Panasonic RQ-DP7 portable DCC player unboxing & test

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VWestlife

VWestlife

6 жыл бұрын

Trying out a portable Digital Compact Cassette player that has been in the original box, never opened since 1993 or 1994!

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@DRDCC
@DRDCC 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. As much as this hurts my stomach, seeing you open this mint player (opening a anything sealed dcc is painful to watch hahaha) , I understand you wanting to use it. I am glad the Panasonic is working, but It might not work very long. The belt in the first generation players need replacing at some point. If the player ever fails, we can replace it for you, or you can do it as well, possibly with some help of our video, replacing the belt on a Philips DCC130. The players are 100% identical on the inside. The Panasonic has this beautiful door. If you send me the battery, we can refurbish that for you as well.
@MrJeroendemuzikant
@MrJeroendemuzikant 6 жыл бұрын
Still great to see that it still works after all those years. And eh, yeah, he said that about the battery and you in the video. :)
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 6 жыл бұрын
Is the RQ-DP7 Panasonic's first generation DCC player? From what you've told me, Philips made a few more generations of portable DCC player, did Panasonic also make more portable players after this one?
@DRDCC
@DRDCC 6 жыл бұрын
Philips made, the DCC134, DCC170 and DCC175 after that. Marantz the 601. Panasonic made one more portable player after the first gen.. The RQ-DR9.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 6 жыл бұрын
Would I be correct in assuming the RQ-DR9 can record to tape? It seems like there were not very many portable DCC players made. I believe Marantz were related to Phillips in some way, so I suppose it's not surprising they made DCC players.
@DRDCC
@DRDCC 6 жыл бұрын
Yes except for the DCC134 all second generation players are able to record. Marantz designed the second generation for Philips. We believe in total 8 different portables we produced. Proto-types not included.
@superotterboy7937
@superotterboy7937 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful machine! So glad to see it finally escape it's box and show us what it can do! The fact everything apart from the battery still works after 25 years is testament to the craftsmanship of the time. Even through the video it looks like a quality piece of tech compared with much of the junk made today. Thanks for saving this little machine.
@soportetecnicohigoversomas3451
@soportetecnicohigoversomas3451 6 жыл бұрын
“Normally I think unboxing videos are stupid” What a great way to start the video, I love this channel
@R0n8urgundy
@R0n8urgundy 6 жыл бұрын
From what I remember MiniDisc did very well in the UK, most people I went to college with in 95 were rocking MD portables and my mate even had an MD head unit in his car.
@daviddanser7801
@daviddanser7801 4 жыл бұрын
there is something so satisfying about taking something out of the box that is brand new but 20+ years old never used. New Old Stock is awesome
@miked4377
@miked4377 5 жыл бұрын
unboxing retro computer and electronics is never stupid....it is a labor of love...
@amritavaroy2778
@amritavaroy2778 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, both analogue and digital cassettes sound equally good in this device. You're a lucky guy.
@Trance88
@Trance88 6 жыл бұрын
Man! This thing sounds perfect on both ACC and DCC tapes!! I really want to seek out one of these. It's like the ultimate walkman.
@gregkarris6869
@gregkarris6869 6 жыл бұрын
Theres nothing like NOS (New Old Stock). Nice find...
@polam12
@polam12 6 жыл бұрын
This player was made in 1993 ;) The date is hidden in serial number, all the Matsushita products have manufacturing date in serial number.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, the sampler being a GRP compilation is actually unexpectedly cool! If it DID included the top hits of the time, it would be so boring and obvious: The kind of stuff that would have ended up in the trash long ago if it was on a CD or cassette.
@urbanodagrippino8433
@urbanodagrippino8433 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to find unboxed objects
@EgoShredder
@EgoShredder 6 жыл бұрын
In the UK where I live, MiniDisc was the only one promoted in the city music stores. To find any DCC machines you had to look in more specialist magazines like Sound On Sound.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this! Thank you! A video of the rebuilding of that battery would be splendid!
@DRDCC
@DRDCC 6 жыл бұрын
We are actually releasing a video on rebuilding them this week. We did not even know Kevin had purchased this player, otherwise it could have been part of it as well.
