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That was the most tasteful joke and jab I've read in a while. Well played🤣

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Did you ever find out the answer to this question?

100% agree! Their camera body design and empowering controls make the user feel in charge, we just cannot rely on contrast autofocus. I would have got the S1 months ago if it had phase detection. PANASONIC, PLEASE TAKE NOTE!

@@adamjaynes1503 yeah the usability of my G9 is miles apart from the mess that A7III menus are. If only they fixed couple of the big lacking things that are missing like proper video autofocus .. the still side seems to be getting there. Allso the Leica TAX lenses do not help Panasonic. Make your own PRO Line without the Leica TAX. perhaps they cannot. Are their hands tied with some contracts with Leica. who knows.

Something to do with Sony not licensing their autofocus system on their sensor to panasonic so i hear.

Even if Sony didn't license out the specific tech, on-sensor phase-detect pixels aren't a new technology and they are all over the place on tons of sensors. It's literally just a partial blackout masking of the pixels. You can always write your own algorithms to handle it... most of the genius behind various systems' AF is in the software, not the mere existence of pixels. I don't see any reason why they couldn't solve it without having to license something.

@Daniel Hughes Assuming you are talking about the standard half-masked pixels for PDAF, then yes, this is true. Because you are basically cutting off half the photosite from absorbing light, you get a worse noise performance relative to that one subpixel. In the early era of mirrorless, this wasn't too bad because PDAF pixels only accounted for 1% of the photosites... but in this era with the AF that has to cover the entire sensor and perform well means AF regions themselves have to be pretty large, that's harder. In theory, Canon's solution with Dual-pixel photosites where instead of masking should be better. You just have two smaller floating bodies in the same subpixel. Minimal impact on noise because you don't sacrifice light absorption on the photosite... but the biggest problem is manufacturing cost. I suspect that Panasonic's DFD has a lot invested in it, so there may be a sunk cost consideration here. The main thing that means that all CDAF will hunt vs. PDAF is the fact that phase differences have signs (negative or positive), whereas contrast differences don't... The theoretical upper limit of CDAF is superior to that of PDAF, but PDAF can work in situations of low contrast as well... and of course, users find the hunting more undesirable, especially in video. A hybrid contrast+phase might well be really good in that it can give you the best of both worlds, but I am not aware of companies exploring this at any large scale.

Sigma doesn't exist to Tony and Chelsea.

Leica has a 90-280 L mount lens but you have to have deep pockets. The Sigma has range extenders of 1.5X and 2X that gives added range.

I have the 100-400 it’s awesome.

I bet time is running out for Panasonic for beeing stubborn like they are. They could have the best featured cameras on the planet if they fixed the lacking AF performance, added more power efficient cpus and made more good non Leica tax lenses.

Brelliace Lack of ip for hybrid autofocus > stubborness. Pretty sure they hear us considering they’ve consistently gave us video features we ask for. Tis the way of business when you have you buy sensors from another company

It’s actually quite ridiculous that he still keeps saying that.

Can you please explain that further?

@@Universal_Craftsman Iso invariance, basically new cameras with good dynamic range can be shot at base iso the boost the exposure in post to get the same image quality

@@jillianangell2570 But why should I do that, if I could shoot at auto ISO, if I shoot at ISO 100 at night I don't have a preview.

@@Universal_Craftsman It's so that you can underexpose to preserve more highlights in extremely contrasty situations.

What?? There is no 70-200mm equivalent f1.8 zoom in existence for mft.

@@ahojahojish Yeah, he meant to say 35 to 100 f 2.8. He applied the two times crop factor to the focal length but not the aperture - which was wrong in the first place. Still he has a point. My 12-60mm (24 - 120 FF) is maybe 4 inches tall, so I know of what he speaks.

Yeah I mistyped that, thanks to those who figured out what I meant. 35-100 f/2.8 zoom, or 70-200 f/2.8 equivalent (in light gathering) or f/5.6 equivalent (in depth of field).

