұрын
Exhaustive and informative review. Thanks for your efforts. Does the information on the screen flip when you use the portrait orientation?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great question and I'm annoyed to say I can't remember if it does! I don't think it does, but I'll check and report back the next time I have one in my hands...
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
In-depth review of Panasonic's full-frame mirrorless, the Lumix S1! Check prices at B&H: bhpho.to/2MORySo Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ 1:39 - S1 vs G9, size and weight 2:23 - S1 in your hands, build quality 3:22 - the L-mount alliance and lenses 4:43 - sensor 5:19 - stabilisation, scope mode 7:04 - controls, buttons and dials 8:55 - night mode and backlit buttons 9:36 - customising buttons 9:52 - viewfinder 10:39 - screen 11:42 - touch features 12:22 - menu system 13:05 - ports and connectivity 14:12 - wireless, Wifi, Bluetooth 14:48 - card slots 15:34 - battery 16:18 - burst shooting 17:08 - autofocus modes 17:31 - object tracking and animal detection 19:13 - face tracking 19:45 - wakeboarding 20:11 - birds in flight 21:10 - manual focus / linear focusing 22:10 - image quality 23:07 - High Resolution Mode 25:12 - 6K / 4K Photo modes 29:32 - Hybrid Log Gamma / HLG Photo 30:05 - Lumix S1 vs Sony A7 III noise 30:59 - Lumix S1 vs Lumix S1R noise 31:42 - movie menus / brief overview 32:35 - verdict Filmed with the Sony A6400 and e 24mm: bhpho.to/2CqYrEs Voiceover audio recorded with the Rode NT-USB: bhpho.to/2m8pDAc
@carlosmendoza7423
@carlosmendoza7423 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! A review of this camera for the still photographer!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@GregBlock1
@GregBlock1 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Looking forward to the video features review. I have a question for you. Are you able to set the SS/Gain Operation to Angle/ISO?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great question and I'll find out for sure for my movie mode video. I've just had a quick look in the menus and it's not obvious yet...
@martinsmyth5580
@martinsmyth5580 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Gordon as always.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin!
@toxictabasco
@toxictabasco 5 жыл бұрын
That is one awesome FF camera. Great comprehensive review. You really know your Lumix cameras.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I try and find out everything I can about a camera before I make an in-depth review.
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 5 жыл бұрын
Great in depth review sir .
@jimsjourney3926
@jimsjourney3926 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely review as always, it's quite the camera. the flip out touch screen looks a joy and if I ever upgrade my Panasonic G3, this is the one thank you.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
@2BeLikeChrist
@2BeLikeChrist Жыл бұрын
The Tellytubby was my favorite part of the review, thanks Gordon
@helloianzakharov
@helloianzakharov 5 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous review!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! What a gorgeous comment, much appreciated!
@jurgent
@jurgent 2 ай бұрын
Four years after the facts, I want to thank you for making this video. Last November I came across it by chance. In my search for a full frame camera, I heard that Panasonic also had an offering. I watched this 40 minute video in one go. And when I was thinking about the S1 the next day, I knew exactly how to use the camera. Even though I had never seen an S1 live, let alone held it in my hands. I knew the buttons better then the Sony I had been working with the past 3 years. This is not only due to the fantastic ergonomics of the S1, but also to the very good instructional video. Very well done, and thank you! (An early fifty-something who as a result has now invested so much in L-mount that he may be "doomed" to stay in L-mount for life).
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 2 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Sigma and Panasonic are releasing lots of lenses for L mount
@v3zMedia
@v3zMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon if you had a fresh start what camera body would you start with? After being hands on with all of these body's I'd like to know. I'm currently starting fresh myself.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I'm personally satisfied by APSC as I don't shoot a lot of action in low light. So I'd be weighing up models like the Fujifilm X-T3, X-T30, Sony A6400 etc. If I wanted full-frame, the Sony A7 III is hard to beat as an all-rounder.