@linusevosonic
@linusevosonic 6 жыл бұрын
In Europe Minidisc wasn’t a complete failure many people used it for portable music before MP3 players took over. I myself used Minidisc from 96 till 2010 with serval portable players and a high end homedeck. I recently startet collecting portables which you easily can find cheap on ebay over here.
@DanafoxyVixen
@DanafoxyVixen 6 жыл бұрын
I live in New Zealand and Minidisk were not uncommon here ether. Ive owned 3 portable recorders myself back in the day. Even when MP3 players started coming onto the market Minidisk was still holding its own till the cost of 'large' capacity (>256Mb) memory cards came down, and that was after 2005 where I lived. Minidisk disks comparatively were cheap enough that running out of space wasn't a huge deal.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 6 жыл бұрын
yeah america really seems like the exception with minidisc, rather than japan being the exception. even if minidisc was a bit bigger in japan than in europe.
@geotechmore8855
@geotechmore8855 6 жыл бұрын
The quality of the sound is awesome! There is a resurgence of cassette relieses so hopefully you can find many more dcc cassettes to add to your collection 😁.
@stinkinfresh
@stinkinfresh 6 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Also, thanks for reminding me how old I am. Lol. The mini disc takes me back. Thanks and keep posting.
@traxonwax
@traxonwax 6 жыл бұрын
Always fascinating videos that you do. I’ve been watching your videos for nearly a decade. To this day, whenever I play that Stereo version of Jailhouse Rock, I am reminded of you. That version that you sent me the link to is the version that I play at weddings and parties. Anyway, you may be surprised to know that my son was just 2 years old when I started watching your videos. The other week I overheard him watching your content. He’s a big fan of yours and he’s just 10 years old.
@clydesight
@clydesight 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks, I enjoyed exploring this tech with you.
@hermanmunster3358
@hermanmunster3358 6 жыл бұрын
I was always intrigued by the various digital recording formats, DCC, DAT, Mini Disc. Personally, I opted for Mini Disc because I liked the idea of instant track access, and the compact size of the players and discs, and I still use them today, albeit more as a novelty. But I have a sizeable library of music on Mini Disc from CD's that were loaned to me from friends. And the discs still sound as good as the day they were recorded. The players became much more affordable over time. I live in the UK, and I managed to find a Sony Net MD Walkman which connects to your pc for quick track transfer and editing track titles erc for around £80 gbp. About $120 usd I think. Around the same time, I bought a Sharp MD Walkman for around £50 gbp as a standby player, and both machines have long play facility, digital optical outputs, and the Sony player takes 1 standard AA battery. And they are really efficient in terms of power consumption. And really much more convenient in use than any tape based system. I have always been tempted by digital tape formats though, but the prohibitive prices of machines is what killed it for me too. DCC was seen as a consumer format, whereas DAT was geared more towards professional use, and is still used by many artists and studios today. Mini Disc could have had a golden era, had it not been for those pesky mp3's. It was a far superior format to mp3, but convenience won, I guess.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 6 жыл бұрын
I think the other main reason for the lack of success is, it's still a cassette tape, and having to wind the tape through to your favourite track(s) was still slow compared to that of CD and latterly minidisc where track skipping was instant in comparison to analogue tape or DCC, and humanity's impatience picked the seemingly speedier optical media for convenience... :)
@sjogosPT
@sjogosPT 6 жыл бұрын
I think audio tape as a portable format was good enoght and simple to use. Easy to record, you can buy tapes anywere and everybody had already tapes everywere.
@andrekleyn727
@andrekleyn727 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people complains about FF or REW. It's like LP's. You simply sit back, relax and enjoy. No need to jump forward or backwards. Yes, in the beginning most tape decks were the piano key type which was horribly slow and not very reliable. Ever since full logic made its debut, ease of use and speedy transport mechanisms was the order of the day. Sometimes I wish this technically superior technology could make a comeback and since we know all the weak points, this time around it could be sorted from the word go.