Using MFT for now, I own the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 lens as well. So small & compact, yet such remarkable picture quality...... mesmerizing! 🤯

Yes i agree (same on the A7R3 too)

I've noticed this on few E-Mount lenses

it is definitely so and I am in this region

this camera is also a lot cheaper

@@joaocorreiamedia true and it has a few other minor advantages as well. I guess that's what 2.5 years gets you.

Bear in mind they're looking at JPEGs from the Panasonic, versus probably RAWs from the Sony. Once you factor that in, I think their conclusion that the sharpness is the same is probably right.

Good point- but I think Tony was intending to refer to Panasonic lens, not aftermarket- but that was my takeaway

@@BiggMo I guess, but Tony has never let facts get in way of story.

Rick Koloian 😂

Designing a mount together doesn't make sigma 'aftermarket', I think this is just an oversight on Tony's part

@@BiggMo Sigma is part of the mount alliance, so it isn't any after market party

That's strange, I've used the S5 on a daily basis for 4 months now and I have never experienced that lag...

I havent noticed any lag either.

Whoa. Terrible.

Yeah, that shot right there made me go, "OOF!".

exactly..it might be better if you shook the camera and held down the shutter..

I think he didn’t set it on eyes & head focus

I never cringed before on a focus test...til now @4:54

And makes you think everything's overexposed

@@martinsuen3153 Use histogram/zebras/EV meter for exposure control... regardless of lcd brightness setting on ANY camera. Certainly you're not claiming this Panny S5 gives accurate exposure with a brighter lcd setting... Are you?

@@ctphotographx Nah I'm just complaining about my A7iii's trash LCD, compared with my Z6's, which won't messed around with highlights while adjusting brightness.

@@martinsuen3153 "And makes you think everything's overexposed" a7iii and trash LCD, you are a trash photographer if screen brightness is a exposure control for you. Amateur haha

@@Dar1usz Everyone knows histogram/zebras/EV meter. But if you are comfortable with A7iii's LCD, that might just be what you deserved! Who knows if you're using a phone from 2008 or not, or even with eye issue. I will not judge, for sure.

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Uh, Chelsea, we were using a Panasonic not a Pentax.

Just kidding I'm a total idiot who doesn't even know where he is.

Tony & Chelsea Northrup I love it! People who watched to the end know lol

@@TonyAndChelsea Seems like both Tony and Chelsea will be voting for Biden... Because Birds of a, a, You know, the thing.

The G9 is a superb camera, I have to S5 now but in many ways wish I'd kept the G9.

@@clearlyconfused9194 ok long delay in replying... but why do you say this??

Uhhh, yea! I can be and see corny at the same time. It’s a gift.

I sang that

Mad English TV i don’t know if Sigma or Tamron don’t count as L mount alliance, but they both make super telephoto of to 600mm for l mount

Hi Mark, very surprised to see you here. I have been your subscriber for a long time. Considering to upgrade your camera?

Lei Wang Hi! 😃 Yes, I want to buy a new camera sometime in the future!

Incorrect. It has when this video was released there allready was 100-400 with teleconverters from Sigma.

@shadowofanubis66 L MOUNT ALLIAAAAANCE

A7iii is far better of EOS R

Go for sony a7iii I have hand tested the 3 cameras you mentioned. Sony kills

If you plan on doing any professional video, having owned all 3 I would recommend the S5. 4k 60fps, 10bit 422 internally and 5.9k raw via external recorder. Not to mention as Chelsea pointed out the lcd on a7iii is very difficult to see in day light. I had this experience at a commercial shoot years ago and ultimately sold it because of it. If your only concern is photography then the a7iii or Eos R will work just fine.

Its by design.. they make such features of the camera lacking so they have stuff to be upgraded on the next model.