@timbosys
@timbosys 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. Looks like and awesome camera.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@rameshpathania9207
@rameshpathania9207 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Review
@Noealz
@Noealz 5 жыл бұрын
Panasonic is pushing way harder than Canon and Nikon does
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I think so here.
@epiieq1
@epiieq1 5 жыл бұрын
Body yes, glass, no. At least what's been announced.
@bjnslc
@bjnslc 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Maybe in a couple of years. For now I'll enjoy my G9 as my preferred compact system camera and my Nikon Z6 with my F-mount lenses and single S-mount zoom. The pricing, especially for the glass on this new system is daunting, and it's fine to talk about a future lens system, but early adopters will have a good wait. The Z6 isn't bad on battery life, and I'm using the menus a lot more that I should in the future. That S1 battery is a beast (as is the camera), but I'll bet the shot count improves with more efficient use of the displays. Frankly the main appeal of the S1 is a more consistent interface compare to my G9. The no-grams-spared body and lens offerings really don't appeal. I do understand that Panasonic is establishing itself as a no-compromise professional camera...except that I know the limitations of DFD and think that falls short of being clearly "best" in FF mirrorless. I hope the system sells well and the line expands to include lenses and bodies I might rationally afford. It's interesting that I got my Panasonic MFT cameras because they borrowed from the UI of Nikon cameras. Now I'd like Nikon to return the favor and model features of Panasonic's UI.
@stevelink21
@stevelink21 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough, detailed review of the S1, Gordon... thank you! As a landscape and product photographer currently using the Fuji X-System, I'm strongly considering going FF because I print large posters, and though my X-T3 with some very sharp Fujinon XF lenses does give good results at 24" x 36", I believe that I could get even better (sharper/more detailed) prints with a FF System. My big conundrum, is deciding between the S1 with the 24-105 f/4 Macro, OR the Nikon Z7 System...although after your video, I now think the S1 (with the High Resolution Mode) would serve me well, and having several more features than the Z7, including the superb Lumix/Sigma/Leica lens options! Thanks again!
@DennisKapatos
@DennisKapatos 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon, your review are seriously thorough - a benchmark for sure. I love all these smart unique features, but I think a lot of people really want raw image files. Also, I am curious to see how reliable the focusing is in more challenging scenarios (such as shallower depth of field and quicker moving subjects).
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll be doing more tests with faster subjects and longer lenses soon.
@robertsoucy9725
@robertsoucy9725 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon,what USB cable are you using with the Atomos?
@mzlphoto945
@mzlphoto945 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, fair review Gordon! I've purchased and been using a Lumix S1 for landscape photography for a few weeks. I am of the opinion that this is the best 35mm solution for landscape photographers right now, especially if they find themselves in less-than-ideal backcountry weather :) I'll put out a full review for landscape photography after a bit more time with it.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you found it useful, and glad you like the camera too!
@mediamannaman
@mediamannaman 5 жыл бұрын
This is as good as any camera review I have ever seen. Great job! Panasonic may be looking for customers to ship over from other brands, but they may also end up cannibalizing their own M43 customers who want to convert to, or add, full frame capability. To that end, when you compare the S1 image quality to other cameras, it may interest quite a few people to see how it compares to the M43r flagships - the G9, the GH5, and the GH5S.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's a good idea, I'll do a G9 comparison.
@GregThurtle
@GregThurtle 5 жыл бұрын
thanks again Gordon for a thorough review and always good to see brighton and it's seagulls. I do love what panasonic are doing with their full frame mirrorless lineup - much more mature than nikon or canon's releases. I do hope the choice to stick the DFD won't hurt them with CAF - in single shot it's great on my g9! Fingers crossed the mirrorless market remains competitive
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg, DFD keeps getting better, I did a video focus pull with the 50mm f1.4 for my upcoming movie mode video and it looks really good.