@stevesstuff1450
@stevesstuff1450 5 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous little machine! Even playing a standard analogue cassette it sounds great, but the DCC tapes were just another league above! An amazing find, being mint condition.... thanks for sharing this unboxing and play-test with us :-)
@JunieVM
@JunieVM 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man that dynamics and soundstage, awesome.
@HammyTechnoid
@HammyTechnoid 6 жыл бұрын
I fell into the mini disc clan and bought a stereo deck model by Sony. Still have it and it works great.
@anmarsalih6038
@anmarsalih6038 6 жыл бұрын
On the box it says "only for USA" , on the catalog it says "only for Canada" !
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 жыл бұрын
So this means.... one side is lying. :O
@masterandservant8021
@masterandservant8021 6 жыл бұрын
I got a brand new blu-ray disc of "Neverending Story" movie, and it says "NOT FOR SALE OUT OF THE UNITED STATES", I live in México, and I bought it in a very common supermarket here in my country.
@petepictures
@petepictures 6 жыл бұрын
MD was quite popular in SA where I live and I had few of the Walkmans. I still play my latest Sony Hi MD time to time.
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 6 жыл бұрын
"Plays analog tapes, too! ....in analog format" haha..no kidding!
@harrystevens3885
@harrystevens3885 6 жыл бұрын
The state the headphones where in shows you where right to open it, I went the MD route myself and don't regret that decision.:)
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 6 жыл бұрын
That’d be a nice table top cassette player to have by a desk, the heads will probably make the old cassettes sound quite nice even if it’s only got Dolby B
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder... if the DCC would have survived a little longer there probably would have been even Video on DCC tapes, for video walkmen like devices or little consumer cameras. Like a cheaper DV alternative to miniDV. The bandwidth could have been enough but i doubt that there would have been a codec capable enough in the mid 90s that would have worked well for that. MPEG1 might have worked but would have looked horrible at even lower bitrates than for VideoCD. Capacity-wise the DCC would have been perfect for camcorders as well, before flash memory would have been available and affordable enough. Just fascinating thinking about that. DCCs with mixed content would have been interesting too. Music and Video on one tape. That would have given whole new possibilities for Mix Tapes :D
@Madness832
@Madness832 6 жыл бұрын
As I young man (around early '93), I came into some money. So I bought the Sony MZ-1, for some insane price! Years later, I still have it; sorta works, but I have to thump it to get it to eject.
@anthonyf3957
@anthonyf3957 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sony MZ-1 back in 1993 from a little side street electronics shop on my first ever visit to NYC for around $500 USD. I loved that thing, monstrous brick that it was. It was both a player and a recorder and could record from both digital and analog sources. I was a devoted MD fan for many years after and owned multiple portable units from Sony and Sanyo as well as a home deck before finally giving up on the format when I purchased an 80 Gb iPod in around 2006. I was extremely over Cassette tapes by the early 90s so the DCC did not tempt me even a little.
@AeroModule
@AeroModule 6 жыл бұрын
That GRP stuff is good -- lots of great 80s-early 90s smooth jazz.
@horuscurcino
@horuscurcino 6 жыл бұрын
The reason they choose GRP label and songs is certainly due to their famous in-studio digital recording process. GRP is one of few labels really concerned about sound engineering and playback quality. Even the GRP vinyl record has superior quality.
@carstuff4u942
@carstuff4u942 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that has amazing sound!!
@tolis287
@tolis287 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent sounding portable device!!!
@wgrantha4438
@wgrantha4438 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that righteous brothers album was released on DCC. That is very cool
@shawnaebbeson7882
@shawnaebbeson7882 4 жыл бұрын
I had an Optimus DCT-2000 and a Magnavix DCC Recorder/Player in my recording studio for years. Loved them and I used them about as much as I used my DAT recorder/player back in the day...
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 6 жыл бұрын
I got my first portable CD player in 95 as a gift from my grandmother who won a contest from a Christian magazine she was subscribed too, as she did not know what to do it with, and it was an RCA model that had 10 sec anti-skip protection, and I can remember seeing the same model the following year in the SEARS Christmas catalog for under $100, so with the quickly falling cost of CD players(home, car, & portable), and the fact a few years later I got a CD-R burner for my PC so I could burn my own mix CD's downloading tracks from Napster, and MP3.com, it's no wonder that DCC never took off in a big way, same can be summed up with the SONY Minidisc format at least in North America.