@@brelliace6425 Probably true, Sony upgrades so frequently and they often iterate on hardware. But I've owned several Sony camera, the RX1, RX100, and RX100 V and used the a7 series - they've consistently had poor LCDs compared to other brands, mainly in terms of contrast and brightness.

Brother Sony cameras are going from heating problem plx observe it

It was cool

Ah, but no screeching car tires around every corner.

I've seen tests that show cropping is as effective as using the teleconverter. Lens sharpness is the key. Panasonic needs a long mm sharp prime. A 500mm F5.6 would be great.

Well I feel like they still focus on filmmakers and not youtubers. And mean people who are trying to shoot movies, short films and stuff like that. You wouldn’t use autofocus there. But That’s just my opinion

@@MalachiSan yep, you are correct....and their focus peaking is tremendous....the AF in the APSC mode looks terrific (good enough for gimbals), and for full frame...just manually focus with focus peaking...or I"m sure if you put it on manual, the tap to focus probably works great to get that initial focus.

Because they don’t know how to PDAF

It's almost like despite the horrific AF, the video features and quality surpasses other brands at the price?

@@thatsreallyamoon yep, I think theyre trying to compete with the Xt4 and a7iii, heck with their prores raw coming in...they can compete with the bmpcc4k and 6k even

Try it at 60fps.

Should be called "autofailfocus"

@@DrummingTmate you shouldn't need to shoot at a higher fps to make it work. That's a lame idea. Yes let me try to film my short film in all 60fps, because that looks the same as 24 or 30 🙄

@@RiceCubeTech I agree with you, but for review purposes a lot of people who shoot video like 60p best so they should know the camera will focus for them.

You mean lack of 🤣

I would be curious what focus mode that was too (meaning focus options. one point? face tracking? etc.)

Its not "might" if you look at the actual specs, the s5 trumps the a7iii in all areas than continuous autofocus in video and tracking fast moving subjects. It beats the a7iii is performance, user experience, video where they failed to mention the huge difference in video output. The song yes can output 4k30, but that's only 8bit 4.2.0 if I'm not mistaken at up to 100mbps. The Panasonic offers 4k30 at 10bit 4.2.2, giving an unbelievable advantage in comparison where you will be able to actually colour grade without the image falling apart. It also offers cinema 4k DCI, ProRes raw through HDMI, anamorphic, etc. In terms of photography they're basically the same, which is not that surprising eeing as no one has really innovated the photography area in quite some time. The Panasonic is definitely better than the a7iii. However time will tell with the a7iv as I suspect that will be pretty darn good.

Jock Turner Dude that camera lacking phase AF means you cant even fly it on a gimbal, it’s useless.

@@VforVallee To you. Not all of us need or use gimbals regularly. There are also work arounds if you are skilled enough, using a gimbal with a follow focus unit. Autofocus can be as much as a friend as it is a crutch. Besides with the S5s 6 1/2 stops of stabilisation. You don't really need a gimbal as it is... Having owned a GH5 for the past few years I have found the images I get from a glide cam to look better anyway. This is also excluding the fact that that's one single use case that you are claiming makes the entire camera useless. Perhaps its useless to you. To many of use who don't rely on autofocus when using video and often manual focus. Its not a big deal. What is a big deal is the a7iiis horrible video codec, 8bit video that falls apart with just the slightest touch when trying to colour grade, although it is subjective, I'm not a big fan of Sony's colours. They're too cool, or I guess surgical, although not a huge issues shooting raw photos, but with the 8bit video it ain't great. Also the general user experience, menus, functionality, lack of customisation, too much time spent in menus. The back screen is both low resolution and horribly dark and hard to view outside. Its prone to over heating. Has only a flip screen, not a fully articulated screen, which can be an issue when using your treasured gimbal. Despite these flaws, and reasons I personally haven't liked the a7iii, it is still a freaking awesome camera and I can see why it's so popular. Just at this point the Panasonic is objectively better, excluding continuous autofocus.