@matthewlane6958
@matthewlane6958 5 ай бұрын
Great review thank you.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Let's hope for an updated model in the next year!
@AmaxterPlays
@AmaxterPlays 5 жыл бұрын
The initial response to this camera was so strange. Yes, the a7iii is a value king (I own one!) and I know the Nikon system has made a huge leap in video quality with the Z6, but this really does seem like a thoroughly considered, pro-level full frame option from Panasonic with their excellent software and a promising new lens lineup to boot. And that EVF, my is it beautiful! Will be looking forward to see your analysis of AF in the movie part of your review, great video Gordon!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hope you enjoy the movie video coming soon!
@camerone397
@camerone397 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these used, actually, and this review was part of the reason why. I'm upgrading from my trusty decade-old Canon 6D and I'm hoping that I've found the body and system that can last me another decade. The body and handling features you highlighted are really what ended up selling me on this camera. The large top LCD (can't live without it), the backlit buttons (I love astro stuff), the weatherproofing, the sheer build quality...and lord knows I'm getting an upgrade in specs too. Excited to have some semblance of dynamic range, in-body image stabilization, and, by Canon 6D standards, an autofocus system I can finally trust (no more focus-and-recompose, lol), among so many other features (USB-C charging! Dual card slots! On and on). The EVF being that great when going from OVF to EVF was a concern of mine will also be super nice. Thanks for the review Gordon, it was a great overview. Excited for what the next ten years brings for my kit.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs Жыл бұрын
Nice choice! Sigma also has some really good DG DN lenses for the L mount.
@justinonyt
@justinonyt 5 жыл бұрын
L-MOUNT ALLIANCE!✊🏾
@noonsound4894
@noonsound4894 5 жыл бұрын
Super review...👍👍
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 5 жыл бұрын
Usually I watch those reviews you do if cameras I can afford. Even though I couldn't ever dream of affording one of these things I have time to waste at the doctor's, so I'll watch it anyway. 40 minutes off Gordon's soothing voice? Sure!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i hope you enjoy it!
@ryanbanyumili1511
@ryanbanyumili1511 4 жыл бұрын
I want to ask, Is the Panasonic Lumix S1 camera can record using the remote focus Heden?
@mohandassuraj
@mohandassuraj 5 жыл бұрын
Wow ! this seems like a really well thought out pro camera body . Thank you for the review Gordon. has anyone tried using canon lenses with an adapter on this body ?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I have not, sorry!
@kahvac
@kahvac 5 жыл бұрын
It's nice to have a bigger body that I can actually grasp properly..Thank you Panasonic !
@justyjust
@justyjust 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a camera to start doing fashion photography I been looking at the EOS R and the S1, the S1 has everything but I have a gut feeling I should invest in canon glass even though the EOS R isn't up to scratch. What's your thoughts much appreciated, also I can get a steal ofa price for the S1 £1300. Thanks
@itanijewelers3419
@itanijewelers3419 5 жыл бұрын
thank you Gordon
@kimrandall5349
@kimrandall5349 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon what a GREAT WONDERFUL review!! I have this S1, and in my mind it blows away any Sony A7 FF body I have owned so far, in so many ways that are important for PHOTOGRAPHY, Thank you. I just LOVE the image quality out of this S1 and for me vs my prior Sonys, and even a Nikon D750 I had, I just WANT to use THIS Panasonic S1..Unlike the Sonys or Nikon. I guess that's subjective, but this S1 really connects with me. You did a super GREAT job explaining all the features and benefits here. This camera has been out about two weeks now and so far Dr Northrup and his bride, Jared Fro knows nada?, even the DP guys Chris and Jordan who I do enjoy very much, have not even mentioned anything about this great camera here in you-tube land. YET, soon as the Canon EOS R, and the Nikon Zeds came out these guys had reviews out in minutes. Meh! T. Northrup had already bad mouthed these new Pannys WAY back, without even having one in hand, or with final firmware. And mostly about the darn video capabilities vs contrast focus...does every photographer HAVE to be a video guy TOO..who cares!! I believe he said THEN to just SKIP these Panasonics.....NUTS! They so far have missed THIS Panasonic FF boat which are THE most exciting FF camera(s) to come out VS Sony, and even if they do finally do a review on this S1 or S1R, I can't see anyone's review being as in depth and neutral as your review here. WELL DONE, and Thanks...I owe you a coffee! :)
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kim, I agree it's critical to find a camera that connects with you, or you simply won't want to use it, even if it has the best features.