@RemiDupont
@RemiDupont 5 жыл бұрын
Well, that’s a great detailed review!
@reginaldlawrence412
@reginaldlawrence412 6 жыл бұрын
Wow can't believe that DCC never took off . They sound just as good as a CD.
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 6 жыл бұрын
reginald lawrence Thats why it never took off, basically a CD that wont last as long and has no direct access, something a record album has.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 6 жыл бұрын
But you could record onto it -- CD recorders didn't exist until years later -- and it could play your analog tapes, too.
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 6 жыл бұрын
Philips made CD recorders as early as 1992 or 1993 (CDD-521) but they were big, outrageously expensive, required as SCSI connection to a computer and were prone to failure ("buffer underrun"). The discs were also expensive ($20 each) and difficult to find in those days. One of the first CD recorders that fit in a standard CD-ROM bay was the Philips CDD-2000 (aka HP 4020i) in 1995. Philips pulled the plug on DCC in 1996, and that was probably no coincidence: they probably finally realized that discs were the future.
@rricci
@rricci 5 жыл бұрын
Watching you unwrap thatt demonstration cassette reminded me how difficult it wastaking off that plastic off of CDs. I remember I was at a music store and this girl was having a hard time opening it. I asked her if I could see it. I used my car key to open it for her. I could still see that smile. So if that girl is reading this, my phone # is 555-.....
@TerryMcKean
@TerryMcKean 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!.nice score .... it's definitely awesome to get ancient stuff new-in-the-sealed-box. :-)
@davidmothersill1318
@davidmothersill1318 Жыл бұрын
Hi just got myself a minidisc player and a dcc cassette deck both great formats
@kimchee94112
@kimchee94112 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about DCC. But I have three compact disc unites, one desktop and the other two portables. Nicely fit in the pocket, incredibly clean, no skipping like CDs and all could record. The portable compact disc takes one standard double A battery and last a long time. In fact when my flashlight goes dim, I take the battery out and put it in the compact disc and still runs for a few more hours. You could throw the compact disc (not the unit) against a wall and still play perfectly. The desktop unit was under $200 and the cheapest portable one was around $60, all new on sale.
@Livewire91
@Livewire91 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Westlife, i am collecting vinyl record's already as it is and now i want to buy a portable cassette player and buy cassettes thanks to you 😅
@Livewire91
@Livewire91 6 жыл бұрын
Well vwestlife you did it. Just ordered a Sony Walkman WM EX 194 and a bunch of rock and metal tapes 😅 thanks. Read that this walkman is good and not that old
@miked4377
@miked4377 5 жыл бұрын
thats nice!! i love new electronics!
@daverowley2013
@daverowley2013 6 жыл бұрын
Nice find and good video. In Australia this format flopped big time. Both of those DCC players were expensive here the Panasonic was A$1019 and the Philips was A$699. People weren’t prepared to pay for that.A now out of business music shop near us got burnt by ordering heaps of pre-recorded tapes but very very few sold. I’ve since found a few tapes for posterity, but I don’t have a player would reluctantly get one now due to absolutely no parts being available to repair them
@vadermasktruth
@vadermasktruth 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video!!
@andresannasanna
@andresannasanna 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I WANT IT!!!
@northhankspin
@northhankspin 6 жыл бұрын
Nice unit.
@roccox9510
@roccox9510 6 жыл бұрын
9:18 SO many 8bit guy vibes!
@allan.n.7227
@allan.n.7227 6 жыл бұрын
RoccoX95 Wow !
@maxpowers2168
@maxpowers2168 6 жыл бұрын
So, where I can DL them LOL
@talesfromthelotuspodcast
@talesfromthelotuspodcast 5 жыл бұрын
That song at the end i had to google that slapper its called early am attitude by Dave Grusin & Lee Ritenour
6 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see a comeback of this format with more modern codec support. Using AAC/Opus you could make multiple hour long mixtapes with great sound in a compact cassette format.