Jock Turner “Lack of customization” “8bit color codec falls apart after the slightest touch” “Can’t see the screen” Dude you’ve never used this camera, trust me none of those things are true, not even in the slightest. I love that 8 bit is this thing Panasonic users parrot when comparing the two but then they go and upload their stuff online which, guess what, compressed everything down to 8bit 😂. That bit in this video where she can’t see the screen it’s too dim, I think her brain is too dim, you literally just turn on sunny mode and if you can’t see it outdoors you’re blind. The menus are so easy to use it’s mind blowing people coming from other systems get lost in them, oh wait, nvm they’re lost cause they’re coming from another system! And no, as good as the ibis is in that thing it would never compare to a gimbal! You serious!? And no follow focus systems are absolutely not a solution to having terrible AF, these mirrorless cameras use focus by wire lenses which render a follow focus system useless, because focus pulling is not repeatable using these lenses, not to mention how ridiculously cumbersome that is to use (having used one on many shoots with Cine Lenses believe me I know). Bottom line, if you’re worried about 10bit vs 8bit and codec quality and using a dedicated focus pulling system with cine lenses, I feel like you should straight up just buy a cine camera, because the step up from 8bit to 10bit and 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 are so minute and once you hit upload to KZfaq none of it matters anyways, so you must be shooting for broadcasting or television I would assume, which again, these prosumer mirrorless bodies aren’t for that. I need a camera I can operate by myself. Run and gun style. This is why AF is so important. But like you said it’s all subjective.

@@VforVallee @VforVallee I'm glad that is what you need it for and how you use it. Not an attack on your preference of camera, mate. You like and value the features that the a7iii provides. As I mentioned in my previous comment it is a bloody good camera. However for my needs and preferences it's not my preferred device. I have indeed used an a7iii, having shot a music video where on production we used my gh5, an a7iii and an Arri Amira. Of the 3 cameras, of course the amira was the best experience, however extremely heavy and a few shots it was not viable. When comparing colour science, the overall look of the image in comparison to the Amira the gh5 was by far the best. With a more robust codec, better colours. When shooting with it, the owner of the a7iii was our camera operator for the day even admitted that he would consider moving to the Lumix because it was much easier, quicker and smarter to operate. All important functions were quick to select on the go, the screen was way better and over all camera options were better. I also go shooting photos regularly with a friend who uses an a7iii and often find it hard to view his images on his display outside, when compared to my gh5 which I can see easily. We all have use cases and needs. The Panasonic have always filled my needs to the T. I don't need autofocus, I have always been trained to manual focus and know how to work around it. You prefer solid autofocus and quality video output. I prefer robust codecs and a camera that isn't prone to overheating, with great stabilisation and generally a camera the is prepared almost every situation I put it in. At the end of the day. My first statement still stands. Objectively, the s5 is better than the a7iii, other than auto focus. Whether or not that means the camera is useful for your needs or not is irrelevant. The camera doesn't fit into your needs and workflow the way the a7iii does. That's great, it's a killer camera and very well deserves its acclaim. But you are trying to tell me that a camera that fills my needs and gets me inspired to shoot and create is useless. Frankly you don't really have any say in that, because it's not useless... Also, I just had a look at you channel because I thought you looked familiar. I have watched a few videos in the past, and I must say, you make great content :) stay safe

and dancer!

Depth of field literally has nothing to do with a particular camera body......it's all just sensor size, focal length of the lens, distance to your subject, and f-stop

Something weird was going on here. Even my tiny old GX80 has way better tracking.

@@thedondeluxe6941 Yes I think so. In dpreviews vid it looks a lot better.

Could be lighting, my g9 has very usable c-af even with an olympus lens

Yes, you can if you can find it in the menu which you can't see in the bright sunlight!

@@jwzerbe Then brighten it in viewfinder.

state of the art my ass xD

the autofocus is pretty horrible :D