@markschwochow2336
@markschwochow2336 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. 👍
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kelvinzyteng
@kelvinzyteng 5 жыл бұрын
Hopping for manual focus settings coming out for gh5
@Voodoo_Nation
@Voodoo_Nation 5 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for this amazing video, When will we see the video for the movie capabilities? I do have to say I do love my Lumix S1, but I like to learn more about video capabilities and AF and make the handheld stabilization a bit better, its very shaky doing handheld video
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I'm working on it now, so hopefully in about a week.
@Voodoo_Nation
@Voodoo_Nation 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I do have to say I do love my Lumix S1, but I like to learn more about video capabilities and AF and make the handheld stabilization a bit better, its very shaky doing handheld video
@hagentrondheim3675
@hagentrondheim3675 5 жыл бұрын
Super detailed review. I hope PA will come out with a GX9 style L Mount camera in silver or brass together with small pancake prime like the 20mm 1.7 soon. Then I might swap from Sony A7 camp...
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it'll be interesting to see what their third body will be...
@andrear9500
@andrear9500 5 жыл бұрын
Love your long reviews. I wanted to give you 5 thumbs up but it is not possible. thank you very much.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@HuntaDaKilla
@HuntaDaKilla 5 жыл бұрын
I think Panasonic will at some point have to release something similar to the Sony A9, for sports and wildlife. I think for first Gen Full-Frame these cameras seem good. Only slightly weak in continuous auto focus. I am a bit old school and hardly ever use auto focus. Perhaps if I shot Sony I would lol. I am really impressed at the user experience of Panasonic. Such as menus, EVF, button layout and LCD screen. Sensor quality has been really good even on the G9. Great reviews as always.
@klackon1
@klackon1 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Cabral. I was looking at from a different point of view: thinking that they need to provide wildlife/sports photographers with suitable lenses. As a group, we are always the last in line for the lenses we require. From what I have seen, Panasonic appear to have produced better offerings than Canon and Nikon. Had I not bought into Sony (A9 and A7III) I would have been interested - lack of suitable glass aside.
@Serenoj69
@Serenoj69 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see Panny doing this really well. Won't get me out of my m43 heaven and hoping some of its features will find their way in the G9 mark II (especially the EVF) but also the better HiRes mode (correcting ofr movement to some degree).
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'll do more tests on the movement correction of the high res mode.
@CarlosMenciaTT
@CarlosMenciaTT 5 жыл бұрын
That was a really good review
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i tried to cover as much as I could!
@CarlosMenciaTT
@CarlosMenciaTT 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t boring or long winded. Stayed on features just the right amount of time without being boring that’s good work there.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMenciaTT thanks!
@martystern5643
@martystern5643 5 жыл бұрын
Love this camera. Maybe when I get some money for proper glass I can upgrade from Rx10
@Oculus729
@Oculus729 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent comprehensive review. One question. There has been some reporting the S1 includes an exposure ramping function for us time lapse, light to dark, shooters. Is this rumor true? Thanks.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I've not looked into that aspect of it yet, but I will next time I try them!
@Oculus729
@Oculus729 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs thanks for replying. That is more than most do. I look forward to your future answer.