@gamingSlasher
@gamingSlasher 2 жыл бұрын
Although nowadays you can buy a tiny SD-card that fits 128 GB of data and have it really portable. And some people even make calls on the device that play the music :)
@wilkes85
@wilkes85 6 жыл бұрын
I think another reason why DCC failed is because by the '90s, a tape-based format felt old-fashioned, and CD felt more futuristic and it was skyrocketing in popularity, even if DCC sounded fantastic. Also, minidisc was so unpopular here that a lot of people didn't even know they existed. In the early '00s, my friend at school got a minidisc player because the store was selling them REALLY cheap, and everyone else was like, "What the hell is that thing?!" haha... he liked it though. During that time period when CD burners were still prohibitively expensive but cassettes were as good as dead, minidisc would have filled in the void very nicely.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah i knew someone back then who too had a portable MD walkman and it was super awesome. He could record everything he wanted and everything was instantly accessible. I remember somewhere in 2002 or 2003 when i visited my best buddy, this guy was hanging around as well and had his MD walkman hooked up via Line-in cable to my buddy's PC where he recorded the wholeGTA III radio station "Rise FM" to MiniDisc :D I think he even had a NetMD model which could fit even more music onto a regular Minidisc. Yeah by the early 2000s was a great time for Minidiscs.
@stinkinfresh
@stinkinfresh 6 жыл бұрын
By 2001 any rich nerd in my high school had an MP3 player. I am a poor nerd. Mini Disc was out way before the turn of the century and as all modern tech out of my price range. I guess thats where it ended up as a hand me down 21st century recording device and a great Retro KZfaq . As with all tech; looking back it would have been much better to spend $600 on Gold.
@JonnyInfinite
@JonnyInfinite 5 жыл бұрын
Instant track access was a big selling point at that time. Any tape mechanism would struggle
@42krikkit
@42krikkit Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right and that is the paradox of both DCC and MiniDisc - if they had arrived in the market say, 2-3 years earlier than they did they could have enjoyed a much higher level of success. In the late 80's people were still very much accustomed to the whole "recording your own portable media" thing and with the much increased convenience and sound quality of either format over analog cassettes they would probably have done much, much better. However, from a technical standpoint it would with 99.99% not have been possible to actually create these with late 80's technology and even if it had been possible it would have been prohibitively expensive, which would have negated the potential for success. So it had to happen the way it did. In fact, the current music streaming landscape is IMHO rooted in the creation of CD - once the consumers had access to music in digital, high quality format it was just a matter of time for things to happen the way they did.
@83Roboto
@83Roboto 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Philips model. They are nice units. One issue I have with some of the in-line remote controls for portable units is that some like this are hard wired to the headphones. So if the headphones go bad you lose the use of the in-line remote. It would have been better to put a headphone jack on the remote so you could use headphones other then the ones supplied.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 6 жыл бұрын
Panasonic did that in later years with some of their portable CD players. My Panasonic SL-CT800's remote control has a headphone socket on it.
@Fuzy2K
@Fuzy2K 6 жыл бұрын
14:13 -- I have that same receiver! Unfortunately, I don't have a MiniDisc player, but I *do* have a 200 CD changer from about the same time period.
@Jacksirrom
@Jacksirrom 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, what's that symphony playing in the background during the beginning of the video? My friend used to listen to that all the time, forgot what it was.
@freezetile8588
@freezetile8588 6 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of a portable CD player. :-)
@d44102
@d44102 6 жыл бұрын
I seen those portable & standard ones pop up in Radio shack back in the day & thought cool til I looked at the price same with the mini disc
@yurriaanvanduyn
@yurriaanvanduyn 3 жыл бұрын
'ey! I had one of those. Replaced the battery for a compatible NiMH one and enjoyed it a couple years more. But then MP3-players became all the rage, so yeah...
@pileggitech
@pileggitech 6 жыл бұрын
A VWestlife and a uxwbill video within minutes of each other? Cool!
@salventuri2050
@salventuri2050 6 жыл бұрын
The places where those fingers and hands must have been!
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 6 жыл бұрын
The Jeremy Heiden track sounds like Robbie Neville - Love is Only Love. :-)
@vinylcity1599
@vinylcity1599 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice digital format, better than CD! It's a shame it didn't take off!