@MotoRich900
@MotoRich900 5 жыл бұрын
I see they took the Night Mode from the Pentax K-1ii playbook
@michalm9199
@michalm9199 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon, thank you for excellent review as always. Currently I am deciding between Panasonic G9 and S1. Do you think that it is better choice to pay more for s1 at this time? I am not Pro and will be using camera mainly for walk arounds, travel and some family events. Don’t have any lenses at this time so I will be buying fresh system. Previously I had Sony A7iii, but didn’t like the colors/output that much. I will mostly do small prints time to time and will be using 2k dell monitor for photography with full adobe coverage
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say only go for full-frame if you need the high ISO performance and don't mind big, heavy lenses. The G9 is highly under-rated and great value right now, plus there's some fantastic M43 lenses - see my guide at www.cameralabs.com/best-micro-four-thirds-lenses/
@michalm9199
@michalm9199 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gordon
@xradrd
@xradrd 4 жыл бұрын
what camera did you end up with? i'm liking the G9 now since it's back at $1,000....hmmmm
@PK-ql5en
@PK-ql5en 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon is the bulb mode programmable on this camera like on some Canon ones? Can I set up the time in bulb mode - e.g I want the shutter to stay open for 2 min can I program it to shut itself after that time?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 жыл бұрын
No sadly not.
@PK-ql5en
@PK-ql5en 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Laing that’s a pity. Thank you for your reply.
@AndySnap
@AndySnap 5 жыл бұрын
An excellent review/overview of this fine camera. It really does seem to be the most 'pro' spec of the recent batch of mirrorless full frame cameras (that's you Canon and Nikon..) and as you point out, needs to be considered as such on size, weight and importantly, price. When a fuller Lumix and Sigma lens range is available, I think the Lumix S is going to be a formidable system, uniquely crossing over into two other manufacturers future cameras and lenses. And let's not forget, Lumix must surely have plans for other full frame L-mount cameras... I'm looking forward to a rangefinder style body, and maybe a 'compact' full frame body too??! Meanwhile, my G9 is keeping me happy.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm interested to see how the system grows.
@vhc7764
@vhc7764 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! The XQD prices are ridiculous and xxxx is gouging consumers IMHO. Is Lumix planning a firmware update to allow the use of a C-Fast or something similar in the XQD slot?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, but I hope so.
@BreaktheMachine
@BreaktheMachine 3 жыл бұрын
Superb video
@coolcat23
@coolcat23 5 жыл бұрын
Judging from your comments, you'd really like the Pentax K-1 (II), apart from its heft (which I like very much). It has excellent ergonomics, fantastic build quality, and a back LCD screen with more degrees of freedom. I tried the S1(R) viewfinders and while they are better than Fuji's, they are still no match for an optical viewfinder even at the battery-hungry 120Hz setting. Panasonic came close to making a really good camera, but there are some weird decisions like enabling super quick adjustments to the viewfinder display size, but making it much slower to adjust viewfinder brightness. That's just backwards.
@rdfilms.
@rdfilms. 4 жыл бұрын
This camera is a BEAST!!!
@lalitjee
@lalitjee 5 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic review Gordon, how about Flash system for this camera-your review.thanks
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sorry, I'm not a flash expert, but Panasonic does have some options.
@LuisGomez-ui2xj
@LuisGomez-ui2xj 5 жыл бұрын
will they use GH5 lenses? adapter? Great video!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No, sadly you can't adapt MFT lenses for them, but even if you could, they'd only use a small part in the middle of the sensor and produce very low res images.
@reg171reg
@reg171reg 5 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot to like. It needs to be good. I won’t be swapping my Sony for it but there are a few features there I wouldn’t mind. It will interesting to see if the market is willing to invest in (essentially) a new system.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, i think they've done a good job here...
@stevenhartwell
@stevenhartwell 5 жыл бұрын
Anxiously awaiting the Video Review Please!!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I'm working on it, but it'll be about a week.
@stevenhartwell
@stevenhartwell 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Great news, SO many I know, including myself, are curious how this camera compares to the Nikon Z6 for video! These 2 cameras really seem to be the top contenders right now for serious video in full frame.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhartwell I really need to get the Z6 in for testing soon.
@marklaurendet1861
@marklaurendet1861 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review, looks like a good camera. I like the fact that they did not include a flippy screen, better for stills and general use, to me anyway.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yes, as much as I like flip screens, this design is faster for general use.
@SuperDigitalMe
@SuperDigitalMe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon, the A7RIV or the S1R? Which one would you choose for photography? The lumix colors are also nice out of the box...
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
If you need continuous AF for video or stills, the Sony is better
@SuperDigitalMe
@SuperDigitalMe 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs No i dont need that....
@unoengborg
@unoengborg 5 жыл бұрын
Also supported by the latest version of Capture One Pro
@Photographicelements
@Photographicelements 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Gordon! Wow long video, but not TL;DR! Thank you for not adding filler like other channels. I watched the entire video and still could watch more. I look forward to the S1 video features and S1R upcoming videos.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, MUCH more to come!
@raredreamfootage
@raredreamfootage 5 жыл бұрын
When the rear LCD's brightness is set to the brightest setting, does it automatically dim?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
No I think if you set it manually, it stays at that level. But you'd have to check, mine's gone back now.
@smallfish1147
@smallfish1147 5 жыл бұрын
Panasonic do a great job.great camera with very fine detail image come out.dfd af with full frame is so nice..but.....it is so heavily and so expensive for me.......
@DmitryBrodsky007
@DmitryBrodsky007 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon when you say it is the best build camera , do you also include Leica SL in your pool Of cameras? I recently shot with SL and can’t imagine anything come close to its build and weather proofness. On a side note I’ve seen used SL bodies down to $2800 in the US. Of course it’s been out for 3.5 years ....
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Good point, no I've not formally compared it to the SL. I've briefly used the SL and yes, it's also a tank!
@codyrobinson22
@codyrobinson22 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon What’s a good adapter to use this lens on S1? www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/647011-USA/Canon_3554B002_EF_100mm_f_2_8L_Macro.html
@alantuttphotography
@alantuttphotography 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Very well done. This seems to be ALMOST perfect. Was very surprised at how noisy the shutter is. Sounds as loud as a mirror clapping about. This could be a dealbreaker on this camera.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
There is a silent shutter too.
@alantuttphotography
@alantuttphotography 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs True, and thanks for reminding me. So far, the only examples of that I've seen have been where folks have pointed out the banding issues with the silent shutter mode, so I'm not sure if that's usable either.
@peterbeyerholm
@peterbeyerholm 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and thorough review as always Gordon - great job. It looks like a superb camera for pros, but for me the G9 is more alluring due to the lower price and weight (especially for the entire system).
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the interesting thing for me was hold the G9 during this review and finding it so much smaller and lighter - it's great value right now too.
@Reyfox1
@Reyfox1 5 жыл бұрын
Love the G9 and what it can do. And the size/weight factor is what got me to M43 (and 4K video).
@Wistbacka
@Wistbacka Жыл бұрын
Can you not angle the screen to the left?
@SebastianForssman
@SebastianForssman 2 жыл бұрын
29:47 - How did you swap between non HLG photo and HLG photo and keep the birds at the exact same place? Did ju just use a mask to simulate the effect?
@bobhanuman65
@bobhanuman65 5 жыл бұрын
does this support the XLR 1 adapter? Any experience tethering to Lightroom?
@mmike855
@mmike855 5 жыл бұрын
It does!
@bobhanuman65
@bobhanuman65 5 жыл бұрын
@@mmike855 Awesome, I just learned how to sync Lightroom Classic and Lightroom CC which I use.
@MotoRich900
@MotoRich900 5 жыл бұрын
Is it built and weather sealed like a Pentax K--1ii. doubtful...can it be washed in a sink or dropped in a river and still work?
@MotoRich900
@MotoRich900 5 жыл бұрын
WTH would I need a speed card for landscape?? Pentax image quality is way better than Nikon, get your facts right @N. D.