@jdebultra
@jdebultra 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. I remember those. The price was pretty steep.
@petepictures
@petepictures 6 жыл бұрын
Mine looks exactly the same , without the transparent cover, and it's Philips Japan. Sadly it stopped working. completely dead. Any ideas of where the fuse might be ?
@raabsand
@raabsand 6 жыл бұрын
Weird the box says only for usa and the manual said only for canada
@blue387
@blue387 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried digital audio tape? I have a DAT and found a store in Chinatown in Manhattan that still sells DAT.
@JessHull
@JessHull 6 жыл бұрын
what a great find! SAMMYKERSHAW!
@miked4377
@miked4377 5 жыл бұрын
i like dcc...mini disc is nice too..
@kareno8634
@kareno8634 6 жыл бұрын
You can shop for me anytime! i'll just come Here to Check it Out. Really Nice, but Should Be. Always Good to know a Great Doc. (DR DCC) to Assist with a Cure. Thanks! and to you too DR DCC when ever the 'Oh No' arrives. Please get those Headphones Re-cushioned, i'd like to see what you did.
@alynicholls3230
@alynicholls3230 5 жыл бұрын
iv'e noticed that nicad batteries seem to fair better when left in box like this, the metal hydride batteries in a minidisc player i bought were doa despite being brand new and sealed in the box, luckily it had the single aa battery adapter and works fine on duracells however i bought a NCIB alinco djx3 hand held comms receiver that had a nicad batt pack and while totally flat fully charged and works fantastic despite being 12 years old, i also have loads of rechargeable batteries i use in scanners and metal detectors, and if you totally flatten them before recharging fully the nicads still work fine despite being twenty years old, but on then again i have some NMHD batteries that wont fully charge and have memory effect, i suspect that the need for higher power batteries fueled the changes in battery chemistry, not how effective they are since in lower powered devices nicads seem to be the best option, at least for me.
@bakonfreek
@bakonfreek 6 жыл бұрын
I was planning to do an unboxing of a Panasonic DSnap camera, but it all went wrong because it had been in its box for (at the time) 14 years and the iris got stuck. Totally relevant comment because it involves a Panasonic product XD Also, along with regular batteries not fitting the player, wouldn't there be a *slight* voltage discrepancy?
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 6 жыл бұрын
NiCads or NiMH would be OK as each cell is 1.2V. I'm surprised they went to the trouble of making special batteries. When I saw the battery pack I thought it would just be four AA Nicads in a fancy case.
@dennisthebrony2022
@dennisthebrony2022 3 жыл бұрын
Please review DAT next.
@dannyboy42223
@dannyboy42223 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, worse case the battery looks similar to rc car batteries which are just a pack of nicd cells. So if needed it could be rebuilt one would hope. Does it have track FF functionality to jump between songs?
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, on digital as well as analog tapes (provided you recorded a few seconds of silence between songs on analog tapes)
@alynicholls3230
@alynicholls3230 5 жыл бұрын
you can run them on AAA's, you could get a battery adapter that fits 4 aaa's inside then clips in like your battery pack, though finding one today may not be easy.
@presterjohn71
@presterjohn71 6 жыл бұрын
Minidisc was not a flop in the UK. Not a mega success either to be fair but they were reasonably popular for a good few years.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that was after Sony made a big second push for MiniDisc after DCC failed. While MiniDisc and DCC were competing with each other, neither was a success.
@urbanodagrippino8433
@urbanodagrippino8433 3 жыл бұрын
Big for a portable unit
@megabojan1993
@megabojan1993 6 жыл бұрын
This walkman would've be too big for me back in 1994 :) (P.S. I was born in 1987)
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it kinda has the size of the first MiniDisc Walkman (the MZ-1) which was quite big as well.
@Livewire91
@Livewire91 6 жыл бұрын
MegaBojan1993 Well it would have been ok in a backpack with a headphone hole in it. Had one of those backpacks that i used with my portable Philips cd player
@mercuryoak2
@mercuryoak2 6 жыл бұрын
You know I didnt know such cassette was made til techmoan and you vwestlife. Good thanks to you both . Granted I know thrre others that show it now but this is very cool. I think dcc would have been good to keep going vs cds.
@fixman88
@fixman88 6 жыл бұрын
Actually no, it had no real advantage vs. CDs. It cost a *LOT* more, the tapes and players were more complicated and heavier compared to contemporary CD and analog portables (I know; I owned both at the time), and I bet the reason you didn't see DCC recorders all that much is because the US recording industry would have had a fit like they did with MiniDisc; they fought *LIKE HELL* to keep them out of the US and *REFUSED* to release any pre-recorded music in the format.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 жыл бұрын
@ Matthew N: It was basically just MinIDisc on a tape. Like an MP3 cassette (without using MP3 thou. lol) because of the stationary head they could not achieve lossless audio like that. This was only possible with DAT and it worked like MiniDV tapes where the tape is pulled out of the cassette and wrapped around a super fast rotating head-drum that allows data-transfer rates high enough for that. On DCC it was only enough speed for low bandwidth data-transfer. So only lossy-compressed audio (plus track and artist informations) was possible. Never the less it still was a super fascinating format that deserves it's place in the audio world.
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 6 жыл бұрын
KRAFTWERK2K6 it’s encoding is actually mp1, the recording industry didn’t mind the DCC ‘playback’ machines, but they were just too inconvenient when compared to normal tape and CD players
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought they had the compatibility the wrong way round. By the 1990s most cars came with factory fitted analogue cassette players so you would still need analogue cassettes for those. A cassette that would play normally in a normal player and in better quality in a special one, in the same manner as HiFi VHS tapes, might have had more success.
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 6 жыл бұрын
MrDuncl probably the car manufacturers didn’t want to pay a premium to upgrade, Philips in the 90s were pretty hit and miss
@maxwelsh6121
@maxwelsh6121 5 жыл бұрын
Cdr , via mp3 and stuff like Napster , people rippin and burnin' - that's what won the war
@maxwelsh6121
@maxwelsh6121 5 жыл бұрын
MD was pretty big in the uk, though...
@TCGProductions03
@TCGProductions03 6 жыл бұрын
You should upload the entire demo tape.
@SFSVHS
@SFSVHS 3 жыл бұрын
Seconded, I would love to hear it all!
@sirmugman
@sirmugman 6 жыл бұрын
okay so unboxing a 25 year old thing, so far, everything is new and sealed!!! head phones are okay but the pads foam pads have gone oh dear, battery appers to be okay, no leaking/exploding and its not swollen up, but the biggie, is the battery able to take a change and keep and are the belts mush or still good? yest he belts are good and the battery is changing and still holds half its change even though its been sitting for 25 years, good work there but sadly can't keep its change bummer!
@ChrisCebelenski
@ChrisCebelenski 6 жыл бұрын
AMSR DCC tape unwrapping... LOL
@traxonwax
@traxonwax 6 жыл бұрын
I bet vwestlife would make awesome ASMR vids. All tech based.
@irtbmtind89
@irtbmtind89 6 жыл бұрын
I assume the data on a DCC tape is stored as an MPEG Program Stream? Is there any way to get a 1:1 copy off the tape?
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 6 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Compact_Cassette#Tape_specifications_and_PASC_audio_compression
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 6 жыл бұрын
What he said. PASC (the audio compression system of DCC) is basically MPEG-1 layer 1, encoded at 384kbps. It's not possible to get a copy of the MPEG stream in any easy way. DCC players with digital outputs provide the decompressed audio as PCM S/PDIF signal. If you can read the service manual, it's possible to tap into the PASC stream inside the recorder; in theory it's possible to connect that to a computer with an I2S interface (e.g. a Raspberry Pi 3) and process it e.g. write it to SD card. Then you might be able to play the file with an MPEG decoder but only if it understands the padding bit in the ISO-11172-3 data stream. As far as I know, most MPEG decoders still don't do that.
@withinjapan2024
@withinjapan2024 4 жыл бұрын
mini disk was very popular not just in Japan. It wasn't in America but globally it was very successful for decades so your wrong with saying only popular in Japan
@oliwier000b
@oliwier000b 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds better when playing analog tapes
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 6 жыл бұрын
It was the best but my Phillips DCC900 needs recapping,get the Vanessa Paradis album it's great.