@peterpeterson7993
@peterpeterson7993 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review @GordonLaing it makes me feel wee bit better as I was unsure if I've made right choice when I bought this camera :). I was with Nikon for 20 years and I'm shooting portraits (kids in action) and landscapes. This time I've decided to try something different and got S1. To be honest I'm not able to see massive improvement in image/sharpens quality in portraits when compared to D7100 with Tamron lens I use to had... Image there was just perfect!!! I love Hi-res function on S1 it helps landscape photography a lot :). + video - unreal... planing to use it bit more. My problem now is I Can't forget Nikon :( keep comparing it to S1, I'm wonder how Nikon would work in particular situation - it's very annoying. When I've started thinking about upgrading my gear I was aim to buy D850 I thought it would be great camera for me but then I seen S1 and couldn't stop thinking about it. Now when I have it I can't stop thinking about D850. LOL Can you help :) ? I can still return S1 and get D850? Shoud I ?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
If it confuses you more, why not consider the Z7?! I'd suggest renting it and or the D850 to see which you prefer.
@peterpeterson7993
@peterpeterson7993 5 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Z7 still quite expensive £3100 just for the body. Only high mpx camera in my range would be D850 but after more time spended with mirrorless camera not sure if I ever comeback to DSLR. it's like automatic gearbox in the car. Once you us it you'll never go back to manual. Considering extra £1000 for z7...hmm is it worth it? Better lenses selection for Nikon might balance extra money.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterpeterson7993 I agree I'd find it hard to go back to DSLR, but as you say, that's a big price difference! There's also the Sony A7r III for similar high res to consider.
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography 5 жыл бұрын
I am guessing its heavy! I could see how much you were shaking moving the camera around in the establishing shots! I don't think FF is necessary but if I did (or if I was making silly money from photography) this would be a consideration for sure.
@basic-decaf
@basic-decaf 5 жыл бұрын
Great features, but they can't offset the poor resolution. Waiting for Sigma's FF Foveon which was pushed to next year.
@alucardhellsing1037
@alucardhellsing1037 5 жыл бұрын
Is it true that Samsung will be manufacturing the imaging sensor for Panasonic cameras in the near future.
@realshit2214
@realshit2214 5 жыл бұрын
change from minute 29:47 to min 29:53 when he compares two "different images, the birds in the sky, down to the left. they are in the exact same spot on both pictures, how did u took those? xd
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
Well-noticed! This shot was taken in the HLG mode which applies the extended DR to the JPG but not to the RAW (as far as I understand it), so I made a non-HLG version from the RAW as a comparison. It's not a perfect approach by any means as the HLG file can't be viewed properly unless connected directly to an HDR TV, BUT what you see in my video is similar to what you see when you do connect the camera to an HDR TV, so as a demo it's ok!
@dontipton4570
@dontipton4570 5 ай бұрын
Would be great to get a short updated review now that several firmware updates have been released.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 ай бұрын
It could be interesting, but this is getting on now and I'd expect a new version in the next year. The next Panasonic video I'll do is the S5 IIx, which is already a year late for me!
@saiiiiiii1
@saiiiiiii1 5 жыл бұрын
How is the eye af compared to Fuji and Sony when taking portraits?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was comparable at mid to close distances. Sony wins at longest distance. Have a look at my S1R sample images where the one of me used eye detection with the 50mm f1.4: www.cameralabs.com/panasonic-lumix-s1r-review/3/
@vc6218
@vc6218 4 жыл бұрын
Best camera I have ever used. That is coming from a longtime Nikon/Sony user.
@codyrobinson22
@codyrobinson22 5 жыл бұрын
So S1 doesn't have any crop when taking photos just 4k 50/60p crop-what about 24p crop or no crop?
@PhotoVideoTechOz
@PhotoVideoTechOz 5 жыл бұрын
No crop @30p or below
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