@mattsmh3313
@mattsmh3313 5 жыл бұрын
Who is the music from the female analog cassette?
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 5 жыл бұрын
www.discogs.com/Silverimage-Troubled-Hearts/master/1217160
@isaacwright2247
@isaacwright2247 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this from?
@DONK8008
@DONK8008 6 жыл бұрын
A thrift store like Goodwill is my best guess (Not watched the video yet)
@raywt3237
@raywt3237 6 жыл бұрын
1:52 ebay
@CallanChristensen
@CallanChristensen 6 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/123013434619?_trksid=p2471758.m4704
@veedub95
@veedub95 6 жыл бұрын
GRP catalog at the time was mostly Jazz
@jari2018
@jari2018 6 жыл бұрын
Does it play home recorded mp1 files from a computer , I remember there was possiblity to make mp1 with was.. (dont remember) CD - ex - last version was for windows xp earlier for win98 Edit :Cd-ripper
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 6 жыл бұрын
That may be possible with the DCC175 portable recorder, with the DCC Studio software that allowed you to capture the digital audio from the tape directly into your computer, edit it, and then record it back to tape.
@DRDCC
@DRDCC 6 жыл бұрын
That is correct. The DCC175 also has a WAV-DCC converter, that way you can create a mixtape on the pc before sending it to the DCC175
@ingenfestbrems
@ingenfestbrems 3 жыл бұрын
Minidisc did great in Europe
@wildbilltexas
@wildbilltexas 6 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration. I think its funny someone at Mercury Records thought country music would sell on DCC. I would have loved to have had a MiniDisc in the 90's. But even discounted, they were just too expensive for a radio DJ working on minimum wage who could barely afford CD's and Cassettes.
@wildbilltexas
@wildbilltexas 6 жыл бұрын
I survived two decades in radio before big corporations and computer automation took over the business and ruined it. But I did alright. I copied a lot of the new CD's the station got in the mail to cassette back then.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 6 жыл бұрын
The price certainly would have contributed to the lack of success of DCC, but probably one of the bigger reasons why it didn't do well is because of the fact that you've got to wait for the tape to fast forward or rewind to the track you want to hear. Were there any portable DCC devices that could use regular primary batteries?
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 6 жыл бұрын
DCC was made as an alternative to analog cassettes. Compared to those, DCC was an improvement. Nowadays with hindsight we all say "what were they thinking, it takes forever to play only my favorite tracks" but that's really only because we're spoiled by CD, MD and MP3 players. It wasn't designed to compete against MD; Philips just saw that people had cassette players in their cars and in their pockets and wondered how they could improve on that. They also worked on CD-R (the first Philips CD recorder CDD-521 came out in 1992 if I'm not mistaken) but that format was still so outrageously expensive (and so were the discs) that it appeared that it wasn't going to be a consumer product. When that finally did happen in 1995-96, they saw the writing on the wall and pulled the plug on DCC.
@chrishalle1982
@chrishalle1982 6 жыл бұрын
Can you record digital on an analog cassette?
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, if it's a high quality chrome tape and you punch holes in the cassette shell to make the recorder think it's a DCC tape: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7hgrMt8ntmrfJs.html
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 6 жыл бұрын
You can but it doesn't work very well. Analog tape is not designed to store the 96kHz signals of a DCC, and digital cassettes have some mechanical improvements to help align the tape to the head. So yes, you can but your mileage will vary. Don't record anything important :-)
@chrishalle1982
@chrishalle1982 6 жыл бұрын
Jac Goudsmit analog is not limited.
@thundercy
@thundercy 4 жыл бұрын
They still produce blank minidiscs so i guess you can call that a victory over dcc.
@Veso266
@Veso266 6 жыл бұрын
what country music would you recomend?
@darkhelmet169
@darkhelmet169 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a sealed Walkman from 1998 that I should probably open and do something with, but I have better quality cassette players already so there's not much point. The headphone foam is rotted in the same way.
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